[indiscernible] ron: go ahead. lyneir: this question about systems change -- enterprises that can get capital, can understand entrepreneurs's perspective, hopes and dreams. we have to change how we think about getting capital to businesses because -- i have a friend who says this all the time -- everyone thinks about charity. but if you fund businesses and allow entrepreneurs to create solutions, jobs, economic solutions, we can do our own charity. just grant programs to support entrepreneurship initiatives and economic development. ron: a term for many years. we have seen more attention in the last couple of years. tulaine, can you it explain what impact investing is and whether the definition and strategies associated with it are changing? tulaine: i can tell you how i defined it. there are some different definitions at play. it is investors, a growing number of these investors, who want to see an economic return, but want their investment, and even their financial gain to be part of an ecosystem of capital that

ron busby is the president of u.s. black chamber incorporated and lisa mensah is the president of the opportunity finance network. a very warm welcome to you both. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> ron, may i start with you. you have been a personally very successful businessman, growing from something like $150,000 in revenue to $15 million over ten years. what do you see as the biggest challenges facing minority-owned businesses right now? >> when we get surveyed by business and thank you for having us. we represent run 60 chambers across the country in 42 states with membership of over 385,000 black-owned businesses. and when we did a survey of our business members of what their concerns were, if you ask any small business owner they would say access to capital. when you say that same question posed to a black business owner, they would say the number one, two, and three top concerns are access to affordable, available capital. so for us, capital is critical. we know that we get half of what we've gone in

you asked about ron klain. we hoped mark meadows might host something similar for ron klain. at the time that we had to put it together the white house was not acknowledging that president biden had won. meadows was unable to participate. dennis and i hosted it virtually, like this, on zoom. we got all but three or four living chiefs on the zoom. the session that we had in 2020 was more like the session that we had in december of 2008 given that there was serious advice being given to someone who we expected to have a more normal experience. the one thing that i remember particularly is ron mcclain was very gracious and humble in approaching this group. he underscored his humility by saying that he had actually worked for most of the democratic chiefs of staff on that call. like jack lew. mr. lew: we knew no one had walked into the chief of staff's office with more familiarity with the different approaches to handling the job. tara: did reince priebus and general kelly attend? mr. bolten: general kelly attended. reince said he could originally make it, but then discovered a c

and that is what gives me hope. >> ron busby and lisa mensah. i love finishing with that message of hope. thank you both very much for zwroing us.

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here to answer that is florida governor ron desantis. in-n out pushes it over the top. >> if we got it and you didn't come, i would never let you live that down. >> sean: i would be there. >> we are a great place. it was an interesting conversation. i appreciate what they are doing in the stance they are taking. it's a great company. i am a big fan of their burgers as well. we are leading the fight for freedom in this country. we will have a special session next week. we will do a number of things. one, no floridian can be firedgs over the jabs. we are providing protection. we are going to ban any time of mandates for vaccines for school children. that's a parent's decision and fighting against biden's unconstitutional osha rule? we are fighting him on all fronts. >> sean: with the delta variant came the breakthrough cases fully vaccinated contracting covid. you sprung into action. it was a brilliant idea. you set up these monoclonal antibodies centers in florida even to protect the elderly population. something wete didn't expect. and j

ron: what we learned is the republicans listened to voters. they listened and heard that inflation is making an impact, gasoline prices are too high, food prices are going up. the issue was education. parents have not -- parents were alarmed about they have seen some students' curriculums look like. reading the tea leaves, maybe the democrats are doing too much too fast and hold onto promises instead of moving in a far different direction. laura: was an interesting how president trump terrified suburban voters but republicans did really well in the suburbs last night. can mr. trump be the candidate in 24? ron: it's interesting. i'm already hearing glenn youngkin should be on the ballot in 2024. what he did was important. he was able to straddle the line of mobilizing trump supporters, those deep red districts, while at the same time appealing to suburban people and saying i am a dad, i hear you. that i believe is a blueprint as we head to the midterm election. not trump all the time, but i knew -- a nuanced approach. laura: the midterm electio

