problems is more europe ok but a lot of people on the ground are saying enough europe how do you square the circle well you need leadership of course the anxiety tells you i go back to the place where i feel comfortable the comfort zone is the nation state so far of course you have to show that there is a solution with more europe and not even more trouble i strongly believe in an economic crisis if america lentil on the end. of the names of the leaders are say we need to more coordinate these things people would agree and you make policy by policy you see that north africa immigration is not an italian problem so you don't make it national competence but european you see that foreign policy cannot be national nationally let's say steer only but european wide and step by step people will understand that this solution is more europe ok let me tell you how do you explain people in spain for example when there's fifty percent unemployment for young people the you need more europe. well you know i think if the spanish people look at the successful nations of europe that's where they where t

from the more successful states of europe. you want to jump in on that and i can i ask all of you about how globalization has affected this here because everyone says bigger is better. we look at trading blocks and what not. you may where you may have many smaller is not all united by the better i mean smaller states like switzerland like. to monaco are extremely rich and prosperous i mean what they really think is that will lack of ferrous strong leadership that's had severe i've already been pointed out but second we need a project within we need to procure that may create an illusion that may create a perspective what to call for most of the people we need paying off a strong definition of entity and i think one of the problems of european entity is that this compose is made up of so very different things and very different elements and historical roots in chorus that it's very difficult to find a common other or even a common set of values and i think i mean it well it looks at the symbols that had been developed by the eu

is divided between all europe and new europe and when i write an article before $1017.00 addressing this issue it is trickles down to the baltic pipeline and the revenge and the revenge a sentiment in the eastern part of europe which was somehow colonized by the soviet union and as we can see german french and other western nations are reluctant to previous commentators rightly said to participate in that because they are realistically assessing the cost of this participation of oil and also the moral cost of participating in the iraq war but eastern european countries are driven by slightly different parameters and as i said when it comes to the whole stream too we can see that the american government of the american administration is heavily subsidizing the pop pipeline invented by the polish government and in 2017 we know that the 1st transit of ellen g. gas was delivered to show you know share in more than poland and board by the state owned oil and gas company called p n g n g so we know that trump displaying all of the hoax in the united states you know driving a wedge between

and europe is not islamic and have not been muslim country. they have been here i think i think you know i think he's actually right or wrong that you need to ask you right i'm sorry would respect have been part of the d.n.a. of europe for centuries and to suggest a solution is really just. twenty of centuries deeply quite patronize you know i think it's wrong i mean i get it demonstrates that you're a man of the far right the you're a man you're closely associated with the far right than a mainstream society muslims are being part of europe for generations i do suggest there's some ominous signs of telling me to essentially. with century muslims if they have been in my country there have been they have been studying the real base in the last thirty years so this is not in centuries a well have been muslims have been muslims that have been muslims in bosnia and that's all what we know about it and they were there because of there was many compiler wasn't i'm sorry but if they were if you all are this is the point peter that the friend from fro

if freedom of travel within europe could become a thing of the past. hello again to walk them through spots like the injury shell put on take i'm going to hold on today my guest is. the tour uprisings in the arab world led to bloody conflicts some of which are still going on the fourth humanitarian situation in the region forced thousands of people to flee their homes and sail overseas to the safe and happy new year of suck the old world was not a theft the problem has scared the europeans so much that some governments have restricted the border control end up thinking even suspending shan't get agreement basic for the e.u. are we witnessing the end of the united for europe and if not how is the old world going to respond to the challenge here is the same general of the council of europe probably out of the other. two months ago several european countries and the u.s. started bombing the gadhafi loyalists in libya today the old world is feeling the kid back from the operation as thousands of refugees are coming to the continent every day from libya and

not only in europe. the collapse of the soviet union was not anticipated it happened overnight many countries primarily those who were under soviet influence based in european countries and the countries that used to be part of the soviet union but are now independent states did not understand russia and were afraid of it as eastern european countries have become e.u. members they have showed their fares and passed them on to the e.u. saying that russia used to be an empire so why should it cease being an empire and can we trust it now that it's in peril past has been forgotten by now people have already understood that russia is pursuing its own path the time has shown that georgia for example fear that russia will dominate is again that's why it wanted to access nato i think that such fears originate from some kind of misunderstanding of the breakup of the soviet union because it was so certain no one could adjust themselves to it immediately all the european empires have collapsed but they have collap

