n. glenn has a very funny reading of history and the relations with russia where europe and the u. s. are the only culprits were a shiny, happy future with the kremlin would be in the, in the cards. if we only disarm to and dissolve the nato, i think history tells, tells a very different different story. of course we need to take the crime than on threat perceptions seriously. but this is very funny. strange and peculiar reading of history that, that you offered glen doesn't pass muster, or let's get glens response to that. yes, no, i didn't say that nato has to be disbanded. i think that nato was quite effective when it did very little that he said throughout the cold war it was effectively a power promoting the status quo that is, plus a defensive alliance. seeking to deter the soviet union after the cold war, nato has become prohibitionist power. that is, it's now expanding its invading other countries without un mandates. so under this, the under this new nato, the revision is natal. i think it's very much the same blessing and it's the main source of tensions and conflict in e