but the republican governor of florida, ron desantis, you know, loudly and proudly against basically all of the tools we had at the time to try to limit covid's spread. he was against stay-at-home measures and business closures. you'll remember the footage of spring breakers partying in florida with wild abandon while florida had had basically no anti-covid rules, and the covid numbers were bad, but they started getting terrible there, and it was around that time that the state's top public health official, the state's surgeon general held what by right should have been a totally normal, you know, non-controversial press briefing. >> wish to emphasize the importance of avoiding crowds, six foot spacing. if we are going to be in gatherings, should be less than ten individuals. we should all consider wearing a mask in public in the event that some of us are asymptomatic spreaders. certainly do not work when we are sick, and again, for the elder ly, these individuals need to avoid going out in public and certainly avoid contact with individuals who are ill. until we get a vaccine, which

but the casing and another point that ron made is that -- ron hamburger made, is that once the next indicator pile of the 24-inch pile is put in and they can make a better estimate if they proceed with the original retrofit plan how much settlement do they expect to occur through construction? then the key thing is to be to look at that amount of settlement and make sure it's far less than any of these thresholds that would impact the structural safety of the building. okay. so the last bullet point here really that leads into the next slide is that one part of the permit review -- and this was mentioned before -- is that a requirement that monitoring occurred to the building weekly. there was also some holes put in with down hall monitoring for water tabling and so forth. if you go to the last slide. so then during construction, for the first few months of this year, january through march, we were busy reviewing information from additional soil testing and a couple of test piles that were put in to help finalize the geotechnical parameters to establish the capacity of these piles. the load t

>> i agree with a lot of what ron was saying there. i think first of all that the point you made about virginia becoming a blue state, it's true. joe biden won by ten points. for republicans to be within spitting distance of this thing is miraculous in some ways when you look at the trend of virginia. i know what the history is. if this has gotten very democratic over the years, what republicans are looking for here, whether youngkin wins or loses, i think he is a slight favorite. i agree with larry. what they are looking for is does this party have a path back electorally in the suburbs and what we have seen out of the youngkin campaign is a heavy focus on schools, a heavy focus on crime, and a heavy focus on, you know, kitchen table economic issues to see if they can move those suburban voters, say in northern virginia, back. they went against the republicans in '18 and '20. can they move them back towards the gop? it looks to me like that's where the party's blueprint is for some of the races in the midterm if youngkin has the succe

ron was talking about this. the inflation, the gas pump prices. food going up. how concerned is the white house about that narrative? >> yeah. i think that's the challenge the white house has in front of it is the story of the economy. there are a lot of things in the economy that they are excited about as josh referenced. the jobless claims this week hitting a 50 -year low, and that's the thing. the white house is excited about it. but day-to-day as americans try to buy goods at the supermarket, gas stations prepare for the holidays and buy gifts for their children, they are seeing a rise in prices. and that's hitting everyday-americans. and that's the concern in the white house but across the broader democratic party is if they are -- if americans are feeling the brunt of the economic situation on their everyday basis, that's going to hurt them politically. the white house has a problem of trying to explain that there are a lot of positive numbers in the economy, positive growth that they can point to, but at the same time, there are warning signs and struggle

ron. ron. so, with that said, then why all the hyperventilating and people getting the vapor about, oh my gosh, terry mcauliffe could lose? i mean, that's what history has showed, right? >> well, right. the main reason, don, is the state has become more democratic, you know, over the last decade than it was through all of that history when it was a purple state or even republican leaning in the 1990s. look. i don't think terry mcauliffe losing guarantees that democrats have a bad election in 2022. but what it does tell them is that if the political environment stays the same, whether he wins by a point or loses by a point, it is going to be a tough, you know, environment for them to run in if joe biden is still at 42, 43% nationally. i mean, basically, what this tells democrats, either way, is that job one has to be rebuilding biden's popularity between now and next november through any means they can because that is the biggest undertoe that mcauliffe is facing. >> why are you shaking your hea

