nancy pelosi is very critical of newt gingrich area newt gingrich is very critical of nancy pelosi but i have to tell you when iinterviewed newt gingrich for the book , he was criticizing her on policy as a hard liberal but then he started to talk about how much respect he had for her as a politician, as someone who knew how to get and use power for the purposes she had. he said when he looked at nancy pelosi, he saw a fellow pirate and if you're newt gingrich i think the words fellow pirates are intended as high praise indeed. >> over the next several weeks and months congress is going to be dealing with an infrastructure bill with continued response to covid-19, with many significant challenges. if you want to understand how nancy pelosi developed a strategy hto impact and operationalize, you should read madamespeaker , nancy pelosi and the use of power and that will give you the best inside view of her very critical time. what a delight to have you. ladies and gentlemen, may 12 at seven, education and politics with congresswoman rosa delauro, chairman of the house appropriations com

you have to think long and hard who had as much influence as newt gingrich has had. he e-mails me, we e-mail back probably oncee every couple of weeks or whatever. he is wonderfully cooperative everything about his campaigns. how we canan do the contract with america. we talk about everything. we talk about reagan, we talk about klobuchar, we talk about clinton. what he thought of only talk about al gore. he would have to go back new speaker of the house in 1820s i believe 1830s. i'm a national political leader. as these two gentlemen. you see thenk republican party the conservative movement and the national movement his place in history is short. so when do think nancy pelosi has that same statuscy today? >> caller: as a woman, yes. she is not an idea factory the way gingrich is or was. she probably understands power better than he does. she has never been out to the speaker or run out as speaker or challenge as the speaker. it certainly is from ay political standpoint. an admirable woman and has done much with her tenure, or to tenures as speaker of the house. went

host: 2017 your book came out is newt gingrich a friend of yours? >> yes. i consider him a friend i don't know if he considers me. [laughter] but it's about his time and then to establish himself certainly one of the leading political figures in america today. you have to think long and hard to have as much influence as newt gingrich has had. and with that commentary and social media comments he e-mails me and we do it once every several weeks i did get unlimited access to him and his papers he was very cooperative for the book. and information from his campaigns and how we did the contract with america. he talked about everything. he talked about reagan and clinton and what he thought of gore.n and al you have to go back to who was speaker of the house in the 18 twenties to find a national political leader who had as much affect and not the president today as these two gentlemen and that includes newt gingrich. i think they do may history and the republican party and his place in history is assured. >> does nancy pelosi have the same status? >> as a woman,

and nancy pelosi is very grit cal of newt gingrich and newt gingrich was criticizing nancy pelosi. and when i interviewed him for the book he was criticizing as a hard liberal, but then talked about how much respect he had for her as a politician, as someone who knew how to get and use power for the purposes she has. and he said when he looked at nancy pelosi, he saw a fellow pirate and if you're newt gingrich i think the words fellow pirates are intended as high praise indeed. >> folks, over the next several weeks and months, congress is going to be dealing with an infrastructure bill with continued responses to covid, with campaign finance reform, with many significant challenges. if you want to understand how nancy pelosi develops strategy and tactics and operationally utilizes it, you should read nancy pelosi's. and it's congresswoman delauro, and then bill richardson how to navigate international hostage situations. google cornell institute, and follow the links to madam speaker, nancy pelosi and lessons of po power. ... >> at least six president recorded conversation while in

" came out, is newt gingrich a friend of yours? >> guest: i consider him a friend, i don't know if he considers me a friend. and authorized biography, took 3 or 4 years about his time, established himself, one of the leading political figures in america today, you have to think long and hard to come up with a political figure who has as much influence over the national political debate as newt gingrich. he still has regular commentaries, social media comments, fox news and his columns and things like that. he emails me and i email back and he was wonderfully cooperative in this book i got unlimited access to him and his papers and to talk to him about his campaigns and the house minority leader and the contracts with america, talking about everything. we talked about reagan and gorbachev and what he thought when we talk about al gore. you have to go back to probably henry clay, who was speaker of the house in 1820s were 30s to find a national political leader, not be president of the united states as these two gentlemen henry clay

