most of us are most of us are not a part of the, the top one percent. we all are being exploited by capitalism in this country. and i think that's something we need to be focusing on and not so much conservative versus democrat. i couldn't agree with the more david because you know, i'm a, i'm a conservative and i talk about class all the time and it gets my conservative friends, furious a kick, why are you talking like that? because that's what matters. ok. because that's the way people are controlled. ok, and they, they've about politicized the justice system to make sure a class isn't talked about. ok, they make you your dear slice and dice and every other way, but not by class. and that's by design, david. yeah, i mean, it's a, just a system really, you know, and that's why the things that you see, i believe it's crony capitalism or corporatism. that it's, this marriage between big government with its coercive power to initiate violence and force in its on, on its clients behalf. and that's the big business which is wedded to them together . and tha

the same that makes us different and i've always believed that i have many friends in the n.-g. o. community who are a left not just left of center but left's you know way left and we agree on almost nothing politically and very few things socially to sometimes but in our desire to do well for our children our desire to build a strong economy and our desire to live for. free in our desire to be americans and our desire to do any number of things that we don't even talk about because it's so common to all of our experience and i think if we spent more time focusing on that than on what divides us then we would be able to approach what divides us in an easier way she and i might my dear friend that i am t.d. the institute for multitrack the policy does that sound like it's left of center it certainly has kept us or she and i talked this weekend for almost 2 hours about the election and other things and it was not rancorous were dear friends i mean it was never a difficulty and she thinks that that i'm wrong i think that she's wrong but people can disagree without having to go t

and everyone wants to like us. okay. and it's all in tatters. it didn't work out the way we thought it would, which was any lucian in the 1st place. go ahead. yeah, i think the other kind of hits. that's why they collapsed yet again at this meeting . because this recent meeting between the chinese and united states, you have the same, the china and america lecturing china again. and also china outlining always complains because from the united states perspective, china not respected this unipolar world, where it's trying to remodel itself out to us. also position itself under the u. s . not challenging is leadership. and also trying to solve excepting the so called rules based international order, in which the us makes rules for chinese to do about adult life. so it's so this created, it will explain a lot of the empire from, from the us, china, china, on the other hand, it started to look towards us. well, in the way of a model s d, my point out as well. it's a political system can't really do much at the moment.

so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together. as a korea professional sport is much tougher on some than others. a u. l. a maya by everybody. so why would somebody believe me? i was just a little girl. the price of a to, to, to achieve really was, was trying to read the paper this morning, usa swimming coach, arrested leslie had sex with a 12 year old girl. this happens almost every way we get calls at the office. i get informed about one of my greatest fears is someone is gonna start linking all this together is going to be a 60 minute documentary about youth coaches in sports like gymnastics swimming, is that documentary? i see it on our tea. ah, welcome back to crosstalk. were all things considered on peter level? to remind you we're discussing crane? i can go back to jeremy in tulsa. i think we would all agree on this program is that there's a, there's a, a lack of information about what's actually going on in, in, in ukraine because there's something that all of us take for granted. but it's hardly ever mentioned that there

tell us what you think. go ahead. peter foreign policy in the united states has been frustrating, elite bipartisan for a long time, and bite and ran as the anti trump in terms of competence care as a compassion in terms of being a peacemaker rather than a war maker. but the reality has been very, very frustrating in many ways. what biden represents toward trump is what obama represented to our. busy bush, a more sophisticated approach that legitimized be confrontational policies of the previous administration. as so when ari fleischer said that, well, bomb is 2nd term is really george bush's 4th term. he was on to something there. and in many ways, biden is doubling down on trump's foreign policy, especially visa v china, but also visit the russia and, and iran as well. so what we've gotten out with we saw with the bush administration and they brought in all the people from the project for a new american century. and how they were the neocons and they were the hawks. and they brought us afghanistan that brought us ira

is simply to follow the us is always problematic us as a conductor our competitors are they also have this common interest they will remain competitors in many fields although they have the colonies becoming a some less and so you have this structural incentives for them to decouple a bit but of course also the popular sentiment used force united states and it is a paradox that the americans are most important security ally still every year they do polls to find out almost all america's allies see the u.s. as the greatest threat to international stability so these contradictions has to be addressed some points you know in general than if you know what you hear but i guess you know this new relationship needs the united states will continue this be no different from is going to decide and be like poland in hungary because of their experiments. as the americans will continue to meddle in your view. and politics but whoa there anyone that interferes in american politics like like a british citizen in 2016. yes no there is no question that that will be part of the american general take a

