to the national archives staff and acknowledgment. it's much appreciated. the activists devoted his career to opposing what he deemed immoral. of the 1873 comstock act outlawed his sending obscenity and contraceptives and its effect listed for 100 years. after the passage aid to women engaged in the decades fight against the law and describes how the activism laid the groundwork for the expansion of the rights in the future. "the new york times" best-selling author of 12 books which have been published on five continents and as a writer for television she's written weekly columns for the downtown weekly new york press and post and was a " contributing editor moderator is the author n of for or nonfiction books and formerly served as the executive director the features editor and contributing editor to "newsweek"sw whose writing has appeared on "the wall street journal," "chicago tribune," glamour and the nation among others. now let's hear from amy and elizabeth mitchell. thank you for joining us. >> i am so thrilled to welcome amy today to this program at

in the national archives in washington dc. we are talking about women's history, yes, i have often said that you have to be a total masochist to write women's history because it's this research in the world, should add research about underrepresented youth of any kind is incredibly difficult pretty people tend to be when they are involved and you and i and the narratives and authors, always kind of get these materials and i look at these women in terms of shading in the personal details of their life and not every case was able to get the diaries c in the letters and so in some cases i had to rely on court transcripts as you said, sometimes newspaper articles they could be instructed in contain personal details pretty and in one of these newspapers and that's a real tragedy of women's history which is the more unconventional lives that some of these women lead, frequently, the less likely they were to marry and have children and kind of have this may be in of the women in my book were not wealthy, there were not well-connected

can you talk about the national archive itself? what kind of space it defines their that was useful? >> i got the tip from a woman named amy were whole published book having to do with comstock's delusional world and she said you want to look into the postal records. i don't remember what she said i want international archives in washington dc postal records are pretty wonderful and exhaustive their. using battle of an archivist, independent archivist there named john. i was listening to, i was able to figure out where to get these files that were individual postal records related to people prosecuted for doing things connected to the mail and they're basically like fbi files. there was a predecessor call material investigations and it may have had adifferent time , different name of there are these size of a mailing envelope. they have that person's name and you open it up and these files contain the actual material. sitting there in the national archive which is a story although place and you're reading about sexual scenarios. un

and some are in the national archives because they're in the postal records. and the publications out of worcester county, you can read issues of it in the postal records, the national archives in washington d.c. we were talking about women's history. yeah, i've often said, now, i don't know if you make these jokes, too, you have to be a total masochist to write women's history because it the hardest research in the world and i should add research about underrepresented groups of any kind is incredibly difficult because people tend only to leave records when they were involved with someone famous. >> yes. >> and you know, you and i and narrative nonfiction authors were always trying to get personal materials and i really did the best i could with these women in terms of shading in the personal details of their lives, and not every case was i able to get diaries and letters and so, in some cases i had to rely on court transcripts, as you said, sometimes newspaper articles or smaller newspapers could be instructive and containing personal details in them and you

thank you for the national archive hosting us tonight. read the book, it will help you lead a better life, i really do think that. andy will last. >> i'm supposed to be nonbiased but he was a great man, a wonderful life. could have gone home to houston, he just did all because of good things. there were about three remembered for -- her for literacy, him for points of light foundation and will live long after. thank you. >> thank you, good night everybody. ♪♪ >> until 2015, a national security correspondent for washington post. on the cover of his new book called blown to hell, its subtitle america's debt the betrayal of commercial islanders. it was in those islands that served as a staging ground for over 60 nuclear tests conducted by the u.s. government beginning in 1946. the castle test over bikini in 1954 was where america executed its largest nuclear detonation, 1000 times more powerful than iwo jima. >> author on this episode of book notes plus. ♪♪ >> you can be part of the national conversation by participating in c-span st

archives from turning over key documents, kate. >> kara, in the meantime, the national archives is still on schedule to release those documents tomorrow, right? >> reporter: yeah, kate. this is a nail-biter. you know, the judge twice rejecting trump's arguments, he's 0-2. the question is does he goes to appeals court and ask them to temporarily block this while they hear his argument on the merits of the executive privilege claim. they haven't done that. the clock is ticking, it's a national holiday. the national archives has those records in hand and has revealed some. they could do this tomorrow unless it's blocked. >>> let's turn to texas where a contractor hired to provide security for the astroworld concert says that he was so concerned by the training and staffing that he saw on site even before the concert started that he walked off the job. his name is darious williams. he tells cnn that it was clear to him that the staff at the festival were unprepared and overwhelmed. cnn's rosa flores joins me live once again in houston with the latest on the investigation into this horrific t