is newt gingrich a friend of yours? >> it is an authorized biography. i took three or four years to finish it. certainly one of the leading political figures in america today you have to think long and hard about a president that has as much influence over the national political debate as newt gingrich has had and still has with the regular commentaries and social media contents on fox news columns. he was more cooperative in this book and to talk to him about everything in the campaigns basically we talked about everything. we talked about race and gorbachev and al gore. henry clay who is speaker of the house in the 1820s, 30s. i think his place in history in the party in the movement is assured. do you think nancy pelosi has that same status today? >> she's not an idea factory the way that gingrich is or was, but she probably understands power better. she's never been ousted as the speaker or challenged as speaker. her authority is supreme. certainly from a political standpoint and an admirable woman who has done much with her tenure as speaker of the

we are working on speaker newt gingrich and so most of the author events will be politics and history, current affairs and bestsellers infection and all the other categories that make a small independent bookstore work. >> you have to go back and talk about why you invited newt gingrich to do an offer event. >> we are a relentlessly bipartisan. we are in business to satisfy. to give perspective on the issues that interest them and have something in the store that will offend everybody so we had nelson a couple of days ago, just a prolific and wonderful author, and he's fairly conservative and while he was in the store, congressman shift was shopping because he had just done a bookstore and somebody said to me you've done a very good job of having books that will offend just about everybody. there's something i like about that. i am in business to satisfy people's curiosities so it's wing to be broad, deep and balanced. >> the global war on morris and the big government. >> you are talking about two books that i wrote. originally my intention was to sell those two books but the publish

nancy pelosi is very critical of newt gingrich and newt gingrich is critical of nancy pelosi. i have to tell you when i interviewednt newt gingrich for the book, he was criticizing her on policy but then he started to talk about how much respect he had for her as a politician and a somebody that knew how to get and use power for the purposes and said when he looked at nancy pelosi, he saw a fellow pirate and i think the words fellow pirate are intended as high praise indeed. >> for the next several weeks and months congress is dealing with an infrastructure bill with wresponses to covid and campaign-finance reform with many significant challenges. if you want to understand how nancy pelosi developed strategies and tactics and operationalizes it, you should read madame speaker. that will give you the best ginside of you during these critical times. it was a delight to have you. ladies and gentlemen, may 12 ati education and politics with congresswoman rosa delauro, the chairwoman of the appropriations committee and may 19th, governor bill richardson talking about how to navigat

newt gingrich is not to blame for that. he's a tough fighter, but he was a firefighter he went after corruption when he saw it and defended people who needed defending when he saw that also. his motives were always mostly if not all pure and i talked to many, many people who work for newt gingrich and i talked to him that knows him and i came to the conclusion, this is a good man and because he's been so successful that it invokes criticism and someone like mckay would be a critic because he's a liberal and because he is envious or thus oppose to newt gingrich's ideas and strategies and philosophies. host: patch in keyport, new jersey, please go ahead with your question or comment for author craig surely. caller: thank you. mr. shirley, it's customary for former presidents to give speeches, write memoirs. what do you look at now like 30 years after the fact about ronald reagan taking one or $2 million per couple of speeches in japan? was that nonpresidential, unseemly? guest: pat, do you think it was? caller: i really don't

. >> host: your book "citizen newt: the making of a reagan conservative" came out, is newt gingrich a friend of yours? >> yes i consider him a friend, i don't know if he considers me a friend. was an authorized biography, three four years to finish it. it is about his time, his childhood in 1994, established himself as one, certainly one of the leading political figures in america today. you have to think long and hard to come up with the someone who had as much influence over the national political debate is newt gingrich has had and still has today with regular commentaries and social media comments and fox news and his columns and speeches. he was cooperative in this book, i had a limited access to him and his papers, to talk to him about everything going on in his campaigns, as house minority leader, how he constructed the contract with america and basically we talk about everything. we talk about reagan, we talk about gorbachev, we talk about clinton, what he thought of clinton, how gore and so you have to go back to henry clay who was speaker of the house in 1820s or 30s to find

was the unifier of her own party. >> she definitely lives in a polarized world as also newt gingrich pretty and follow the strategies and more polarizing nancy pelosi is critical and new gingrich is also very critical of nancy pelosi and i did interview newt gingrich for the book and on policy as a hard liberal but then he said or he started talk about how much respect he had for her as a politician it and is someone who knew how to get and use power for the purposes she had and he said that when she entered he look at nancy pelosi, he saw a fellow pirate. and i think of your newt gingrich, and i think that phrase as fellow pirate. >> in a few months infrastructure bill with a continued response to covid-19 and with campaign finance reform and with really significant challenges and if you want to understand it, how nancy pelosi develops strategy and tactics and operationalizes it, we should read this book and it will give you the best insight of these very critical times and such a delight to have you susan and join us in education and politics with the congresswoman and chairwoman o