the us is taken off. it's purch asked a so super power or, or until it realizes it is no longer a sales superpower. we cannot have a functioning international law unfortunately when, when, when they have a countries, as far as the united states, which does not really like to be told what to do and, and what is right and what is not really in orlando, you're agreeing, go jump in yeah, i know, like the united states, i mean the international law doesn't apply to the united states. the united states constantly violates international law via sanctions. the cooing. i mean, the country under us is that through 12 years of struggle in attempting to, to get rid of a politician government. that's the us back in 2009 under secretary of state hillary clinton and the obama administration. the united states consistently is the reason why we have an immigration issue in europe because of the syrian refugees. it's more of a refugee issue that you have in europe, and that's because of the united states is a foreign polic

they use a british term. it's completely in your face and i don't know if it's meant to be, but i do see some backlash. and i noticed that hungary recently is looking into adopting some some laws more like russia when it comes to the promotion of homosexuality. we've run out of time gentlemen, it was a bit long winded there. i want to get my guests in lake jackson offload. and in moscow i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. you next time. remember ross stock bruise? ah me, i when i was wrong, why don't i just don't the room? yes, to shape out the thing because the after an engagement equal the trail, when so many find themselves? well, the parts we choose to look for common ground in always be polite, never engage with an aggravated or confrontational office. don't get into any conversation to start answering questions. just ask for an attorney. ah, to survive and interrogation, you've gotta be ready to stand your ground. definitely don't want to be going to throw in a jump. so one cups.

they use a british term. it's completely in your face and i don't know if it's meant to be, but i do see some backlash. and i noticed that hungary recently is looking into adopting some some laws more like russia when it comes to the promotion of homosexuality. and we've run out of time gentlemen, it was a bit long winded there. i want to get my guests in lake jackson offload. and in moscow, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here to see you next time. remember me? ah ah, is your media a reflection of reality? the in a world transformed what will make you feel safer? type relation, community you going the right way? where are you being somewhere? direct? what is true? what is in a world to corrupted. you need to this end ah, so join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. ah, in the global. busy geo political game, as it's called some time rest upon the foundation, us dollars primacy, us dollar a world reserve current. now you've got a major brush up to the outside of the dollar. that gives them

it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. hello in welcome to cross top where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle those of us who watched carefully the russia gate hoax always worried that it would eventually become the foundation for policy the biden ministration has done exactly this and what to do when trump supporters are american liberals embracing the soviet experience. to discuss these issues and more i am joined by my guest patrick headings an employment he's the editor and founder of the 21st century wire and here in moscow we're joined by dimitri bobbitt she is a political analyst and editor and you know internet media project telling process rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated when i was going to patrick in plymouth well a by did ministration is started its foreign policy approaches here and of course russia is as always close to the top for some reason and those of us didn't watch the russia gate hoax over these years we always lamented as i said in my intro

and of us a federation i say the vast majority of e.u. member states would not want a further deterioration. and there are some the both $68.00 and poland and those are merely conduit for western aggression against russia but essence to files and 14th western companies for example construction companies and agricultural companies have been severely could say what's in their ability to export to russia and they have suffered extensively as a result of that now if the european union does impose additional sanctions on russia then russia inevitably will take a very direct response who is going to suffer more its will be those companies within the european union for example agricultural companies in spain italy and greece who are no longer able to export. to russia so then we have to ask the question. who really benefits from it it's a further deterioration a further worsening of relations strained brussels and most very clearly not the european union with the exception of the o.t. states opponents are a subject pizza that it is america. who

to join us in the depths. or a maybe in the shallows. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered a bell to remind you we're discussing some real news. well there's going to be a me here in moscow. which gears here again and i made reference in the 1st part of the program to anthony lincoln's. made a message to the state department when he talked about democracy and hell that is going to be the very center of american foreign policy which only people inside the beltway believe that certainly people around the world don't believe it but well that they live with their illusions here but let's look at the record let's look at the record of support of democracy like in the pose a soviet space we could actually draw in venezuela if we want to so let's look at. georgia let's look at ukraine i'm looking at saakashvili poroshenko and as i said in the part when they started the program. the american backed president in ukraine . is shutting down independent media and the american state department is cheering that's democracy promot

