just for facilitating jeffrey epstein's misconduct?— for facilitating jeffrey epstein's misconduct? , ., misconduct? just returning to the issue of the _ misconduct? just returning to the issue of the guilty _ misconduct? just returning to the issue of the guilty verdict - misconduct? just returning to the issue of the guilty verdict where l issue of the guilty verdict where you expect the sentencing on the spectrum of prison terms that are available to the judge. t spectrum of prison terms that are available to the judge.— available to the 'udge. i think she will aet a available to the judge. i think she will get a substantial _ available to the judge. i think she will get a substantial prison i available to the judge. i think she will get a substantial prison term | will get a substantial prison term because she was convicted on five counts, and the guidelines provide a fairly high sentencing. so it will certainly be in the double figures. it wont be five or six years, most likely it will be in the teens. she will get credit, of course, for the time she has already served. i don

than jeffrey epstein. he came from nothing. he talked his way into position after position. >> what was understood about jeffrey at that time was that he was a former high school math teacher who had some sort of genius equation for solving the markets, and built himself up from, like, nowhere in brooklyn. >> epstein worked his way into a job on wall street at bear stearns, and then somehow he connects with leslie wexner. >> leslie wexner is a billionaire. he's the founder of the limited company. they own victoria's secret. >> he and wexner apparently hit it off, and epstein begins to tell people that he's a money manager for billionaires only. but at the time, the only publicly known client was leslie wexner. >> and what he does for that one client, i don't think anybody really totally knows yet, but he becomes this ultra-rich, mega-rich guy. >> ghislaine has been asked in depositions about how she met jeffrey epstein. >> when did you first meet jeffrey? >> some point in 1991. >> and did jeffrey know your

yes, while jeffrey epstein _ well? yes, while jeffrey epstein was _ well? yes, while jeffrey epstein was alive, - well? yes, while jeffrey epstein was alive, i - well? yes, while jeffrey epstein was alive, i was well? yes, while jeffrey - epstein was alive, i was the only person i knew that he was a monster other than obviously the dictums. in the social circle he travelled in, everyone thought he was brilliant and charming, and i say i had a terrible experience with him that, yes, i did wonder when the rest of the world was going to see him for who who really was. i was looking at the outset of this trial for a clearer explanation than the one we got as to why ghislaine maxwell was so completely enamoured of a man who didn't particularly treat her very well, why, after the sudden death and disgrace of robert maxwell, herfather, she immediately turned to jeffrey epstein. i was hoping that we would get some more clarity into that. we still don't really know. and we still don't really know. and we still don't really know. and we still don't really know howjef

the two of them, jeffrey epstein and ghislaine - jeffrey epstein and ghislaine maxwell, these were wealthy people, they moved in influential circles, they moved in influential circles, they were powerful. does this say that, in a matter how wealthy, no matter how well—connected you are, you cannot get away with this sort of thing? does this send a message to people who are survivors of abuse at the hands of people who they think will never be brought to justice, but actually ultimately justice, but actually ultimately justice can be done?— justice, but actually ultimately justice can be done? there is no auestion justice can be done? there is no question that. — justice can be done? there is no question that, in _ justice can be done? there is no question that, in our _ justice can be done? there is no question that, in our chris - —— from justice system, having money gives you power. i am not could be pollyanna ——iam —— i am not going to be pollyanna —ish. because ghislaine maxwell has walked free underserved 60 years —— on this she got six years of freedom, wherea

you have tracked maxwell and jeffrey epstein for years. you | and jeffrey epstein for years. you spoke to people who have given evidence, years ago. it is difficult to understand depravity like this, but from what you have looked at over the years, do you have any explanation as to why these two people behave the way they did? for two, i people behave the way they did? fr?" two, i have written about my dealings with him and how he threatened me when i was pregnant —— forjeffrey epstein. i got terrified forjeffrey epstein. i got terrified for my babies might agonise when they were born. so i have always considered him to be a terrible, terrible human being. and that was before i knew about all this depravity. as for ghislaine maxwell, i have posted today on my newsletter the full transcript of a conversation i had with her into thousand two about any farmer and her allegations. thousand two about any farmer and herallegations. i thousand two about any farmer and her allegations. i think it is very revealing —— about annie farmer. she denied giving annie farmer a massag