the archives themselves, the national archives and records administration's, they just tear apart trump's claims that this stuff should be kept secret. the archive says, first of all, it's only the sitting president who gets to decide what's covered by executive privilege. the sitting president is joe biden, not donald trump. president biden has already said the stuff is not covered by privilege, therefore it's not covered by privilege. the archives also says that even if trump did have some kind of right to claim executive privilege it would obviously be outweighed by quote, congress is compelling need for information about the extraordinary attack that occurred on the capitol. so number one trump is asking for a ton of stuff to be kept secret. number two, he is saying that it should be kept secret on the basis of privilege, and everybody is saying like, yeah dude, no you don't even get to say that. even if you did we would still say no. but here's the third most interesting thing that we've learned, this weekend in the filing, in this court filing the national archives, actually describ

the national archives is set to turnover these records on november 12 and that's where trump comes in. he's going to court. he's asking a judge where he is being -- pitting himself against the biden administration and the house. he is asking a judge to rule in his favor, offer at least give him a little help to put a court order on all of this and say, no, those records should not be turned over yet until we look at these. big questions about through's role as a former president. that's where we are now. >> yeah, one of the primary goals is to slow this train down as much as possible, delay, delay, delay, a classic trump lawyer tactic. interestingly, they are asking the judge to look at these documents at least some of them in secret, what's known as in camera, to first examine them for privilege issues first. interesting to citi whether she takes that approach. kaitlan, for you, how does what the judge decides here, how does what she decides affect the rest of the investigation? some of these depositions for other people are already on hold. so where is this going? >> that is absolut

a lot of my life in the archives. both in london and in d.c., the national archives there. it's quite interesting but those don't go into archives everyday. you often order up and you have very little idea what's going to be inside because the catalog records are not great. thereafter book fair and there's no interest in you open one it's gold dust and it's fantastic. one of the things i discovered was crime and berlin, there's this paradise. i turned up a file, this is a story protected from london with a team of people to try to crack the crime rate. detective inspector tom says, he basically finds himself investigating the biggest crime ring in the history of crime. it's absolutely fantastic because the city is full of gangsters, you name it, they are all there. the last remnants, they rated everything. rare metals, works of art, so tom sent in their, he works alongside the americans to try to bust the crime rate. i was all in this file and went it came to washington, there was another file in the national archives as well as washington so the whole chapter of the book i

on parallel track with the trump executive privilege claim for the documents in the national archive. there will be a lot of interplay. >> that's interesting, that parallel. trump and his attorneys have now gotten their issue right before the appellate court, and it will be what? november 30th before a decision might be rendered. if it means that the court says national archives, go ahead and share with the january 6th committee the white house documents, that could completely. but if it says no, right, then trump and his attorneys could very well take this to the supreme court? >> yes. i think it's likely that it does go to the supreme court either way. and so then you get into the timeline issue of all of this. but it is a significant step going forward to indict an individual, and it is a significant step forward to have the national archives document the case, which will render a decision of some sort on the strength of the trump executive privilege claim, and they will be interacting. >> so how else -- is there another avenue the january 6th committee can go to try to get the doc

they've been waiting for quite a few weeks to get that information from the national archives. now as you've already mentioned, the trump administration -- i should say the former president has said that he is going to attempt to appeal this. at this point, the court has turned back any attempts for any stays on this, allowing the matter to go forward. so we'll have to see whether or not they put a stay in place to prevent the release of this information by friday. >> yeah, because as far as the archives, they are preparing to turn the records over. and that process has already begun. i am wondering, though, ryan, what is this going to mean? what does this mean now for this january 6 committee investigating? >> well, i think from their -- the perspective of the committee itself, it is a key tool in their investigatory process. they have theories as to what went wrong on that day. they have dots that they are attempting to connect. they can only connect those dots so much without the information that they would have at their disposal. they certainly have attempted to do that thr

