they enforce state law. shelley versus kramer being the most prominent landmark example of that. can you fill in the gaps there and explained to me how we should think about that language and light of how we conceptualize state court enforcement of private civil suits now? >> yes your honor. i think the most straight forward ways to apply ex parte young is to apply relief on ex parte young that was up the commencement of the suits and not create any of the problems raised in ex parte young about stopping the adjudication for a quick sorry to interrupt i think justice thomas' question wasn't getting at, take the point to distinguish the judges from the clerks. are they in that language are you saying we should not do that and i just want to hear your answer why should we do that? >> that's right i don't think so that language i think that language supports relief against the clerks versus whether courts should restrain there are instances of the court has recognized where it relief against eight judges and co

general stone would be representing state d.a. or state executive official. we'd have arguments about the merits which we're not dealing with today. your case by contrast seems just different and irregular and unusual and we don't know where it goes. if you could fill in and maybe this will be repetitive, but you think the u.s. has authority to bring a suit like this against any state law that -- >> that violates the court's precedence and tries to shield that from any effective judicial review in federal or state court. and i recognize justice cavanagh that this is an unusual suit. the reason we have done it here is that sb 8 is so unprecedented, extraordinary, and extraordinarily dangerous for our constitutional structure, that if texas is correct that it can successfully evade the mechanism that's this court recognizes and congress recognized, then no constitutional right is safe and we think in this extraordinary circumstance the united states should protect the federal supremacy of law. >> what if our precedent all together was just uncertain. if there w

state court? what's the difference between this case where you think he's an enforcer and 4 billion other cases? you've read their briefs, you understand their argument. what's your response to it? >> the response is that under the rule that we are advancing here, is that where a state is trying to nullify the exercise of a right, a constitutional right that's been recognized by this court, by delegating enforcement to the public, and taking away the normal, ordinary executive officials, and then also creating special court rules in order to turn the court system -- we're not saying that judges or clerks are intending to do anything here. but it's the rules that have been created by the texas legislature that turn courts into a weapon that can be used to nullify constitutional rights. >> you might appreciate that the idea of suing the judges sort of got our attention. but is there even -- is there even a case or controversy in such a suit? i understand the position of the plaintiff, exactly what h

we've seen that in state after state. and texas is a good example, we are a previous investigation was conducted by the department of transportation, focusing on the individuals who were previously legally resident but had not yet become citizens. and somehow suggesting that that population had cast votes fraudulently. there was absolutely no evidence to that effect. and many of the voters who had previously been in that pool of legally admitted resident aliens, went on to become u.s. citizens and should have been entitled to vote. the effort to intimidate them into not coming back at future elections has been consistent throughout states that have chosen to have these audits. and that's why we say that they are intended to disenfranchise future voters. >> thank you very much, i appreciate that. >> thank you very much, senator merkley, thank you for your work in this area. senator hagerty is next. >> secretary adams, i'd like to turn my next questions to you. in your experience, secretary adams, do voters tend to have bet

. >> do you agree to follow up that state court clerks and state judges enforce state law when they entertain private civil suits? >> no, i don't believe they can be enforcing them -- >> how do you deal with the language in shelly versus kramer that uses the word enforce? >> i think in that context, it is coming after a judgment has been entered by the court. but simply adjudicating a case at the outset and docketing a complaint, that is enforcement. and it goes to the remedy that the united states is seeking with respect to the private individuals. they're asking the court to restrain texas from adjudicating lawsuits. they want to stop the clerks from docketing the complaints. they want to stop the judges from hearing or presiding over the cases. the problem is that the private individuals are not doing any of those things that the state has been enjoined from doing, they are doing something different. they're the ones filing the lawsuits. the state can't file the lawsuit, and it can't be enjoined from doing so. they are telling it not to file a lawsuit, and they're stopping the state from d

other states have a joint function of the commissions and the state legislatures. are these independent commissions really independent? do they result in fair apportionment, or is a result a mixed bag depending on the state? >> i will say mixed bag but somebody can argue with me. they are the gold standard but they don't have some of the issues as far as counterbalancing it. who thinks it is fantastic? >> it depends how you define the commission. >> what is the worst? >> new jersey. new jersey is up there. >> ohio. >> -- >> they are bipartisan commissions that are closely tied to the political process where people have -- sometimes they are legislators themselves were directly appointed by people. ither the more independent commissions like california where you have to write five essays if you want to be in the district in before three auditors. it is a 90 minute interview. lawmakers are not as directly involved in selecting people. the data is limited. california's commission has drawn one set of maps. arizona's commission is in operation longer. the first round e

