is ahmaud arbery going after travis mcmichael or is it travis mcmichael introducing a gun in a fight with an unarmed man who had nothing in his possession. of course, we know there was no crime committed by ahmaud arbery on that particular day, which goes directly to the citizen's arrest claim. >> really quick, areva, before we wrap it up, i want to remind our viewers that these three defendants, regardless what happens in this trial, will face federal hate crime charges, and that trial is set to begin in february. do you see the verdict, whichever way it goes here, areva, having an impact on the federal case? >> i think it could have an impact because we're seeing online people asking why was there no more about race entered in this case. we know there were racial statements made by travis mcmichael. there's been all these issues around race that weren't directly introduced by the state in the state case. those issues will be on full display in this federal hate crime trial that's supposed to take place in february, and no matter what happens today, friday, or whenever the jury come

well, greg mcmichael had his gun. travis mcmichael told you that. he had his gun. diego had his gun. brooked a her gun. everybody had a gun. everybody in the case had a gun except ahmaud arbery. what almost happened? let's get real. it's a miracle diego perez and greg mcmichael didn't kill each other inside that house pulling guns out. that was it. what did brooke tell you? no more. not doing this anymore. you determine the credibility of those witnesses. now, when you consider travis mcmichael and his testimony, here's some things you want to look at. the judge is going to tell you, these are the things you consider. the manner of testifying. evidence of bias for or against a party. does he have bias for or against greg mcmichael? it's his dad, okay? motive in testifying. yeah, he wants you to come back with a not guilty verdict. it's in his best interest. think about the probability or improbability of their testimony. i wondered why he was attacking that truck on holmes. what are you talking about? i have no idea. do you guys understand what he was getting at? i

travis mcmichael, count 1 malice murder. we the jury find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. >> whoo. >> she vowed to find justice for her son, and wanda cooper-jones kept her promise. >> as to gregory mcmichael, count 2 felony murder -- guilty. as to william r. bryan, count 3 felony murder -- guilty. >> all three men guilty of murder. ahmaud arbery's family has been waiting more than a year and eight months for this moment. >> let the word go forth all over the world that a jury of 11 whites and 1 black in the deep south stood up in the court room and said that black lives do matter. >> i men amen! >> let's keep fighting! let's keep doing and making this place a better place for all human beings. >> amen. >> i never thought this day would come. thank you for those who marched, those who prayed, most of all the ones who prayed. >> yes, lord. >> the verdict shows in this case of the death of ahmaud arbery that citizen's arrest and self-defense was not something that the jury bought. >> i was deeply disappointed. i really

go after travis mcmichael and so he shot him. he based it off of the potential he could come after him. and that did not fly with the jury, and this case of a citizens arrest, which is what they were trying to say that the three defendants were trying to make. that did not play well in this case. one of the points that the prosecutor was trying to make was that ahmaud arbery had baggy pants on. he was not carrying keys, he was not carrying a phone, he was not carrying a wallet. the idea that he could potentially be -- have a gun on him or potentially try to attack the defendants in this case, it was far-fetched. that was also shown in the video. he did not have anything on him. taylor: katia porzecanski, appreciate your time as we are getting those guilty verdicts on that mortar charge. -- on that murder charge. we are going to have more next. this is bloomberg. ♪ taylor: this is bloomberg markets. i'm taylor riggs. want to turn back to tact. let's bring in tim draper. tim, love chatting with you about bitcoin. talk to us about

well, greg mcmichael had his gun, travis mcmichael told you that. he had his gun, brooke had her gun. everybody had a gun. everybody in this case had a gun except ahmaud arbery. so what almost happened? come on, let's get real. it's a miracle diego perez and greg mcmichael didn't kill each other inside that house, pulling guns out. and that was it. what did brooke tell you? no more. i'm not doing this anymore. you determine the credibility of those witnesses. now, when you consider travis mcmichael and his testimony, there are some things you want to look at. the judge will tell you, these are things you consider. the manner of testifying. evidence of bias for or against a party. does he have bias for or against greg mcmichael? it's his dad, okay? motive in testifying? yeah, he wants you to come back with a not guilty verdict. it's in his best interests. think about the probability or improbability of their testimony. i wondered why he was attacking that truck. on holmes, what are you talking about? i have no idea. do you understand what he was gett

mcmichael -- of what's travis mcmichael, but mr. brian is in his vehicle. again, even if he has a perfect view of his phone, you can't see a weapon. you can't see anybody's armed. all right. we are going to go forward again. at 1:15. now, watch. you see mr. brian's phone is focused to the right of the truck. why? because mr. brian doesn't know mr. al benzy is down on jones at 220 satilla with his phone and his gun. the mcmichaels know, bus he is giving him a hand signal, mr. arbery knows because he is running out of the house. but roddy brian doesn't know that. he is thinking that mr. arbery, like he has for the last minute or so that he's been out there, that mr. arbery is going to go around the truck like he has gone around the trucks all the whole time to go around the trucks to satilla. go forward again. at 1:16, travis's silhouette should come into view. that's greg mcmichael. we are past that. okay. greg mcmichael in the back of the truck. we know he has a gun. i think at this point he's on the cell again to, but from mr. rodd