but you know, the, the biggest problem, the us, as with china is that the us needs to get its own house in order. and there's no indication that's going to happen. as matter fact. everyone talks about succession cultural civil war. and i don't see that getting any better, and that is not a very good foundation to look at this new competition on the world stage. go ahead . absolutely right. empires rot from within. and there's many, many signs of that happening in the us. but the leadership has been able to fool people so far in the united states that they are the preeminent nation, that they are the exceptional nation that they're better than everybody else. and the public will not see that the defense spending off and spending has taken away the basic dignities that other people in western countries enjoy like a national health system, for example. instead, that money poured more and more in the military and it's destroying from within u. s. society. and i think it's up to the american people, if they ever can, to understand this and know that they've been lied to over and over and ove

spans feed our broadcast so we are using fox 7 now you see me as you are using c.-span st even our pinion rashomon never dang it wow look ok couple days later you come back we have to spend you for a week for broadcast but c.-span continues to broadcast with no problem just like you know. a couple years ago maybe you now have to go i can't tell my radio audience i was like. we are the only people that have been. taken down on you tube i've seen foodies taken down. not taken em but be monetized gram the monetized we'll i mean it's it's it's a it's a thing where you tubers like like i'm shit you're going to popular we're still in charge we conduct these things you complain all you want to end this matter fact means in your complaint were laughing at him when we're well we fallen out laughing because you're can. you still a good idea you know and it's like it leaves all of us are acting like you know we're on. a rope trying for wouldn't we what are we supposed to do. to cooper to speak on his platform when we aren't doing anything wrong or we're following your rules a

to join us in the depth. for a mate in the shallowness. the british and american governments have often been accused of destroying lives in their own interests while you see in this these techniques is the state devising methods to end to essentially destroy the personality of an individual. by scientific means this is how one doctor's theories were allegedly used in psychological warfare against prisoners deemed a danger to the state that was the foundation for the method of psychological interrogation psychological courtroom the cia disseminated from within the us intelligence community and worldwide among our allies for the next 30 years and how the victims say they still live with the consequences today. russia chooses the e.u. of meddling and it's a total of the block imposes sanctions over the trading of opposition forgot to say no follow me in time for awards. infiltrating russian language media leaked documents suggest the british government sought to boost negative coverage underneath could russia. what it means lead to prime mini

with us is not being manipulative. i mean you know i mean i suppose and donald's meant there was no malicious online. would he be welcomed on your lot or. and a member of the public or since it is our platform mayor is our platform and provided that they are not an act of lawbreaking they will not be moderates in our platform taylor is one of the things that really irritates me and you know i know the politics politics i know susie's politics they know my politics here but i bet you all of us together relatively easy to determine what should not be put on line i think that's common sense more or less dictates what that would be ok obviously child pornography not. inciting violence when there is a it's a real impending where who the it's possible. to simple things like that and i think we in the it is relatively straightforward and political speech well you know the political speech if you don't like it you should counter it with more political speech see what i don't like about these big forms is they a horrid debate t

dangerous term i think we have to use a lot of precision when using it because if you don't you minimize the the fascistic experience that was in the 20th century and what could possibly have happened in the future so i gave your reflection here i mean i'm sure you hear the same things i hear how do you feel when you hear he's a fascist she's a fascist go ahead. yeah i think you know that is a double edge sword it is even if dangerous and boys oh it's remember geishas 1st of all this thing has it to demand eyes your point of going to call them a freshness is not very good but by using it may be chipping in to term we actually ran the knees of me saying the freshness of a system fish is rich can it be you know meat there is you know there is a definite elements of cultural or legal mentality which eventually you know result in certain actions which can be called faces of the storm you know as you said have to be used very completely to be analyzed because you know i for example in the movement which were seen in the united states in the u.s. what they call themselves and define their face

i think this is all nonsense the forcing us to do this, but they're smart enough to make us do it in the right way. i feel last in relation till this are only considering themselves, but not people. that's not freedom. if people want to do this, for now, they should be allowed to not have it. i think having the health passed in place as good as it gives you reassurance when you go somewhere. very heated discussion on that right now on line r t dot com at least 3 months a year. it's protest all across from your news continues here in about half an hour . nice for joining me. the the the news. ah. hello and welcome to cross. we're all things considered, i'm about liberals today show their face. the mask is off and what do we see? the new mccarthyism. they are proud of their liberalism and tucker, carlson. and his journey in coverage of hungry on about the liberal establishment will probably never recover the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george m u l e. in budapest, he's a podcast, or at the gaggle which can be found on you too, and locals. and here in mosco

