okay, let's go back to jeremy in tulsa. i think we would all agree on this program is that there's a, there's a, a lack of information about what's actually going on in, in, in ukraine because there's something that all of us take for granted. but it's hardly ever mentioned that there is a blueprint up plan out there to end the internal conflict in ukraine, and it's called the minsk accords. okay. and it's really simple. we could put it on one page. okay. um, but there's scant reference to it. okay. the ukrainian government, what i call official care have signed up on it, but they've never fulfilled it. okay. and then if you read wet wester, news accounts of what's going on a ukraine, you might, if you get lucky, they'll make reference to the men sc agreements. but this is something the europeans have sign on to russia is a guarantor of it, but no one wants to go into the minutia of it. but that's the way out of this, of this a situation in type of ukraine. jeremy, go ahead react. oh, as you suggest yeah, the us doesn't rea

he is a professor of political science at the university of rhode island in tulsa. we have jeremy, whose motto he is managing, editor of colbert action magazine and in london we crossed to earns read. he is a political analyst, as well as a guest expert at the russia international affairs council. right gentlemen, cross south rules and effect, that means can jump in any time you want. now is appreciate nichol. i let me, let me go to you. i mean, there's so much confusion in the air here for me. um, we had a summit of sorts with zalinski and biden over the summer, and the read out was kind of a cool read out, you know? yeah, you make it into nato, but you know, there's no rush here. and then, you know, last week we have, or the last a few new cycles. we have the secretary defense. he goes to georgia, he goes to ukraine. he goes to brussels and you know, we're right on board for membership. okay, what, what is going on here? what is the policy about and ukraine? is it just to keep it simmering? or is there different factions buying for different outcomes? how do you r

so my guess in kingston, tulsa, and in london. and thanks to our viewers for watching us here to see you next time, remember them in oh, oh, in russia this close of car was discontinued more than 20 years ago. even though say more than what i'm saying, it was a sort of can you sell it to proposal this dealing book, which is important doctors it took 5 years to close the gap on the world car industry from the drawing board to the 1st finished model scripture so we'll go over how to find excellent roles. can you deal with my food ocean international food for lucy? shift almost lucas crockett. the quizlet live with nurse. oh. wow. you know things are, of course, playing out as we've been protecting they would. we've got the very central banks putting on their kabuki costumes and getting ready to go out on stage and perform their ritualistic nod to the need to raise rates, followed by their ritual. was stake denial that they are able to raise rates, followed by massive quantitative easing. money printing and hyperinflation. once again

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i know other historians here in tulsa are also looking. thank you. host: glenna, thank you very much. we should point out that outlaw woman is mostly about roxanne dunbar-ortiz's and her journey in effect i want to read a quote from the book. quote betty for dan said that scruffy feminists like me were giving the movement a bad name. i told betty that i thought she feared losing her celebrity leadership position to women who were committed to elective action with no leaders and that she wanted no more than to put a few women into political office and as heads of corporation. she called me an anarchist. when did that conversation take place? >> it was in a green room before we went on a tv show together. so, yeah, she was a piece of work. i actually respect her more now that i am more mature myself in light of what she did than we did then as younger women were very radical, not just betty, but others were purposefully liberal, you know liberals, but i did to repeat that she actually lived it to read it and was not happy with that, but she was a good

the governor of oklahoma, kevin stitt, said it is possible to teach about things like the tulsa race massacre without making white students, for example, feel shame or guilt about that event, which they were not present for and were not involved in. currently, in oklahoma, there is a lawsuit that has been filed, seeking to overturn this new law in the state on the grounds that it infringes on the first amendment rights of teachers, as well as students, to talk about these issues in a sort of free and constructive way. i think that gets into a different set of legal issues about students and teachers, especially with free speech rights, but, you know, that is one case to watch closely in this debate. i suspect it will not be the last, as well. host: catherine in minnesota. good morning. caller: good morning. when we talk about race theory, i think my own fear -- when i think about historically the way i was taught in a classroom in minnesota, they left out so much information. they left out anything that did not reflect positively on white people. so, we were not teaching much about r