given how long the jury took to deliberate, understanding what it was like in jeffrey epstein�*s house, and he went to the staff, the pilot, the show for, they wanted to know what people could see and how they observed ghislaine maxwell living with jeffrey epstein and being so integral to the sex trafficking operation. this isjust in addition to the many, many stories we have heard from so many women, almost identical stories, about being recruited and groomed by ghislaine maxwell into jeffrey recruited and groomed by ghislaine maxwell intojeffrey epstein�*s web, but it was helpful for these women to have men on the stand, people who work for them, also testifying that the recollections matched the recollections of these young victims who were 14, 15 years old, and it is been 20 years for them and they made a have the strong as memory, so i think the case that the prosecution presented was strong. the amount of time the jury took to deliberate meant they were taken on the details very seriously, and i think ultimatelyjustice very seriously, and i think ultimately justice was served.

they tolthe jury out she instructed him to give the late jeffrey epstein massages the transsexual. all but one testified anonymously. jane said maxwell participated in her sexual encounters with epstein and was terrified and felt gross and ashamed. when you are 14 you have no idea what is going on. kate said after sexual contact with epstein he asked her if she had fun? carolyn said maxwell told her she had a great body for epstein. any farmer, the only -- annie farmer said maxwell gave her a massage and rubbeder breasts. they said the attack on the women's motives did not help overcome the evidenc >> she had the advantage of trying to explain the way this parade of girls coming in and out of the homeaily, and she claimed she knew none of that, that it never happened, and that is difficult for jurors to credit. they concluded that ghislaine maxwell was a liar, a predator. correspondent: please rates show -- police raids showed their lifestyle. the staggering wealth on display from opulent properties in florida, new york, new mexico, and even epstein's private island only highlighte

at the time, she was jeffrey epstein's girlfriend. epstein was there as well. he, too, was a guest of prince andrew. andrew spoke about his friendship with epstein and his girlfriend, ghislaine maxwell, in his newsnight interview. in 2000, epstein was a guest at windsor castle and at sandringham. he was brought right into the heart of the royal family at your invitation. but certainly at my invitation, not at the royal family's invitation. but remember that it was his girlfriend that was the key in this. he was the, as it were, plus—one to some extent, in that aspect. am i right in thinking you threw a birthday for epstein's girlfriend, ghislaine maxwell, at sandringham? no, it was a shooting weekend. a shooting weekend? just a straightforward shooting weekend. racing at ascot, shooting at sandringham and a trip to balmoral. this photograph, an exhibit at maxwell's trial in new york, shows epstein and maxwell relaxing at the queen's balmoral estate. they were there at andrew's invitation. andrew categorically denies knowing of any improper activities by epste

she is accused of having procured teenage girls to be abused by her former partner, jeffrey epstein. ms. maxwell has pleaded not guilty to the charges. the jury is expected to read up the jury in manhattan. we will keep across that as soon as we know what that verdict is. we will bring it to you live. let's return to the covid situation and speaking about the latest u.k. figures with professor anthony gordon a consultant in intensive care medicine in london. >> it is a huge number and i think it is worrying, seeing so many cases, even though it is a small percentage of those people will become seriously ill, that will be a large number that are going to be admitted to hospital. anchor: it was interesting hearing the prime minister speak about the trends in terms of who is being hospitalized, who is getting most ill, and it does seem to be that those who do not have the booster are most at risk. >> yes, undoubtedly, the vaccines work. they do prevent infection, they prevent serious illness. it is crucial that people get vaccinated. what we see in intensive care, there are a mix of tho