none of our states are immune. the people of dayton are still working to recover from the tornadoes that destroyed their neighborhood in 2019. senators menendez and kennedy state though -- states though, devastated the summer by a changing climate and, frankly, congressional failure to do much about addressing the climate change, our country will continue to face extreme weather events and natural disasters and we must be better prepared to recover from these disasters efficiently and equitably and rebuild our homes to be more resilient in the future. today's hearing looks at the critical role we play in offering disaster relief to the communities affected by disasters and we will discuss how we can improve that aid, i hope, through a permanent authorization of the program. since 1993 congress has provided 95,000 million dollars in disaster relief recovery assistance to states, territories, and communities through supplemental disaster recovery appropriation, particularly to low income and middle class families hit

and a state supreme court has to decide as a matter of state constitutional law what the scope of an abortion right is. and the second trimester ends at 27 weeks. and so that state supreme court says we think that the right exists in an absolute sense that the state can not take away the right up to 27 weeks and after that adopts an undue burden standard. as a matter of first principals, is that line acceptable as a matter of constitutional law? >> your honor, it may be, but i think that the question in this case is whether a line is obviously more principled or more workable than viability because of the con -- >> why? that's the roe framework. the trimester. why wouldn't that be workable if you pick a line and say 27 weeks, third trimester state's interests increase. i don't understand why 27 weeks is less workable than 24? >> i'm not trying to suggest it is. what i was trying to suggest is the viability line is a principled and workable line. to change it, there would have to be a new line that's more workable and principled and the line that the court has drawn actually -- >> but

we have seen that in state after state. texas is a good example, where a previous investigation words in that -- was conducted focused on individuals who were legally resident but had not yet become citizens, and somehow suggesting that population had cast votes urgently. there was no evidence to that effect. many of the voters who had previously been in that pool, legally admitted resident aliens, went on to become u.s. citizens and should have been entitled to vote. the effort to intimidate them into not coming back at future elections has been consistent throughout states that have chosen to have these audits. that is why we say there intended to disenfranchise future voters. >> thank you, i appreciate that. >> senator hagerty is next. >> thank you chair global chart -- chair klobuchar. in your experience, secretary adams, in accordance with local conditions and preferences? or when the rules are wrong, is it dictated in partisan fashion by washington politicians and bureaucrats? >> i cannot say that i have lived through

to the archivist of the united states. to the wisconsin secretary of state. you the chief judge of the u.s. district court to the western district of wisconsin. these are all the places, the actual electoral vote count is supposed to be submitted, if they were real electives. they submit is theirs as if it were the real thing. pursuant to three u.s. code section 11 in close please find, wisconsin's electoral votes for president and vice president. there was no such thing, enclosed with that document. there was a forged documents saying wisconsin's electors voted for trump. which was not true. those were not real electors. these documents were forged to make it look like wisconsin was officially saying trump won the state, when actually biden did. it's amazing that they did that, in the milwaukee journal sentinel, who had this scoop that the republicans had done that secretly behind closed doors. while the real electors were meeting down the hall, they had this no toward the end of their reporting that day. again, this is just over a year, ago this was decembe

southern states throw up every barrier they could to education. and black people broke them down time and time again. northern states erected barriers too. even if not always as overtly. jump forward a little bit : : arguing that if a black student wants to attend a law school in oklahoma it will just take some time, they will have to wait for it and he is rebutting that argument saying how do you expect them to set up a law school and the state admits they have no money to establish a law school besides the cost of setting up the school isn't the citizens problem. we do not compose the dual education and if it is expensive it is not our fault. i think that line, that after all this history yes it will be expensive to just think about the proposition of educational equity is important because it is not the responsibility of those that had the system placed upon them but those that placed the system. i'm excited for the conversation and look forward to joining you all. >> thank you and thank you to the bookstore and adam for inviting us to this dis