>> i didn't. >> ron allen joining us now ron, what's been the reaction from the family of arbery to this unexpected testimony today? >> i just spoke to his mother who says she hopes that all three defendants testify she wants to hear in their own words what they were thinking that day she said that based on the testimony today, she thinks the men made all the wrong and worst possible assumptions about her son and they had no reason to shoot and kill him >> ron allen leading us off tonight thank you. >>> tense hours in that courthouse in kenosha, wisconsin where the jury finished a second day of deliberating the fate of kyle rittenhouse as his lawyers made a new demand for a mistrial this time over some video evidence gabe gutierrez is there. >> reporter: tonight the jurors in the kyle rittenhouse trial are apparently wrestling with video evidence. their first question -- >> do we view videos in private or in the courtroom? so my nightmare has come >> reporter: attorneys sparred over how best to replay videos for the jury showing the incident last august when rittenhouse shot and killed t

handpicked for the job by governor ron stints desantis. just within the past couple of weeks, surgeon general received a great deal of past coverage for his refusal to wear a mask while meeting with the florida state senator. one who had just been diagnosed with cancer. he would not wear a mask in her office. even when she asked him to. and told him she had serious medical issues. he later said that he does not find wearing a mask to be productive one talking to people, so there, that's enough for him. whatever, you and your cancer. one of the things that's most interesting about all of this, is that he rose to this level of prominence in part, not only because he's, well spoken and he's willing to put himself out there on conservative up that pages and stuff. but he did take that america's frontline doctor thing, and put it right at the forefront of his credibility. he has staked his credibility specifically on covid. on his assertions that he is in fact, a frontline doctor. who has spent all of this time, treating covid patients. as a ph

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there is some overlap between offerman's love of meat, whiskey, and woodworking, and the fictitious ron swanson, the character he played for seven seasons on nbc's "parks and recreation." >> you've accidentally given me the food that my food eats. >> salad is traditionally the first course at a wedding. >> is a gerbil marrying a rabbit? >> reporter: swanson was the uber-manly, libertarian boss of pawnee, indiana's parks and recreation department, distrustful of government, while being fiercely protective of his loyal staff. >> i do consider myself a bit of a trojan horse. inexplicably, there's a-- there's a portion of the "parks and recreation" audience that didn't quite comprehend the sense of humor around ron, and instead, they were like, "finally, we're represented." >> reporter: this is the trick that is nick offerman. in the american consciousness, he is both the artist and the every-man; a beloved character, but also an author wrestling with our strained relationship with the environment. >> i don't know how we are taking care of or how we are getting along with mother nature. and

ron, we're talking about other companies agitating for breakups as well. i'm thinking about a macy's, they're talking about unlocking value and that seems to be the ultimate buzzword. we're talking about macy's spinning off, direct to consumer business and there's something that makes you scratch your head. i wonder what your take is on businesses like that where businesses that seem to be almost interlength and yet the notion is you separate them at an unlocked value? >> well, that works sometime i go back to the at&t merger, with the spin-off, you know, that worked reasonably well in the '80s and '90s. this strikes me as odd, if you want to be macy's, i think you want a direct consumer business that's somewhat robust and when you get rid of that, yes, that's interesting. so what happens to the company that's left behind again, i think a lot of this is overthinking, overdealing that gets done. and people, if they don't have a poor strategy for growth -- and as herb said, they start reaching for things and looking for reasons to either add on or spin off,

this viewing the war join me for a special rebuttal and country economy spiraling out of control and ron desantis here with an exclusive interview to offer common sense to the big mess. all star legal panel formaller judge former prosecutor and defense attorney helps me dig into how the explosionive rittenhouse trial went off the rail in prosecution. also the machines -- slowly taken over the threat of artificial intelligence and impact every aspect of your life. eric edams fighting crime and law anded or with a big plank in his campaign he committed part of his campaign platform to bring back plifs something i know a little bit about. here's how hawk newsome cofounder of greater new york responded. >> if they think they're going to go back to the old ways of policing, then we're going taken to streets again there will be riots. there will be fire, and there will be bloodshed. dan: joining me now for the rebuttal is man in that clip greater new york city black lives matter chapter cofounder hawk newsome thank for join me appreciate it. >> not a problem thank you for having me. dan: sure

ron, what do you make of that? >> well, look, again, i think, you know, look at the polling, the share of republican voters who believe that what happened on january 6th was wrong and dangerous has been dropping and the share that say we're paying too much attention to it has been rising and i think that is largely because so few elected republican officials have maintained the outrage that many of them mustered in the first hours when their lives were at risk and they allowed trump and roger stone and aleck jones to portray this as a democratic vendetta against republicans as opposed to upholding the constitution and the ability to have a peaceful transfer of power in the u.s. and so the risk as this goes forward is that you can see how kind of the trump orbit is putting in place the conditions to invalidate, discredit any report no matter how damming the results, which does make you wonder if a committee investigation is enough and whether you ultimately need a criminal investigation and criminal consequences for