epstein, jeffrey epstein did not commit suicide. it became thismantra and i did look at this . people would always ask me when i was doing a lot of college talks at this time, journalism classes and people would ask me . i had to behonest . i really didn't think he was capable of committing suicide by himself. could he have, could it have been assisted suicide weston mark yes. i think if we want to think he wanted to end it, i think someone must have helped, i just don't think he was capable and i'm not the only one that thinks this. his lawyers think that, the forensic pathologist that was top doesn't believe he killed himself. there's just too many strange things that happened.he had three bones broken in his neck and doctor michael baden the forensic pathologist said he rarely in that kind of a hanging have threes bones broken in your neck. keep in mind the theory was that he did this with a bedsheet, cutting these up and that he kind of pulled himself against the book, he tied it to the top bunk and he would have had to pull him

we are learning more about the people jeffrey epstein targeted. lawyer brittany henderson is representing 67 ofg jeffrey epstein's alleged victims. she is the coauthor of "relentless pursuit: our battle with jeffrey epstein. we are happy to have her on. thank you for joining us so much. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: it is our pleasure. this is an interesting story and under covered, for whatever reason. let's start with the "vanity fair" piece. i know other knowledge other than the story, but it says that les wexner was essentially the guy who funded the wholele operation. do you think that is true? >> so this article, is what we like to see, there are three categories that we talk about the abuse and/or, the enablers and the friends of jeffrey epstein and a category where you had jeffrey as thed money manager in new york city and so many people on his side. these friends of jeffrey epstein are the people who are on his island, in his house at dinner. the same people having conversation with women they now know were sex trafficked and act

for many, many years. against jeffrey epstein for many, many years.- against jeffrey epstein for many, many years. there is also the fact that _ many, many years. there is also the fact that she _ many, many years. there is also the fact that she has _ many, many years. there is also the fact that she has a _ many, many years. there is also the fact that she has a second i the fact that she has a second trial coming up. she the fact that she has a second trial coming up.— the fact that she has a second trial coming up. she does, yes. rachel fiset _ trial coming up. she does, yes. rachel fiset in _ trial coming up. she does, yes. rachel fiset in los _ trial coming up. she does, yes. rachel fiset in los angeles. . rachel fiset in los angeles. thank you for bringing us up to date. you have been following the case closely. thank you for the case closely. thank you for the details on that.— the details on that. thank you so much for— the details on that. thank you so much for having _ the details on that. thank you so much for having me. - stay with us on bbc news, still to come: rec

between jeffrey epstein and his victims? ., ., ., , between jeffrey epstein and his victims? ., ., victims? no, not really, because so much of this— victims? no, not really, because so much of this had _ victims? no, not really, because so much of this had been _ victims? no, not really, because so much of this had been covered - much of this had been covered worldwide in the press already. i think we were all rather surprised at how few, that there were only four women brought by the prosecution in this case, when i think there were over 150 compensated by epstein�*s estate for similar matters, so that was rather surprising, and then the defence reallyjust surprising, and then the defence really just wasn't there. elizabeth loftus, a professor, a pioneer of this false memory syndrome, a thing not recognised by the american psychological association, has only ever appeared for the prosecution once in hundreds of cases, and surely if witnesses for the prosecution can have false memories, then witnesses for the defence can have false memories too. what then witnesses for th

now let me just say something right now, jeffrey epstein. can you type this was oh sorry, i apologize. no, sorry, go ahead. continuing tightness, i can type if you would like. no, it's okay. i apologize. keep going. john, i can type this. i can also do hands on this. i love live tv anyway. the thing that some of the thing that the most interesting about this is that jeffrey epstein was, is alleged by the federal government to have committed suicide. up there. there is no way under any stretch of the imagination that what happened was a suicide, but they insist upon it. they assist upon it, by the way, let me remind everybody that would jeffrey epstein, the most important person in this international co ball and conspiracy of trafficking. when he was in this cell, the only video cameras that, that, that monitored him happened to go out right at that time that he was dispatched. oh, now what do you think delane maxwell thinking? she's thinking a, my, okay, in this, oh, you'll be just fine. going, by the way, did you bring your food taste or wi