do you think this travis mcmichael who took the stand was the same travis mcmichael from february 23rd? you think the they're the same person? or do you think this is trial preparation? what tone of voice do we have being used by the mcmichaels? >> hello. >> 911. what's the address of your emergency? >> i'm out here at satilla shores. there's a black male running down the street. >> where at satilla shores? >> i don't know what street we're on. stop right there! stop! >> sir, hello? >> ask yourself was that the tone of voice being used? well, yes, we know it was. he just said, stop, goddamn it, stop! to mr. arbery in that tone of voice. use of force continuum. presence. did not have no badge, no uniform, no authority. just some strange guys in a white pickup truck. strangers. verbal commands. they don't have any authority to use verbal commands. this is a fellow citizen. it's another human being. they're pulling up on him and they're commanding that he stop and talk to them. and then of course he skipped level three, level four, level five, and went right to deadly force. boom. someone

do you think this travis mcmichael who took the stand was the same travis mcmichael from february 23rd? you think they're the same person? or do you think this is trial preparation? what tone of voice do we have being used by the mcmichaels? >> hello! >> 911, what's the address of your emergency? >> uh, i'm out here. there's a black male running down the street -- >> where at scitila shores? >> i don't know what street we're on. >> stop! >> sir? hello? >> ask yourself, was that the tone of voice being used? well, yes, we know it was. he just said, stop, goddamit, stop, in that tone of voice. all right, use of force continuum. presence. did not have no badge, no uniform, no authority. just some strange guys in a white pickup truck. strangers. verbal commands. they don't have any authorities to use verbal commands. this is a fellow citizen. this is another human being. they're pulling up on him and they're commanding that he stop and talk to him. and then, of course, he skipped level three, level four, level five, went right to deadly force. boom. someone's dead. claims he didn't cut off

travis mcmichael shot ahmaud arbery three times. arbery's death wouldn't make national headlines until three months after he was killed. once that graphic cell phone video surfaced online. >> no justice, no peace! >> reporter: the killing viewed by many as a modern-day lynching. it took 74 days for charges to be brought against the three men. the mcmichaels and bryan maintaining they were trying to make a citizen's arrest, believing arbery was a thief. all pled not guilty. >> the defense had to argue that this was a citizen's arrest because except for a citizen's arrest, they would not be able to get to the idea of self-defense. because by all accounts, they provoked this interaction. >> reporter: since the trial started, more than a month ago, the prosecution and defense have painted starkly different narratives. >> and they made their decision to attack ahmaud arbery in their driveways. because he was a black man. running down the street. >> if this was a case about wanting to murder a black jogger, this if this was really case ab

we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. i'm going to ask that whoever just made an outburst be removed from the court, please. as this court has indicated, i asked there be no outbursts in the court. i expect as much from the gallery. please respect the court's desire for this as we move forward. if you feel like you need to make a comment or otherwise demonstrate with respect to the verdict, i do ask that you step out of the courtroom now. count two, felony murder, we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count three, felony murder, we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count four, felony murder, we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count five, felony murder, we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count six, aggravated assault, we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count seven, aggravated assault, we the jury find the defendant guilty. count eight, false imprisonment, we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. co

travis mcmichael's grandparents, travis mcmichael wouldn't have been there. likewise, i would say but for roddie bryan's birth, there's no way that this crime could have taken place under the state's reasoning. you know, the same thing could be said, but for larry english installing surveillance cameras, the mcmichaels would never have known this was the fellow running by them. but for matt albanzi pulling out his chipper that day and working in the front yard he never would have saw mr. arbery. but for the actions of robert rash and diego perez, this incident might not have happened. but for mr. albanzi calling the normal police number instead of 911, the police might have responded faster and things might have been different. but for mr. albanzi cutting off the sitilla drive exit, mr. arbery might have escaped. but for a hundred different things, all of which had to come together in the exact sequence for this tragedy to take place, it could not have happened. so simply saying that but for mr. bryan being there that day, that's not the standard. and the sta