abbott in texas, bill lee in tennessee, pete ricketts nebraska, tate reeves mississippi, and of course ron desantis in florida. by the way, florida has the lowest infection rate in the united states. and then with virginia freeing itself by electing glenn youngkin, democrats, i think they frankly just don't know what to do. spending money, that's not helping biden's numbers. trillions more that will be spent perhaps is only going to drive the value of the dollar down further. but covid to them is like crystal meth to a drug addict. they know it's not working. they know it's bad to stay on the topic that they keep returning to it. the fact is everything the experts push from lockdowns to school closures to masks have only made matters worse. and now i know that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the nonvaccinated. oops.

and the question is, kenny ron being persuaded to hold back the program rollback. many of the advances that it is made. i mean, it will still have the knowledge, nothing can be done about that, but at least take away the material that could actually be used for weapons so that iran could not rapidly produce one barbara, we appreciate your insights in breaking it down for us barbara, slave and the director of the atlantic councils feature of iran and you should have thank you. you're welcome plenty morehead, on this news hour, including china promises a 1000000000 doses of corona vine respect seems to african nations as a summary on economic cooperation gets under way in senegal. victory for india, farmers as parliament scraps reform protests to say. the struggle for justice will continue and a portuguese football club. consensus, 13 cases of new code 9 came variance among its plays and all that and more coming up in the hall with jim ah, lebanon's president has discussed his country's deepening economic crisis with cotton, amir michelle arns holding talks while on

thanks, ron. i'll see you guys. >>> i have some new developments to tell you about today in the trial of the killing of ahmaud arbery. a defense attorney says that he is apologizing to anyone who might have been -- his words -- inadvertently offended when he said this. >> we don't want any more black pastors coming in here or other jesse jackson, whoever was in here earlier this week, sitting with the victim's family, trying to influence a jury in this case. olay body wash hydrates to improve skin 3x better, from dry and dull to firm and radiant. with olay body, i feel fearless in my skin. your insurance marketplace healthmarkets dog barks you're right bunker, the medicare enrollment deadline is almost here. if you're on medicare and you want to explore your options, the deadline to enroll is december 7th. so, you should act now. where do i find the right medicare plan? at healthmarkets, they search many of the nation's most recognized carriers so they can help you find the right plan, at the righ

ron, what do you make of that? >> well, look, again, i think, you know, look at the polling, the share of republican voters who believe that what happened on january 6th was wrong and dangerous has been dropping and the share that say we're paying too much attention to it has been rising and i think that is largely because so few elected republican officials have maintained the outrage that many of them mustered in the first hours when their lives were at risk and they allowed trump and roger stone and aleck jones to portray this as a democratic vendetta against republicans as opposed to upholding the constitution and the ability to have a peaceful transfer of power in the u.s. and so the risk as this goes forward is that you can see how kind of the trump orbit is putting in place the conditions to invalidate, discredit any report no matter how damming the results, which does make you wonder if a committee investigation is enough and whether you ultimately need a criminal investigation and criminal consequences for

reporter: for university of california researcher ron cohen, you could say the fight against climate change began on rooftops , like the observatory. it is part of our large network of sensors the plaintiff the east and parts of san francisco. over much of the last decade, ron has tracked levels of carbon dioxide and other missions along major bay area highways and neighborhoods. the kind of data that could help cities monitor the aggressive carbon reduction goals being set up at the cop26 conference in glasgow. >> especially cities are making big claims and ambitious targets . we want to help them understand if they are on track. reporter: ron began installing the sensors where they could get noticed by a worldwide audience, the city of glasgow itself. >> we started in august, deploying the sensors, we've had 10 operating since the first of august. we have a three-month record. reporter: the low cost sensors are able to detect trends on a micro scale. recently, the team was able to dramatic -- document the dramatic drop in emissions when roads emptied out during the initial covid sh