epstein and what they had subsequently said after jeffrey epstein's death. but in the end, that wasn't enough because what you had left is this gaping hole, this question mark, why did jeffrey epstein pay ghislaine maxwell an astonishing $30 million. >> there was no explanation for that. why did ghislaine maxwell stick with this man, who wasn't very nice to her, we heard during testimony, took her photograph down when he had other women to stay, had ore own assistants send other women flowers? i think jurors, you know, were told to use their common sense by prosecutor maureen comey about that money, about what the real narrative could possibly be, and that's what they did. you mentioned kindly my new project, vicky ward investigates." i did reproduce the entire transcript of the transcript i had with ghislaine maxwell in 20002 about annie farmer's allegations, because i think it reveals what wasn't revealed in the courtroom. it reveals a very entitled mentality. she asked why i would believe strangers over her. she told me that annie farmer and her sister ha

you would have to suspect beyond jeffrey epstein. the prosecution discouraged any names coming out in this trial, third parties. i have to wonder, with everything found in his apartment, cd's and binders will we get those names? will somebody ask? will we pursue the next step in justice? >> i believe with all of the heat on federal prosecutors right now they will go forward. they will explore the possibilities within those binders. it's hard to keep a secret like that. there were investigators and crime scene tapes. they saw all of that. i find it difficult to believe they would keep it all under their hat. that's not going to happen. if the evidence to which you are referring exists. >> will: what do you make of what was cataloged inside of jeffrey epstein's apartment? >> well, if it had anything to do with the victims, the 4 women that came forward, it would have been brought out at trial. if it had to do with other alleged victims, they have to be hunted down and coerced to testify, encouraged to move forward with a lot against th

attorney at the time, jeffrey burman, stood in front of jeffrey epstein's then mansion and declared that he wanted to talk to prince andrew and had reached out to the british government to try and make that happen. >> prince andrew has provided zero cooperation. >> reporter: prince andrew's lawyers, blackfords llp, denied this, issuing a statement in june 2020 saying the prince had offered his assistance as witness to the doj several times. today the head of london's metropolitan police was asked about the new lawsuit against prince andrew on lbc, a british radio station. >> is he above the law? >> no one is above the law. >> reporter: boies says he hopes at the very least the lawsuit leads to prince andrew finally answering questions under oath. >> she wants to set an example here. people, no matter how rich or powerful, no matter who their family is or what their connections are, can't avoid being called to account in a court of law for allegations of sexual abuse. >>> coming up, covid cravings. why the pandemic has people reaching for cannabis edibles. is struggling to manage your typ

on behalf of jeffrey epstein and sharing him with powerful friends. we also heard a lot from pilots, 2 at one time worked for jeffrey epstein. and we also got a glimpse during this trial of that. so called little black book, the little black book being that list of famous people, powerful people and influential people with whom jeffrey epstein had a relationship and had shared a lot of these young girls. now going back to was not completely done at this point . she's still facing by the way to charges of perjury. and there is another trial going forward or another case going forward that takes her out of this still surrounds jeffrey of seeing. and that's the case of prince andrew course. virginia go free. the woman who was accused prince andrew of having to abuse her, she says that he did when she was under age. and again, that was all tied back to jeffrey epstein and going maxwell. so again, at a later time, there will be a sentencing hearing. going, maxwell, by the way, did not respond in the court room, remain relatively stoic and walked out, shoul