them as acting in concert with the state to enforce a state preferred policy? >> two points, your honor, first, every tort action undoubtedly advances a state preferred policy. the reason why they're not acting in concert with or -- >> usually when you think of traditional torts, there is a duty, there's an injury to the individual. it's a private matter. there is no requirement here that there be an injury to the plaintiff. >> your honor, the texas supreme court has followed article three requirements in terms of injury and fact that doesn't need to appear on this -- >> so what would that injury be under sb-8 if it's an injury in fact? >> one example could be the tort of outrage where an individual becomes aware of an uncomplied abortion and suffer the same extreme emotional harm that would ground an article 3 injury for purposes of texas law that would be sufficient to satisfy the texas article 3 style screen that addresses some of my friends on the other side's concerns about an unlimited set of lawsuits or that anyone could possibly bring an asb-8 action. c

it's the united states versus the atop procedure united states versus russia and china. and the purpose of the summit is to create, trying to create a star contrast between those to the idolized vision america versus the overly propagandized. a pitcher that we've painted about the, you know, the evil nature of a russian and chinese rule. it's, it's purely a propaganda ploy. i don't think i'm 60. yeah, let me got alexa here in moscow. i guess, you know, it's a, it's a crating, some kind of global alliance against russia against china. i guess also hungry hungry didn't get invited. ok. oh, and you know, at the same time ukraine, sir, i suppose it's there because of the u. s. was behind a coup that over through the democratically elected government in february of 2014, so conveniently, they made it out on board here. i say this is just a farce. this is a propaganda effort here. and it countries have interests. they don't necessarily have values, values and interest coincide. that's great. but values are do not ra rule. they never have and they never will on, in internationa

throughout the united states. the real work begins in the states in the territories. that limitation of all of that lies ahead. today's session gives us an opportunity to hear from the governors both the challenges that they are facing, how they are thinking about implementation and what their priorities might be. i am very eager as i know so many of you are to hear from the governors. we arean going to start with governor hogan and then moved on to all the governors. i told the governors, i think of the easiest job at this day this is a wealth of information and i'm eager to hear it. governor hogan. >> taking very much and thanky you, mr. chairman for putting this together. i am very pleased to have my fellow governors here and i want to thank the mda for hosting a here. and thank everybody for all their incredible work to get us to this point. not only for p the summit but wh getting the bipartisan infrastructure bill done. i know a lot of people in this room had a lot to do with that. we finally got it done and

a state. democrats try to end the filibuster, they try to pack the court, they do secret impeachment hearings in the bunker, in the basement of the capitol. they just said a naval veteran is afraid of the truth. and now today -- now today they're destroying executive privilege. the united states supreme court said those must be free to explore alternatives in the process of shaping policies and making decisions. and to do so in a way that many would be unwilling to do except privately. the court further stated, presidential administrations of both parties have asserted that president's close advisors are an extension of the president. who are these close advisors? who are these individuals who are an extension of the president of the united states? well, there's actually a bunch. but certainly the three most important are the national security advisor, the white house counsel, and the chief of staff to the president. and i would argue the chief of staff is the closest of the close. he's the on

it's a process that happens that has a real world impact on people in our state and every state of the country. >> it's interesting, a lot of people think that gerrymandering problem it does meet the policies in your state, but we also mention it also affects congress and the ability to -- a great example among the southern states right now at districts in the house have been gerrymandered so bad that it was very difficult for anyone -- we don't have swing districts. throughout the south. there are just very few and most of them are gerrymandering stuff that they are going to either be republican or democrat. right now, you know if in 2020 do we keep the status quo in the south and the republicans elect the house seats that they have now, the democrats reelect the seats that they hold now, then democrats would have to win over 60% of the remaining districts in order to have a one vote majority. and that just doesn't seem fair to folks even another states. it is so gerrymandered and contributes in both ways. i mean, it seems to me -- and i would like for both of you to comment, how have

the states. that's a sea change in of how the american people would govern themselves previously under the articles. >> thank you so much for that crucial distinction you are making between a mirroring of the people and a reflection that is enlarged and refined their views, and that distinction between ordinary lawmaking and constitutional lawmaking is one that you brought up so well that explores, elucidate so powerfully in the discussion of the jepson and the other founders understanding of the rise ofef conventions as bodies that would reflect the slow and deliberate sense of the people and is crucial to american constitutionalism. emily, the founders thought the virtuous necessary for the republic to survive and they define virtue as a personal and political act. of reason to master the unreasonable passion like anger, jealousy and fear. politically they needed to do that so they could choose wise representatives who would deliberate for them to serve for the common good rather than self-inte

