tonight, chief justice john roberts calling the leak an egregious breach of trust. what does this mean for women if roe versus wade overturned? the 26 states that would likely quickly ban abortion. and the new abc news poll tonight, where do americans stand on this issue? terry moran at the supreme court. >>> president biden calling this draft ruling radical. if the supreme court strikes down roe, the president with an urgent warning, saying this will go beyond the right to choose to other basic rights. the right to marry, he said, would be in jeopardy next. mary bruce at the white house. >>> the war in ukraine tonight. russian air strikes knocking out power to parts of lviv. russian forces always launching an assault on that massive steel plant. and what's happened now to the 100 civilians including children who got out of that plant? ian pannell in ukraine. >>> here at home tonight, the newly released surveillance video showing an escaped murder suspect and corrections officer leaving the jail together, triggering this nationwide manhunt still under way what the s

one other thing, john, two years ago when john roberts cast the single most important vote to strike down a restrictive louisiana law, he joined with the liberals there, something he hadn't done before, but, again, he really wanted to preserve something of precedent. clarence thomas writing for himself said roe was made up of whole cloth, it has no basis in the constitution, it is time to overturn t it was egregiously wrong. right now, john, i can tell you that roe v. wade will soon be overturned, the question is will it be done immediately over protests from chief justice john roberts or will that sort of action be slowed because of some compromise that roberts is able to do, again, over the criticism of those on the far right and specifically these days justice clarence thomas who is the leading senior in that block of justices. >> so, joan, is this a one-way street in terms of the where this is being directed? is roberts responding ought all? and also it's coded language but what is thomas accusing roberts of, not being on the up and up? >> you know, it's funny you say it exactly

but we had chief justice john roberts who was willing to talk about it. and tomorrow justice clarence thomas is also here in atlanta and he's going to give remarks. >> we'll see what he has to say. >> you know -- >> jeffrey, go ahead. >> there's this mythology that the supreme court always gets along with each other. you know, they have a history of poisonous relationships. before world war ii, there was a justice named james mcreynolds who was such an anti-semite that he wouldn't sit in the same room with justice brandeis or justice cardoza. so the idea that the court needs to get along well to function is just not true. it's a more pleasant environment if they get along, but the history there is of a lot of rancorous discord. >> the chief justice also alluded to one bad apple who might be behind this leak. does that tell you anything about the status of the investigation? >> you know, not much. i mean i certainly don't know who leaked it. like a lot of people, i've noticed that there's a stapled corner. apparently it was a stapled opinion, so there was

the new details on the investigation tonight as chief justice john roberts calls the leak of the draft decision a betrayal. protests in the nation's capital and around the country. what happens now? the states that could immediately outlaw abortion, and could the decision impact gay marriage and a woman's right to contraception? reaction across america. from outraging to celebration. >> "roe v wade" is going to die! >> o'donnell: the president and lawmakers. >> "roe v wade" was wrong the day it was decided. >> it rocks my confidence in the court right now. >> i cannot tell. >> this is the "cbs evening news" with norah o'donnell reporting from the nation's capital. >> o'donnell: good evening, and thank you for joining us for a special edition of the "cbs evening news." we are here at the supreme court tonight ahead of what could be a seismic shift in american law, politics, and society, as tonight, the nation's highest court confirmed the authenticity of this leaked draft decision of a ruling that would overturn abortion precedent in this country. you can hear the protests behind me. wh

and the chief justice, john roberts, calling the release of this secret document an egregious breach of trust. this is unprecedented in our nation's history. reaction to the news is intense. you're looking at live pictures of the protests behind me and what this means depends on where you live. take a look at this map. 13 states have what's called a "trigger law." that would ban nearly all abortions if roe is overturned. 13 more states are poised to outla or restrict the procedure. we have team coverage tonight starting off with cbs' jan crawford with me here at the supreme court. good evening, jan. >> reporter: good evening, norah. this is really a shocking breach of privacy, something that didn't even happen when the presidency was on the line in "bush v. gore." it raises questions about how this court will ever recover and what that final decision will be. the unprecedented leak sent shockwaves through washington as protesters clashed outside the supreme court. >> i think women should maintain the right to choose and have autonomy over their own body. >> i was the product of an un

chief justice john roberts confirmed the authenticity of the text, but said it is not final. he also announced an investigation into the leak. if roe is overturned, about half of the states in our country would likely ban abortion or heavily restrict it. opponents of abortion rights applauded the news. >> ultimately you are murdering a child when you make that choice to abort. we don't believe that murdering a human is a choice. yamiche: president biden had this to say about the draft decision and the conservatives who support it. pres. biden: what are the next things that are going to be attacked? because this maga crowd is the most extreme political organization that existed in american history. yamiche: joining me to discuss this and more, a justice correspondent for nbc news, josh gerstein, senior legal affairs reporter for politico. he is one of the reporters who broke the scotus story and upended the week for all of us. and joining the in studio, jonathan martin, national political correspondent for the new york times and co-author of the new book "this will not pass."