but didn't do the revolutionary things that newt gingrich did. and then to go after corruption left and right. much more so than anybody else did. they are similar and different. to understand power better and he understands ideology and movements. teeseventeen the atlantic wrote about this about newt gingrich. for a few figures have done more than gingrich to lay the groundwork for trumps rise during the two decades in congress he pioneered a style of combat replete with name-calling conspiracy theories and obstructionism that poisoned america's political culture and plunged washington into permanent dysfunction. >> i reject that. add animosity for eons. when they really literally went to war to each other 600,000 men died as a result so it had to come to that and newt gingrich is not to blame for that. he is a tough fighter but he was a firefighter. he knew corruption when he saw and defended people who needed defending his motives were mostly if not all. i talked to many people and i acknowledged him. and i came to the conclusion of a good man

by that 90s newt gingrich again they were more willing to do it. mainly it was about society. and just a sense it was a beginning of what we came to for russian with donald trump as they were picking on the grievances of the whites even more than it ever happened before of white working-class americans. in the tea party was an extension of that. they were rebelling against the fact the gingrich republic once they came to power that seemed to pragmatic. they had become the establishment. when you are in power as you know you have to raise the debt, you have to have the budget every year. there voters were so radicalized to demand a balanced budget, defund plant parenthood and defund all sorts of programs they could not understand why the republicans could not force this and that gave, trump came along and harness that. which is why you have a president against the republican stance very much seem to be of that. i was in washington, yes he wasn't conservative politics. did he ever go with evolution as well as he is making this journey, at some point as he shrugged off the establ

newt gingrich of course followed strategies. nancy pelosi is critical and newt gingrich is critical of nancy pelosi but i have to tell you when i interviewed newt gingrich for the book he was criticizing her on policy as a hard liberal but then he started to talk about how much respect he had for her as a politician as someone who knew how to get and use power for the purposes she had and he said when he looked at nancy pelosi he saw a fellow pirate and i think that that is intended as high praise indeed. >> over the next weeks and months congress is going to be dealing with an infrastructure bill with continued responses to covid and campaign-finance reform with many significant challenges. if you want to understand how nancy pelosi developed a strategy and tactics you should read madame speaker. it will give you the best inside of you. it was a delight to have you ladies and gentlemen may 12th with congresswoman rosa delauro the chair one of the committee and may 19th governor bill richardson talking about how to navigate inte

and i got bounced out of leadership because people thought i was too close to newt gingrich. but as chairman of the workforce committee one of the most compelling jobs, i was the chairman of the committee and we dealt with education policies, workforce policy and we came successful in working my democrat on a part in the senate, senator ted kennedy. the press used to call as the political book kids but when i came to no child left behind in the lot of other policy efforts, ted kennedy and i could work out almost anything. he was liberal and i was conservative but we both wanted to get things done on behalf of the country. in 2006 i became the majority leader, we lost the majority at the end of 2006 and i became the minority leader in 2007. i did that job up for four years, two of those years was george bush's president into with barack obama as president. in 2010 when republicans took back the majority i was elected speaker. the five years as speaker i have to tell you i had my failures. we had 245 - 250 republicans, 210 were good solid members to work with but on any given d

gingrich argues anti-american beliefs are gaining traction within the united states. his latest book is called "beyond biden." and in the broken constitution, harvard professor describes how abraham lincoln viewed the constitution and fox news brian kelly looks at the relationship between lincoln and frederick douglass and the president and the freedom fighter. those are some of the new books being published this week. you will see them on booktv. each week booktv produces a program called "after words." and on this week's episode of the author interview program, entrepreneur argues that corporate america is signing onto, quote, the culture only to increase profit. he discussed his book with harvard university economics professor and former george w. bush economics advisor greg. here is a little bit of that conversation. >> i think that there is something to be said for exploring the way in which may be it can stand on its own 2 feet. a big part of what i take aim at in the book isn't just the ideology in and of its own right but it's merged with capitalism which actu

