those of you who do not know me i'm tammy myers. i'm the director of relations here at the gettysburg relations center. if you're not already aware we're owned and operated by the gettysburg nature alliance which is a 501c 3 non-profitable charitable organization. a licensed battlefield guide here at the gettysburg national military park and has done so since 2003. two of his previously published books which was coauthored with brit eisenberg and also also another has been awarded as the most outstanding work on the gettysburg battle campaign. and it was the first battlefield guide in similarity to the legendary attack we had here at gettysburg. and also the co-host of the popular the battle of gettysburg podcast. he's written numerous articles and publications and a content provider. he is a speaker for civil war round tables. pct tv, brightbart and civil war talk radio. i'd like to present to you james hesler who's going to be presenting his program. [ applause ] >> all right, thank you, tammy, for the introduction. i was knowing

for those of you who do not know me, my name is tammy myers, director of relations at the gettysburg center. we are owned and operated by a 501(c) 3 nonprofit that is about the gettysburg combination of heritage and habitat. our guest today is james hessler, many of you are familiar with him. he is a licensed battlefield guide here. and he has been so since 2003. his previously published books, gettysburg peach orchard, coauthored with brett eisenberg. and also sickles i'll get it gettysburg, have been awarded the prestigious coddington, for the most outstanding book on the gettysburg campaign. he's also co-author with wayne motts, the book pickets charge at gettysburg. key and the author of a guy to legendary tax on gettysburg. it's also cohost of the popular battle of gettysburg podcast, free on all platforms. he has written articles for publications, one of the primary content designers in the american battlefields drop, a speaker for civil war round tables, on monumental mysteries, civil war talk radio. he was featured in the july 2013 issue a civil war monitor. i'd now like to p

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my name is tammy myers. i'm director of visitor and member relations here at the gettysburg heritage center. if you are not already aware. we are owned and operated by the gettysburg nature alliance, which is a 150 c 3 not profit charitable organization that educates about and preserves gettysburg's combination of heritage and habitat. >> licensed guide here at the park and done so since 2003. co-authored --. and it was the first battlefield to the legendary attacks here at gettysburg. also a co-host of the popular the battle of gettysburg pod cast. which is free on all platforms. he's written numerous articles for publications. one of the primary content designers for and appeared in american battlefield trust mobile app here at gettysburg. he's a speaker for civil war run tables. and npr, travel channel, monumental mystery, pcn, bright bart, civil war and talk radio and featured --. i would now like to present to you james hessler who is going to be presenting his program neutral ground --. [ applause ] >>

my name is tammy myers. i am the director of visitor and member relations here at the gettysburg heritage center. if you're not already aware, we are a we are owned and operated by the gettysburg nature alliance, which is a 501c3 nonprofit charitable organization that educates about and preserves gettysburg's compelling combination of heritage and habitat. our next speaker today is james hessler many of you are very familiar with him. he is a licensed battlefield guide here at the gettysburg national military park and has done. so since 2003. two of his previously published books gettysburg's peach orchard which was co-authored with brett eisenberg and also sickles at gettysburg have been awarded the prestigious back elder coddington award as the most outstanding work on the battle gettysburg battle campaign. he is also co-authored with gettysburg foundation president and ceo wayne motz and mapmaker stephen stanley the book pick his charge at gettysburg and it was the first battlefield guide to legendary the

. >> reporter: tammy and jordan myers telling "people" magazine about their struggle to gain custody of their babies ames and ellison born last january via a surrogate. >> we had a meeting with an adoption agency to start the process, and she looked at me point blank and said, well, you are not the mother. >> reporter: michigan's laws surrounding surrogacy require families like the myers to go through the adoption process meaning a rigorous process of background checks and a home inspection before bringing home their own children. >> they use dna in criminal cases. it's like, why wouldn't you be able to use dna in this situation? >> reporter: the couple's dream of growing a large family was put on hold in 2015 when tammy was diagnosed with cancer. at that time they had one child. >> hi. what you doing? >> reporter: tammy's cancer was highly hormone positive, so doctors say carrying a second baby would have likely brought the cancer back. so she froze her eggs and eventually had twins through a surrogate. >> she's never contested any of this. she has stood right behind us and would wa

. >> tammy and jordan myers saying they had their babies via surrogate last january, but laws surrounding surrogacy in michigan require families to legally adopt their own biological children. >> we had a meeting with an adoption agency to start the process, and she looked at me pointblank and said well you are not the mother. >> we have to go through background checks and a lot of rigorous things that you normally have to go through while doing an adoption process for a child that is not your own. >> coming up, we will of more on their struggle and message to others exploring surrogacy. kumasi: are getting ready for tomorrow's macy's thanksgiving day parade. reggie: look at him, pulling focus. kumasi: i was like, what is happening. reggie: that was from wicked, i know that. i know that ribbon. kumasi: they are returning to pre-pandemic form, this is video of the rehearsal and the route goes there manhattan featuring 50 giant character balloons, 28 floats and dozens of marching bands and santa will be there. celebrities are going to be performing including darren criss, carrie underwood,

. >> reporter: tammy and jordan myers telling "people" magazine that they had their babies eames and ellison via surrogate last january but laws surrounding surrogacy in their home state require families to legally adopt their own biological children. >> we had a meeting with an adoption agency to start the process and she looked at me point blank and said, well, you are not the mother. >> we have to go through background checks and home inspections and a lot of rigorous things. >> reporter: with the babies home with them the myers say their surrogate lauren has been by their side even as their emotional battle drags on in court. >> hi, what are you doing? >> reporter: for tammy and jordan the dream of growing their family came to a devastating halt in 2015 when the couple, parents to older daughter corryn found out tammy had breast cancer. >> with my cancer, it was highly hormone positive so carrying a second baby would likely bring my cancer back. >> reporter: tammy froze her eggs and the couple eventually had their biological babies via surrogate they met through a family friend.