over with hoover and dawn, coven, and johns hopkins. when we talk about cov, at johns hopkins name, also comes up because both are intertwined. julie thought a really good ref. and so sir, will white dates on the coven term, and that make eye infection rates mentality rates. the data collection began on google sheets and evolved into a global resource. the dashboard was fed 2 types of data authoritative, which was collected from national and international reporting. and from crowdsourcing essentially, from the people themselves who tested positive quickly, johns hopkins became synonymous with coven, 19 tracing, and innovation. helping people everywhere make sense of this once in a lifetime pandemic. and now, as the world moves into a new normal, a short distance from the nation's capital, researchers here are once again ahead of the curve. they are now working on a new way to combat the pandemic. long term. we meet with e schon and david of the team, developing a new cove at 19 testing sensor that combines the accuracy of a, b, c, r tes

same goes for johns hopkins goen they've got that incredibly highly ranked medical school, johns hopkins university hospital. also at the university of pennsylvania's hospital inso philadelphia. that's a common setup for big highly-ranked medical schools but that is not how it works for harvard. harvard is the top-ranked or one of the top-ranked schools in the united states year after year. but they don't have their own individual teaching hospital. instead, harvard medical school partners with a whole bunch of hospitals. they partner with more than a dozenre different hospitals and medical institutions in the boston area and they use all of them as their teaching hospitals and affiliates. it's part of the reason why we

amesh adalja is a senior physician at john hopkins -- johns hopkins. the mat we are looking at, the account from the new york times, their ongoing tracker of covid. at this stage in the virus, they say it continues to spread nationwide. daily reports of new cases increasing threefold since the start of april. what is your take on that? what is your reasoning for that happening? guest: they are socially interacting, many without masks. the virus is not gone. it is going to take that opportunity to spread when it has them. this ba.2, ba 2.1 is another example of omicron that is less forgiving. this is always going to be expected when you have a virus that cannot be eradicated. the key was never about -- we see those who are able to. host: are we there with hospitalizations? we are not seeing hospitalizations as we saw in previous waves? guest: definitely. at the leesburg hospital in pittsburgh, i am going there tonight. we are not in the same position we were december 20 13 one. many of these cases are mild enough they are not requiring hospitalization.

. >> is an emergency medicine physician he's a senior a scholr at the john hopkins good morning peg rex for having me good morning. >> the latest on the covered cases here in the united states is been tracked daily by number of organizations including john hopkins university the map we are looking at the account from the "new york times" or ongoing tracker of covid the state of the virus is a the virus continues to spread an alarming pace nationwide with daily reports of new cases increasing threefold since the start of april. our viewers can better see the uptick. what is your take on that? why is this happening? >> it's happening for a couple of reasons for number one we have people are back to the normal activities they are socially interacting. many without masks. we note the virus is not going is going to take this opportunity to spread what has them. now we have more contagious variance things like bhu, this would be a 2.1 is an offshoot of a micrometer less forgiving. meaning if you have interaction with someone infected you're going to get transmission parade this is always goin

joy to meet now is a johns hopkins school of medicine professor and fox news contributor, doctor marty makary. doctor carey it's great to see you thank you so much for being here. we have been talking about the positives of natural immunity now for a long time. at that administration, the cdc does not recognize it. tell us the story of natural immunity and why it is so important? >> well, about half of americans have a natural immunity. many of the unvaccinated habit. the construct of the vaccinated and unvaccinated is really a false lexicon. to be more medically precise we should be talk about the immune and not immune. those with a natural immunity actually have better protection against the virus but ironically when businesses fired and those with natural immunity for not being vaccinated they fired those least likely to spread in the workplace for our team thought this is a need, somebody needs to invite patients, people had affection in the past but no vaccination study natural immunity breaks we drew the blade on about 800 different volunteers and we found the immune protection w

it's it's to do something that we've just decided recently to do at johns hopkins to follow the lead of other institutions, which have now said and we have now said that students can't select their roommates. coming into first year that we're actually going to say this is a moment where we're very deliberately going to mix it all up that we're not going to let students replicate do the do the do the thing. that would be most logical for them most natural light of where they're coming from is to find someone who's just like me he will who will share this experience with me, but rather what we want to do is take this opportunity to be intentional about mixing it up. and so, you know with 70% of americans now graduating from high school and going on to some kind of post-secondary education if more more universities were more focused on this kind of bridging exercise of how you get these different. different students hailing from different backgrounds to interact with one and they're i feel quite hopeful that this could play an important role on getting us out of the morass that we're in