them to use them. if you get reached a guess at this point, that stepped american demographic bands that were just arguing what will happen when they, when they get 5000 goals. and one was, it was, it was not, you know, because you have maybe reached which do not accept american values. and you have made, just like to see, you know, and that spoke to the government. so basically, you know, the way i do apologize for that is blaming china. oh, ground good became so rich and how come you gently best a girl you're not supposed to do so you are supposed to last for us. so we have this, you know, kind of, you know, you could, you know, make noted your mistakes. if these are pretty bro, i told you, painted or are fancy. i only fancy china. it's all this. i go to school, it's all the house. you know, it's a government in china, it's the green, iraq, it's, you know, also the syria is there us, that's with an m and a no charge. i mean, when you're, if, if anyone uses a nikki haley is a rep for one of the lowest

when we watch movies about ai i think they typically make us worry about the wrong thing they make us worry about robots turning evil but the real threat of a vast artificial intelligence is not that it turns evil but just that it turns very competent but has goals that are not aligned with our goals. humanity has never seen such strange natural phenomena before giant cletus appearing in the young mt peninsula. one after another. one never doubted camp again you could use this to get to you but you know whom does love with those who were dead he would be at. this one appeared in 2020. how often and where will new crisis subpoena as i described how dangerous own they are human the slum only you is different than 12021 russian scientists came quite close to working out what's going on. they built a full scale 3 d. model of the black hole. welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter remind you we're discussing russia gate. ok let's go back to john in new york i said in the 1st part of the program that trump was a killer i meant of obviously that you know biden said th

use delaying idea you know and it's like it leaves all of us are acting like you know we're on. a rope trying from wouldn't we what are we supposed to do. to protest on his platform when we aren't doing anything wrong or we're following your rules and you're cutting us off well maybe but then again maybe what we need to genoa is like in the title of our art are our videos we should put in praise of nancy pelosi but that's not not ok so maybe i don't pick out the the algorithm or something like that ok she won't she already i have seen people do this on facebook is that they'll they'll they'll screw around with the spelling where you can easily identified it perfectly yeah yeah i mean this is what it's gotten down to you know you're out i mean maybe you should just have a channel say in praise of nancy pelosi and just put all the stuff you want anyway and everybody all know that's the right place to go because you know they're fake you got everybody graham let's get going this is serious stuff and i know it's very serious for you. it seems to me that their reaction to us is they'

the systems no longer serve us, they actually control us. is there a way out from this growing dystopian? the, the cross talking tech control, i'm joined by my guess, zach war. he's in san francisco, he's a google whistleblower, a tech entrepreneur and co author of the book. google leaks and whistleblowers expose a, a big tech censorship and in phoenix across to ryan hardwig. he is a free speech advocate, facebook whistleblower, and co author of the book behind the mask of facebook. current. gentlemen, cross talk rules and effects. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i appreciate your both whistleblowers from some of the most tyrannical organizations that have ever existed on this planet. i feel very strongly about that. so i can ryan, i'd like you to give us a thumbnail sketch of your whistleblower experience at these tech corporations you per sac in san francisco. well, google was a really great company all the way up until 2016 when donald trump, when the election. and then they decided that they were going to go to a hard autho

this, the game, you know, the model to be used elsewhere. you know, so somebody who meant to be like, really present the game as a democrat, and that sort of the gaining ukraine must also be on the national it crashes, the biologist, a present that as democrats, no less than probably later. so if you tell them, well this guy, you know, this is yara sh, you know, he's a sort of us of like big right? and that's, that's the west places. so, you know, they saw these nationalist classes, islamic in a number of gave them as useful goals for destroying yugoslavia and weakening, basically weakening russia and presented to them as liberals and democrats. really interesting to me and said, you know, again we have this kind of false choice or false binary is that if you want more reform and democracy must be pro western an anti russian. i mean, why can't you be pro reform and pro number the still be pro russia? of course i'm talking about beer roots. ok. they're creating these artificial divisions that are, are completely unnecessary and do not exist i