a lot of my life in the archives. both in london and in d.c., the national archives there. it's quite interesting but those don't go into archives everyday. you often order up and you have very little idea what's going to be inside because the catalog records are not great. thereafter book fair and there's no interest in you open one it's gold dust and it's fantastic. one of the things i discovered was crime and berlin, there's this paradise. i turned up a file, this is a story protected from london with a team of people to try to crack the crime rate. detective inspector tom says, he basically finds himself investigating the biggest crime ring in the history of crime. it's absolutely fantastic because the city is full of gangsters, you name it, they are all there. the last remnants, they rated everything. rare metals, works of art, so tom sent in their, he works alongside the americans to try to bust the crime rate. i was all in this file and went it came to washington, there was another file in the national archives as well as washington so the whole chapter of the book i

former president trump is not going to get to block the documents that the national archives has. including, according to bennie thompson, the head of the committee, that it took him six tries to satisfy his own staff that he was sending the right message on january 6th to get people to go home. how could a president need that many tries to tell people to go home? so we'll see what were in those other takes. >> now, we have more breaking news on another story. cnn just confirmed that the nfl is going to fine aaron rodgers, the green bay packers, and his teammate allen lazard for violating covid protocols, but the money here is not going to mean anything to rodgers. less than $15,000. same fine for his unvaccinated teammate. i don't go what his salary is. they were both cited for going to a halloween party unvaxed. isn't that the least of it in terms of rodgers' deception here. the club is going to have to pay $300,000, but neither of the players is getting benched. they're both going to be able to play. rodgers seems to be shifting his approach in the wake of the controversy. on f

overnight trump waged and lost a legal fight to block the national archives from sending documents to the january 6th committee. a judge called trump's request for an emergency injunction, quote, premature. joining me is garrett haake. political national correspondent and contributor betsy woodruff swann and former prosecutor and msnbc glen kerschner. >> chris, has you pointed out, these potential witnesses will have some time before they have to be deposed. it would be that thanksgiving week when they'd be expected to provide documents. depositions wouldn't come until mid december. we know there's perhaps more outstanding subpoenas from this committee that we could get our hand on relatively soon. late last week the chairman, bennie thompson, told reporters he had signed off on 20 subpoenas. these are only six. the expectation is we could learn about the continued effort of this committee to pursue, as you see in this batch of subpoenas, both high and low-level figures in the trump campaign and some longstanding members of the trump orbit. of the six the only person to respond to any

so he's indicated that the national archives should cooperate, as you mentioned. judge jenkin also agreed with that and said this serves our purpose. and that it's important work that we're doing. and so our expectation is that on friday, we can get this documentation and start to go through it. >> we'll see how this legal battle plays out offer the next 48 hours. these are critical couple of days. your committee chairman bennie thompson says you have a, quote, problem if the justice department doesn't prosecute steve bannon for refusing to cooperate. how much of your committee's investigation hinges on the department of justice action and acting expeditiously on this? >> well, we just hope that they follow the law. and that's what the department of justice should do. and the law says specifically that they have a duty to bring this in front of a grand jury. that's the language and so when the house of representatives voted to hold mr. bannon in contempt, that's transmitted to the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia and the law says exactly what the next st

and he has indicated that the national archives should cooperated. our expectation is that, on friday, we can get this documentation and start to go through. it >> indeed, as we've been covering here, over these past few days, the house committee appears to be widening its reach, it is showing subpoenas to some of trump's closest allies and advisers. meanwhile, ten months now, after that capital sacking, the first sentence for assaulting a police officer has been handed down. scott fairlamb of new jersey received 41 months in prison. that is the longest sentence in the case of january six. scott fairlamb, was captured on video pushing an officer on camera. punching that officer's face shield as well as injuring the complex itself. scott fairlamb pleaded guilty to assault, and to obstructing an official preseason. today after the proceeding, he said that he was willing and ready to talk to the january six committee. >> he would still be happy to do that. he wants to be part of the solution. not just the problem. they believe that he has information th

the national archives is set to release them actually on friday. last night, federal district judge tonya chutkan gave the green light in a ruling that read in part, quote, presidents are not kings and plaintiff is not president. well, late today, lawyers for the not president who would be king appealed the case and sought a stay in the judge's order. she has yet to rule on that. want to bring in cnn's chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. so first ever all, just the fact that they have asked for a stay, they are asking for a stay from the -- the same judge who gave that ruling? >> right. that's how it works. um, the -- the first thing you have to do when you are asking for a stay is you ask the judge who -- who made the original order. it's unlikely that judge will grant the stay since she said the -- the former president's position had no merit. but you have to jump through that hoop before you have the right to go to the court of appeals -- the d.c. circuit -- which then could grant a stay. and that's really, i think, where the action's going to