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it would just allow the states to do it on a state by state basis. actually, roe was a made up right created a constitutional right that's not even stated in the constitution itself and it created an arbitrary time limit in which abortions could be performed or not as a matter of constitutional rights. so i join the rest this have body in this country in awaiting the supreme court's ruling. i believe that it's more than appropriate for the supreme court to revisit its precedents, that essentially disparaged and denigrated the right to life of an unborn child. ... my friend from oklahoma. the presiding officer: the senator from oklahoma. mr. lankford: in december of 1952, again in december of 1953, the supreme court was packed. fs there was lines out into the hallway with people waiting to get in to hear oral arguments. in december the court would hear arguments on the legality of segregation brought by thurgood marshall representing the brown marshall representing the brown by thurgood marshall represented brown family of topeka,6 kansas. just 56 yea

a patriot puts the united states, not the state of texas, not the state of florida. if you can remember, texas at one point during the obama administration wanted to secede the union. what you are saying is impossible to credit. guest: first of all, referring back to my point about china, i think you have to differentiate between whoever has the majority in texas. i do not they get anytime a majority of texans have wanted to secede. i suspect the people who talk about it or not that serious about it either. there is plenty of room for federalism without going back to the horrible practice of slavery . one of the things we modified the constitution that we put in the 14th amendment and the 13th of may meant -- the 13th amendment was a way to extend the rights of the founders intended for all human beings so that they applied to all human beings and there is still work to be done there. when you concentrate power in the hands of people in a distant city who are mostly unaccountable to the electorate, that is when you are going to see continued abuse of regular people o

to turn to turn the entire state into a ballot state -- she is trying to turn the entire state into a ballot state. i hope this committee will consider these remarks and make sure that we do not pass either of these bills. come up with common sense voting reforms. thank you and i yield back. >> thank you for your testimony. we wish you and your family and your constituents a very merry christmas. we are moving right along. congressman taylor has joined us. he represents texas, the 3rd congressional district. good morning. you have approximately five minutes. >> thank you. point to make sure that you guys can hear me -- i want to make sure that you guys can hear me? i appreciate this topic. prior to being elected i was an election judge. i have experience in the administration at the polling station level of elections. i wanted to first say election fraud is deeply upsetting. i have seen it on a personal level. the first time i was a poll watcher, i watched a woman come in to vote on election day and she was informed she had already voted. she said that is impossible, i have been out o

it was never a viable state, still not a viable state in them, a good chunk of the population. the doesn't want to be in that thing and they were forced to ok. they were me to military force, they were forced to join the state and they didn't want to be part of it. it's unravel the serves in bosnia herzegovina saying they don't want to participate anymore. and so there's the possibility of a war. why? i mean, i don't understand why this is something, something that's so important to the european union, and i even less understand why it's important to the americans go on how your role in the grades are either way, if it could have work of the problem is that the e u is actually been a great extent there also a lot of this chaos because it has been the primary actor to undermine and the fragile state of the bus there, which was set up because just briefly when the war and also came to an end in $95.00, it had the deep agreements which essentially states and what the cost, what solution in the constitutional b, which was, was there were 2 or thomas entity is supposed to occur on t

s. government life for the united states does. it is important to deal with the united states in a sense constrain the worst aspect of us behavior by international agreements like the j c p away. so as long as it is, i think it is important to try to get back to either the g p, a or something that at least tries to buy bound not just united states, but all parties to some semblance of international standards. and international law, however, is it as easy as the window of opportunity closing? is there a time limit on these talks or can i just continue ad nauseum? of course there is no official or kind of formal time limits, but given that will size, i mean it seems that both sides are continuing to increase their level or is there can be a point when you know the talks would be kind of meaningless because i'm the one hand each round of negotiations and failing so kind of persuade united states to lift the sanctions. iran continues with its nuclear activity development, so it's not good. i think it is the same time we have a referen

since today's hearing is also about the state of the state department, we must address the state's role on the hazardous role of the withdrawal of afghanistan. despite efforts to put afghanistan in the rearview mirror, it remains a pressing national security concern for the senate and for the american people. it's been over a month since secretary blinken appeared before this committee and we have yet to receive the secretary's responses to our questions for the record that were propounded at that time. this is an unacceptable delay and we expect better responsiveness from the department, which they have always promised, but never executed on. on the issue of continued evacuations. in september, secretary blinken assured us there were just 100 americans remaining in afghanistan that wish to depart. 100. just last week, however, the team responsible for continued evacuations of americans told us that they were working on over 170 americans who wish to depart more than 360 americans who remain there. i ask to enter into the data aggregate data my staff collected about the botched evacuati