we met halfway between tulsa and langston. i looked at the cameras and i was familiar with jones on two counts. he had a church, part of the black town stores -- tours. people from all of the country would come to the store. we would meet in reverend jone'' church. i never forgot. secondly, about 10 years before tourism here in oklahoma. a friend of mine had worked there and shared with me that someone had mailed them a minute long reverend jones clip. i was so intrigued by that. i was never able to put that out of my mind. i had a one upon the seller because i was familiar with it. as a result, we print negotiated -- wheat negotiated a price. after that film had been upended attic for seven years, it was nitrate film. i could have been buying something that was virtually useless. i took the risk. it was a leap of faith. as a result, i got it transferred. it was sold in new york city to yell university. a picture speaks a thousand words in a moving picture speaks a million words. it'd have nowhere else. you might have had an e

we called it tulsa - we should fully hear the same as europe. i knew nothing about it and i should've. conservatives sometimes flinch from confronting with disappearing go under disagreeable american history because the disagreeable are presented by some progressives as definition and typical. and it requires a kind of mental equilibrium to confront these things and put them in context. and this is why were having so much of a fight it by the new york times of egregious 1619 project that americans will founding was not july 1776 it was when the first slaves arrived at and what made this reframing is new york times said in american history pretty approximate matter was that according to them if the american revolution was fought to preserve slavery but it was fought because of dinsmore and said that blacks speak slavery in front of the side of the british and the american revolution would be emancipated. while this is flat-out historically illiterate, think that was sent in november 1775, after the boston tea party and after the boston massacre a

. >> host: tulsa oklahoma, roxanne dunbar-ortiz is our guest. please go ahead. >> caller: it's an honor to speak with you. i'm unfamiliar with your work but i plan on reading as many as i can. i have a comment. earlier today allie bell j., i don't know if i can say what network but "msnbc," on the program he took a road trip to southri texas and a lot of peope whose families who have lived there for generations and they were so kind to say the border we can cross the border. the border crossed us and they explained there is only the human race and the race hispanic or indigenous as cultural and ethnicity and i thought you might have enjoyed hearing what it is and my other question is "outlaw woman." i'm trying to find my cherokee ancestor and greetings from indian territory here in oklahoma. i'm curious if in your research if you knew anything about bell started. i'm wondering if my ancestors hung out with them. just curious if you had run across those names. i know othercr researchers and historians here in tulsa are also looking. >> host: than

921 really genocide in tulsa, oklahoma, even though my parents were from that area. and so we kind of look at that and there's sort of historical realization and we have to come in that i'm just wondering how can we, with people who felt they weren't there, that wasn't them? why are we talking about something about the legacy and founding this country? how can we actually get models where there is what west talked about, understanding appreciation with this matter. but yet people can still work together and move forward. i know kathleen, do you have insights on that? absolutely. i think you know, the united states is not unique in its history of racial inequality and racial violence. many nations who struggled with the problem that the united states is quite unique and how little we have done by way of public conversation and truth and reconciliation with that history. we've had no national peers the process. we've had very little in the way of museum building in memorial ization. and one thing that folk might want to remember is that when we think about, you know, t

which i found absolutely remarkable and there have been many other so-called race riots in america, in tulsa, chicago and elsewhere pretty but these were generally spontaneous outbursts of white rage and usually involving some sort of t between a black man and a white woman but wilmington was unique, the violence was premeditated and the coup was plan for months and it was a carefully orchestrated racial revolution carried out by armed vigilantes and america's only permit violent overthrow by elected government anything that this major event would be described in north carolina history books, in fact it was barely mentioned. then it was portrayed as a white response in a good government effort to replace corrupt negro rule. in closing let me just review from descriptions of the coup that appears to north carolina high school textbooks pretty in a help keep the lie alive and this is from state sanctioned public textbooks for high school students, here's a quote from a public school in 1933, there were many negro some of whom reportedly fitted for the task and this naturally rows stir feelings