the cells were taken at johns hopkins university, which was segregated at the time, or as johns hopkins website, put one of the only few hospitals to treat african americans. it seems like johns hopkins university is trying to whitewash it's rate this past, but we'll get more into that later. henrietta lax has died from cervical cancer at age 31, and her family wasn't even notified when she died. in fact, they only learn about her miracle cells by accident 20 years later. now, i know what you're thinking, but how's thermo fisher doing? well, they've earned a billions of dollars in revenue, and they're giving back to the community by creating the just project. partnering with historically black colleges and universities to provide free cove at $900.00 testing and diversifying the thermo fisher work environment. how about you give back the billions of dollars that you made from exploiting black bodies also, johns hopkins school of medicine, named after the famous abolitionist. maybe you could provide reparations for the cells you stole, or at least reparations for the slaves. your aboliti

via zoom from john hopkins. lee gets to the heart of the question we have been talkinges about for the past 40 minutes. why w is the u.s. the level we e with this amount of gun violence. >> well, there is not one factor that explains that but clearly an important factor is that our laws arera different from our peers and other high income western democracy. the other nations have much more comprehensive regulations of firearms and i think, you know, there is some really interesting studies when you compare other forms of violence anything from schools to referees and aggravated assaults. the united states doesn't standout as an outlier at all. the only metrics that we are normal is lethal violence. our violence is far more lethal than otherth countries. this is principally because our violence is more likely to involve a firearm. i overheard art of the discussion with your previous gust that oh, you know, what is the difference if they didn't get you with a gun they will get you with a knife. it's far easier to

this is a direct quote from johns hopkins. at this meta-analysis that lockdowns had little to no public health effects. they imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. in consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument. sorry for the raised voice. rex people's lives, millions of people's lives, but tony fauci said they were absolutely necessary to save people, remember? >> the fact that we shut down when we did and the rest of the world did hasn't saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives. >> tucker: and he is still in charge. he should be in charge but he is not, head of public health for johns hopkins, doctor, thank you very much for coming on. it is so frustrating to read this, this topline analysis from this study, that i'm just going to stop talking and ask you what you make of it. >> it's interesting. there's really only been one narrative on this entire topic and it's probably one of the biggest interventions in the

one of the authors was related to johns hopkins. it is not peer-reviewed. the conclusion purported to be that lockdowns do not affect mortality much but to reach that conclusion, they greeted their own definition of lockdown, and they picked and choose to -- picked and chose which studies they will review. it does not present new data and it does not change any of the basics that we know, which is that the coronavirus is a respiratory virus that transmits between people. the more contact between people, the more transmission and the more hospitalizations and deaths. early in the pandemic, stay at home policies were necessary, to prevent the transmission of a serious virus that we didn't know a lot about. fortunately we have other tools now. those include vaccines, tests, masks. because of that, we don't have to resort to stay at home policies. jonathan: we appreciate your time, joshua sharfstein, vice dean of the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health. australia is opening up to double vaccinated tourists from february 21. tom: new zealand and aust

johns hopkins rate out a global pandemic exercise -- johns hopkins carried out a global pandemic exercise. 666 days later on may 11 -- on march 11, 2020, the actual pandemic was declared. why was it 666 days? i want people to be aware this is written in the bible. revelation chapter 18, verse 23, they deserved -- they deceived people through sorcery and black magic. these people are putting something in your body that makes you unredeemable. get blood washed, not brainwashed. host: dr., any comments on that? caller: i have not heard that before -- guest: i have not heard that before. the center for health security does different simulations of different kinds of pandemics with some frequency. the most frequent one was right before the pandemic started in the fall of 2019. they looked at the possibility of the coronavirus. the idea that a pandemic can happen has been known. people have been thinking about it. it is not as unpredictable what you need to have different kinds of for the just explanations for it. there is a clear scientific expedition for it. people who worry about it no on th