travis mcmichael, 60 seconds after mr. arbery has run past 230 satilla drive he makes his driveway decision. doesn't tell his dad to calm down, doesn't tell his dad that no, he's not getting his shotgun and running after somebody. doesn't tell his dad this is a really bad idea, we shouldn't do this. no. what does he do? his white f-150 pickup truck backs out of the driveway and heads in the direction that mr. arbery was running. this happens after he gets his shotgun and getting into his pickup truck. travis mcmichael testified that he went to the end of the driveway and he saw mr. albenze point one time down the street. there was no verbal communication by mr. albenze with the mcmichaels. that was a lie. i want to focus your attention up here, ladies and gentlemen. what we have here is 2/13/25. we have mr. albenze, right? here's the black car. remember, the black car goes by and mr. arbery runs the other way, down this way, right? so let's go ahead and play it. there goes the black car. mr. albenze is there. there goes ah

i can't see travis mcmichael in this picture. really, honestly, i can't see greg mcmichael in this picture. and i certainly can't see any guns. now what's our post on this one? this is at 1:15 into a minute and 43-second video. and mr. bryan at this point has no reason to know that the individuals in that truck have g guns. okay. let's -- all right. you can still, at this point, i think you can see that there's a shadow. a silhouette of what travis mcmichael. but from mr. bryan is, in his vehicle, again, even if he has a perfect view of his phone, you can't see a weapon. you can't see anybody's armed. we're going to go forward again. at 1:15. now watch. you see mr. bryan's phone is focused on the right of the truck. why? because roddie bryan doesn't know matt albanzi is down on jones at 220 with his phone and his gun. the mcmichaels know because he's given them the hand signal. mr. arbery knows because he's running out of the house away from mr. albanzi. roddie bryan is thinking that mr. arbery, like he has for the last minute or

where is the empathy from travis mcmichael. travis mcmichael's point of view is i got up and got out of the car and i had a confrontation with this guy and about to say what are you doing here but he put his hand in his pocket and i got back in my car. okay. let's think about this, empathy. do ahmaud's actions afterwards look like he's getting in a confrontation when he walked in the house on february 11 jth ? he walked around a few minutes and was gone by that time. so, what do we got? does it look like he gets out of the car in front and it's no big deal to him? i don't know. i don't know what he's thinking i have no idea. you saw the video. what does it look like from the video? is he in there hiding or crouched down? remember, no one had ever told him to not be on that property. so, the thing is what you're saying to me, you're going, but, linda, the defense got up here and said he's a burglar. he's a burglar, and he committed all of these burglaries. why are they saying that? well, because they want the burglaries to be th

so i shot. >> reporter: travis mcmichael, along with his father, gregory mcmichael, and neighbor william bryan, are standing trial together, charged with nine counts each including murder and aggravated assault. it was travis mcmichael filmed in this cell phone video shooting and killing arbery after what mcmichael, his father, and bryan claimed was a citizen's arrest under then georgia law. >> shut it down! >> reporter: arbery's death shook the nation. his name becoming a rallying cry for racial justice. >> he never was a threat to anybody. and he should not have been killed. >> all you had to do is stay in your house or get on the cell phone and call 911 and let the police do their job. but you and the lynch mob went and chased this unarmed young black man and tried to create a life-or-death situation so you can justify killing him. it is offensive, and it's an insult on our intelligence. >> reporter: but on this day in court, the younger mcmichael insisting he's not guilty of racism or murder, giving his version of events on that fateful day. >> trying to de-escalate, but i'm trying t

the prosecutors aren't done with travis mcmichael yet. they continue their cross examination in the morning. tomorrow we'll also get an important ruling from the judge. he'll decide whether jurors are allowed to hear that travis mcmichael is accused of using a racial slur to refer to the black victim dead in the street on the day of the killing. david? >> steve osunsami leading us off tonight. steve, thank you. >>> and in the trial of kyle rittenhouse in wisconsin, defense attorneys tonight calling for a mistrial over that drone video. tonight here, their issue explained and all of this playing out as the jury now deliberating asked to see that video again. they were brought into the courtroom, no cameras, and terry moran from kenosha again tonight. >> reporter: for a second long day, kyle rittenhouse waited while jurors in his trial deliberated his fate. and it's clear those jurors -- seven women, five men, including one person of color -- are sifting the evidence, especially those videos taken of the shootings. the jurors requesting mor

we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. can i ask that whoever just made that outburst the remove from the court please. as this court has indicated, i asked that there be no outbursts and the court and i expect as much from the gallery. please respect the court's desire for this, as we move forward. if you feel like you need to make a comment or otherwise demonstrate with respect to the verdict, i do ask that you step out of the courtroom now. count two. felony murder. we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count three, felony murder. we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count four, felony murder. we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count five. felony murder. we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count six. aggravated assault. we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count seven, aggravated assault. we, the jury, find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. count eight, false imprisonment. we, the jury, find the defendant trav

the state will have to be asking you to find that greg mcmichael advised or encouraged travis mcmichael, his son, to take the life of ahmaud arbery because that's what he wanted to do. for no reason other than to see that young man die and to see him die at hands of his own son, and to do it, right there in front of his eyes because the guy keeps breaking down, breaking into that house down the street. that's the level of criminal intent, the level of depravity, heartlessness, sickness that you would need to find beyond a reasonable doubt to find greg mcmichael guilty of malice murder. that's why i suggest that you begin with count one and quickly dispatch of it with a not guilty verdict, and then move down to the remaining counts, counts two through nine because it comes down to this. if greg mcmichael was authorized by law to attempt to execute a citizen's arrest, to try to detain aari for the police to come and do their job, to try to keep peace and safety within that neighborhood, then they were within the law to hold him there for the police. how else does one hold an individual wh