this is the reason europe needs russia and i'm not sure if russia needs europe but europe at the moment needs for russia what i want better. or for in one of your interviews you spoke about the role of poland and said it could become a break. between europe and russia what kind of bridge and what are the current dynamics of russian polish relations machine door until very recently it seemed like a great idea but now represent between russia and poland has actually happened i think however that some politicians use smart politicians for solace even prime minister donald to disk he was bringing poland closer to russia before the plane crash followed has always been the final frontier of europe russia began after that front here is also in close contact with ukraine the question of ukraine is very delicate given the e.u. accession without exception russia would upset ration europe with poland is a bridge of sorts between russia and europe it's a bridge to russia because it is at the same time a slab it and a european country which could serve for bream's kind is closer russia and europe ho

growing i don't want to live in a europe of bureaucracy i want to live in a europe of democracy while said real quick before we go in may addressing european parliament you said you feared this project could cause the rise of national socialism in europe now after two rounds of greek elections we have. neo nazis in parliament how much worse do you fear this could get politically in terms of fracturing and the division into extreme politics. if you take away from people their right to determine their own future is to live under their own rules to take away from them that i should say. that you risk doing something that we stupidly did back in nineteen twenty with yugoslavia where we took diverse different balkan states we forced them together against their will under a new identity and you and i both know since ninety ninety the awful things that have happened as those countries afford to get back their independence so determination democracy and freedom we mustn't allow the european union to make those same mistakes. you heard of mr nigel farage later of u.k. independence party. let's

of europe for centuries and. twentieth century is deeply quite patronize you know i think it's wrong i mean i get it demonstrates that you're a man of the far right the you're a man and you're closely associated with the far right than a mainstream society muslims are being part of europe for generations i do suggest that some of the times you're telling me what you've essentially. with century muslims and they have been in my country there have been they have been studying the real code in base in the last thirty years so this is not in centuries a well have been lost limbs have been muslims have been muslims in bosnia and that's all what we know about it and they were there because of there was many compiler wasn't allowed and so many people have their way if you allow all i this is the point peter that the friend from from the from cooper nagin some somehow thinks that the bosnia war was caused by the bosnian muslims nope i don't know by disserves it demonstrates to you his agenda is about opposing islam oppos

or, you know, outside europe. then i think that we would be looking into a more and more successful global position of europe in the world. and you are right now we need to get the act together. somehow we need to understand what are the challenges that are coming up in the next decade and the next 20 years and 50 years down the road and be able to plan ahead. and of course, the idea is to do this in a kind of a multi lateral way. and in a way that preserves somehow peaceful cooperation between trading partners between associates in this case. okay. i mean, we're brought out of time. we've run out of time, i guess the major question is can europe survive the european union to be continue gentlemen? ok, many thanks them i guess in paris and in guilford. and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r t c. next time. remember, talk with with kaiser financial survival guide. when customers go buy, you reduce the price. now well, reduce a lower that standard cutting, but what's good for food market? it's not good

their say on european budgets democracy finally had its so what did this weekend's elections across europe mean for the one percent trickle down austerity agenda and the future of the global economy also as austerity gets the boot in europe republicans of the united states doubled down on their own version of soon republicans really trying to protect this time around as they shred the social safety net in america and later mitt romney caved into the religious far right in his party parting ways with his openly gay campaign spokesman and now that same religious far right is opening a new line of attack against romney talk about this new attack later that our political panel. needs you know this in votes across europe this weekend working people sent a very clear message to the technocrats and banks toure's choking them with trickle down austerity that message was no more in france socialist candidate francois hollande who campaigned against austerity defeated conservative president nicolas sarkozy in elections on sunday in his victory speech along told the french people that quote austerity

of that for gazprom and europe. regulator evolution is not the issue which germany and the rest of the e.u. nations need gas to sensibly reform their energy policy will russia on the other hand has to sell gas to keep its budget in order so there's a. co-dependency which is a good thing i would be happy to see european companies invest into russia and european markets open up to russian companies it's a good free market economy that isn't good for the marc rich what do you think of the recent raids on gazprom and its partners in europe if you think about the or p.r. guys i think europeans need gas field as has many uses with the political uncertainty in north africa it's good to have a stable partner that you can rely on and russia is what would be you know better than anyone else for instance the bit written recently switched from export to imperial europe needs a gas supply to maintain a stable mix of energy sources and it's climatic conditions require him to get it needs norway to go outside but also russia's gas