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with doctor amesh adalja from johns hopkins university school of public health. he is a senior fellow's scholar at the center for health security there 2027 -- is the line for those of you in the eastern and central time zones. and as to a 274 8001 for mountain in pacific. doctor adele jean i, want to play the comments the recent comments of dr. anthony fauci. when he was asked how he would know when the covid-19 pandemic was over. here is his reaction. doctor fauci, i want to ask your insights on when we will no longer call the current covid public health emergency a pandemic? are their criteria are there benchmarks? why the process will we go through to make that determination? >> there is really no firm widely acceptable definition. when one talks about pandemic, you talk about a highly transmissible infection that is essentially widely distributed throughout the globe. i've spoken about this recently. when you are in the acute foaming stage of the pandemic, the way we were in the united states, just a few months ago, you might remember we had 900,000 cases a

stuart: we had this report at johns hopkins. johns hopkins is saying all those lockdowns and closures did not affect the death rate from covid. this is wrong. bad public policy. are we beginning to see the end of these top-down mandates? >> i think so. we didn't know what we were doing going in. folks are now learning. to the degree we learn something works, think about doing it again if situation requires. if something doesn't work toss it out. that is the whole thing about the pandemic. we are learning on the fly. that's the new norm. stuart: public schools have failed during the pandemic. do you have a solution like school choice? >> absolutely. if a parent can't get their child educated in public school even though the teachers have been vaccinated and billions to protect everybody they should have the choice of the child going to another school which happens to be open. this should be market-driven. the student and parent of the student first not the vested interest that are pooling paychecks for never showing up. stuart: w

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the good news i observe in new york city, andrew pekosz joins us from john's hopkins bloomberg school health. yesterday in new york, it was just like the window, moment between delta and omicron. can you say all clear it for a normal society dr. pekosz: you need to look locally at what is happening. many of the states and cities that saw omicron enter at end of november are now seeing the end of that surge with numbers going down. so it does look like there is the light at the end of the tunnel coming up fast. tom: the washington post using john's hopkins data on the seven day moving average of deaths and i have been waiting for that to roll over and i now have two days of a negative first derivative on death that is wonderful news. can you say deaths are rolling over? dr. pekosz: yes. again, some differences in states but over all the death and severe disease are always lagging indicators of case numbers. those are starting to drop. look locally to make sure the trends are as far down as they should be, but everything is looking like the surge is ending and it is about seeing where w

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here to discuss my lectures disease specialist and senior scholar at johns hopkins university, doctor image dollars, welcome back. >> thanks for having me. kennedy: what's going on with your employer? sounds like a should be more forthcoming about this incredible piece of work. >> i don't have information what's going on internally with the way johns hopkins is promoting or not promoting that study, it's a different department as mine. i know i've done press and other individuals in my field has some other studies but at least i know not part about. kennedy: all right, what you think about it? >> it's not surprising. we know blanket tools like lockdowns were not necessarily went to happy impact people thought they what because many people started to shelter in place on their own before the lockdown orders were issued because they felt they needed to adjust her behavior. we know lockdowns sometimes drove behavior underground because people couldn't go to the park or dying outdoors or play basketball outside. they would go to each other's houses and/or settings, increase risk of transmi

. >> is an emergency medicine physician he's a senior a scholr at the john hopkins good morning peg rex for having me good morning. >> the latest on the covered cases here in the united states is been tracked daily by number of organizations including john hopkins university the map we are looking at the account from the "new york times" or ongoing tracker of covid the state of the virus is a the virus continues to spread an alarming pace nationwide with daily res

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hopkins, doctor joseph marine tweeted the latest example of what's going on at john hopkins, it is amazing more colleges working of the healthy students are virtually no risk triple the asked healthy 18-year-old have to wear n95 or double mask and test twice weekly no eating together or dining halls and police state. $75000 a year. your response to that? >> many universities and businesses are still chasing a covid 0 strategy they're trying to get to covid 0 and they're putting people in a bubble in the rooney lives. people don't die from covid they die from depression and poverty and mental illness and substance abuse that is many alisa don't understand ironically a lot of these institutions banner their commitment to social equity and racial equity then serving their community. yet they triple test and double test every week 2 - 3 test per week healthy students were triple the asked with no symptoms and their veteran communities like john hopkins were vulnerable local people cannot get tested when their second high risk. if you were an alien and landed on earth and saw a small group of y

brian: johns hopkins released a study telling us what we already knew. it be only decreased deaths by.2%. the media blacked out that study. they didn't have time to do it. some schools are not even dropping vaccine mandates. the cases and hospitalizations are dropping rapidly. look at the stats. we have to transition to living with the virus, not hiding from it. like sweden, denmark and the u.k. remember the convoy of ticked off truckers protesting in canada? their gofundme page that raised over $10 million because they are content promotes violence. the pandemic can't be eliminated but it's our decision to intelligently live with it. to the cross-hairs of conflict. the biden administration faces a dual threat. they killed an isis commander in syria. look at the compounds before the raid. then after the raid. how do we know that the head of isis was there? we have a presence there. we have troops. and where are the terrorists going? they are going to afghanistan where we have zero troops and we stranded our allies. you a krien. ukraine. russia moves spec