>> i think travis mcmichael's testimony went in mostly unchallenged. we heard the prosecutor cross-examine him but not a focused examination. she let him repeat his narrative about what he thought. she didn't drill down to his lack of training. he came ac ross as a law enforszment officer. i'm concerned the jury may buy into that. we heard testimony from people in that neighborhood trying to corroborate mcmichael's testimony there was a lot of crime going on. leaving out the evidence of racial prejudice i think that was a mistake from the prosecution side. maybe they thought this is an almost all white jury t could backfire on us but i don't think that's correct. they should have taken the evidence and let the jury consider it. that's evidence of motive. right now the prosecution has mistakes. >> interesting to hear both arguments. stay with us. we'll continue to watch that courtroom and bring you the closing arguments when they begin. >>> still to come here a manhunt under way for a man whose gun discharged in an extremely busy airport security line.

kristen: travis mcmichael guilty. gregory mcmichael was not guilty of malice murder, but guilty on all other charges. the other men is not guilty of malice murder and one felony murder charges, but guilty on three other charges, along with assault, and the death of ahmaud arbery in georgia. >> many have watched this trial as a measure of where the nation stands on social justice. our anchor has a from today's vertex. reporter: the guilty verdict in the murder of ahmaud arbery has led many to breathe a big sigh of relief. >> i was completely elated once the verdict came in. reporter: the cofounder of a project and a civil-rights rights attorney have watched the trial closely, both hoping this would be the outcome, while knowing the black community has felt

it was travis mcmichael who fired from his shotgun. rejoined on the phone now with more details on the case. steve, what do you make of the defense of the mounting so far? it seems like his amount in the coast guard. >> it seems like they are trying to paint travis mcmichael in a very different way than he has been portrayed so far. you're hearing the few terms over and over again. de-escalate and training. you get the picture that he is a high level police detective from the technical terms used. in fact, he is a coast guard veteran and he is a machinery technician. there really going over and over the levels of the use of force f is he were a member of law enforcement. keep in mind, it he was not. he was three white men in 2020 chased down ahmed arbery in three vehicles and shot and killed him. the talk now is of de-escalation and training, but it does not square up with the picture from february 2020. >> john: sandra? we seem to have lost sandra. steve, are you still with us? >> yes, sir. >> john: he was a boarding officer which mea

travis mcmichael. i think that's a heavy burden for the defense. that's the argument they have. we're going to see the prosecution again showing that there's no evidence of justification for a citizens arrest and it was travis mcmichael that used the shotgun in an intimidating way and travis and greg that chased ahmaud arbery down, trapped him like a rat and shot him without justification. >> areva martin, we have to leave the conversation there. always appreciate your expertise. >>> secretary of state blinken is sounding the alarm about russian military activity along the ukrainian border. why he's worried it could lead to violence such as that what we saw in 2014. >>> growing unrest in austria. another lockdown is looming. we are live as the country tries to curb a sharp rise in covid cases. if you just hold it like this. yeah. ♪ i love finding out things that other people don't want me to know. mm-hmm. [beep] i just wanted to say... ♪ find yourself in these situations and see who you are. and th

the triggerman, travis mcmichael; his father, gregory mcmichael; and their neighbor, william "roddie" bryan, claim that they suspected arbery of burglaries in their neighborhood and were attempting to make a citizen's arrest. but prosecutors argued, the men had no evidence of arbery committing any crimes, and no right to pursue him. the killing prompted georgia officials to repeal the state's citizen's arrest law, the case garnered national attention, and drew civil rights leaders to brunswick, georgia. today, president biden said, in part, "the verdict ensures that those who committed this horrible crime will be punished." cbs' omar villafranca leads off our coverage at the courthouse. good evening, omar. >> reporter: good evening. when we first talked to ahmaud arbery's mother, wanda cooper-jones, 17 months ago, there was not a lot of attention on this case. but she was pushing investigators to dig deeper. she wanted the men arrested, tried, and convicted. today, a year and a half later, because of her pressure, her prayers were answered. >> count one, malice murder, we the jury fin