well from the national archives. and he is arguing that the materials protected by executive privilege. mind you, trump is not the executive in charge. president joe biden's. the white house has already said multiple times that privilege should not be invoked in this case. today, trump has his day in court, and while we have not heard a ruling of this case yet, the district court judge did not seem to strictly convinced by their argument. then we that is -- years ago we heard cases about the judge presiding on the, case because she is a public defender. and joyce alene, we is a former u.s. eternity for the northern district of alabama. glenn kirschner, let me start with. you just lay out what is the issue we are and what the argument is that the trump lawyers were making. >> so, the trump lawyers are desperately trying to find a reason to prevent the documents from going from the national archives over to the house select committee. these are documents and phone logs and handwritten notes and talking points that will

i was at the national archives there. and it's quite interesting for those who don't go into archives every day, what happens, you often order up a box file, and you have very little idea what's going to be inside it because the catalog records for these things are not great, so you know, you can order up book after book, and there's nothing of any interest, and you open one, and it's gold dust and it's just fantastic, you know. one of the things i discovered was crime was ripe in berlin. it was a gangster's paradise, and one day i turned up this box file, and it was just marked operation sparkler, and this was the story of a detective from london, from scotland yard in london, who was sent to berlin with a team of people to try and crack the crime ring. and detective inspector, tom hayward, he arrives in berlin. basically finds himself investigating the biggest crime ring in the history of crime. it's absolutely fantastic because this city is full of gangsters, pimps, you name it. they're all there. they raided everythin

the archives themselves, national archives and records administration, they tear apart trump's claims that this stuff should be kept secret. he said it is only the sitting president who gets to see side what is covered by executive privilege. biden has already said it is not covered by privilege. and -- so, number one, trump is asking for a ton of stuff to be kept secret and claiming secret and then it was like hey, dude, no. and in this court filing the national archives describes some of the specific records donald trump is trying to keep hidden, not just the logs and things i said, but also there is this -- sorry? what were these presidential findings about the security of the election and what actions was trump prepared to order on the basis of those presidential findings? did he try that? what were his findings? did he try to order something in response to him finding out about the election security in 2020? what? also there is this -- trump drafted an executive order concerning election integrity in 2020? seemed like it would be important for the january 6 committee to have in t

archives has described it in court filings, is a draft executive order that the national archives said circulated. we don't know who drafted this order or why the president didn't sign off on it. but we do know, according to the archives, that it contained language about, quote unquote, election integrity. what exactly trump was trying to do on that front or was considering doing on that front in the final weeks of his presidency, that's something that that particular document could possibly cast a lot of light on. that's why there's just such an immense focus on the very high stakes court battle playing out right now as trump and his lawyers trying to keep that document and many others from seeing the light of day. >> which brings us, jake, to the question of the folks who might have the information that betsy was just asking about, like who was behind a document like that and why didn't it get signed. mark meadows is a no-show, that we know. does he have any reason to appear in that? if nothing's happened to bannon yet, why should anyone feel compelled to comply? >> well, there's a b

it comes one day before the national archives is set to turn over trump's records to the committee. let's dig deeper and bring in former u.s. attorney joyce vance and nbc washington investigative reporter scott macfarlane and pbs newshour correspondent and host, of course, of "washington week." trump still has time to file another appeal before these things get released. his jam is to run the clock. how long can he do that? do you think we will see these things? >> you know, i suspect we will, stephanie. the default is that national archives will release the first tranche of documents including phone logs and perhaps mark meadows' notes on friday if the court doesn't act to prevent them from doing it. trump's logical step is to prevent the corporate's order that archives release those documents to keep that from going into effect. they may decide to issue a short temporary stay while they resolve the issues. the district court order here is definitive. there's little reason to believe that the former president is entitled to an injunction, and so i'm cautiously optimistic the house

well from the national archives. and he is arguing the material is the protected by executive privilege. mind you, trump is not the executive in charge. president joe biden is. the white house has already said multiple times that privilege should not be invoked in this case. today trump had his day in court. while we have not heard a ruling in the case yet. the district judge did not seem particularly convinced by arguments. ben kirk is a 30-year former federal prosecutor he was in the courtroom. he worked cases. and joes vanessa is a professor at the alabama school chl law and former u.s. attorney for are the northern district of alabama. glen, let me start with you. lay out what's at issue and what the arguments the trump lawyers were making were. >> yeah, so the trump lawyers are desperately trying to fid a reason to prevent the documents from going from the national archives over to the house select committee. these are documents and phone logs, handwritten notes, talking points that will enlighten the house sele