with this debt crisis mr sarkozy says no hero no europe surely europe will survive without the euro so on that. and a former english is a quote my successor in office like the works of course europe is going to have problems if the euro has problems but there's one thing you can be sure of at the end of the euro is going to survive as a common currency there even it theoretically things turn out differently which i find very important you think we will still have a united europe it is vital in all pugging you would chancellor when greece cooked its books to join the euro should you have stopped athens from joining the single currency. on those it towards your invalid i do not think that was our situation of the european commission its employees that had to conduct an inspections they had let us know that we could take the responsibility for greece's e.u. a session on ourselves and it was a purely preparatory mission conducted by the european commission and the national governments if we had made the decision to take greece in we could not claim without having the firm proof that the in

the, the older europe and new europe there be, you know, as rumsfeld said, but i mean, how can, what's going to be after the conflict the mean? is there still going to be internal contradictions in the european? i mean, how do they move forward here? when they're not even unified, now go ahead, keep going. exactly. i think division, division and more bricks it's, you know, i see there's a, there's a streets that there's really a line right on the middle of the, you countries, you're on the right. you've got a number eastern european countries to a much more crow atlanta to assist and more pragmatic above their role and, and a very wary about getting brussels more power, more federalist superpower. and so i think come, i think we can seek to vision more chaos. and how does that translate? that translates of the pose in 2024 to far more far right? m p 's getting seats, which in many ways you know, any you, a mandarin will tell you, is the beginning of the end for the european union. so i see on the doom and gloom for the european union. any jazz here, let me get in the loop before we go

two three or four europe's. strong states. in the. one hand middle states like france belgium and luxembourg on the other hand and then the so-called states but it's nationalism again and we'll have a conflict in europe and then there is a tertiary in my opinion that is the rate that give the people's right the most movements or strong and if they find political translation it's will be possible to go to. something like a socialist europe or a group of so you dirty of corporation or banking system it's public to our energy system you're probably right it is democracy and one of the countries of course at this crossroads having to make a choice is greece you talked in your book about a lot of the myths surrounding greece why do you think it's needed misrepresent that if you have to official figures everyone can live them up and everyone can see that. the. greek people are working. more than two thousand and one dollar a year and that is for example more than six six hundred i would say year more than that in germany more than five hund

that while russia has the alternative of shipping to asia europe has no such alternative and europe's geopolitical position will only improve if it manages to enter a tiny heartless ship with russia on and at the same time grant all u.s. session to turkey that would be a sound strategy aimed into the future the rest is yesterday's debate unless and is guess that if russia does decide to go east could that mean the gas shortfall for europe now does vitter sneak know that low not happen russia was an exceptionally reliable supplier during soviet times so no one has to worry about that junction i will say again that europe kamarck it is incredibly important for russia to keep it a budget balance among other things therefore we're not talking about dependency here but a codependency to get progress in shipping liquefied natural gas. makes europe less dependent on pipelines can that affect this project and. i don't think it would have a negative effect on the project as europe's liquefied gas market is quite limited to move there's nowhere to sell it in germany or poland has a developing m

peace allies in europe. when you serve the german chancellor there was no question of receiving financial aid from china or russia directly or indirectly through the i.m.f. do you regret that's happening potentially and what would be the implications because think it doesn't look good i do not think we should feel bad about other nations getting stronger be they russians chinese brazilians south africans or indians it should not concern us because these countries offer us more opportunity to export our products as they develop a vehicle. but that's only the case if we stay better and stay more innovative when we fulfill our agenda of twenty china and sort out our social policies and germany is the only country that understood to be back in two thousand and three that for an aging country to maintain prosperity as it must provide for change i think of our i wonder if the rest of the evening states and i understood this a decade later i will manage to take the action needed to maintain prosperity eyes on the o