but that is what florida governor ron desantis absolutely did. d >> i'm dr. joe ladapo, i'm a physician at ucla, and i'm a clinical researcher also, and i'm speaking for myself and not on behalf of ucla. so i want to say that -- so i'm thinking of the people who are behind the screens that are watching what you guys are broadcasting. >> that's a dr. named joseph ladapo, as he said, speaking at the america's front line doctors event last summer. don't wear a mask. there's already a cure, zinc, take zinc, there's no covid. that's the event we got that great advice about there's no cure for covid, don't wear a mask. and if you got intrigued by those doctors, you could learn all theou more like if you wanto avoid ovarian cysts, you should really reconsider your sex with demons plans. that's the group from where florida governor ron desantis plucked this doctor from obscurity and appointed him to be the new surgeon general of the great state of florida. it's not like that press conference he attended in july 2020, the one with all the crazy ideas that were sproute

so, ron johnson knows trump lost. it is -- >> but he also knows what the market is now in his party. he now knows the market, not just trump's approval or disapproval but he knows what the base of his party wants, to tim's point originally, which is ron johnson's a barometer for where the wisconsin republican party is. we don't know if he's going to run for re-election or not but the fact that he is doing this is a, to me, tipping the hand that he's actually not going to retire as some people thought he might and he's going to run because he thinks this is the way to protect his right flank and he now knows that's where the republican party is in wisconsin. it's kind of an extraordinary thing. he knows the truth but he knows what his party now wants and probably understands that he's probably right. >> you know, tim, the democratic party's bet is that delivering, delivering for the public, delivering shots in arms, checks in checkbooks, universal pre-k, all the stuff in both infrastructure bills, is the way to win. th

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attempts by a defense attorney to keep some well-known black pastors and activists from the courtroom ron allen is in brunswick, georgia with late details. >> he did not threaten me verbally. >> all right did he brandish any weapons? >> no, ma'am. >> didn't pull out any guns >> no, ma'am >> reporter: the final day of testimony, prosecutors spent hours challenging travis mcmichael's claim that ahmaud arbery attacked him and that he shot and killed arbery in self-defense back in february of last year. >> didn't pull out any knife? >> no, ma'am. >> never reached for anything, did he >> no. >> he just ran >> yes, he was just running. >> reporter: mcmichael insisting he and his codefendants had been trying to detain arbery until police could arrive, suspecting he had been involved in an uptick in crime in a neighborhood on edge at one point, he accused arbery attacking the pickup truck driven by defendant william bryan. mcmichael testifying he feared arbery would come at him and his father greg mcmichael next. >> he was acting weird. he was acting funny when i was trying to talk to him prior,

ron biegler was angry, wound up. the new district attorney, dan rubenstein was set to call paige's first husband. he was a key witness, but was afraid he might actually attack jones in the courtroom because biegler had actually threatened to kill him. >> and indicated that he wanted mr. jones to be found not guilty so that he could kill him and feed him his genitals. use of different word than that. >> proceedings ground to a sudden halt. biegler was hauled before the judge. >> if you have any outbursts or you do anything, an attempt to harm anybody in the courtroom, that that will result in serious consequences. >> it's been overexaggerated. taken out of context. >> reporter: chastened but insisting it was all still a misunderstanding, biegler took the stand and testified about his last day with paige. >> talked about me moving into her house here in the junction. we talked about her quitting her business. >> which business? >> the adult entertainment business. >> did you give her reasons why you wanted her to quit?

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florida governor ron desantis pushing back and hard. he is now moving to block florida funding of airlines and buses aiding biden's catch-and-release. thanks for joining us. i'll elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. okay, let's get you updated on this. biden's man made energy crisis, it is now front and center. he and democrats are making life miserable for working class americans that the president promised to help. middle and working class voters are slammed by soaring prices to heat their homes. gas prices up 60% versus a year ago. 30-year high in inflation. we have biden's nominee for comptroller of the currency, saule omarova. white house wants oil,h coal, gas industries to go bankrupt to tackle climate change. hillary vaughn in washington with much more. hillary? reporter: speaker pelosi says the department of defense needs to reduce their dependence on fossil fuels. she agreed at a climate conference in scotland with a question who

in iowa, greg abbott in texas, bill lee infancy, pete ricketts nebraska, kate reed mississippi and ron desantis in florida. florida now has the lowest infection rate in the united states. in virginia by a like england youngcan, democrats don't know what to do. spending money is not helping biden's numbers and trillions more that will be spent will only drive the value of the dollar down further but covid to them is like crystal myths to a drug addict. they know it's not working, they know it's a bad but they keep returning to it. the fact is everything the experts push from lockdowns to school closures to masks have only made matters worse and now we know the vaccinated can spread the virus as easily as the nonvaccinated and with this new variant they want us to start embracing more mandates. lineup for the endless boosters that may or may not work, great