even, well, i'm sure you are going to use us. i'll be in conspiracy theories like how, how just say don't i the stage given fight ice. yes. well, i'm going to use here. all you the facts that kind of mentioned as facts by western progress. ok, out of 19 her wrist, who can eat the 911? a terrible, terrible respect she p and worse from saudi arabia. ok, one guy was from egypt to others from yemen and denisia. i miss they know that they've sold your radio. it is all that back to denise, you know that egypt ain't that. act, iraq. and again, you don't know these guys was from iraq against the over me leave you. so where is the logic here? and i understand why people are formed of conspiracy theories because the western divisional process, an aggressive country, is just bond a big while your brains conspiracy theory, right? so people have no trust visual information, and that's why sometimes they think of theories of their own. i'm going to stick to fact here. i think george is absolutely correct when he says that these was lot a war a

us government. the british government been the democratic party 1st and foremost, but also for corporate interest. well, whoever will pay them, and most journalists probably sincerely believe they're doing their job, but it didn't realize that they are be manipulated by their editors and, well, by those above that. and that's what's really sad because a lot of journals, sincerely thing, they're journalist, they're fighting for the truth. they're gonna, you know, they're going to serve the public, that that's what's really sad they need, they need to wake up. the journalist, the massive journals need to wake up, and they need to revolt against their superior well, you know, maybe they equate journalism with advocacy because they're, they're not the same thing as matter fact. they're when you call mingle them, it is very, very dangerous because it colors what you see and understand. so, i mean, i think they call themselves journalists, but they're really at advocates for an ideology here. you know, to

tense and this is allow you don't feel state that was a well we use our guys use tanks and. 2 planes, that's fine. so out of a small issue, they all grow a huge, huge problem and now the world may die. you know, in the back seat we have a real danger or you clear why? because you couldn't stand the fact that young boys asked them, asked them to wait for 6 months in 2013 same story where they can or should i, me. ology has no patience as we are here, and also to or who it, when it is interesting. is it years ago? you would have them say, well the jury is spoken. ok, good outcome, bad outcome, but they have spoken. but that's not the case anymore, because not only do many people condemn the verdict, they condemned the process in which the verdict was and decided if i'm sick that's, that's what, so that's what shifted here. and obviously, if you did, if you are for the verdict that, that tells the left the people in power, everything they need to need to know about you. you don't have a name, you don't have an age, you don't know and you don't have origin, you're a certain type of bad pe

that's where all of us are. and we've all these things and the people on the other side, hold on, hold on, hold on. you're already, you have a war point of view, you already have a lot of power. and now you want the last safeguards keeping you from overrunning. daniel, react to that because i think that's a good summation of how a lot of conservative feel. go right ahead. because they aren't safeguards, i mean that the funny thing is that the founders were great believers in the moderate center and but they created a system which is resulting and growing polarization. and so why is that? and the reason is, is that when you don't give any, don't allow democracy, society for force a part of the factional lies is that balkanized his head off in different direction because there's no real way of effectively resolving disputes. and yes, of course, you know, democratic argument can be ferocious. i mean, if 13 people want abortion and 12 don't want to butcher them. yeah, i think that those 12 people will be extremely u

again at the risk of a no no rush but us though up most of us it got ways to cool things in your bios at their church. back home but i can merican suffered from racism and a complete lack of prospects. is that lump us mud that he'll be a losing show won by elsa store on but by doing. so they decided to leave everything behind and start a new life in a country about which they knew almost nothing at all some of the. workers who read your new. found great secret. move a few you're going to go you. know almost a 100 years later the history is repeating itself my great grandfather george time went through russia. probable wars. to go anywhere why not me. when i come here. was a pandemic no certainly no borders i'm just blind to nationalities. but you. as americans we caught up with the we don't look like seen the whole world needs to be. judged. 2 commentary crisis what is interesting to modern times we can do better we should. everyone is contributing each or own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created with the response has been must so many go

on the us. the other half is the marginalized. so i think am, i think it's, we would need the reforms. but to have the reformers, we need to address the challenges which, which more, which were being discussed seriously 30 years ago today. and we use the center jargon and you know, democratic slogan airing. actually talking about the image and the claim. i mean, it, if you, if europe is, is being used as a hedge, a monic tool that i agree with that. but this in europe limited options, i mean, because of its dependency. i mean, again, you know, we have 30 years after the cold war of the u. s. is, is a dictating what europe security policy should be. certainly they're trying to do it with energy here. i can see how it makes europe stronger. more dependency makes it more irrelevant. can you address that real quick? yeah, no, i agree, but deals of the see that us change is june a bit like now that you're talking about strategic calling me away from us. it's talking about european sovereign, the, i d

