alyse nelson is the organization's president and ceo. i spoke with the two of them in a wide-ranging discussion about the significance of female leaders, russia's invasion of ukraine and the recently leaked supreme court draft decision that could overturn roe v. wade. secretary clinton, alyse nelson, very good to have you both with us. secretary, we are here in the new offices of this building. you're calling the global embassy for women. what does that mean? secretary clinton: great. well, thank you for being with us, judy, because i do remember you were in beijing in 1995 covering that conference, and you can trace a line from there to this day. we really started vital voices 25 years ago to carry on the work that came from the beijing conference about women's rights being human rights and a whole platform for action to eower women. and th building is a tangible symbol of that work. the network of women leaders that has been created, the financial and mentoring support that has been provid. and we wanted to have a building right here i

alyse nelson is the president and c.e.o. of the nonpartisan vital voices. >> it's certainly not lost on me that we are opening the doors to this global embassy for women's leadership at the same time that the rights that, quite frankly, i was born into, are now being rolled back. i think we need a global embassy because we need permanence. if you look around, there are so few places for women to gather. >> o'donnell: on the walls portraits of groundbreaking women, including her friend, madeleine albright, the first female secretary of state. and i know you're thinking of madeleine albright on this day. >> madeleine and i were the cofounders of vital voices all those years back. and it started as a dream that we could create a group that would keep the emphasis on women's issues and women's rights going forward. >> o'donnell: it's 2022. >> yes, it is. >> o'donnell: why are there still so few women in leadership positions in politics? >> it is so difficult to be in the public arena as a woman. and there is a double standard. l

alyse nelson is the president and ceo of the nonpartisan vital voices. >> it's certainly not lost on me that we are opening the doors to this global embassy for women's leadership at the same time that the rights that quite frankly i was born into are now being rolled back. i think we need a global embassy because we need permanence. if you look around, there are so few places for women to gather. >> reporter: on the walls, portraits of groundbreaking women, including her friend madeleine albright, the first female secretary of state. >> and i know you're thinking of madeleine albright on this day. >> well, madeleine and i were the co-founders of vital voices all those years back. and it started as a dream that we could create a group that would keep the emphasis on women's issues and women's rights going forward. >> it's 2022. >> yes. >> why are there still so few women in leadership positions in politics? >> it is so difficult to be in the public arena as a woman. and there is a double standard. let's be very clear about that. women are judged much more harshly. to sustain the cont