the mother of travis mcmichael, who fired the fatal shots. and the mother of ahmaud arbery, who never stopped pushing authorities to find justice for her son. arbery's father let out such a scream for joy, the judge had him removed from the courtroom. >> guilty. >> oh! >> reporter: they were feeling that same joy outside the courthouse. people told us it feels a little safer tonight to be black in georgia. >> i was jumping up and down, like, i was -- i'm happy, i'm happy. finally, we got justice. >> reporter: travis mcmichael, seen here leaving court in shackles, was convicted of all nine charges against him, including malice murder and aggravated assault. he's seen here in this disturbing cell phone video shooting ahmaud arbery dead. his father gregory, a former police officer was convicted of felony murder and all but one of his charges. he's seen here getting out of the back of the pickup truck that they used to chase their victim down. even the neighbor, who they met just that day, who joined in the chase and recorded the cell phone video

mcmichael, guguilty. >> reporter: the jury deliberated more than 11 hours before convicting travis mcmichael on all counts including malice murder. his father, greg, and their neighbor convicted on felony murder in the killing of ahmaud arbery. inside the courtroom, arbery's mother appeared in silent prayer. outside she thanked the family's supporters. >> i never thought this day would come, but god is good. >> reporter: the killing in february of last year, the killing garnered national attention and prompted georgia officials to repeal the state's citizen's arrest law. the defense had claimed the defendants were trying to make a citizen's arrest believing arbery had committed a crime. but there was no evidence to support that. the prosecutor argued their actions were based on assumptions. >> the verdict today was a verdict based on the facts. >> yes. >> based on the evidence. >> yes. >> that was our goal was to bring that to that jury so they could do the right thing. >> reporter: this is the scene outside the glynn county courthouse shortly after the verdict was read. demonstrators who ha

the prosecution put pressure on travis mcmichael's self-defense claim. how do you think a jury is taking in all of this, especially the idea the prosecution raised of a man running away and then all of the sudden he's a threat? >> you know, there is a movie that matthew mcconaughey is in, and he at the end of the day during his closing argument he asks the jurors to close their eyes and say -- imagine if -- the victim in this case was an african american girl. imagine that the victim was white. i want you to think about it. she may decide to do something like this. imagine if a truck full of young men perhaps african american men chased down a clean cut white man jogging in a neighborhood, if we'd be having these same discussions and whether or not the claim of self-defense would fit at all. these guys chased somebody down who they felt like didn't belong in the neighborhood, and they decided to act like cowboys. and i really think that she has methodically gone in and answered those questions about self-defense that should satisfy the jurors' mind. i've

prosecutors pressed travis mcmichael over inconsistencies in his account about what happened during last year's deadly encounter in brunswick, georgia. mcmichael claims he acted in self-defense. >> and the defense attorney who has tried and failed several times to ban black pastors from the courtroom, he tried again today, and again today, the judge denied his motion. that's what's happening inside the courthouse. outside, a large group of prominent faith leaders gathered to support the arbery family ahead of a planned march this afternoon. cnn's martin savidge is in brunswick. a lot happening on both sides of that courthouse door. what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah. you're right about that, victor. in fact, as you could hear him probably, see behind us, the demonstration that's taking place, the rally in support of ahmaud arbery's family and yes, a lot of black pastors have shown up in response to the words of defense attorney kevin goff. as to what happened today in testimony, so, day two, of course, travis mcmichael, the man who killed ahmaud arbery, that's without question, we saw

a bit of a surprise to have travis mcmichael take the stand. it seems like what the defense is doing is trying to paint another picture of travis mcmichael, he's got a haircut, he's sitting there in a suit, they're trying to go through his credentials as a member of the coast guard, a member of law enforcement, they're trying to establish that he has training, he has judgment. joining us is nbc's ron allen in georgia and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. no one was expecting mr. mcmichael to take the stand. >> this is a somewhat surprising decision to put him on the stand. katy, this is not an effort to win an acquittal. this is an effort to hang the jury. they're trying to appeal to one or two jurors to convince them that they should not convict because of this reasonable notion of law enforcement training and arrest under georgia's then in place, now removed from the books, statute that permitted citizens' arrests. this is i think something that could backfire. i expect the cross-examination of mr. mcmichael will be brutal. if it were me, i wo

i want to pave more of the crucial testimony during travis mcmichael's cross-examination. listen. >> he did not threaten me verbally, no. >> all right. didn't brandish any weapons? >> no, ma'am. >> didn't pull out any guns. >> no, ma'am. >> didn't pull out any knife? >> no, ma'am. >> never reached for anything, did he? >> no. >> he just ran? >> yes, he was just running. >> reporter: -- >> so you're a long time defense attorney, is that a perfect example of why most defense attorneys don't want to put their client on the stand? >> that is the perfect example of why most defense attorneys do not want their client taking the stand. in this instance, i would assume and imagine that travis mcmichael demanded that he take the stand thinking that he was going to do himself favors, that he was going to help himself in this instance, and clearly after two days of testimony, it is clear that travis mcmichael did not help himself and did not help his case. and those defense attorneys, sheffield and reuben will have an incredible up hill battle now on closing arguments on monday morni

