talko you and it was extly seven minutes after the hour that we were on air and started to look at pictus of the capitol a started to realize it did not look like a regular protest. rhaps america is still deciding whethert wants to look at the scale of what happened and acknowledge the scale of what happened. >> i think that is an interesting point. if you look back to that day, there was quite a lot of confusion about what was actually happening and the extent of the violence, and really the extent of the violence has come out over a period of time, as those videos have been reased, have been found and transmitted and put in evidence and all that kind of thing. so the picture took a while to form completely, but n there is a pretty clear picture of the brutality and the violence and it is shocking at times and you see those pictures, as police officers him of the way they were treated, being dragged down the stairs, the police officer in the doorway, the pepper spray, the yelling, this year brutality and animosity of the whole thing. that took some time, and i think it still continues to