that individual is jeffrey epstein, and he's deceased now. now, perhaps there were people who might have played a role in the conspiracy, but prosecutors don't have a huge incentive. i'm not sure what the utility would be in trying to get cooperation out of her. what will happen now? certainly she's going to appeal, and that is her right as a defendant. she can, but we know prosecutors will point out all the things that aggravate this, make this an incredibly serious crime. the vulnerability of the young victims will play into sentencing here. prosecutors will ask -- and moreover, she's going to be in prison this entire time. >> all right. thanks to all of you. we'll have more on this breaking story just ahead. >>> plus, in the meantime, covid confusion is growing as omicron cases keep spiking. stand by for a new forecast of the weeks ahead. ow! i'm ok! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ only in theaters december 17th. ready to turn your dreams into plans and your actions into achievements? explore over 75

epstein claiming that he had sexually assaulted her along with jeffrey epstein as well. there was an article that i read in the newspaper where they were sort of taking the mainstream media to test for not looking into this whole story about epstein and trump and this woman you know, i had already known about the case and i thought this does seem weird. maybe i should take a look. as i was picking away at the case, trump had elected in any nominated his labor secretary and i knew that he was a person that signed off on this sweetheart plea deal that epstein received. i thought at the time, i wonder what these victims who were young, you know, 13, 14 years old at the time, now they are in their late 20s, i wonder what they think about the fact that pretty much let their predator off the hook was now in charge of a large agency with oversight on human trafficking and child labor laws. my initial goal is just to try to see if the victims would finally come forward and talk to me. as i started digging more and more into the story, i found, you know, there was so much more to

he said he never saw any type of activity involving sex on the airplanes for jeffrey epstein. he said that he never saw any sex toys, never saw the young women on the plane being disrobed or anything like that, but he also said that the pilot door was closed a lot of the time. the cockpit door. so it is unclear what went on these airplanes, but obviously the passenger logs, anderson, are key to the investigation so they can try to figure out who was on these planes, who might have been a part of this sex trafficking ring that ghislaine maxwell was allegedly involved with jeffrey epstein. but i should also note, anderson, none of the high-profile passengers who we mentioned are alleged to have done anything wrong or have any involvement in this case, this ongoing trial right now, anderson. >> and was the pilot able to identify any of the alleged victims? >> it is interesting. he did say in court that he testified that he flew jeffrey epstein to this arts camp in michigan where epstein was apparently a benefactor. what is interesting is it is the same arts camp where this woman

maxwell was compartmentalized from jeffrey epstein's life. that's certainly what they said in their opening arguments. >> and let's play a clip from your special that gets into the dynamic between maxwell and epstein. >> sources who knew them during this time told me that he insisted she lose weight. and she did. that he could be incredibly abusive to her in public, and she put up with it in silence. >> is maxwell also a victim of epstein's abuse and manipulation, do you think? what do you make of that question, and do you expect the defense to play up that angle? >> so, it's complicated, jim. we did hear from from him on how all articles of clothing would be asked to be removed and how other women would come and stay. the defense suggested this was a secret between the house manager and epstein. so, clearly this was an attempt to show how manipulative epstein was and that maxwell was someone who was a victim, if you want to use that word, of those manipulations. having said all of that, so far i don't think you've seen the defense try necess

at the time, she was jeffrey epstein�*s girlfriend. epstein was there as well. he, too, was a guest of prince andrew. andrew spoke about his friendship with epstein and his girlfriend, ghislaine maxwell, in his newsnight interview. in 2000, epstein was a guest at windsor castle and at sandringham. he was brought right into the heart of the royal family at your invitation. but certainly at my invitation, not at the royal family's invitation. but remember that it was his girlfriend that was the key in this. he was the, as it were, plus—one to some extent, in that aspect. am i right in thinking you threw a birthday for epstein�*s girlfriend, ghislaine maxwell, at sandringham? no, it was a shooting weekend. a shooting weekend? just a straightforward shooting weekend. racing at ascot, shooting at sandringham and a trip to balmoral. this photograph, an exhibit at maxwell's trial in new york, shows epstein and maxwell relaxing at the queen's balmoral estate. they were there at andrew's invitation. andrew categorically denies knowing of any improper activities by ep