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once to follow up on something ron said. how much of a response the last 10 months of the biden dumpster fire was this win by glenn youngkin? >> the policies are a part of it. on the campaign trail, have you been to a grocery store or gas station lately? the skyrocketing prices for gasoline are being felt. one of his first acts on the first day was to shutdown the keystone pipeline, that lets russia have a gas pipeline into germany, begging saudi arabia to increase oil production. in oklahoma, north dakota increased production at all of this is unnecessary. when they say if they pass that bill, what is that going to do? for gas prices? it will only increase them and increase electricity bills. what happens in washington, even the crisis on the border, in afghanistan, terrible disapproval ratings of president biden but glenn, glenn youngkin, talking about the matter to virginians. by reducing taxes among groceries and reducing other taxes, mcauliffe is on the side of raising taxes. a key issue is safety in the schools, the co

[chanting] >> kayleigh: in the latest tiff between the president and ron desantis, the governor went on to threat the government overreach. >> first of all this idea that somehow conservatism is about to like local school work, it is the united states of america, not the united school boards or or county commission of america, so the states are the primary vehicle to protect people's freedoms, their health, their safety, their welfare and our constitutional system, what biden is doing is not constitutional. there has never been -- there has never been a federal vaccine mandate imposed on the general public. >> kayleigh: so well put, emily, unconstitutional, never been done before. >> emily: that's right, because of powers are reserved a state and local governments, that's why governor's issue the public proclamations of emergency health emergencies and also mayors. and to his point about biden exploiting the executive branch as well as osha, keep in mind that osha's authority can issue temporary emergency standards when their employees are facing grave danger and must be feasible for

. >>> i am ron swisher. i hope you have been with us this whole time because you have been inspired if you have been. in these last few minutes, i'm going to ask reverend anthony and reverend bobby, what is the most joyous part of your ministry and what is the most arduous and difficult? >> the most joyous time for me is being able to bring the good news of the gospel of jesus christ and being able to help someone improve their life. it's not about living a life the way i do, or choosing to do things the way i was, but embracing their faith the way that's comfortable for them. my greatest joy is when someone says they want to accept christ as their personal lord and savior and live out their faith, whatever that means. the most challenging as some of the community issues that we have to engage in. that can be challenging because often you will take shots from colleagues and others and administrations perhaps do not prefer you to be out. and even some church members that you love. they would rather you not en

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and ron johnson, former captain of missouri highway patrol. he was appointed in the wake of unrest there to coordinate law enforcement agencies in ferguson. judge gertner, what do you make of the closing arguments from both the prosecution and defense? >> well, i was sort of struck by things people haven't sort of identified before. in the -- in the defense, it was explicitly political. at one point issue he said literally that the government was just charging the first white supremacist that he could find. only, rittenhouse wasn't a white supremacist. he said that -- that the attack on some of the witnesses for being politically biased and that he said their viewpoints are kind of like my viewpoints. he was making this explicitly political. and he was making it personal. at one point, he talked about the prosecutor being whiny. and then, there was obviously the -- the call to what i have in other settings talked about vigilanteism. that has stopped them from wreaking havoc in kenosha like they had done the night before. those were the things

>> and ron, thank you. and maya, i mean, ron was just talking about that long jury selection process. the judge in the case, essentially said that his hands were tied, even if jury selection was discriminatory. how can that happen? >> reporter: unfortunately, it can happen because what the supreme court of the united states has said is, it's okay to allow lawyers to strike people from the jury for no reason at all. they don't have to give a reason. as long as race is not the only reason. so what happens is, we have, frankly, often, prosecutors -- in this case -- we have defense attorneys, being trained on how they can make arguments for why they struck someone that isn't about race. so they can say -- and this happened in a georgia case, where they said, you know, i didn't think that we had a good rapport when i was questioning the juror. sometimes we have cases where they say, well, they actually liked the outcome of the o.j. simpson case. so things that don't have anything to do with the trial in front of