now, there have been other so-called race riots in america in tulsa, chicago, atlanta, elsewhere generally and racial revolution carried out by armed vigilantes and it was america's only permanent violent overthrow of an elected government. now you this major event would be described in north carolina history books and when it was mentioned it was portrayed heroic white response to black race riot and good government effort to replace corrupt negro rule. and closing, let me just read you some descriptions of the coup that appeared in north carolina public high school textbooks that help people the lie alive. again, this is from state sanctioned public textbooks for high school students. there's a quote from a public school textbook 1933, quote, there were many negro office holders some of whom were poorly fitted for their tasks. this naturally aroused ill feelings between the races, end quote. passage from 1940, massive negroes became poor citizens to keep their vote allowed them to do very much as they pleased. worst crimes were not punished. the why people of the south are no longer safe

. >> i had just learned about the tulsa riots. there washe unpleasantness in tulsa. conservatives sometimes flinch from disagreeable aspects to american history because the disagreeable facet are presented by progressives as definitional and typical. it requires a mental equilibrium to confront these things and to put them into context. this is why we are having so much of a fight about "the new york times" egregious 1619 project. america's real founding was not july 1776 it was when the first arrived. what made this reframing is american history so pernicious is the? of the matter was -- the crux of the matter was it was bought because lord dunsmore had said who escaped in the american revolution will for being --this is historically illiterate. i think he said that in november after lexington and concord after the boston massacre and after george washington was made head of the revolutionary army so it doesn't square. it's so bad it's obviously meretricious. >> you think there's a reason that people want to start the conversation because there's in american history

there have been many other so-called race riots in america, tulsa, chicago, atlanta and elsewhere. these were spontaneous outbursts of white rage, usually involving some sort of contact between a black man and a white woman. wilmington was unique. the violence was premeditated. the coup was planned for months. it was a revolution carried out by armed vigilantes. it was america's only permanent violent overthrow of an elected government. you would think this would be described in north carolina history books. in fact, it was barely mentioned. when it was mentioned, it was portrayed as a heroic white response to a black race riot and a good government effort to replace corrupt negro rule. let me just read you some descriptions of the coup that appeared in north carolina public high school textbooks that helped keep the lie alive. this is from state sanctioned public textbooks for high school students. a quote from a public school textbook, 1903. there were many negro office holders, some of whom were poorly fitted for their tasks. this naturally aroused ill feelings between the races

so went to tulsa for the first time only since i moved to california. i finally visited it tells that it seemed like a much more beautiful city commit more eastern kind of city. a lot of entrepreneurs from the east is a very different place and where i grew up is more southern baptist hand like the south even though is the planes. so didn't know anything that no knowledge from the time of only what i read. i have several osage friends. and if all of the writings there of the constitution i followed it very closely because i've osage friend who was involved in writing it. that's very recent, sorry cannot help you with any that. >> indian reservation in south dakota, you are on with roxanne dunbar-ortiz. >> good morning roxanne dunbar-ortiz, i just wanted to thank you for e-books. yesterday, on the base of the missouri river, overlooking it is 852-foot steel image of a woman, and we celebrated by dedicating it to remind our women that they are also meant in the backbones of our nations. roxanne dunbar-ortiz this 52-foot mag to me is for all indian woman t

it was actually the tulsa program. that's what we callit when it happened in europe and we should have called it back here . i've heard vagaries on tulsa but nothing about it and i should have. conservatives sometimes flinch from confronting the disagreeable facets of american history because the disagreeable facets are presented by some progressives as definitional and typical. and it requires a kind of mental equilibrium to confront these things and put them in context. this is why we're having so much of a fight about the new york times egregious 1619 project. the fundamental assertion of which is that america's real founding was july was not july 1776, it was 1619 when the first slaves arrived and what made this reframing as american history is so pernicious is that the crux of the matter was according to them that the american revolution was fought to preserve slavery. it was fought because lord dunsmore said that blacks who escaped slavery and fought on the side of the british in the american revolution would be