chief justice john roberts confirmed the document is authentic. he ordered an investigation into how "politico" was able to obtain the draft opinion. >>> and russian forces began storming the steel plant in mariupol. this as civilians who evacuated from the bombed out facility reached safety more than 100 miles away. the u.n. says 101 people were evacuated from bunkers under the plant. they were trapped there for weeks as russian bombs rained down. several hundred civilians and an estimated 2,000 ukrainian fighters are still holed up in the plant. >>> the labor department will release the latest jobs report on friday. it's expected to show another 400,000 new jobs for the month of april. as naomi ruchim reports, millions of americans are looking for a new career. >> reporter: lucas lind worked full time in architectural for seven years but his passion was elsewhere. >> i always enjoyed photography. >> reporter: it started as a side hustle, and then he became a worker with fiber which connects businesses around the world. >> the variety of clients

you can read opinions by john roberts and tell they're john roberts opinions, or by thomas or alito. this sounds so much like aloe alito. doesn't sound as much from barrett or kavanaugh from the limited looks we've had at their opinions. >> right. >> again, my only question right now is, is this an early draft or not? josh said that it was not an early draft. it had opinion across the top. but that was written in february. again, perhaps this is the decision that will come out. but there can be a lot of horse trading going on between february and late june, when this opinion is released. i think the bigger question right now for us is the leak. why was there the leak? also, did the leak come from somebody in alito's camp, in the pro-life camp, that wanted to keep amy coney barrett and kavanaugh nailed down, more connected no alito opinion? or was it from somebody on the left who wanted to send it out as a warning? that roe v. wade, a 50-year precedent that 73% of americans support, that roe v. wade is going to be overturned in the next couple months. those are the questions that hang

you can tell chief justice john roberts believes so as well. he's irate. >> contentious days to come. terry mor an, thank you so much >> thanks, byron. >>> with abortion rights looming large, the primary season begins. ohio's first test of the former president's influence. my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here. ruby's a1c is down with rybelsus®. my a1c wasn't at goal, now i'm down with rybelsus®. mom's a1c is down with rybelsus®. (♪ ♪) in a clinical study, once-daily rybelsus® significantly lowered a1c better than a leading branded pill. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking rybelsus® with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low

chief justice john roberts and justice brett kavanaugh over the weekend. joining me now is the heritage foundation president, kevin roberts. kevin, thanks very much for being here. and jen psaki was asked about this. she said, look, i don't know where they protest. i don't care where they protest. it's just it has to be peaceful. your reaction. >> well, it's deplorable, maria. this is just something that stands in contrast to the biden administration calling peaceful parents at school boards domestic terrorists. if i've ever seen domestic terrorists in the last week it's certainly not parents at school board meetings but the knuckle heads at the justice's homes. justice alito had to be he removed to an undisclosed location. as i sit here with you, me, a pro lifer, i would never want my friends, associates and families doing this to the justices that support abortion. it violates safety. think of what they've had to put up for several months, intimidation and harassment by

john roberts said that roe versus wade is the law of the land. do you believe that? >> it is an important precedent of the supreme court. it has been on the books for a long time, it has been challenged on a number of occasions, and i discussed those yesterday. the supreme court has reaffirmed the decision, sometimes of merit, sometimes of deciding. >> they lead the foundation for roe v. wade. if your impression is law? >> -- versus casey reaffirmed the court holding of roe. that is the president of the court and settled in terms of the holding of the court. >> you can find the weekly on c-span now, our free mobile video app, or wherever you get your podcasts. >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. funded by these television companies and more, including comcast. >> you thought this was just a community center? no, it is way more than that. >> comcast is partnering with 1,000 community centers to create wi-fi enabled centers for students of low income families to get them ready for anything. announcer: comcast supports c-span as a public service, along with