epstein claiming that he had sexually assaulted her along with jeffrey epstein as well. there was an article that i read in the newspaper where they were sort of taking the mainstream media to test for not looking into this whole story about epstein and trump and this woman you know, i had already known about the case and i thought this does seem weird. maybe i should take a look. as i was picking away at the case, trump had elected in any nominated his labor secretary and i knew that he was a person that signed off on this sweetheart plea deal that epstein received. i thought at the time, i wonder what these victims who were young, you know, 13, 14 years old at the time, now they are in their late 20s, i wonder what they think about the fact that pretty much let their predator off the hook was now in charge of a large agency with oversight on human trafficking and child labor laws. my initial goal is just to try to see if the victims would finally come forward and talk to me. as i started digging more and more into the story, i found, you know, there was so much more to

prosecutors dade she recruited underage girls to be abused by jeffrey epstein. her defense team is vowing to appeal her conviction. >> but this morning maxwell faces what amounts to the rest of her life in prison. this morning, prosecutors are calling it a, quote, great day for justice after a jury found ghislaine maxwell guilty on five of six federal charges including the sex trafficking of minors. the 60-year-old maxwell showed no reaction when the verdict was read before two u.s. marshals walked her out of the courtroom. she now faces up to 65 years behind bars. >> a unanimous jury has found ghislaine maxwell guilty of one of the worst crimes imaginable. facilitating and participating in the sexual abuse of children. crimes that she committed with her longtime partner and co-conspirator jeffrey epstein. >> reporter: it's a stunning fall from grace for the british socialite who once rubbed elbows with world leaders and royalty. the longtime companion of jeffrey epstein was described by prosecutors as his partner in crime. the government accusing her of being a

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their survivors say it's a step towards justice for the victims of jeffrey epstein. and the stories that moved us in 2021, the taliban takeover of afghanistan. how to trade in opium thrive while many things the threat of hunger and starvation? ah, i'm michael, look who, thanks for joining us. the world health organization is warning that the army kron and delta court corona virus variance could produce a sin nami of cuba. 19 cases that will put immense pressure on health care systems . in europe, france has posted a new record with authorities reporting more than 200000 infections in a single day. italy, ireland, and portugal have also all announced record numbers of new case. its officials say the sky rocketing infraction rates are being driven by the highly contagious amok. on variant a new national record for france here. every 2nd more than 2 people are testing positive for the corona virus. your police patrols have stepped up in response. there was a bars and restaurants checking people's vaccination passes and for the still unvaccinated french authorities have

and that she was used as a pawn by jeffrey epstein. now the jury will have to go through several major questions in the case. and one of the things that we're waiting to see if it's going to happen in it's trials. if maxwell herself will testify in her defense also will prosecutors pull evidence or uses evidence the quote unquote little black book that both. 5 deal and match well and jeffrey epstein had listing the names, the numbers, the contacts of jeffrey epstein and given maxwell, now the judge and the case. allison nathan is a very prominent. she's very well respected federal judge. she's overseen other high profile cases, and she was just actually nominated by president biden to serve on the 2nd court. second circuit court of appeals, which is essentially one step from the u. s. supreme court. she's already ruled against maxwell several times, and maxwell's pleased to be released on bail siding with prosecutors who contend that she is a possible flight risk. now the trial is expected to last at least 6 weeks, basically stretching

thejury by the late us financier jeffrey epstein. the jury found her guilty of five out of six charges. defence counsel says she is working on an appeal and was confident her client would be vindicated. that is just about it from us. you can reach me on twitter. thank you for watching. hello again. temperatures reached the 16 degrees mark in both london and in exeter through wednesday. and we've got more of the same to come for the next few days, really, as we keep these south—westerly winds flowing across the country, bringing pulses of exceptionally mild air northwards. now, temperatures probably reaching 16, possibly i7 celsius, and in contrast, the temperatures that we'd normally expect at this time of the year, around about 8 celsius. so it is pretty exceptional, not far away from the english temperature record, which is 17.7. as we head into thursday morning, we'll see outbreaks of rain turning heavier across western areas. a very, very mild start to the day with these temperatures. 14, even 15 celsius to start the day. the r