a comprehensive study published by john hopkins university, lockdowns and the earliest stages of the pandemic only reduced covid 19 deaths by that fraction of a percent. at the same time, we know those lockdowns were wreaking havoc on our economy, the education of our children, our mental health, and fueling political unrest. the studies found that. remember, the biden administration was convinced the best path forward was to shut everything down. >> president biden: what so many americans have lived under four months, it was intended to buy us time to get our act together. >> when you have an acute situation, the answer to that is to go back to our basic come out to shut down, flatten the curve. >> the fact that we shut down when we did has saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives. >> harris: democrats in the media have widely criticized people who even questioned the lockdown. now, those skeptics say they feel vindicated. >> of course it didn't work! americans saw it wasn't working. we saw the coronavirus spread dramatically, whether you did not or did have a

johns hopkins. how long will this continue do you think? 80 grants or your kids can go to johns hopkins to mark not for long. i you're looking at images that seem like there from some sort of form movie they're not there from kensington. one of our great cities that was shot in may of this year all in one day. it's for youtube channel. while philadelphia looks like this. as local news report in a recent showing at a gas station. >> 30-year-old brandon dixon now he was walking out of the gas station approaching a silver suv parked at that gas station actually standing at the pump they pulled to the gas station two men exit an open fire on him. try to run away from the shooters as you see in that video both of whom fully automatic weapons suffered gunshot wounds to both the head and according to police the video also shows the shooters firing on all their customers pumps before they ran back to the vehicles and drove away the grieving mother had a loss for words and simply angered over the devastating loss. >> i just recently moved back here

guest: i work at the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health. we were paying a lot of attention to any respiratory disease in the early part of 2020. a lot of what i was learning was in the halls of the school. not so much from all the reporting. people really did not know what was going on. we have experts in epidemiology and at a certain point i thought, and the dean thought these conversations at the school, we should broaden the audience. we started at the beginning of march of 2020 with the idea we do it for a couple of months. we interviewed people primarily at the school. 10 to 15 minute segments on different topics. our first few podcasts were about the basics. what the virus is, the coronavirus, what are we worried about, infectious disease modeling and with the virus could do, key policy questions. it just kept going. at one point we were doing two episodes a day. we kept going because so many people were listening. it has really turned into 7 million downloads. we have 300 episodes. it has been a really important product for the schoo

and after that johns hopkins analysis showed lockdowns, restrictions, school closures and more actually hurt americans, some are finally coming around but very late in the game. i'm harris faulkner. you are in "the faulkner focus". the white house is claiming president biden never wanted any of that. no lockdowns. >> the president has been clear we're not pushing lockdowns. we haven't been pro-lockdown. that isn't his agenda. most of the lockdowns happened under the previous president. >> harris: federal vaccine mandates and state and local mask mandates for school kids became the defact o*e law of the land. we need to realize how damaging shutting down our businesses and keeping us locked in our homes and covering our children's faces have been for all of us. >> ultimately there is economic and social costs to these lockdowns and yet there is little benefit. constitutional rights are most in jeopardy in times of crisis and we need to fight to preserve them. once you see the state of the federal government authority you won't get it back. america, we can't have these open and frank conv

kriti: she is a senior scholar at the john hopkins hospital. we'd look at the s&p 500, up 1.7%. the dollar continues to weaken, white -- down .6%. nasdaq does not stay into the close, we will see. i am kriti gupta. ♪ ♪♪ this... is the planning effect. this is how it feels to know you have a wealth plan that covers everything that's important to you. this is what it's like to have a dedicated fidelity advisor looking at your full financial picture. making sure you have the right balance of risk and reward. and helping you plan for future generations. this is "the planning effect" from fidelity. mark: keeping you up today with news from around the world, here's the first word. i'm mark crumpton. the international monetary chief does not anticipate a global recession, at the same time, she says the imf needs to come to the aid of developing countries. >> we are looking