heard concerns from europe from the european of dorothy's about the security of energy in europe and we have heard a comment from. european energy commissioner saying that this makes europe more reliant on russian gas and therefore this is jeopardizing energy security in europe on the other hand actually the fact that russia will be delivering gas starting from zero twenty fifteen directly to european consumers means that actually energy security will be notified as energy deliveries will be secured and russia won't have to deal with transit countries like ukraine which have created problems with deliveries to europe in the past also we have heard an offer of from kiev victory in the college the president has said suggested having the south stream go not underneath the black sea but through ukraine's territory making it cheap but gazprom has said there's no point in doing that because the whole goal of the pipeline is to bypass transit countries thanks very much for that update dimitri medvedev reporting from saatchi thank you. ok well for more perspective on the deal and what it cou

the, the older europe and new europe there, you know, as rumsfeld said, but i mean, how can, what's going to be after the conflict the mean? is there still going to be internal contradictions in the european? yeah, i mean, how do they move forward here when they're not even unified, now go ahead, keep going. exactly. i think division division and more bricks it's, you know, i see there's a, there's a streets that there's really a line right on the middle of the you countries, you're on the right. you got a number eastern european countries to a much more crow. i'd like to assist and more pragmatic above their role and, and a very wary about getting brussels more power, more federalist superpower. and so i think, come, i think we can see tuition and more chaos. and how does that translate? that translates of the polls in 2024 to far more far right. m p 's getting seats, which in many ways you know, any you, a mandarin will tell you, is the beginning of the end from the european union. so i see on the doom and gloom for the european union, let me, let me jump in here. let me get in the loop

both geographically and economic plan to some extent politically is europe is it clear to you at this point what stance europe is going to take in this whole controversy well i think i think it's pretty clear that europe has been united in its russian policy particularly since about two thousand and fourteen and that europe has been united particularly in response to this incident so i don't i don't suspect that we're going to see deep divisions emerging in europe either around this issue or or in russia policy more generally a lesser of a substantial material reason for that to happen now you said that europe is united and from what i know it's only about two thirds of the e.u. countries that actually showed solidarity with the u.k. which is not a small number by any means but at the end of the day expelling one two or even four diplomats like germany for example is more symbolic than practical. joe many after doing that actually approved both the construction and the alteration of the second and those same pipelines so i wonder you've there is perhaps a bit of a gap between what the

more optimistic on europe than most people are and the other is than the. number of countries emerging economies or approaching the middle income. trap as it's called and if we discuss russia concretely russia has had wonderful growth for seven percent a year. for ten years until two thousand and eight and then a much lower growth rates an r.v. expect asians are three to four percent that's a grove instead and the question is if russia and other countries that are reaching this meet the income level if they manage to reform further and reach a growth freight of five to six percent i should be possible here or if they will stay at a three to four percent growth rate you know i've talked to my. crystal a banker who just a couple weeks ago before the new year and she said that you'd rather. keep your money in euros rather than in the u.s. dollars that's why she said so look at all those troubles she said it's a good sign when europe was saying hey we're winning we're all together i knew you knew when we were really to be the united states well it was so so but

are the implications of that for gas problem and europe as. regulator repetition is not the issue. and the rest of the nations need gas to sensibly reform that and. russia on the other hand has to sell gas to keep its budget and so there's a. culture is a good thing for jay how to be happy to see european companies invest into russia and european markets open up there wasn't a company that it's a good free market economy does is good for the market truck what do you think of the recent you raids on gazprom and its partners in europe think about just the all appear gasp i think europeans need gas to feel as has many years is a dog with a political uncertainty in north africa also good to have a stable partner that you can rely on for a russia is what we did you know better than anyone else secret place that had written recently from export to your old partner how europe will need to gas supply to maintain a stable mix of energy sources and that it's climatic conditions for the northam and to get any norway's united size but also russia's bigges

i think it's a bluff it's a completely stupid i think we can we create europe without europe and it worked when we after the war we had reconciliation and peace with germany with italy there was no europe we have we had our own money own currency and it worked because when we had a problem we could develop it and germany revelle read its currency so now we cannot you. like in england like poland like sweden we cannot use a monitoring arm so it's a known problem and which is a means of recalibrates things so you understand that people in europe begins just to understand that you is not working you cannot have the same currency for countries who are completely different on the economic scale and i think that we are going to see you the explosion of the euro zone that all the governments try to impose rescission. for taxes. we will have a revolt revolution of the people thank you very much for your insight there nicolas duple and founder of. party thank you very much. now things are the little better across in spain which also faces protests after its parliament bowed to pressure and voted to