protesters outside the homes of chief justice john roberts and justice brett kavanaugh. and tonight, what the republican leader in the senate is now saying about a federal abortion ban next, if roe versus wade is overturned. >>> more than a dozen fires burning tonight. the red flag warnings from nevada to oklahoma. thousands forced to evacuate. >>> grim discoveries in lake mead revealed by water levels dropping. another body found. >>> the critical shortage tonight of baby formula. supply chain issues and the major voluntary recall involving three popular brands. so, what are parents to do? >>> and there's news coming in tonight on queen elizabeth. what she is now skipping tomorrow for the first time in nearly 60 years. and who is stepping in. >>> good evening and it's great to start another week with all of you at home. and we begin tonight with the breaking news. the dramatic capture in the nationwide manhunt for an escaped murder suspect and the former corrections officer accused of having a relationship with him and helping him escape. the two on the run for 11 days

clarence thomas, who's been throwing shade at his fellow conservative, and the chief justice, john roberts, who might actually be behind the scenes trying to work for a compromise to uphold roe at least for now. listen closely here to what justice thomas said just the other day about what the high court was like before chief justice roberts came to be in 2005 and the friendships of yesteryear before he was a part of the court. >> this is not the court of that era. if the court that was together 11 year was a fabulous court. it was one you looked forward to being a part of. we actually trusted it. we may have been a dysfunctional family, but we were a family. i think the -- what's changed in society, modernity, post-modernity, i think attitudes have changed. >> have to wonder whether the rose-colored glasses are appropriate or really it was really the facts of the cases. and that was with the climate. either way, someone's not getting invited to the party. we're going to dig much deeper into that path forward with cnn's joan biskupic and her fascinating new reporting on this issue about the

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this is when john roberts starts working on kavanaugh. this is when john roberts starts working on amy coney barrett saying listen, we're conservatives here but we also have to protect the institution, guys. let's sit down and talk. what say you, john heilemann, regarding my 15-second question. >> a great question, joe. a great question. you can read it back to me again? >> yeah, i sure can -- so, maybe -- >> look, i think -- in my experience, there are different kinds of leaks motivated by different kinds -- by different kinds of motives. if this is a strategic leak or a tactical leak, whatever you want to call it, a leak with purpose, the likelihood it's a leak as you suggest by someone on the right who maybe not angrily but in a cold calculated way saw happening what you're talking about. i think much more likely it would be kavanaugh than coney barrett. but could be either one of those. but the prospect of upholding the mississippi law but ending up with a concurrence -- a plurality opinion written by alito with three justices signing

it used to be hard to tell where john roberts ended and justice alito began. but the draft opinion exposed how far apart these justices are now. >>> also ahead, startle lg are revelations from the former defense secretary about drug labs in mexico. it involved missiles. >>> and explaining why one trump adviser in particular was a dangerous influence. we'll be right back. more protection, more sun, more joy. neutrogena® beach defense® the suncare brand used most by dermatologis and their families, neutrogena® for peop with skin. throughout history i've observed markets shaped by the intentional and unforeseeable. for investors who can navigate this landscape, leveraging gold, a strategic and sustainable asset... the path is gilded with the potential for rich returns. ubrelvy helps u fight migraine attacks. u put it all on the line. u do it all. so u bring ubrelvy. it can quickly stop migraine in its tracks within 2 hours... without worrying if it's too late or where you are. unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks a protein believed to

and the other thing that is such a jolt to use a word that john roberts himself used and used at his own senate confirmation hearing is the way this all came out, don. typically, any draft opinion stays private. it's -- you know, i will often get leaks about votes. i'll often gets leaks who is writing the opinion but to get an opinion in hand that's gone as far as this one does on this big of an issue is amazing and i do have to say it presents the court with a couple different problems and i think it plays into how the confidence that the american public might have in the court or not have in the court. one of the reasons the chief justice was unlikely to want to overturn 50 years of precedent is how americans relied on roe for so many years and part of an understanding of the court's legitimacy and then to see it all apparently rolled back in this manner disclosed in someway in this, you know, in this stunning announcement, this stunning release of sorts tonight rather than at the end of june with very thoughtful consideration from both sides on the pros and cons, we don't know wha

john roberts confirmed the authenticity of a draft that would overturn roe v wade. that draft may not be the final word. >>> if the leaked overturning roe v wade takes effect it could lead to tighter state restrictions on birth control. a law professor at southern methodist university explains. >> we found when the affordable care act came into play there was a litigation called hobby lobby where there were employers that did not want to cover birth control because they define certain kinds of birth control as abortion and certain types of iuds and pills. we can see that this is not a kind of hypothetical. after roe v wade is overturned which is unfortunately a matter of when and not f, we can see that there are going to be challenges of certain types of birth control that might not be allowed anymore and certain types of pills and procedures that might not be safe for women to have. you can watch this whole story on nbc lx and check out stories like it at lx.com and you can watch lx unexpended elite channel 185 or on your antenna at 11-5. >>> for desperate parents