maxwell. >> thanks, jim. >> sure. >> jeffrey epstein is dead in his could spend the rest of her life in a prison cell, has justice been done or is this just the tip of the iceberg? let's get into it with tonight's panel, attorney republican strategist alexandra wilkes, former trump advisory board member, jason meister and foundation for economic education content manager and host of face with hannah cox, it is hannah cox. hannah, this hit us with a surprise, who were planning on coming to talk about this at the top but did this verdict surprise you? >> we got good news on the way and it didn't surprise me, i expected her to be found guilty, it's a good thing i think she should be held accountable for her actions and i know way think she is a scapegoat in place fourth jeffrey epstein. that being said, i don't think just bully has been served because there's a lot of men who've not been named or apprehended or prosecuted for guilty carrying out these crimes so i don't think we can the back and say justice done, kate shut. this is one step in justice but the victims have a lot more acco

and it wasn't just jeffrey epstein. there were a whole hoard of people that were taking advantage of these young women. those people need to be prosecuted. they should be shaking in their boots right now knowing that the federal government is going to come get them and prosecute them. if this is the end of the case, i think a lot of us will be very disappointed that they fell far short of those that should be prosecuted. >> back, joey, jason mentioned the timidity of prosecutors and i think that is part of the problem with the media, the eye of sauron the spotlights on certain issues that get button up and it's on to another issue that everyone is talking about. but it is really important for prosecutors and the doj, for legislators, to say committed and that things don't fall by the wayside, so that people who don't have voices are all of a sudden silence because the media has moved on. >> never goes away for the victims. never have gone away, didn't get shelved for 20 years and came back when the trial came. and they'

ah ah, this is a new line from berlin. justice at last were the victims of jeffrey epstein and new york jury fines. delane maxwell guilty of helping the late millionaire sexually abuse young girls for a decade, also coming up, record numbers of coven 19 cases around the globe. i'm a ron is quickly becoming the dominant, very involved delta. it's still hitting hard. the w h o urges wealthy nations to share more of their vaccines with the world with we're having some technical problem. ah, i'm the co finish. welcome to the show. a jury in the u. s. has found bread, so shall i. gillian maxwell, guilty of helping the late sex offender jeffrey epstein, abuse underage girls for years. after 5 days of deliberations, the new york jury found maxwell guilty on 5 of 6 counts, including recruiting and grooming epstein, teenage victims, and the most serious offense trafficking, a minor for sex. the verdict could see the 60 year old spend the rest of her life in prison. here's what the attorney's for both sides said after the verdict was announced. the road to justice has been far too long. but today

epstein and he had only -- jeffrey epstein was responsible for the abuse of these then girls, now women. i also think that as was alluded to, that going after these accusers is risky. and i think it backfired. i think questioning the memory and the motivation really hurt the defense and i am not sure that was such a good strategy. and then, lastly, and i am sure this was talked about, while maxwell certainly has a right -- constitutional right not to testify -- i think some of the jurors were probably wondering well if she is really innocent, why doesn't she get up and tell the world about it? >> yeah. all right. well, jennifer, alan, thanks so much for your time. appreciate those insights. fascinating case, we will see what happens next. thank so much for your time. >>> up next. why russia's vladimir putin asked for a phone call with president biden and whether they'll talk about the military buildup along the border with ukraine. i always dreamed of having kids of my own. ♪ ♪ now i'm ready for someone to call me mom. at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps

they obviously went after jeffrey epstein and ghislaine maxwell here. but, am i being too skeptical, too cynical, jennifer, about the willingness of prosecutors to go after powerful men who participated in these misdeeds? >> i think so, although i'll also say maybe i'm being too easy on prosecutors. i think that they go where the evidence leads. i don't think anyone in sdny or current doj is afraid of going after anyone in the world. so i think if the evidence leads there, they would go. there are just a lot of obstacles and no one who knows what happened talking at least as far as we know. and a lot of time has gone by so these possible state charges are likely gone because of statute of limitations issues. so i think there are a lot of obstacles. i don't think they're afraid to do it. if they can, they will but we'll see what happens. >> let's go back to sonia outside the courthouse for more about this breaking news this afternoon. ghislaine maxwell, former associate and partner of jeffrey epstein found guilty on five of six charges relating to her en

has found british social ib lane maxwell guilty of helping the late sex offender jeffrey epstein. abuse under age girls for years after 5 days of deliberations, the new york jury found maxwell guilty on 5 of 6 counts, including recruiting and grooming epstein, teenage victims, and the most serious offense trafficking, a minor for sex. the verdict could see the 60 year old spend the rest of her life in prison. well, here's what the attorneys for both sides said. after the verdict was announced. the road to justice has been far too long. but today, justice has been done. i want to commend the bravery of the girls now grown women who stepped out of the shadows into the courtroom, their courage and willingness to face their abuser, made today's result. and this case possible, we firmly believe and go to innocent. obviously we are very disappointed with the verdict. we have already started working on the appeal and we are confident that she will be vindicated. everyone be healthy, have a happy new year. a lot to on wrap. so let's bring in our washington correspondent stuff and simon's stepha

this was more than jeffrey epstein and ghislaine maxwell. now, in order to bring other people to justice, you would need a couple of things. first of all, a how that you could charge under. federal law in the united states generally doesn't cover simply sexual assault. you need some interstate transportation or interstate enticement aspect of it. that was present for maxwell, but not for men who had sex with underage women. you need to make sure the state laws that have not expired. we have statutes of limitations which say prosecutors only have a certain amount of time to try cases. and the third thing, and the most important thing you would need is prosecutors who are committed and willing to do this. you know, you would need a commitment from state prosecutors, federal prosecutors that we are going to go after these people and hold them accountable. could maxwell flip? maybe. she could try. it's hard now that she's been convicted. but i worked at the southern district of new york, but it has to go both ways. she has to come clean and the

and jeffrey epstein were practically joined at the maxwell and jeffrey epstein were practicallyjoined at the hip so it's very difficult to believe she did not know what was going on there. there are a good deal of technicalities involved in the specific charges brought in the case which is the reason the jury has taken so long to make the decision. next year, they have scheduled a perjury trial in this matter and of course, we will have the prince andrew hearing onjanuary course, we will have the prince andrew hearing on january the course, we will have the prince andrew hearing onjanuary the 4th, one of the reasons his lawyers are trying to get the case thrown out is that it trying to get the case thrown out is thatitis trying to get the case thrown out is that it is the jurisdiction of a manhattan court in this case, the complaint virginia giuffre said she was resident in colorado when the defence content she is actually living in australia. she had a very difficult upbringing, herfather, we all know, was a bit of a monster. when she was born, she was the youngest of the brood. her

a lot of people knew jeffrey epstein. bear stearns, ace greenberg brought him in, he was well-known on wall street, just because you know him, doesn't mean you engage with activities. liz: absolutely but when you know that i guy has plead guilty to child prostitution -- charlie: i agree but i talked to one person that knew him and said why were people still engaging? they believed it was a one off thing. liz: oh, please. charlie: i'm just telling you what they said at the time involving a 17-year-old and they thought that was, he made a mistake. i'm telling you what they told me. not saying i agree. liz: it's sticking to people years after he's dead charlie thank you very much we are coming right back don't go away. i promise - as an independent advisor - to put the financial well-being of you and your family first. i promise to serve, not sell. i promise our relationship will be one of partnership and trust. i am a fiduciary, not just some of the time, but all of the time. charles schwab is proud to support the independe