that includes davidd limbaugh, newt gingrich, dennis prager, michelle malcolm, laura ingraham, margaret hemingway, david horwich, mark live-in, the list is long. and it was an amazing opportunity for some interesting provocative authors per. >> one of the authors publisher did not mention was donald trump. [laughter] >> we did publish donald trump. published a book on times to get tough which really set the stage for presidential run. we publish that back in 2011, i think, he kinda flirted with the idea of running and then decided not too. that was the beginning of him speaking out for national and international political issues. >> now margie ross in a previous conversation you and i had, you mentioned once he declared in 2016 that he was running for president you went back and read his old stuff and you saw no discrepancies. >> that is such an interestingt thing. the reason i went back, honestly, it read his old stuff and he declared he was going to rent we thought we publish this great book maybe we should publish the paperback edition that seems like a good marketing decision at thi

gingrich argues anti-american beliefs are gaining traction within the united states. his latest book is called "beyond biden." and in the broken constitution, harvard professor describes how abraham lincoln viewed the constitution and fox news brian kelly looks at the relationship between lincoln and frederick douglass and the president and the freedom fighter. those are some of the new books being published this week. you will see them on booktv. each week booktv produces a program called "after words." and on this week's episode of the author interview program, entrepreneur argues that corporate america is signing onto, quote, the culture only to increase profit. he discussed his book with harvard university economics professor and former george w. bush economics advisor greg. here is a little bit of that conversation. >> i think that there is something to be said for exploring the way in which may be it can stand on its own 2 feet. a big part of what i take aim at in the book isn't just the ideology in and of its own right but it's merged with capitalism which actu

his motives were mostly all peer andd i talk to many many people who worked for newt gingrich and i talked him ad nauseam. a good man [inaudible] he is liberal and is india's and us opposed to nate gingrich's ideas and stratagems. >> host: pavin keyport new jersey pleaseue go ahead with yr question or comment for author craig shirley. >> caller: thank you. mr. shirley is it customary for former presidents to give speeches? what do you look at now 30 years after-the-fact of ronald reagan taking one or $2 million per couple of speeches and japan? why said on presidential? >> host: pat do you think it was? >> caller: i don't have a stance on it. i know former presidents like the clintons have cashed in on the presidency but this was the first one i remembered in my lifetime.k >> guest: thank you, to good question. the japanese were willing to pay so why not? on the other hand it was a problem lead and momentary time in history for his legacy and not completely. he still regarded as one of oura greatest presidents and usually it's the iran-contra when people raise a question about reagan or hi

i get leonardo dicaprio more than newt gingrich as far as comparisons, but i think that newt did bring a certain vigor to the plate and effort to reform some of the practices that really lean into the pay for play developments of washington. you know, when you write a tell-all about congress, you're usually not sell in congress, that's what's different about my book. i'm still there and people are still my colleagues, but i think that to address the generational challenges, whether you're on the right or on the left. i do think that issues like immigration, how we deal with digital platforms, the environment and climate change, these are generational challenges and it will require a bit of a political realignment to solve them. >> i don't think that retreating to our corners, republican versus democrat, is is all that productive and why i write in the book about some of my friendships with people like alexandria ocasio-cortez and katie hill because i think at times you need to listen to one another and there may be many things you disagree on, but if there are some things you agree on

the one thing that allowed newt gingrich and the republicans to take back the house majority for the first time in four years was they overreached on guns. i think everyone will agree that was a major part of that. so actually it was a pretty good thing because it led to divided government, it led to a republican congress. i was never a big fan of bill clinton but compared to today he was a pretty reasonable moderate. but they passed some balanced budgets, they got some things done and clinton in new tour able to work together. they were able to get some things done. fast-forward to obama with obamacare. i can't remember what the total, i think it still holds the record for the amount of seats lost in the house at the midterms in 2010. we all remember. 53 seats i think the democrats coughed up when they're republicans took over the house. and here we go again. rinse and repeat. they will overreach on guns, they are overreaching on energy. the border is out of control already and we are already only six weeks into this presidency. i don't know whether it will lead to a compromise. i d

gingrich and mary ball washington the motherg of george washington. he's been our guest on "in depth" for the past two hours. thank you mr. shirley. >> guest: thank you very much peter. it's been a lot of fun. >> host: annette gordon-reed on the 245th anniversary of 1776. we often tell ourselves we are -- >> guest: we are certainly trying to be. >> host: in what way? >> guest: i think the number of people in society who are working towards the ideals of the declaration making it a reality the ideas about equality and happiness are they think we have that idea and trying to reach that potential. >> host: what the founders recognize who we are today? >> guest: no, of course not. some aspects of it they would did most of it women participating in politics blacks participating in politics would havehe been barred before in the power of united states. the time we are talking about 1776 this is in the middle of nowhere and they don't have the power to lead an empire and weeo have become an empire. >> host: or fester gordon-reed have you weighed in on the 17