adding a little bit of fuel on the tightening fire as well just to wrap it up, mark you're living on tulsa time. you are a buyer of bitcoin this morning on this weakness you love the black friday discount as you called it? >> i do. this is a black fridaydiscount buy it don't buy it all today buy some today, some next week, next month keep dollar cost averaging because the price doesn't matter the value is increasing, the price is going to be volatile because humans and machines are volatile you want to continue to increase your ownership of the most powerful computing network that the world has ever seen. ownership is edge here, brian. >> you know what, getting up and doing tv at 4:30, i call that edge mark you are edge. i'll let you get back to -- i won't say your if family hope they're sleeping appreciate you joining us. great call last year this day last year and bitcoin has tripled in price you made people a lot of money. we appreciate it >> have a great holiday. we'll talk to you soon. >> thank you will do. >>> mark talked about shopping, saw the tree behind him. despite the headlines

we talked about a similar event happening in tulsa there. now we're learning about this massacre that happened in 1898. the community finally coming together to honor josh halsey. you can see so many people came out to remember him, and listen to one of his relatives talking about why it's so important to honor him on this day ♪ they say that freedom is a constant struggle ♪ >> it's about healing, so it's very important to keep this story alive and keep it going. when people say that a successful coup did not happen in the u.s., this is the precedent right here. this is where it happened and they need to know the true story. >> and so for many generations, really, it was oral history, people who survived that massacre telling their kids, their grandkids and grade grandkids what happened because the media reports of that day were not accurate as to what actually happened so it was oral history that kept this story alive, but really it was the last few years that different groups came together to try to find his burial site and to honor hi

will: quick sports trivia, said the tulsa, you corrected yourself to say tulsa. somebody forgot to put in the mascot. can you guess the mascot for tulsa? not easy one. not untaught tiff. will: i'm pretty sure, not 100%, golden hurricane. pete: tulsa golden hurricane. sound the like a changed name t was something in the past they changed it. will: am i wrong? captain cain? captain cain? what is that. pete: somebody from tulsa email us. tulane is the green wave. will: double-check during the commercial break. pete: army beat air force overtime on a last minute fumble touchdown. they were going over the bowl line, he fumbled in the end zone. the guy recovers it. stopped air force. in the running for the commander-in-chief trophy. will: nice. why so quiet. rachel: you guys are boring me. up next despite her election victory for the history books "snl" is mocking retired marine winsome sears. >> this is a win for democrats nothing will get republicans to support gun control faster than this picture. rachel: hear more of the outrageous comments against virginia's gover

i think, for example, restoring the memory of the tulsa massacre as one simple example, but we really should face up to. i think the more we are attune to that awful history, the better. but to overplay that entirely is also dangerous for our society as a whole. so yes, there's always a kernel of truth. the question is how far are you taking it? how extreme are you getting? and how much else are you missing about the complexity of our society when you reduce it to these racial binary. >> you know, this program is a renewed version of "firing line." you never appeared on the original "firing line" with william f. buckley but your former editor michael kinsley was a frequent guest and a moderator on buckley's original program. take a look at this clip here of him introducing a 1993 debate on the resolution political correctness is a menace and a bore. >> let it be said that the university of pennsylvania was eager to host tonight's debate and any university that allows william f. buckley on its campus can't be all that politically correct. in terms of tonight's debate mr. buckley is alw