your state experience in massachusetts, my first state experience was also in massachusetts. and it's, you know, it's -- we all know all states are different but that as i worked in other states, i found that the infrastructure, that kind of oversight in massachusetts was stronger than it was in much of the rest of the country. of course my data are now very, very old. but i am curious sort of what's the federal government's role in pushing or helping the states move beyond that first layer of say, we've got managed care contracts, that's good enough. daniel: i would say this with great affection and partnership with the health plan community that i'm often chatting with, health plans can do an incredible amount. at the same time, i don't think, as we think about medicaid, whether thinking at the state level or federal level, where we are in 2021 with the goal of where we want to progress. simply having a contract with a managed care entity, paying capitation, handing capitation over and assuming everything will happen, you've acknowledged the difference in state resources. t

but by letting each state vote. by majority vote in that state. whether fetuses will be protected women will be protected. and there's a third first that i think is extremely important. you ended with the quotation from justice sotomayor asking whether the institution of the supreme court can preserve its legitimacy. continue it's important role in our country if the stench of on that court it's so visible and evident as it will be, when nothing but the composition of the court has changed. nothing else has changed in the 30 years since casey. and really in the 50 years since roe. nothing constitutionally relevant, it's just that there are some new faces there. important as the institutional legitimacy of the court's, and i think it's important. even more important, even more fundamental is the question, will we have a legitimate form of law if we have a nation in which half the citizens, half the citizens have less than full rights? we men have the right to control our bodies. we have a court that says bodily integrity is important, even when you

of the state hub. yeah. it doesn't work. they would like to serve in the region, struggling to see them be able to stand before. yeah. and then they got their 3rd option which was ok will be in the home, isn't the inside of the session is most now, but now they can't even have this. so they're essentially threatening to ignore the someone colonial power and even break away unless you stop undermining the agreement, which the claims it's trying to hold. so obviously most goes away and it's the mounting wanted scolding effectively. use colonial mentality in this whole project . so it's a big question, what can be done at this point? i mean, you can only use the search and the russians have undermining the agreement, but they're the main ones refusing to implement that. so it's, it's a very weird conflict to have, especially for the european so you can charge that. you can't really bother not trying to keep trying, doing the wrong things. because the very predicate is a, is something that can come to frui

providing it equal education in the state must provide comes from us -- the state must provide equal protection under the 14th amendment and for so long the state and federal government as i well as higher education institutions have not been doing it. >> i think that's another piece of the story that was new to me was how integrated the? to integrate k-12 education was and higher education in these were the building blocks around brown tea board of bed so i wasn't aware of that and i think it's a story that isn't out there. there's so much focused on k-12 and we forget. >> it's interesting because the reason they chose higher ed because it was such a clear path. if you go live -- believe separate. equal the cursing it to do is find a separate institution. that quote from the lawyer and oklahoma in the beginning that comes from him saying the state has not provided created a separate institution and it's going to create a separate institution and make itep equal. and the provocation ended up tearing out the cause the state of oklahoma does so in five days. they run out of rome in the

have to not like some states want to but this state doesn't want to. why does the state have to subsidize the right? >> it's conditioning the availability on the surrender of a constitutional right as held in thomas the government cannot compel a citizen to choose between exercise of the rights protected by the first amendment and participation in an otherwise available public program and there's no question -- >> just like the state defined the nature of the program and countless other cases, so year the state is defining the nature of the program and saying where is the reason justice breyer gave that we just defined the program so broadly as to raise all these questions of religious favoritism, religious division and so forth. >> in a program like rust which the united states briefs, you're dealing with government speech. this isn't a government speech program to the extent it is, however, as the court made it clear the establishment must comport which requires neutrality towards religion. moreover, the doctors were not forced to choose between rece

in the states individual state can commit crime. but not if you want to look at state violence or state authorized violence, as opposed to violent by individuals who overstep said with horrid. if you want to look at state authorized violence, you have to go to the politics of it. you have to look at violence as a political and not coming. now if i go to south to done, i want to take it slightly longer view. and the longer you takes us back to sort of the middle of the 1900 century. until the middle of the 1900 century, the british imperial project was what we call the civilizing mission. and you come into the colony, your wife, the state clean, and you civilize them. through the introduction of western law and through western education, you created minority which would look like you talked like not look like you, but top like you think like you and which would be an intermediate in the colonial . well, that project failed completely with 1857, appraising in india. when the majority excluded rebuilt, the indian army created by the br