ok we'll talk about the democracy deficit in europe later keep going i mean the solution for europe is quick and throughout the course of action payne saw it with abandon finally from. virtual worlds of talks and negotiations and get back to reality. ok if i can go to you do you want this you believe is rushing the something like the euro we had a presidential candidate that said. russia should join the euro while i think that we have discussion in russia a bad thrash bands relationship with the european union and then i heard a loud crash joining going to go you know we can i don't think anybody wants to join me at all that you have no option like i don't examine let's clearly scrap and . you will get away and then there are several countries that actually are now still wanting to go on the euro one of them is poland and not today not today exactly so we need to fix the euro first but how do you fix it so i mean we've had i think we've had about this topic how do you fix it jacob has the idea but i don't know if it's politically feasible so i think we will start from another place i t

for europe. ah, cross ok in europe's fate. i'm joined by my guess. i'd real concern to in london. he is founder of a consulting and a foreign affairs analyst in paris. we have rachel mars than she is a political columnist and coast of unpredicted with rachel marston. and in prague we crossed to brad blankenship. he is calmness at sea g t. n. a freelance reporter friction, why, as well as an rti contributor or a cross accruals and effect, that means you can jump in any time you want. and i will appreciate rachel, let me go to you 1st and paris. one of my favorite phrases over the years has been the law of unintended consequences. now, with the fervor of almost like a crusade or europe's intend to punish russia for its operations in ukraine are beginning to serve counterproductive. ends here. i mean, particularly in the area of energy and as much as nato and the u. e. you want to talk about unity. the more they talk about sanctions, the less unity there is. go ahead. rachel? yeah, what's interesting is french president, a mentor in like home faces written in the next few days at lea

, because i think a, a, europe of nation states would likely return in europe to, into war levels of dysfunction and economic misery. well, that's a very strong statement there and how do you feel about that? because that is the charge and we've, you know, and it was all around the briggs that debate here is that the brussels wants too much power. and it is trying to one size fits all. i mean, it was at least the claims that were made by the briggs. it tears ok. now i asked you, did they learn anything from it? because there are, there are, we've all agreed on this program is that euro skepticism is on the rise. what is exactly means is very unclear to me because it seems to me, it is more of a demand for reform and not to got the entire project. go ahead, allen. well, i do understand the letters being signed by the circle populace parties. life view is the goal, you integrate, the less efficient, it becomes gross becomes less, most of its major policies of fail, the years fail, europe stagnate him do this. and so you was introduced the italian, they call them is patent student still

inside europe. we see a very concerned that if you share with us you know that you were speaking about russian partners and what's the result will join me for a new alliance this country is not so good but still gives you the future if you are we see that now the main driver of show us production europe was all about who was. always goes through it all and if we tried to analyze the real situation we still goes of course we still could use these two conferences speeches presentations but no business at last it was rated so you can compare notes through his show his production in europe are you in this thread a good thing with a reality show you this is true a dream. that's home look at the markets stocks across europe have rebounded as investors away to vote in each elizabeth that will show whether the country's prime minister still has a majority in germany the country's exports rose for a second month in september helping europe's largest economy whether the sovereign debt crisis the tax is more t

europe has no such alternative to europe's geopolitical position. just to enter a tight partnership with russia and at the same time grant you a session a turkey or that would be a sound strategy into the future the rest. of the russian president has warned that militarists rhetoric in the middle east and an attack on iran it could lead to a catastrophic war in the region of statements came during the joint press conference with his german counterpart russia has been voicing a strong words against an attack on iran following statements by israel that a strike is more likely than diplomacy or the u.n. atomic watchdog is about to report on iran's nuclear activities and provide evidence that tehran has built a testing facility and computer models of warheads iran has dismissed all allegations calling that were fabricated foreign affairs analyst richard says the i.a.e.a. report is designed to put pressure on iran in order to employ sanctions against it . first of all we have to be clear that there is a lot of obfuscation and speculation that the content