what's interesting about some of t johns hopkins studies with ptsd is that with the psilocybin experience, an intensive one with therapy, with follow-up therapeutic consultations, many of these patients have resolved their ptsd trauma. and what's so interesting about it is re remembering the curative session with psilocybin appears to supplant the ptsd experience. and so the very active re remembering it has a therapeutic benefit. now, this is really interesting because it suggests that there are different chain of neurons, a neurological sequences that become then resonant. and this becomes a predominant reflection upon your life, you'll remember how wonderful it was to have that resolution of your trauma through a high dose guided psilocybin trip. now, this also brings into focus some other issues that i want to bring up is that are psilocybin mushroom less equal or more beneficl than psilocybin in pure form. there is a rush right now to commercialize psilocybin. at least 20 companies have been created for the commercialization of psilocybin into a pharmaceutical drug. and though i do a

if we were wrong, we need to know for the next pandemic. >> in the johns hopkins report, three leading economists analyzed data from 24 studies and determined travel bans and mandatory school and business closures early in the pandemic. reduced covid deaths by only 40.2%. >> i think it's important that we try and remove all the politics and really talk about what the data shows. what science shows and in support free people asking important questions about how to get pandemic policy correct. this isn't federal health bipartisan task force to investigate the pandemic's origins and the response of the trump and biden administrations. >> i think it's important to look at every aspect of this outbreak for lessons learned that ♪ only what the origin of the virus, the origin of the outbreak is but many other things that we could learn from in the future. so that we can prevent something like this happening or respond better if and when it does. >> and an fda advisory panel scheduled to meet february 15th to discuss pfizer's application to expand vaccine access to children under the age of

why are we doing it at johns hopkins. the nih has $42 billion. we've been asking the cdc for the last year to release their data on reinfection's. that would tell us a lot. they know all the positive tests in the country. they been matched. they can look at that data and give us strong information but they have not. last week they released data on new york and california, really driven by those states. what they found is that natural immunity was three times more protective against hospitalization. >> shannon: two quick things that i want to get to. ellie mayor garcetti saying he took pictures. he holds his breath when he takes his mask off. >> yeah. i think what you're seeing here is the reality of it smart people like this mayor are recognizing that we are not going to live with masks forever. we need to find a balance. they don't want to wear masks. the masks really are doing very little. they can feel good about their immune protection with vaccination. so i personally have observed that at doctor's conferences, doctors are not wearing the ma

the actual report suffers from —— is from john hopkins university _ suffers from —— is from john hopkins university. it's saying basically that the — university. it's saying basically that the town itself, and is not quite _ that the town itself, and is not quite clear what they mean by the full lockdown, but when we compare things— full lockdown, but when we compare things like _ full lockdown, but when we compare things like closing central shops, staying _ things like closing central shops, staying at— things like closing central shops, staying at home, closing schools, those _ staying at home, closing schools, those things have a bigger impact on death— those things have a bigger impact on death rates and reducing death rates than what's described as a lockdown. lots of— than what's described as a lockdown. lots of those elements were part of the lockdown anyway. and it also says the — the lockdown anyway. and it also says the social costs of lockdown were _ says the social costs of lockdown were greater than the costs... than the benefits — were greater than the costs.

this is johns hopkins. thankfully at the time we had a leader, president trump said i want to talk to dr. deborah katz who gave an alternative view about what this does to people's mental health. harris, just one last point. cancer diagnoses dropped by 80% among the lockdowns. mammograms dropped by 80%, colonoscopies at dropped by 90%, missed cancer diagnoses all because we had a drumbeat in the bureaucrats that said keep the country shut down. >> harris: if we have the biden administration pushing the lock down, let's take a peek and i'll come straight to you. >> president biden: statewide lockdowns, it's so under four months were intended to buy us time to get our act together. >> when you have an acute situation then an extraordinary number of cases, the answer to that is really closing down to go back to our basics, to shut things down in flatten the curve? >> the fact that we shut down only data and the rest of the world did has saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives. >> harris:

host: jennifer nuzzo from johns hopkins university. that was yesterday on this program. if you want to watch that in its entirety, you can do so at our website, c-span.org. back to your phone calls. vivian from pine bluff, arkansas, you are next. caller: good morning. i just wanted to make a couple of observations. i am in a state where we have, so far, identified almost 800,000 total cases with almost 1000 added just yesterday. we are just coming off of a second spike. people are still dying. we have had a total of almost 10,000 deaths in our state. people forget, when we shut down the schools, we did not know what the impact was on children in our state. thankfully, we have only had two pediatric -- recorded pediatric covert tests. -- covid tests. but we still do not have total vaccine protection for our children. i think we are still suffering from misinformation and fear and politicize -- politicization from the last administration. individuals making statements about how horrible -- harmful the mask mandate is. this little thing called science says masks do help pre