thousands were left in the dark when a strong storm hit areas around tulsa, oklahoma, overnight. the storms stretched into north texas with hail, strong winds and heavy rain. the system moving east is bringing storms from the gulf coast into the carolinas today. it's all part of a coast-to-coast storm system that will hit the midwest with heavy rain today. the northeast gets that rain tomorrow. checking today's high temperatures 50s in boston and seattle. mid-50s from denver to chicago, as well. 80s for the southwest. >>> coming up, the growing impact of the nationwide teacher shortage. >>> but first alec baldwin now being sued for that deadly movie set shooting. what the lawsuit is revealing about the conditions on that set. >>> and later, move over, tesla, from iraq, i could still hear the booms. makes it hard to be a good mom. - [announcer] as america's veterans face challenges, dav is there. - [naomi] i'm naomi mathis, air force veteran. - [announcer] dav helps veterans get the benefits they've earned. - [naomi] thanks to dav, i was able to begin to heal. - [announcer] with t

tribal headquarters and with the southern cheyenne in the area that i grew up i never even went to tulsa and didn't even know that it existed. it's very provincial in oklahoma by sections of the state. central, southeast, southwest northwest and northeast and people don't get much out of their counties from several counties away so i went to tulsa for the first time since i moved to california i finally visited it seems like a much more beautiful city settled by entrepreneurs so it is a very different place and where i grew up it is more southern and southern baptist to be more like the south so it gets out into the planes so i didn't know anything or have any knowledge only what i have read and i have several osage friends and when they were writing their constitution i follow closely because i haven't osage friend who was involved in writing it. but that is very recent so i cannot help you with any lower. host: from the pine ridge indian reservation you are on with roxanne dunbar ortiz. >> >>caller: good morning. i just wanted to thank you for your books. yesterday on the banks of the

the first ♪ >> reporter: like thousands of american public servants, choir teacher debbie baker in tulsa felt betrayed. >> it's just wrong. it's wrong on so many levels. >> reporter: the villain -- her own government as she tearfully told us in 2019. in 1999, baker borrowed $35,000 in student loans, but her loan balance has more than doubled despite years of payments due to fees, interest, penalties. a crisis for more than a half million public servants. military members, teachers, and nurses buried in student debt. >> we had a student loan industry who had no problems ripping off dedicated public servants. >> reporter: the d.o.e. failed to police and often predatory industry. anher sh- the vernme ten years of service the debts wiped clean. the program had a 98% rejection rate for applicants like debbie baker. >> you kind of feel like nobody cares. i'm a nobody, i'm a little person out here, and i'm just getting squashed by big monster. >> reporter: but now new relief. the d.o.e. pressured by the american federation of teachers agreed to overhaul its loan forgiveness program. it will cre

is fair game to teach about events that actually happened, whether it be slavery orjim crow or the tulsa race massacre or the discrimination against african—americans in the post—war era. that strikes me as fair game. that�*s historical instruction. it�*s fair game to point out that historical discrimination, like the exclusion of african—americans from homeownership and higher education, has consequences that remain with us in our own time. that, to me, is fair game so you can teach those events and you can teach the consequences of those events without shaming anyone. do you think there are instances where, and we used the phrase before and discussed it, progressives in your party the phrase before and discussed it, �*progressives�* in your party have gone too far? now, i�*m thinking of a separate issue, that of policing, and the response to some of the terrible systemic racism we�*ve seen in police forces across the country. it obviously produced the black lives matter movement but it also, in cities like minneapolis, led some democrats and progressives to call for t

this miss usa pageant will take place on november 29th and tulsa, oklahoma. >> a city chosen for its historical past. think that's going to be something really amazing for the title holder c. >> that piece of history and what happened to black wall look for to the young going on that journey as a wonderful nice there has a lot fix things that going what in the wall street. >> and there is one more surprise some of the foreign exchange so be the traditional things that you always see so you know, you have watch. of course, it in its right to you know, we have the top 5 finalists and all these different things at the top to 10 it's on the 5 change a little bit. so i think it should be a much, much more exciting to watch the last contestant to make the top 5 is instead of the traditional new york penthouse. the winner will move to los angeles. >> after her crowning moment he go. then advance to the international stage representing the united states at the miss universe pageant. december 12th and israel. news nation's felicia bolton. all right. well, still to come on the kron 4 morning n

. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> like thousands of american public servants, choir teacher debbie baker in tulsa felt betrayed. >> it's just wrong. wrong on so many levels within >> reporter: the villain, her own government as she tearfully told us in 2019. in 1999 baker borrowed $35,000 in student loans. but her loan balance has more than doubled, despite years of payments due to fees, interests, penalties. a crisis for more than a half million public servants, military members, teachers and nurses buried in student debt. >> we had a student loan industry who had no problems ripping off dedicated public servants. >> reporter: the d.o.e. failed to police an often predatory industry, another sham the government student loan forgiveness program for public service. ten years of service, and the debts wiped clean. the program had a 98% rejection rate for applicants like debbie baker. >> you kind of feel like nobody cares. i'm a nobody. i'm a little person out here. and i'm just getting squashed by a big monster. >> reporter: but now new relief. the d.o.e. pressured by the american federation of teachers agreed to

and we were extremely proud that the president of the united states went to tulsa, oklahoma, made the commitment that he was going to increase the spend with black firms from 5% to 15%. so often when programs are created to move the black business community, or black community forward, it is under the broad brush of minority programs for diversity and inclusion. we're not minorities. we're not many times small business owners. we have specific needs that are different from other communities, other business owners. and so what we are looking for is intentionality when programs are created to ensure is that the businesses and the communities that we're impacting the most have the first opportunity to be able to participate and succeed. we saw that 70% of black businesses did not get a loan or payroll protection plan from a majority bank. 39% of our businesses either found that they were turned away altogether, 76% of them found they got either half or far less of what they needed. it is important for us to make sure that when we are talking about a resurgence or reopening of black busin

not in tulsa, he represents germany's left party in hamburg. parliament say is blaming minsk for the crisis that isn't going to solve it. first, we have to say that in poland to cause this abusing and contradicting international law, there's no law conventions to protect refugees, sentences and the effect the route. you want to have a solution, you have to think about and you have to stop the aggression against the software and the to your people in the middle east and in north africa. and with that and give those people the possibility to have countries which stabilize step by step, those refugees crisis now to sanction bend on the incentive ruled of late that knock away. of course, it will be good to have negotiations in between the european union and bella was the book before the euro. pm union accepts the silver and the to your countries doesn't matter. it spells venezuela, they always counting the election results. this is not a way all we can establish international relations which are fruitful. so that has to be changed. as nigel zanan, bella russo migraines have been relocate

president abraham rising tehran, one sanctions to be lifted in return for limits on its nuclear program. tulsa jabari is covering the meetings from vienna. this is seen as a very beginning of what could be really the newly appointed team from iran and from the new government of every racy is headed by the reigning deputy foreign minister, alibaba murray. and his team of 38 men who are very well versed in the countries economy. they're all specialties at their specialists in iran's economy, from various different divisions of the government. they are here to find out what the other side will likely do in terms of moving forward. they're trying to gauge the mood from the europeans as well as the americans. i've spoken to sources into iran who are looking at the other parties involved to say that they are seeing some members in the negotiating teams from all sides. that are very well versed in terms of the security of the countries. meaning that they are expecting iran and other programs, not just a nuclear program will also be brought up. that is of course, something the renew of said they will

means that he is less vested in the company, so i don't think it diminishes him in any respect from tulsa. but i do think that as time goes on, if he starts showing more and more shared people will start getting the image that, oh, tesla is no longer the baby, maybe is focusing more towards space acts and he no longer becomes that influential . because let's face it if we're actually valuing tesla based on the actual market share based on sales of actual cars. it's not the, it's not worth that much. there's no way the stock should be this high. so a lot of this is because a cult momentum in the name of the law must that propels the name. i oftentimes good question, the idea that tesla is the most valuable company or car company worldwide. when they sell, you know, a fraction of the car, say toyota does band before we go mosque. recently tweeted that he would prefer to stay out of politics, but his lobbying efforts and tweet indicate that may not be the case. i have about 45 seconds left for you. yeah, i mean, you, i'm up is not interested in politics. he's actually pretty political, but h