. >> reporter: chief justice john roberts released a statement calling the document authentic, but adds it does not represent a final decision from the court. that is expected in late june or early july. it's unclear how justice roberts will decide, though it appears the high court's other conservative justices are poised to sign with alito or they could change their minds. >> if it goes in the direction that this has indicated, it rocks my confidence in the court right now. >> we know history is on our side and we are determined to preserve precious rights that are the bedrock of this great nation. >> reporter: congressional democrats avowed to take a vote on abortion rights legislation and they say overturning roe versus wade could have major implications for the upcoming midterm elections. to that point it will be interesting to see how lawmakers decide to move forward. a growing number of democrats say they want to codify roe v. wade, but will they even have 50 votes in order to do so? we know senator joe manchin opposed that decision the last time a vote like this came up. another

. >> up next on the treatout the draft abortion decision makes it clear that chief justice john roberts had lost control of the court to the hyperpartisans who are there to serve of the right wing agenda, period. plus, new e-mails reveal more about how trump lawyer john eastman tried to convince red states to discard thousands it of ballots and declare trumpet winner. former attorney general eric holder joins me on that and the new book about endangered voting rights and america's new history of the shocking brutality by americans on indigenous children. "the reidout" continues after this. children "the reidout" continues after this hon! the weathertech's here. ♪ weathertech is the ultimate protection for your vehicle. laser-measured floorliners... no drill mudflaps... cargoliner... bumpstep... seat protector... and cupfone. ♪ what about my car? weathertech. as someone with hearing loss states to discard thousands it this. hat a co nfusing states to discard thousands it this getting hearing aids can be. that's why i founded lively. affordable, high-quality hearing aids with all of t

similar protests erupting across the country as chief supreme court justice john roberts with a full investigation into the leak of the high court opinion overturning roe vs. wade. >> joey: let's bring in doug luzader with mark, good morning, doug. >> joey, carley, good morning. invalid, but it does not reflect the final opinion of the courts. nevertheless as you have just seen, their protests around the country announce what many see as an assault on abortion rights. the president says it underscores the importance of electing pro-choice candidates for the midterm elections. >> the rationale decision, we will be sustained. a whole range of rights and questions. it will be a fundamental shift in what we have done. so it goes far beyond, in my view, if it becomes law and what is written and remains here it goes far beyond the concern of whether or not they will choose. >> in the meantime at the courts, the mystery continues. who leaked the draft opinion? chief justice john roberts issued a statement saying this "to the extent of betrayal the confidence of the court to undermine the in

back in oral arguments in december, it was chief justice john r roberts who seemed to be looking for a middle ground, maybe leave roe in place. that's not at all what we got earlier this week when we saw the leak of the draft opinion. justice samuel alito, he really went for the rafters here. he said that roe v. wade was egregiously wrong. he said that the issue should go back to the states and should be decided there, which is a very bad sign for supporters of abortion rights. and he basically was willing to throw out 50 years of precedent. it was only a draft opinion. it's not final. but it was -- it was very broad. today in these comments, roberts didn't talk about the merits of the case, but he said definitively that the leak, for him, was appalling, anderson. >> did he mention anything about the investigation into the leak? >> well, he didn't talk about the investigation. and that's an unusual point because when he announced it earlier this week, he said that it was going to be done by the marshal of the court. now, he could have said maybe to have the fbi look t ait, maybe a pr