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why don't, you know, will be us. there will be 3 be represented by intellectuals and then by some wall in the room that interest you step. if you get reach it, you get all that stuff. the american demographic that we're just arguing what they, when they get 5000 goals. and one was, it was, it was, you know, because you have maybe reached which to accept american values. and you have made just the way to see, you know, and that spoke to the government. so basically. busy you know, blame it is i do apologize for that is blaming china. oh, ground good became so rich. and how come you gently best a girl you're not supposed to do so you are supposed to last for us. so we have the, you know, kind of get, you know, of, you know, make noted your mistakes if this afternoon for your old, you are, are fancy yet elderly friends in china it's on this. i go to school is all the house is a government the china is green. iraq is, you know, also the syria is there us. that's what i am at a no charge. i mean, when you're, if, if anyon

we want that we don't like trump trump was very rude to us. great at us you know he's rude he's very rude you know you know he just was very dismissive and that wasn't the soothing flattering way that you get in these transatlantic conflict so when they get biden back and he said well i am america's back 6 but what isn't by offering your is it offering yet more of these interventionist wars and they look they look at what he's doing in the middle east in particular in syria where he is now these massively increased american military presence syria now he's building a 2nd base in syria now nato is increasing its presence in iraq so they what they europe is getting from america he's back in. as you know military escapades in the middle east which as we saw it back in the obama years has a blowback effect on europe through the massive migration flows but just going back to the interest of the national interest well what crumbly is did is he identified a specific american national interest which was to rebuild the american industrial economy i mea

that's been with us for a while. we have a president, the united states is constantly invoking, this is vito as bad as it was before the civil war. and you know, we had, it's almost like a battle him right now. i mean, it's this high per bully because when i hear it, it sets everybody off on all sides. go ahead, daniel. no, i don't think it's really high. per billy. i think it's really in certain ways. biden is quite accurate. what we saw in the years leading up to the civil war and 18. 61 was a very small minority of southern large scale southern slaveholders, really only a few 1000 people and all were able to use their constitutional advantages to leverage their power over the government. as a whole, and consequently what happened in $861.00 is that the northern masses rose up and revolt and essentially cast off this minority dictatorship. and what we're seeing now is something oddly similar, where the republicans are using their constitutional advantages to gain an edge on the what is clearly the democratic, both

it took us all right. just a few moments it's she slightly, as she said i welcome back to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing european security ah okay, let's go back to michael in washington. michael, i mean, we can go back decades in any time. there's a talk of a european army separate from nato. washington ends up throwing cold water on it and it disappears. okay, i mean, what was it a few years into 2007 that europe was talking about battle groups. that sounds quite threatening their battle groups, but nothing ever came of it. and it was a lot of pressure from, from washington to let it go here. what, what, what is different now? and as you've pointed out, i mean, if the nato countries don't want to pay their quote about fair share, why do they want to spend money on $5000.00 troops and nobody know who's going to be training them and who's going to be commanding them, go ahead michael, well, that's just the problem where we're the central command

force both in syria ukraine corpus says which is anything that's giving russia headaches is good for us and i think that's what is the driving there really care that much about syria ukraine but just to make life as difficult as possible for russia well if they might weigh in on that you know i mean obviously it means that these are. points of contention but what does the u.s. get out now other than just annoying russia and making sure that that violent relationship remains and happens i mean is that the ultimate objective and so in it seems to me that it's very heavy and it's quite all in it's not really or in policy going. well i was saved. i agree with that with that with jewish friends that and i did syrian or ukraine are mostly kasuri integrated due to answer your question i think it's important for the united states to. work this very dangerous precedent that many in the in the washington think that russia is trying to set by challenging us dominance on the international agenda and i think syria in ukraine have both been issues that made life so the obama administration a lot more