gingrich and read. gingrich weapon rising rhetoric and read promoting religion because in the trump administration, you had all these people willing to spend trump's worst fantasies every into even worse on the ground and one reason i think that was popular is that it was all about appealing language like pro ice trickling down in all of these rhetorical phrases that don't reflect realities. not just practices, etc. mindset inviting a certain amount of irrationality so unmarred from the empirical evidence and we need to have this for government. >> okay. michael wolf. >> i don't disagree with the caller, i would however say donald trump presents a further separate problem from the problems one mighthe have with e republican party but the separate problem in my mind is h that he's crazy. somehow we managed to elect a president operates in an altogether separate reality not just from democrats but also republicans and i'm not sure we've right come to grips with the meaning of how a crazy man could become

back in the day. >> i like leonardo dicaprio more than newt gingrich is fars comparisons. i think that news did bring us to turn figure to the place, certain effort to reform. some of the practices that really lean into the pay to play for the rules in washington. when you write and tell all about congress, you're usually not still in congress that's what's a little different about my book is that i'm still there. and that these people are still my colleagues. but i think to address the generational challenges that we face. whether you're on the right or the left i do think that issues like immigration, how we deal with digital platforms, the environment, climate change, these are generational challenges that will require a bit of political realignment to solve them. i don't think that retreating to her quarters republicans versus democrats is all about productive and that's why writing the book about some of my friendships people like andrea cust as an others. i think it's time that you need to listen one another and acknowledge you can disagree many things but there's so

then went back to my early days with newt gingrich had me as the lead republican with john mccain to double the money for the n.i.h. we passed that bill. we passed the 21st century cures bill, 392-26. literally the last bill president obama signed into law. because we did that, we were able to see pfizer, moderna, j&j actually get their emergency use authorizations and production of the vaccine months early. maybe eight to 10 months earlier than it otherwise would have been. which as we know saved hundreds of thousands of americans. but we have to do a better education effort. i looked at my numbers again this morning for my counties back home. i think we have made two counties that are over 50% in terms of -- let alone where the booster is. when i talk to some of my hospital administrators earlier this week, it's like 90% of the folks in the hospital, almost 100% on ventilators weren't vaccinated. the evidence seems pretty apparent. we have to do a better job of educating folks to let people know what's happened. there was an early problem with the vaccine. and we corrected this. we

wired had newt gingrich on the cover. so obviously it is fair to say from your work and the passage that you do feel a connection with that legacy butis what do you think is active today? what should we harvestd from it and what do you think has aged less well? >> it's a great question. it's interesting because i'm from the us originally living in san francisco and then germany the past seven years now. a lot of german thinkers from that time have very similar perspectives from those in the less. of course there is more censorship here allowed impermissible given the history of the country but some have a similar bent with privacy and speech online. i do still hold a lot of the adls that to envision the right things and they foresaw including democracies back early on with more restrictive societies and before social media but with those threats that government posed but at theer same time on this is a pretty unique perspective i think they failed to see the roles that companies would say that then and now they still don'

gingrich being the leader we became the first republican majority in 40 years in theor u. congress and do so at that point i was the number four leader in the house and served there for four years from 1998. people thought i was too close to gingrich but as the chairmann of the workforce committee, a lot of the most compelling jobs i had were five years on the committee and we dealt with the education policy and workforce policy and became successful in the senate. senator ted kennedy. we both wanted to get things done on behalf of the country. i became the majority leader, we lost the majority again in 2006 and became the minority leader in 2007. two of those years was barack obama as president and 2010 what republicans took back i was elected speaker. for the five years i had my challenges. we had a 245, 250 republicans, 210 of them but on any given day there would be two or three dozen republican colleagues who wanted all or nothing. they wanted their way or nothing at all. or the fact a member of the united states senate wasn't a member of thehe republican house and be