so tonight republican lawmakers and chief justice john roberts are calling for a full investigation by the marshal of the court. a political earthquake on capitol hill after politico published an internal supreme court document showing a majority of justices are ready to overturn roe v. wade. the federal constitutional right to an abortion decision holes. it's really quite a radical decision . many republican lawmakers believe this unprecedented leak is an attempt to intimidate the nine justices. actions should be investigated. and punished. to the fullest extent possible, chief justice john roberts acknowledged the document is indeed real, calling this leak and egregious breach of trust and quote the work of the court will not be affected in any way that moment of truth is coming. for whoever is the culprit here . they are very likely to be interviewed in a relatively short time, as some democrats condemn the league. they also believe that republicans are trying to distract from the issue at hand. republicans are spending all their focus on the leak because they don't want to focus on

similar protests erupt across the country as chief john roberts calls for a full investigation into the leak of the draft opinion overturning roe v. wade. >> joey: doug luzader has more. doug. >> doug: there is the leak and the draft opinion, both may reverberate for years to come. president biden weighed in just before he boarded air force one yesterday. >> president biden: if the rationale of the decision as released were to be sustained, whole range of rights are in question, would be shift in what we've done, it goes far beyond, in my view, if it becomes a law and if what is written is what remains. goes far beyond concern of whether or not there is right to choose. >> doug: at the supreme court, chief justice john roberts instructed the marshal to investigate. to the extent this betrayal was intended to undermine integrity of the operation, it will not succeed, the work of the court will not be affects in any way. many republicans say the move was a move to intimidate the court. >> for years, the radical left attacked institution of the supreme court. last night it appears our camp

there was a period where john roberts was both the chief justice and the median judges for the cases that divide the court along ideological lines. he really controlled almost everything. once justice where it took justice ginsburg's seat, that shifted the balance to the right and the median justice is now somebody other than john roberts depending on the case. it may be neil gorsuch in some cases and that has meant that the chief justice prefers a bit of an incremental approach to the law. the idea that you might not go all the way in overturn roe in this case is consistent with what he might do. but if there are five justices that want to go further than he does, then he doesn't control that decision. host: greg stohr covers the supreme court for bloomberg. we are talking about the leak of that draft decision and the future of roe v. wade. here are the lines. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. all others (202) 748-8002. the court affirmed that it was an early draft decision but also initiated an investigation. what will that investigation look like? >> some peopl

justice john roberts finds himself in the hot seat in the wake of that shocking bretche of confidentiality. we'll have that story ahead. stay with us. >>> u.s. markets ended higher on friday, but it wasn't enough to erase days of heavy losses. the dow closed up nearly 1.5%. the nasdaq nearly 4%, and the s&p nearly 2.5%. spacex founder elon musk caused a stir when he said his $44 billion bid for twitter was, quote, temporarily on hold. twitter shares were down by almost 10% by the time markets closed for the weekend. musk said the hold was to conduct due diligence about the number of actual users on the platform. he tried to clean up his comments, saying he was still committed to the deal. >>> u.s. house speaker nancy pelosi took to the steps of the u.s. capitol to kick off a weekend of nationwide abortion rights protests. the demonstrations are taking place amid the anger over a leaked conservative of the u.s. supreme court opinion. if the court rules as the opinion indicates, it would overturn roe v. wade, the landmark case that enshrined the right to abortion. pelosi warned that the leak

but it's not enough. >> reporter: chief justice john roberts addressed the leak today calling it absolutely appalling, and called the leaker foolish. but the fallout has only intensified. in illinois, surrounded by five states set to restrict abortion services, clinics are trying to prepare for a flood of new patients. >> if every state that touches illinois suddenly has no access, we project even up to a five- times increase in patient demand, especially at our health centers that border other states. >> reporter: many of those out- of-state patients would be seen virtually and sent abortion pills, but those are also in jeopardy. at least 17 states have now introduced legislation to ban or restrict access to the pills. michigan's democratic attorney general dana nessel worries is it could happen in her state. >> whether it's by medication, whether it's surgical, it doesn't matter. abortion will be illegal in our state, period. >> reporter: meanwhile, here at the white house, plans for a new press secretary. karine jean-pierre is set to become the first black person, first openly gay person

i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. set your dvr so you don't miss a minute of the program. "the story" with martha starts right now. >> martha: thanks, john and sonda. good afternoon, everybody. i'm martha maccallum in fox news head quarters in new york. right now on "the story," this -- >> the story today is an effort by someone on the inside to discredit the institution of the senate which continues a pattern that we've observed over the last couple years. >> martha: we'll talk a lot about that. what is the pattern that we've seen that