, they use the creek that not the section used very often. they mix 40 to some morals, like if you want to dig the sanctions off. beller, bella, russia, because that's basically bill, which is a translation that was wide russia into bill or language. so if you, if you say i'm against the sanctions imposed, you're in a moral person. you're not suggesting a political solution. you are a traitor. you are in cahoots with lucas angle. this is the same way, the not just if you oppose people's corpus or just major political statement, journal opposing, shoot, what you are you, laurel, you know, you don't the interesting thing is lisa, but when i look at them and bought them and they met and they were asking him, i'm dragging this tomorrow because they were asking me about their immigration policy. and he said, well, why don't you ask? it has nothing to do with rights. there was the webber, but in the, in the mainstream, it is somehow russians in cahoots with lucas shank to release immigrants into the european union. which, by the way, you know, colo

now it's being used against the west. i discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess marker, stop adopted in london, and he's a historian, analyst, and author of the new book arise, literacy and the return of russia to world politics. and in budapest we cross to george samuel when he is a podcast, or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube rumble and locals are gentlemen cross our rules and effects. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. or let's go to george 1st in budapest, georgia, and i've been watching very carefully, be the flipping of the narrative as we weren't here. where even a few weeks ago, even whispering online that there was a possible alternative explanation for the advent of the pandemic. you would have been just crazy, a conspiracy not case and to be avoided and to be shunned and probably band ok. now we see the narrative changing. now, no one on this program is going to make any definitive claims because we can't, we don't have the information, but there seems

we're being use just millions and make us less safe here at home and make the world i was safe place. you know, it's such an excellent point. i mean, everybody forgotten about afghanistan for 20 years until couple airport. ok, and that's the media's fault. go ahead, david, before we go to the break. absolutely. right, and you have also retired generals in the pay of weapons companies as the spokes people and the experts on the big corporate media outlets setting the agenda openly . and so we have this, you know, outrage that there were generals in backroom meetings resisting trumps ideas for that were for evacuating certain wars when he was president. but usually it's out in the open. usually it's the generals out in public telling president obama, how many more troops he has to send to afghanistan. and the media is dominated by both the military, the current military. okay. yeah, and that's all we got. she didn't have to go to hard break. and after about hard break, we'll continue our discussion on military accountability state with with other financial survival guys. i don't fight a

so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are together in doing the breathing technique and then take the pool in the hill and then no, no, everything goes out like judas bridge that need to reach the diamond fields rector mark d green. a vision, shoot me ah, welcome back to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i am peter labelle, to remind you we're discussing the media and january 6th. ah. okay, let's go back to dave in philadelphia. i really want to reiterate to my guess here, and our viewers here. i don't want to make any political bones about any of this until we found out, find out what actually happened. i want to find out 1st and then see who's, who's culpable, who benefited from it? and i want to do that. second, the media is doing it 1st. ok. they're trying to frame everything to make us think in a certain direction as they've been doing for years and years right now. so do something really simple, actually, babbitt, what happened to her? why is it so hard for the public t

one phone for who did he go to us? all the quote unquote, a young girl who will be on the roof for much. you got to be well, that's something that companies something you cut the cut over the whatever. the most likely that i'm on the 7th, not to get a quote to ship. very good. this was the right weapon against the rain. and nobody came from, but it was filled out through z o, o z the, the signing of the us to all about agreement. and i laid the groundwork for the road ahead toward a lasting peace in afghanistan. and i know we still need that mcdonald and those who driven by a dreamer shaped by those in me dares things we dare to ask me just but as i, when customers go by you reduce the price didn't help them well reduce the lower, the better cutting but what's good for food market is not good for the global economy. mm. the welcome. across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter a bell to remind you we're discussing the media and january 6th. ah, ah. okay, let's go back to dave in philadelphia. i really want to

i mean, it is always with us. i mean, with the us went through this, russia gate nonsense here, and it continues here. so, i mean, we could talk about, you know, how disturbing or dangerous it is, but it is ubiquitous. and i think that i find it very, very curious because, you know, it may go to la vladimir here in mosque. i mean it's like a one size fits all of your problems. are because of and then you point the finger . i agree peter. peter grits you. big, ubiquitous, of my argument is that many respects it's course superficial and how it lacks purchase at the societal as i to look at some point, i'm trying to make a gun to your question about yes. in relation to the western politics on that down, there are kind of, i guess it's a, i'm joe. i touched on russia. i stay aggressor and didn't to themselves on, on the defense, it will close as a classic example of that going on among the relation to that the migration cross. it's on, on polish, better by the rooster. a nice. so the west western politicians are point