we have done that with travis mcmichael. we have carried him to the surface to you, and now the choice is yours. will you do as he has done in the past to others? will you reach out your hand and extend it to travis mcmichael and pull him out of those waters? i think if you've heard anything that i've said, there's only one decision. he's not guilty on all charges. i thank you all for your attention. >> thank. >> ladies and gentlemen. we are at a point where we're going to break for lunch. we'll break for an hour. just a little bit under -- >> i'm john king in washington. you've been watching closing arguments in the ahmaud arbery case in georgia. travis mcmichael's attorney just giving the defense closing argument, one of three that will be made today. mr. sheffield spoke for about an hour and 20 minutes saying travis mcmichael in his view, trying to convince the jury, had every right to follow ahmaud arbery back in the neighborhood in february of 2020 and then making case that he had the right to open fire when he believed

we the jury find the defendant, travis mcmichael, guilty. i'm going to ask whoever just made an outburst be removed from the court, please. >> that was ahmaud arbery's father, marcus arbery sr. that you hear in the courtroom. travis mcmichael shot and killed ahmaud arbery found glgt of all charges including one count of malice murder and four counts of felony murder. his father, gregory mcmichael, who chased ahmaud arbery down, was found guilty of four counts of felony murder and other charges. the neighbor william bryan, who chased ahmaud arbery down and filmed his murder was found guilty of three counts of felony murder and other charges. the charges carry life in prison. sentencing has yet to be scheduled and all three of them still face federal hate crime charges too. they can be charged with a hate crime under state law because there was no hate crime on the statue in the books in georgia until ahmaud arbery's mother, wanda cooper jones, urged lawmakers to pass one last june. she was inside the courthouse every single moment of the tria

he gets in to a confrontation with travis mcmichael over the gun. travis mcmichael wants to holler self-defense. let me say this to you. if you are the aggressor or if you are found to be an aggressor, you cannot hide behind self-defense. in this case, everything, everything that i've heard tells me that the mcmichaels and roddy bryant were the aggressors. this man, neil, this is such a tragedy. he was just running down the street. didn't have any stolen goods in his hands, didn't have anything he was doing that they could show that he had committed any kind of a crime. this man was killed. >> neil: mcmichael was saying -- by the way, he's in a pickup truck. it's not a police vehicle. so the question is how was he to think that this guy would think any differently, arbery would think differently. somewhat an attempt to try locals in the area to do something to him. mcmichael said here, it freaked me out. he went home, called 911 when he was seeing this suspicious activity. apparently this guy going in and out of homes under construction. once i real

. >> we the jury find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. laura: drama in the courtroom as a jury finds all three defendants guilty of killing ahmaud arbery, a black man jogging in the u.s. state of georgia. more than 30 migrants are believed to have drowned trying to cross the bluish channel, the deadliest incident as people try to reach the u.k. from france. olaf shots will be germany's new chancellor, replacing angela merkel. he will lead a coalition focused on fighting climate change. the amazing story of the afghan girls football team as they settle into life in portugal after escaping taliban rule. welcome to "world news america" on pbs and around the globe. we begin in georgia where a jury has found three white men guilty in the killing of ahmaud arbery. he was a black man shot jogging in february of 2020. a leaked video of his shooting became a rallying point in the black lives matter protest. the defendants claimed they were acting in self-defense while the prosecution said the men were dangerous vigilantes. lamech will has the late

we know the three defendants are also inside of the courtroom, gregory mcmichael and his son travis mcmichael and william "roddie" bryan, the man who took the cell phone video. outside the courtroom today, we're expecting to have a prayer vigil of black pastors that felt a calling as a result of defense attorney kevin gauff who said we don't need any more black pastors here. there is going to be a vigil of sorts. we expect a number of high profile religious leaders and then there is going to be a march as well on this community. so key day inside and outside the court, jim and erica. >> will be. martin savidge, appreciate it, thank you. >>> also with us now, criminal defense attorney page. good to have you back with us this morning. we heard from martin about what we heard on the stand yesterday, travis mcmichael as we know said he was acting in self-defense. i want to play more of one of the exchanges. >> >> i didn't know why he was at. i knew that he was on me. i knew i was -- i was losing this. i knew that if i was getting tripped, if i would have tripped or if he would have got a lucky st