in twenty years time can still be a motive a model for europe or whether europe will be an excellent holiday destination people who just want to see where the automobile was invented or where the big goose and the first big commercial chemical plant was built on the contrary i want europe to remain a prospering continent to compete with the rest of the world and therefore sometimes we have to have to be quite strict to one another. you see presently. which is a with your permission. it's not just the markets went down somewhat after the announcement of mr bernanke a gold also collapsed why did it happen and i think that people were expecting the strengthening of the dollar for the benefit euro and some regional currency that would produce changes also in the commodities market and we should take that into account in our current economic policy and. the question that. madam chancellor. importance not only for the euro zone but also for us i said in my speech that we need to find a balance a combination of affective action in order to address the strategic tasks and also current operat

and europe and turkey . in europe and the united states. in this case is much more the responsibility of united states i think if i can say they'd yacking leaders you would decide. that europe is becoming the worst enemy if united states senator kerry ask you one more question about values because it's very interesting to me you've been very supportive of president call build a new european. would say that you have to kind of your own house in order before embarking on such grandiose plans when it comes to values what do you make off. wasn't in. keeping with. some discontent in the middle class from my point of view big mistake of managing a major decision about taxation on them specifically asking about. you when you have people that are breaking out destroying everything on the other hand also have the use of explosive grenades and. mains and kills people we are not seeing that even in authoritarian societies. not seen in the. at least 10 fatalities and several 1000 injured. and people losing eyes people losing their limbs. you know. but

middle way and nuclear systems in europe and in your country and. even into areas that time the time it's hard. to tell the americans what the our interests are at that time versus the reagan was in office and for example chancellor kohl. who had to have washington to tell him. mr president our interest is that you should. again. summits with the soviet partners that you should start controlling the arms reduction negotiations with the soviets that was our interest and we told the american and fortunately. three years later it worked in this you know the outcome where the far reaches controlling on certain actions agreement between your country. nato and your night it states therefore. the main over main interest is that we explain to your country and to the americans well oh into. and then be fun to find agreements is of this you or with america well top of this both are going about is talking about firing ok we're talking about european interests the chancellor has recently been boot ass she was speaking in the european parliament about the idea o

, the best for europe. that's best for the people of france. and the same time saying, well look, where was the united states, where was nato, when were united way? shouldn't done is adopted the position that he sees himself as representing although he doesn't, and that is the position a former french president shuffled a gun general from world war q, who basically pulled france out of needle command. and the french stayed outside of nieto until nicholas are cozy in rachel, the reason why my crown didn't do it because he has no courage. that's his problem . ok. he can talk all he was, but he didn't have any. great. i'm glad rachel brought this up because i was going to go to this here. let me go to drill on this here. mate, chrome defends dialogue with russia. continuing, cox with moscow can build, quote, a new architecture of peas. well, where were you? and december, january, and february, when the russians were talking about a new architecture for security in europe, a grow, this is laughable history is g

they both were essentially what was fought between europe or at least central europe. in the case of the 1st world war and russia. it's often forgotten this. the point is often overlooked picky from western perspective, because if your british or french, you know about the trenches in the, on the western front, but the, the war on russia, for example, in 1914, the, the 1st declaration of war was i, austria against serbia. and the 2nd declaration of war on the 1st of august, 1914, was by germany against russia. so the focus of those 2 world wars, and of course, even more so in the 2nd world war was between europe and russia. and as i say, while the soviet union then from 41 to 45, was of course on the allied side that was a small parenthesis. and so in other words, if you look at it in the round, we've had no more than a 100 years of major and constant jubilant of not constant, but very, very largely constant geopolitical confrontation between europe generally and russia. and that is now come to ahead with this, with this latest war in a way that few people for saw and

inside the europe. we see a very concern there to add you to shell gas. you know you were speaking about russian. for example germany france the new alliance this country. is the future if you will always see that now the main driver of shale gas production in europe was all about who was. always in those three ball and you food tried to analyze the real situation the sale goes of course we still have could we see conference suspicious presentations but no business. so you can compare notes through the show goes production in europe with you on the north rim is a reality show you says to a dream. let's take a look at the markets well it's trading near the highest level in three months lights we're just currently at around ninety six dollars a barrel while brant is a one hundred fifteen dollars. and you're at stocks are higher but they quickly slipped into read off the high in the early traders italian prime minister won a budget vote without an absolute majority and the european central bank council member said the e.c.b. cond bailout governments by print