chief justice john roberts confirmed this morning. the lead to document is authentic but said it does not represent an official decision by the court or the final position of any justice. i hope are not enough votes for president biden said overturning this landmark decision from 1973, what threat and a whole range of rights >>whether or not right. right to marry. >>this is a dark and disturbing morning for america to supreme court is poised to inflict the greatest restriction of rights in the past 50 years. not just on women, but all overturning this case would clear the way for individual states to decide whether abortion would be legal. women would still have the right to decide in states like california and new york. but the procedure could be banned in nearly half of the country. places like the midwest and the south. republicans like senate minority leader mitch mcconnell blasted liberals saying someone within the court leaked to the draft. >>as part of fun, inappropriate pressure campaign to sway an outcome. liberals want to ri

roberts ha calificado como una traiciÓn a la confianza de la corte. es una circunstancia Única que en nada la favorece. y ya hay protestas y posicionamientos de lÍderes polÍticos, entre ellos el presidente joe biden. esta fue su reacciÓn. (informaciÓn en pantalla) >> vamos de inmediato con marÍa vargas, buenas tardes, adelante, marÍa. >> buenas tardes, felicidad, pues desde anoche y durante el transcurso de las horas y de esta maÑana han estado aquÍ llegando, levantando sus voces quienes estÁn en contra del aborto y tambiÉn quienes defienden los derechos de la salud reproductiva, ellos estÁn diciendo que su cuerpo es su derecho, que nadie puede decidir sobre las decisiones que ellos deben de hacer con su salud reproductiva. nosotros tambiÉn tenemos entendido que la corte suprema acaba de decir que el borrador que se filtrÓ es original, es autÉntico, sin embargo, el presidente del tribunal supremo john roberts dice que de ninguna forma esta es una decisiÓn final y ademÁs ya ordenÓ que se investigue para llegar al fondo de dÓnde se fi

quote, chief justice john roberts did not want to completely overturn roe v. wade, meaning we have dissented from part of alito's draft opinion. roberts is willing, however, to uphold the mississippi law that would ban abortion at 15 weeks of pregnancy. now, days later, we saw yet another leak, when the "washington post" reported information based on private discussions inside the court. quote, a person close to the most conservative members of the court said roberts told his fellow jurists in a private conference in early deser that he planned to uphold the state law, and write an opinion that left roe and casey in place for now. but the other conservatives were more interested in an opinion that overturned the precedent, the person said. now, today, "politico" reports that justice alito's leaked draft opinion from february is the only opinion that circulated inside the court so far. it reports the liberal justices have yet to circulate a dissent. and there's no new revised majority decision. what we have seen is it so far. and it is still the majority decisi

there was a period where john roberts was both the chief justice and the median judges for the cases that divide the court along ideological lines. he really controlled almost everything. once how did they come to a consensus on decision or decided case? >> after the argument they always have a private conference where they take an initial vote within a week or two after that, the senior justice and the majority and this appears to be justice thomas, gets to assign the opinion to somebody and that person drafts what will be a majority opinion and other justices can say i joined that opinion and i agreed to be of art of it and then they start writing the consents as well -- the dissents as well. host: a more in-depth look at several in those it -- in the draft. when you read the draft, did it comport to what you heard from justice alito in particular, the questions he may have asked during the mississippi case during oral argument? guest: it did and it comports with what he set on the bench and his of units and speeches over the years where he wants to look at the constitution from an

john roberts better not do anything that can be subject to pressure. that would mean liberals are threatening to the court. so this is what exactly is the same. the structure, is you, know liberals are out of their minds. they're hysterical. they're crazy, they're complaining about the shadow docket. and john roberts better not get squishy or he's already gone squishy, he better not pick off another. so, it's just so hard to look at those and not see that there is a slight pattern of special pleading at the court. that is coming from that editorial page. >> right, special pleading based on insider knowledge. the whole discourse around the sacrosanct and viability of the knowledge inside the crypt must never leak out. they are talking about it in most cases where it's like, really lucky in mind reading. there's some kind of information. >> yeah, i mean, jeff toobin and the oath reported this out very thoroughly. i think that we knew at the time that there were a lot of conservative pundits who knew what was happening in deliberations and so i'm not sayi

there was a period where john roberts was both the chief justice and the median judges for the cases that divide the court along ideological lines. he really controlled almost everything. once justice where it took justice ginsburg's seat, that shifted the balance to the right and the median justice is now somebody other than john roberts depending on the case. it may be neil gorsuch in some cases and that has meant that the chief justice prefers a bit of an incremental approach to the law. the idea that you might not go all the way in overturn roe in this case is consistent with what he might do. but if there are five justices that want to go further than he does, then he doesn't control that decision. host: greg stohr covers the supreme court for bloomberg. we are talking about the leak of that draft decision and the future of roe v. wade. here are the lines. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. all others (202) 748-8002. the court affirmed that it was an early draft decision but also initiated an investigation. what will that investigation look like? >> some peopl