. >> we jury find travis mcmichael guilty. ♪ ros: at least 30 when 31 people drowned after about carrying migrants capsize after setting off from calais bound for the u.k.. for alleged smugglers have been arrested in connection with the incident. the u.n. international organization for migration says it is the biggest loss of life in the english channel since they began keeping records eight years ago. the boat was attempting to cross from frae to england when it sank off the french coast. french authoriti say the boat set off from dunkirk east of calais with 31 people on board -- 33 people on board, at least 33 people. here is the french interior minister speaking in calais. >> according to our information, 33 people sailed off the coast of calais. at the moment, there are 31 dead and two people were rescued. they are currently in hospital and still in danger. among these 31 dead, we know there were five women and a little girl. we will get more information later today. and obviously, the search and rescue operations are continuing. today, between the crossing of calais a the north part

the first question she gets travis mcmichael to admit he understood arbery was not armed. that's basic. the second, you came up with this after the fact rationale for what you did back then. those are two key points the prosecutor drove home. >> the defense spent a lot of time focusing on his coast guard training, that he learned how to use deadly force. the prosecution turned that around. . >> deadly force is only to be used as a last resort, correct? . >> that's correct. >> you were also trained never to point a firearm at someone unless you intended to use it; is that correct? . >> under certain situations -- yes. and under certain situations, it could be used as a deterrent. >> again, really effective cross-examination. travis mcmichael spent a ton of time on his direct examination talking about his coast guard training. she said you had training. you understood it was as good as using it. you were trained on de-escalation. if you take that and turn it back around on cross-examination, i think that's really important. that's going to go to this initial aggressor. . >>

>> nothing further. >> from travis mcmichael? >> no, your honor. >> no, your honor. >> no, your honor. >> you are ordered to remain in the custody of the sheriff and we are adjourned. thank you. announcer: after the guilty verdict was read, a press conference was held outside of the courthouse. the family and attorneys of ahmaud arbery delivered remarks. this runs about 25 minutes. >> [indiscernible] [crowd shouting] >> who shut it down? >> we shut it down. >> thank you all so much. fists up, fist

we the jury find the defendant, travis mcmichael, guilty. >> whoo! >> reporter: an emotional reaction from ahmaud arbery's father to the first of 23 guilty verdicts for the three men who murdered his son. arbery's mother, wanda cooper-jones, went in the back row as the verdict was read. >> to tell you the truth, i never saw this day back in 2020. i never thought this day would come. but god is good. >> reporter: the three men stood silent as their fates were read. they could spend the rest of their lives in prison. their attorneys say they're disappointed but respect the jury's decision. >> we understand that they feel they have gotten justice today. we respect that. we honor that. >> reporter: travis mcmichael, the man who pulled the trigger, was found guilty on all charges. his father, greg mcmichael, was found guilty on all but one count of malice murder. and neighbor william "roddie" bryan, who recorded the fatal encounter on a cell phone, was found guilty on six counts including felony murder. >> we would expect the judge to give the most severe

today it was the prosecution's turn to cross-examine travis mcmichael. the prosecutor took travis mcmichael step by step through the events leading up to, during, and after he shot arbery three times. remember, arbery was not armed. joining me are nbc reporter catie beck. we also have a policy adviser for joe biden on criminal justice. catie, this is the second day when travis mcmichael was on stand and he was cross-examined. bring us up to speed on what the prosecutor was able to get out of mcmichael. >> katy, this is the most explosive testimony we've seen in the trial so far. under cross-examination, prosecutors clearly wanted to hammer some points to the jury. and they did that through a series of yes and no questions put before travis mcmichael. they asked him preempted if he felt like ahmaud arbery was a threat, what proof he had that he was a threat, did he pose any threat with a weapon, was there a knife or gun. mcmichael several times confronted arbery with questions and arbery said nothing and kept running. they were getting to the jury to this

this is a very difficult day for travis mcmichael and greg mcmichael. these are two men who honestly believed that what they were doing was the right thing to do. however, a glen county jury has spoken. they have found them guilty. they will be sentenced. that is a very disappointing and sad verdict for myself and for bob and for our team, but we also recognize that this is a day of celebration for the arbery family. we cannot tear our eyes away from the way they feel about this. they feel they have gotten justice today. we respect that. we honor that. because we honor this jury trial system. >> do you all have any questions? >> do you plan to appeal? >> yes, absolutely. >> what was mr. mcmichael's reaction to the verdict? >> we haven't had a chance to talk to him yet. he was taken back to the glenn county jail. he was very stoic. i was right next to him feeling his body next to mine, and was ready for him to react, and i really didn't feel any reaction. he's a strong man. he understood the potential consequences in this, and whatever he was feeling, he

witness, including travis mcmichael himself who shot ahmaud arbery. he admitted during cross-examination that he never saw the man he killed with a weapon. >> didn't brandish any weapons? >> no, ma'am. >> didn't pull out any guns? >> no, ma'am. >> didn't pull out any knife? >> no, ma'am. >> never reached for anything, did he? >> no. >> he just ran. >> yes, he was just running. >> the lead prosecutor there going after him again on that self-defense claim. >> you also could have stepped around the back of the truck and followed him in the path that way, is that right? >> yes. but then he would have had open, unrestricted run around the truck and into my open door into my pickup truck. and could enter the truck. >> so you're telling this jury that a man who has spent five minutes running away from you, you're now thinking is somehow going to want to continue to engage with you, someone with a shotgun and your father, a man who's just said stop or i'll blow your [ bleep ] head off by trying to get in their truck? >> that's what it show, yes, ma'am. >> i m