newt gingrich says we don't need technical expertise. people can just get technical expertise in the market so we've made systematic decisions in the federal government to erode the expertise and knowledge and what that means is we put the politicians in a position of primarily receiving input and advice from those that are paid to represent the interest of companies so why go lots of us were focused on the issue of the privacy legislation or ai or upscaling in the future of work i don't want people to lose sight of the fundamental task of building a democratic system that is capable of governing technology before it governs us and that means thinking about the future of the federal civil servant and thinking about what expertise we recruit for. it means thinking about the creation and support that trepresent a public interest rather than a private or commercial interest and in our complex system, which we have said before is the best technology that we have come up with to deal peaceably in a way that it tries to forge a consensus or ag

newt gingrich said we don't need technical expertise in congress, people can get technical expertise in the market. so we have made a systematic tedivisions in the federal government over time to erode the technical expertise and knowledge. that means we put our politicians in the position of primarily receiving input and advice from those that are paid to represent the interest of company so while lots of us are focused on the issue of the privacy legislation or ai regulation or upscaling in the future of work, i don't want people to lose sight of the fundamental task that we have, which is building a democratic system that is capable of governing technology before it governs us and that means thinking about the future of the federal civil service. it means thinking about what expertise we recruit for and it means thinking about the creation and support of independent institutions that represent a public-interest and in our complex system which as we said before is the best technology that we have come up with to deal peaceably in a way that it tries to forge consensus or agreement

newt gingrich on china. i don't think war with china brings any benefits i can imagine. >> i agree with you on that. that could be less productive. if our viewers want information about the conference, where should they go, george? >> calls him .-dot technology. cause him .-dot technology. cause him cosm .-dot technology. cosm .-dot technology november 12. >> in the meanwhile you are releasing a brand-new book, i think the publication date is officially october 15 if i'm not mistaken, but the title-- is the cover of it. "gaming ai" very nice and compelling cover. i also noticed if you want to go to amazon you can order it already. they have some in stock, it seems like. >> it's been out for a while. >> that's why they have some in stock. let's talk about the book, i mean, i got a copy of it and i was utterly fascinated by the way you take up the standard challenge and kind of turn it in a direction that people don't expect them in the standard challenge, i mean, you mentioned in the book that some people thi

newt gingrich is on the cover. so i think it's fair to say from your work and from the passage that you read that you do feel a connection with that legacy but what do you think is still active today? what should we harvest and what has aged less well quick. >> that's a great question. it's interesting because i've been in germany the past seven years. there are a lot of german thinkers who have very similar perspective to the libertarian thinkers in the us. of course there is more censorship here that's allowed given the history of the country but nevertheless they have a very similar bent especially with privacy and speech online. i do still hold those ideals dear. the early thinkers envision the right thing and they foresaw what a lot of government, including democracy, early i studied more societies in the way they control the internet for social media. we foresaw a lot of the threat that government posed. but at the same time, i think they failed to see what companies would say. many of those thinkers then and

gingrich on its cover. so it's fair to say from your work in the passage that you read that you do feel connection with that legacy, but what do you think is still active today? what should we harvest from it and much as age less well? >> it's a great question. it is interesting. for me i've been into inferences go a few years in germany the past seven years and there are a lot of german thinkers who are very similar perspectives and libertarian thinkers in the us. of course there is more censorship here given the history of the country but nevertheless there is a very similar event with privacy and speech online. so i do still hold a lot of those ideals dear that the early thinkers envision the right things i think they first i would a lot of governments including democracy that i studied restrictive societies early on. so to first see the threats that government pose but at the same time with a unique perspective a failed to see the role that companies play a lot of them then and now still don't really se

milk clinton and the famous 1995 or 96 i think it was 95 newt gingrich congress and state of the union he famously said the arab big government is over. jimmy carter's and on this exact same thing in 1978. obama try to make a grand bargain on social security. it is not like republicans say oh, we won a convert and jimmy carter for they still despise jimmy carter as much as anyone. it is kind of bad policy and bad politics. >> that's a world again we are still living in. the democratic party succeeds the arguments of the right. thinking it will save them and stop the vicious attacks. >> joe biden it's having a democratic president is 80 years old humorous all the old stuff. he remember how well it works. and he's kind of going back to it because, i make kind of a snarky joke about the fact he's a catholic is about to meet his maker and he wants to get to the right place. he wants to spend $3.5 trillion on healthcare and free community college, right? i think the democratic party has at least somewhat, now or something in the situation were the outliers are crying into the wilderness and