those records that trump doesn't want seen are with the national archives, but they could be just days away from being turned over to the committee. >> we hope that these can start to be transmitted on friday. the national archives has indicated that they have the material ready, ready to transmit, and they are following the president's request to turn those over to the january 6th committee. president biden is the president that gets to decide what is privileged, and so he has indicated that the national archives should cooperate. so our expectation is that on friday we can get this documentation and start to go through it. >> indeed. as we've been covering here, over the past few days that house committee appears to be widening its reach, issuing subpoenas to some of trump's closest allies and advisors. meanwhile, ten months now after that capitol sacking the first sentence for assaulting a police officer has been handed down. scott fairlamb of new jersey received 41 months in prison. that's the longest sentence yet in the case of 1/6. fairlamb was captured on video pushing an office

the archives themselves, the national archives and records administration, they tear apart trump's claims that this stuff should be kept secret. trump said it is only the sitting president who gets to decide what is covered by executive privilege. biden has already said it is not covered by privilege. and -- so, number one, trump is asking for a ton of stuff to be kept secret, number two, he's saying it should be kept secret on the basis of privilege, and everybody involved is like, yeah, dude, you don't get to say that, and even if you did, we'd still say no. but here's the third thing we learned this week. in this court filing the national archives describes some of the specific records donald trump is trying to keep ridden, not just the logs and things i said, but also there's this, quote, a document containing presidential findings concerning the security of the 2020 election after it occurred and ordering various actions. sorry? what were these presidential findings about the security of the election, and what actions was trump prepared to order on the basis of those presidential fin

the national archives says it intends to hand over the trump documents next friday unless the judge blocks them which she did not appear willing to do. this is such an historic case with implications for future presidents it is likely whatever decision the judge makes will be appealed. we also learned today that the committee has interviewed over 150 people so far in its investigation. >> thank you so much. let's talk to somebody who knows a little bit about executive privilege, john dean, white house counsel during president richard nixon's administration, obviously a key figure in the watergate investigation. mr. dean as always, great to have you here. so the judge criticized the trump team's executive privilege claim. give us a quick background on executive privilege. do you think it can be successfully invoked in this case? >> executive privilege comes from the separation of powers that the fact we have three branches of government and each branch can do its own thing within its own powers and the other branch has limited rights to look at what they're doing. for example we can't look

there's a ticking clock on the pressing issue, this national archives document dump. here are the ten people they're hoping to get information from. these are people the committee believes, and based on records we've explored on cnn, public lib available for people to peruse for themselves, people at the very center of this effort by the white house to use the trump administration's department of justice to overturn the election. there are a list of names here. let's zero in on one of them. michael michael. she appears in these documents as sending information to top officials at the department of justice with email lines that say "from potus." that email contains talking points and alleged information about alleged voter fraud in a county in michigan. two weeks later, she sent another email including the solicitor general with basically this draft appeal to the supreme court to try to overturn the election in six states. these are people who are very familiar, according to the documents we've seen with the president's mindset and efforts to try to overturn the electi

the january 6th committee served an opinion on the national archives to get these documents. donald trump, however, filed a lawsuit saying, no, no, no, you can't turn the documents over. they ever executive privilege and other legal arguments. on the other side of this lawsuit, we have the national archives, bennie thompson, the white house, the president, and the house of representatives, the current house, plus a group of 66 lawmakers, including 22 republicans. trump is on a bit of an island when it comes to this lawsuit. >> does he have any standing here? . >> so, it's a good question. we don't exactly know. the key concept is executive privilege. can a former president invoke executive privilege? we know from a case in 1977, the privilege survives the individual president's tenure, meaning there could be an instance where a former president can invoke executive privilege. but the current president is in best position to assess the need of the executive branch and to invoke the privilege accordingly. if we look at recent history, we have seen examples where the current pre

right now there's about 700 or more documents that are on hold that the national archives, the biden administration want to turnover to the house. the house doesn't have them yet. they are pending in this court case. and also it's not just about documents. this court case is affecting witnesses in the investigation, people that the house has reached out to and said, we really want you to talk to us. and they have said, we can't yet because we're waiting to see what happens in court. those are top people, top people from the white house who would have had conversations with the president, people like mark meadows, the former chief of staff. he was subpoenaed. and a few others who are resisting speaking right now to the house. >> speaking with people who are resisting speaking to the house, you have this former d.o.j. official, jeffrey clark. people might remember him, trying to curry favor with the former president, buddying up to him about all these baseless allegations of voter fraud. the committee is now mulling a contempt citation for him as well. just remind our viewers, though,