you heard 65 people have been killed in that state alone. 79 in total across half a dozen states. a swath of devastation unprecedented in the worst december for tornadoes in history, ever. we'll be analyzing that. we're supposed to get an update from governor beshear that will be addressing reporters later this hour as well as fema giving up an update where things stand and the emergency aid that the president has promised for all, half dozen states, affected by this. they include kentucky, arkansas, tennessee, illinois, missouri. we heard of damage in ohio and mississippi and indiana as well. let's go right now to governor beshear of kentucky with the very latest. >> wrecked, destroyed. so many of our communities. the newest estimates of deaths from coming from emergency management that may differ from the coroner, there's one of these that we're checking on, we're now up to 74 kentuckians that we have lost. one additional one in graves. four additional in hopkins, this is one we're checking right now. i have 14. emergency management came back with 17. 14 i hope. three in warren

the state department annual human rights reports will be expanded to include state sponsored us lap -- islam phobic violence and impunity. as a nation that prides itself on the defense of human rights and dignity we must be leaders both on the global stage and at home by example. to combat violence against muslims. again, islamaphobia in any place is offensive, dangerous and must be condemned. islamaphobia in our own congressional community, specifically the repeated ongoing targeted islam phobic actions against another member as we witnessed this past year is appalling and totally unacceptable. that language and behavior are far beneath the dignity of integrity, dignity and decency with which the constitution and our constituents require that we act in this house. these actions must be called out and not tolerated. mr. speaker, every day we're in session we begin with a prayer. because we believe, we believe in our own way. some don't believe but by and large most people here believe. we do so with reverence for our own real jus beliefs, with respect for the briefs of others. if we d

be in a state's militia. but they lose the federal pay. and in that respect in my view the governor of oklahoma is doing a great disservice to his guard members if he goes down this road. >> and he does appear to be committed to going down the road. but again, it will be -- he will be writing the check and they will be cashing it in terms of their careers and in terms of impact on their livelihoods. former secretary of homeland security during the obama administration, pentagon general counsel jay johnson. it's nice nice to see you come back soon. >> thank you. >> much more to come tonight. stay with us. . >> much more to come tonight stay with us i needed him to be here. your heart isn't just yours. protect it with bayer aspirin. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. >> man: what's my safelite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite

by state. i don't think that's the right way to handle this patchwork of state laws. i think the best way to avoid back alley abortions and bussing women around the country is the codify roe v. wade, put that into federal law to make sure women have a choice, to be a mom, to put a child up for adoption, or to terminate a pregnancy, that i am with 75% of americans who believe this should be a choice between a woman and her doctor. >> senator klobuchar from minnesota, thanks for being with us today. >> thank you. >> is this the way our democracy ends with a giant shrug? our nation is in danger, is anybody listening? that's next. it's the most joyous time of the year. especially at t-mobile! let's go to dianne. i got the awesome new iphone 13 pro and airpods, and t-mobile is paying for them both! and this is for new and existing customers. upgrade to the iphone 13 pro and airpods both on us. only at t-mobile. ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'n

revus from republican state legislatures in arizona, wisconsin, other states. they are saying the election results should be decertified which means there shouldn't have been biden electors from there. there should have been trump eelectoralors. trump secretly won the election and should be restored to power. that is what they tried after the election and is still what trump is trying. bart gellman was right about what trump was going to do in 2020 as far fetched as it seemed at the time. now today he has written his follow up also in "the atlantic" the new cover story out today called "january 6 was practice." here's how it starts. technically, the next attempt to overthrow a national election may not qualify as a coup. it will rely on sub version more than violence although each will have its place. if the plot succeeds, the ballots cast by american voters will not decide the presidency in 2024. thousands of votes will be thrown away or millions to produce the required effect. winner will be declared the loser. the loser will be certified president-elect. the