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john roberts has served on the court since 2005 the george w bush nominee had this to say when asked about the 1973 roby wade decision. well senator the importance of settled expectations in the application of starry decisis is a very important consideration that was emphasized in the casey opinion, but also in other opinions outside that area of the law the principles of starry decisis. look at a number of factors settled expectations one of them and as you mentioned whether or not particular precedents have proven to be unworkable is another consideration on the other side whether the doctrinal basis of a decision have been eroded by subsequent developments, for example, if you have a case in which they're three precedents that lead and support that result and in the intervening period two of them have been overruled that may be a basis for reconsidering the the prior president. there's no there's no doc. doctrinal basis erosion and grow is there. well, right. i feel the need to stay away from a discussion of particular cases. i'm happy to discuss the principles of starry decisis a

and you saw that -- chief justice john roberts coming here to give this talk this week. he said it was absolutely appalling. he suggested that it -- it won't too much impact the court's work. then you had clarence thomas, and this is interesting, right, because thomas repeated s something he said before. he believes that individuals more and more are attacking institutions when they don't get the policy judgment or the policy they want. >> he used the word bullied as if the protest or public outcry is now bullying because it is speaking out -- speaking out, calling that, you know, bullying government. bullying institutions? >> yeah. that's his point, and he says if you don't get what you want, you can't bully the institution. and he said that this leak is a symptom of that. here's why that's interesting on two fronts. first of all, he was probably a vote in favor of roe, most likely here. but also keep in mind, fred, it was just last month that it was revealed that thomas' own wife, right, was in contact with the trump administration trying to reverse election results. y

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chief justice john roberts with his statement. we'll have more coming up on that. critics blast the department of homeland security's new disinformation governance board as orwellian. the white house keeps deflecting questions about whether disinformation czar nina jankowicz will squash info that could be bad for the biden administration. the white house press secretary just yesterday. >> she has said she thinks the hunter biden laptop is russian disinformation. so should we look forward in the future to her censoring internet traffic about the hunt he biden laptop? >> continuing the work of the prior administration and the woman you noted has extensive experience and has done extensive work addressing disinformation. >> sandra: republicans are having none of it. josh hawley tweeting there is no confusion over the biden administration disinformation board. everyone understands exactly what it is. a censorship committee to punish free speech, dissolve it now. peter doocy is live at the white house on the continued fallout from this decision. hi, peter. >> within the

>> so what i would say is i don't think this is chief justice john roberts court anymore. and that's what we've seen with respect to this draft opinion. we see now that their 5 members of the court, something we already knew that don't need the chief justice and that really bears emphasizing the chief justice of the united states, a very conservative jurist is to the left of center of the supreme court over which he is the chief justice. he is the so-called first among equals. so, yes, it's the roberts court in the sense that he has that title and he does have powers a result of that title. but he has lost so so much of his power because the conservatives do not need him for decisions. now, how is he feeling tonight? you asked me or what does he think of this? i have a feeling he's absolutely horrified. the one thing that we hear over and over again about john roberts is that he cares so much about the institution of the court. the court now looks like i think a political branch with leaks to the press and that's not what he wants. now, you know, we can save the tape and m

we loved it. >> just to be clear, the 11 years he is talking about, that's before john roberts was on the court, chief justice. is he trying to take a swipe at the guy who is supposed to be leading the charge? >> it's public swipe. it does bring to mind the fact that this opinion has not come out yet. there are things that need to be determined. >> politics happening on the court. >> in a way we haven't seen in the past. we will see what the opinion actually says. it's still a jump ball. >> questions about whether john roberts is still trying to bring conservatives over to a moderate position on the issue of abortion. >>> coming up, when racial reckoning isn't enough, what will it take to spark real change in america? new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you spons a job, you immediately get whose resumeon indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. you immediately get grillin', chillin', spillin', dillin'. bec-ing. never brie-ing. smokin', yolkin', flippin', dippin'. if you're not oozing, then yo