and the longer they can keep us ignorant, keep us last, the more they can fill us, the sugar water and hamburger if they're trying to push down our throats. because that's what america medium american media is, has nothing to be true. a reality is about making money. ok, daniel, last minute before we go to the break go. well, interestingly enough, that segment you mentioned about woolsey on the lower income show. i remember that very well, because the last thing that was said is she asked woolsey. well, we don't interfere in elections overseas, we don't over term governments overseas, do we? and he laughed and smiled and said, only against the bad guys. that's right. effects. yes. so that was the admission that we do it. of course we do it, but by definition, any country, any election, we attack overseas. well, they had it come in there. the bad guys. well, yeah. again, it shows levered level of cowardice because anyone that knows anything about american foreign policy understands like, just the problem is, is that if we do it, it's okay for some reason. and that is the element of amer

used versioning. weapons in space program that he would use not ultimately to try to russia china i'm so glad you brought that up because that's an expert that you're a an expert in and i really appreciate it that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests in chicago about and in charlottesville and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at the see you next time and remember. when else seemed wrong. but all roads just don't call. me. yet to see how it does the attic. and in detroit equals the trail. when something find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. in the 1920 s. and thirty's several 100 african-americans moved to the city of union and many of their descendants still live in russia. looking at the post because you know no rush but i thought of stuff just to be wasted on things on your way. back home black american suffered from racism and a complete lack of prospects. is a columbus month real be a losing show one by elsa store or by doing. so they deci

to join us on the death. or a mate in the shallow. hello and welcome to cross top where all beings are considered i'm peter lavelle in his annual address to the nation russian president vladimir putin reminded his citizens and the world in fact russia has red lines when it comes to foreign policy interests and those red lines need to be taken seriously and there lays the problem the west refuses to acknowledge russia has its own national interests. cross talking russia's red lines i'm joined by my guess and washington he's an r.t. column this mean we have petro he is a visiting fellow at the institute band studies at the university of and here in moscow we crossed through. andrew career go he is a moscow based american political analyst all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate you let me go to you 1st here i'm sure you either read or watched putin's address yesterday to the nation and i was quite struck how he actually used the term red lines i think he really wa

and they're not, they don't have the downside, like the rest of us. ok, working people, they're the ones who get a sub for the most and they will be a backlash. we at least 3 of us here. remember the 19 seventy's and stagflation. go ahead, peter. well, of course it is political, i mean, the bided administration. every member of congress wants to give the voters something for nothing. right. the government wants to make sure that all the people who don't have jobs, many of them, of course, are just choosing not to have jobs. but the government wants to make sure that they have plenty of money to span, even though they didn't earn that money, even though they didn't help produce any goods or provide any services. the government wants to give the money to buy goods and services. well, where's the money coming from? they're not raising taxes, they're just spending money. and so the money is being created, it's being conjured into existence by the federal reserve, but that is inflation. you see every single dollar that the federal government spends, the am

and there is a huge one in front of us right now. and if you look at your history and i look at this, how neo liberalism, like to throw around charges of racism and all of these kinds of things. you know, they again, this export of values, their values that nobody else in the world is particularly interested in. but mean what is happening with the return of china is that for the 1st time in 500 years, the west is being challenged. and the west doesn't know how to deal with that because they think that god made them the way they are to lead humanity. well, it's not turning out that way. he doesn't work that way. and we already heard about american exceptionalism. these a leads don't understand the dynamics that they see in front of them, the rise of another great power. if you know your history going back to through cities, great, great powers. why and fall all the time. i don't know why would change this warning from 21st century. go ahead. bred. i think what's, what's also really disturbing about this idea of containing china's rise

so you cannot use the same mistakes for president buying that you would have used for our president trump. that being said, we have to figure out a way then we have lots of conversations. like you said, i was the only thank them crash. i am convinced that most of them are insane. but that's neither here nor bad because for them to say that i understand that president mine is dealing with a global pandemic. i think he's been a phenomenal job. we just on the democratic fact have to do much better with that messaging because i'm messaging at this and that the people are going to continue to be unhappy because they don't know the great things rather than by doing, especially things that are in the b better plane, ok, we're already, that's interesting. i mean, i've come across this argument before it's a messaging problem. you know, my rule of thumb is new when the sitting president is there, all the problems are, in this case, his problems. you can say it was because of this administration before, and now we're in the here and now you take responsibility for it here. but my question to you, r