to come to their state. that is an interesting part of their refugee resettlement history. refugees have a history of rebuilding communities that have experienced population decline. many states are putting their hands up and asking to receive afghan refugees because they know it will help them rebuild their communities and rebuild their economies. host: this is nazanin ash joining us for this discussion, chief executive officer from welcome.us. rick is next. caller: i just want to make a couple of comments. a lot of american soldiers died for those people over there. and they are supposed to come here. some of them will come to defend the country but they cannot defend their own country. none of these men should be allowed to get on any plane and they cannot even defend their own country. you had this cloud and -- clown in the white house. host: we will leave it to your first point. as far as prioritizing women and children versus men, our families -- are families generally kept together? guest: i think as

the united states violates its assurances. it's diplomatic agreements, whether it's iran, nuclear deal, whether it's, you know, a prison transfer assurances for a saundra window that they're going to violate the mark my words. this is going to happen. mendoza certain of this, and i interviewed him for this and he's seen dozens of people from spain, from columbia, from mexico, from all over the world who've been given assurances. and once they get to the u. s, it's violated these documents that i published. they weren't seen by the court yet . they weren't submitted in court. and i'm convinced that if the judge had seen them, if the judge's study of these documents, they could not let this extra and go ahead because they've accepted that a sondra suicidal. they've accepted the judge, apply the test correctly, that he would be even more suicidal. he would, he would drive an expedition to deal with, drive him to take us except that all this. so the only reason they allow the appeal to go ahead today was that the judge should have

the wealthy women in those states will easily be able to travel to other states that provide abortion services. and of course the big democratic states will preserve abortion rights as they have them now. and so a majority of the population, actually, will be living under democratic state governments that preserve all of roe and more. and so it's really at this point the protection that was being debated really in the supreme court was really just a protection of women who don't have the means to create their own choices in these situations. >> that's right. and that's really why the choice framework, though really important, is more illusory than real. that's because for very poor women, it's very difficult. let's be clear, in mississippi there is only one abortion clinic that remains in that state. it's a deadly proposition to carry a pregnancy to term in that state. and even more generally, a person is 14 times more likely to die by carrying a pregnancy to term than by terminating it. so we have to look clearly at what these states are doing. given the data that we already know, th

senate, to the wisconsin secretary of state, to the archivist of the united states . and chief justice of the western district of wisconsin. these fraudulent electors actedo without any legal mandate whatsoever and with the y intention that the false er documents they produced would be received as valid documentation for the purpose of inducing the u.s. congress to credit the wrong candidates with having earned wisconsin's ten electoral votes. the fraudulent electors met in a concerted effort to ensure they would be mistaken as a result o their deliberate forgery and fraud for wisconsin's legitimate presidential electors chosen by the mechanism prescribed under the u.s. constitution and wisconsin law.is through these actions, the fraudulent elevgts electors sought to undermine the november 2020 presidential election and achieve through fraud a result that their chosen candidates had been unable to secure through a free and fair election or through a bevy of meritless post-election lawsuits challenging the vote. t o we write to draw your attention to the actions and re

and counties in many states. it's counties that are doing administration. of course, there's a whole technology backbone to a lot of these processes, but as you know, many rely heavily on paper. and it's going to take time for it to roll out. so, i guess one of my questions is, how will you monitor at the front end and get yourself ready for-- for if things aren't going as well as maybe we all hoped they will. >> so, i see a few things, i think at the outset, so there are silver linings as a result of the pandemic. one of the silver linings is cms, the federal government working side by side in partnership with states in a way that really hasn't been seen before and experienced this in my role with the state and now from the cms standpoint and i think it's case in point on this. because fundamentally, one can debate a range of the policies. there's a giant apparatus, and 84 million have to go through eligibility mode and that's never happened in medicaid with the amount of time that passed between this much of vo

if i was to honor him, put him in state like he's going to lie in state today, those are some of the things i would think are right for doing it. in this day of so much partisanship, it is important that he always tried to work across the party lines and he was successful in doing it. and that's what we need today. host: senator chuck grassley, thank you, sir, for >> on friday former senate majority leader bob dole will be honored with a memorial service at washington national cathedral. live coverage begins at 11 a.m. eastern on c-span, online at c-span.org, or watch our video at c-span now. -- app c-span now. >> c-span's washington journal, every day we take your calls live on the news of the day and discussed policy issues that impact you. coming up friday, with the one-year anniversary of the january 6 attack approaching, we discussed bidens first year in office, and then we get the perspective on the biden administration's virtual summit for democracy in held this week. watch washington journal live at seven eastern friday morning on sudan -- c-span, join the discussion with you