yesterday when we saw travis mcmichael testify his tone was extremely casual and conversational. in fact, if you weren't paying attention to what was actually going on you would have no way of realizing he was on trial for murder. i think that after the prosecution had this opportunity to cross examine mr. mcmichael today and did so very effectively in terms of really making the jury understand a lot of what mr. mcmichael was alleging on the stand simply didn't make sense. i think the rest of the defense figured you know what? it may not be best for our clients to testify. let's go with what we have and assume the prosecution may not be able to prove its burden beyond a reasonable doubt. while it does not surprise me entirely, it is going to be up to this prosecution now to truly sell its case to the jury on summation. >> an alleged citizens arrest is really at the crux of this trial. travis mcmichael testifying today that he never told police or arbery that this was a citizens arrest. how much of a problem is that for the defense? >> this is something the prosecution has focused

travis mcmichael, who fired the shots, will return to the stand today. he teared up yesterday as he offered his side of the story for the first time in public. he called it a life-and-death situation after getting into a confrontation with the unarmed 25-year-old black man. mcmichael and two others chased arbery through a georgia neighborhood in february of 2020 after they said he -- they thought he broke into a house. mcmichael claims self-defense when he shot and killed arbery. with more on his testimony now, here's omar villafranca. >>> i want to give my side of the story. i want to explain what happened. >> reporter: instead of invoking the fifth, travis mcmichael gave the jury a first-person account of what he says happened the day he shot and killed ahmaud arbery. mcmichael broke down crying as he described the final deadly confrontation captured on cell phone video as a fight for his life. >> what were you thinking at that moment? >> i was thinking of my son. sounds weird, but that was the first -- the first thing that hit me. >> what did you do?

and i don't think mcmichael or travis mcmichael was a good witness. i thought for a minute that there might be a chance he would get up and say, look, it's my fault. don't put my father in jail. you know, i did the shooting and sort of fall on his sword but he clearly wasn't doing that. he wanted to be heard about his training and his coast guard time. one of the things he said is i know what deadly force is. he said that's why you don't hit people in the head with a club. but yet, in this case, he confronts a man jogging down the street with a loaded shotgun. so there is a lot to work with if you are the prosecutor, and i expect she'll -- she'll probably tear him up pretty good tomorrow. >> let me just, um, play this for you. um, michael. this is the moment where mcmichael said what he was thinking when he shot ahmaud arbery. watch. >> from the truck and by the time i get to the front of the truck, he is at the front-corner panel on the right-hand side and he turns and is on me -- is on me in a flash. i mean immediately on me. >> on you doing what? >

mcmichael, gregory mcmichael or roddie bryan according to the prosecution the shooter, travis mcmichael, claiming self-defense. >> i shot him. >> why >> he had my gun. it's a life or death situation. >> reporter: the prosecution quickly countering. >> then they shot and killed him not because he's a threat to them, but because he wouldn't stop and talk to them. >> reporter: the defense says the pursuit came in the midst of a neighborhood-wide crime spree and allege travis mcmichael tried multiple times to communicate with him peacefully. >> take the gun out, shoot him in the back. >> the defense claiming travis mcmichael charged arbery multiple times. now, outside this georgia courthouse, members of the new black panther party chant for accountability, and a grieving mom listening to arguments also heard this >> turning ahmaud arbery into a victim after the choices that he made does not reflect the reality of what brought ahmaud arbery to scintilla shores in his khaki shorts with no socks to cover his long, dirty toenails >> reporter: with that, an audible wow from arbery's mother who b

sara, i'm curious, do you think based on what we're seeing with travis mcmichael, grekry mcmichael, and william bryan will also take the stand? >> not necessarily, erica. you know, i think the fact that the defense put up travis mcmichael first, he was the shooter. he was the one that shot and killed arbery. and he was the critical witness to establish self-defense. so even though they're all apparently claiming self-defense, to the extent that the evidence will tell the story, i think it's best not to put your client on the stand because look at what had happened, you know, in the course of this cross-examination. it's a very big risk to put your client on the stand, but of course with self-defense, sometimes that's the only way you can tell the story, and of course you also want to humanize your client. so it will be interesting to see whether the other two will also testify or just rely on the evidence. >> sara, i hate to interrupt. as we've been speaking, the cross-examination has resimures. let's listen in. >> mr. arbery is way in front. >> that is correct. ? and you're telling thi