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here's the size and the national archives. he coordinate with her for her messages to be sent to his alias. so rose's home became a meeting place for secessionists. one of them that i will mention is eugenia phillips just because i find this intriguing. she was the wife of a former alabama senator and lawyer. he decided to stay in d.c. also the sister of phoebe yates who was one of the matrons during the war. one other member of the spy ring was a 16-year-old girl named betty. it is betty who is the one to deliver rose's fateful message. now uncial 99th rose sends a message to general beauregard via betty devol telling him that the union army and northeastern virginia was about to move. beauregard sent general to confirm this. and then on july 16, rose gave that confirmation. she said the march was scheduled for tonight. so beauregard automatically wired jefferson davis with this news. jefferson davis then was able to send joseph johnson from the valley to reinforce beauregard. rose was not in the city when the battle of manas

i talk about that process having his team and a researcher who goes into the national archives that are literally treasure troves of historic nuggets and that book focussing on the three days in between eisenhower and kennedy's inauguration kind of opened my eyes to moments in history that are either overlooked or not focused on enough. so then the second book is about reagan and the final summits with gorbachev and the speech he gives at moscow state university. which in the big span of history is an amazing speech if you think about it and just wasn't focused on a lot of the time. and then a few days at the brink is fdr, churchill and stalin planning d-day at the tehran conference which gets over-shadowed. so it's kind of like another spotlight that i wanted to give to something that i didn't think was focused on. so once that three day series was done, and the beginning, middle and end to the cold war, i wanted to find something that was also overlooked. and i looked at grant and i thought, i know nothing about his presidency. other than he was a drunk and it was scandal filled and h

and so this is the cipher here in the national archives. and he coordinated with her for her messages to be sent to his alias, which was thomas rayford. rose's home bim a meeting place for successionists. he had decided to stay in december, but she's also the sister of phoebe gates who was the -- one of the matrons during the war. one other member of the spy ring was a 15-year-old girl named betty duval. and it's betty who's actually the one to deliver rose's fateful message. now, rose, on july 9th sends a message to general boregard. he sent the general to confirm this, and then on july 16th, rose gave that conifer haitian. she said the march was scheduled for tonight. so beauregard automatically wired jefferson davis with this news. jefferson davis then was able to send joseph johnson from the valley to reinforce beauregard. rose was not in the city when the battle of manassas bull run was fought on july 21st. she was actually in new york city. she had gone to take her daughter, lela, to board a steamer. she decided to send lela, her midd

i want to move to the national archives response to the opinion last night. presidential records belong to the united states, not to any individual, and the former president was fully aware the presidential records that he generated like those of his predecessors will largely become public and that all three branches of government may have access to them to conduct the business of government during the unrestricted period. plaintiff possible it is no argument here that the court has not already previously rejected. the legal stonewalling is not going well for former president donald trump. when i lay that over your three buckets it seems like what the committee might want to know is money that went from the trump campaign or trump affiliated groups to any of the insurrectionists, planned meetings and trump's calls into the willard, we know from the great reporting from you, from betsy, from others, that there was lots of contact, almost a direct line. and in this third bucket. it tells like that might be the thing that trump was trying to protect, his records

yeah, my wife loves taking up guests and for 2 kids to the national archives. so she'll get the one the gift shop, they have a copy there that would be, that would be good. that's when it gets very cool story. i mean, i think like in light of the c r t debate and all these things, we're gonna talk about more education about the constitution looking at it. it's origins, how it came about, even the story of the articles of confederation and how it was replaced. it's wonderful, it's powerful my old boss, late polish laugh. we used to say it was a divine event that we, that these pretty regular very towns at all. but there were regular people they came in, came together and put it together and worked out. it's an extraordinary miracle, literally not just that piece of paper, but even though that is an actual symbol which brings us to the is happening right now. thomas jefferson statues banished from the new york city hall after 187 years sachi will be relocated to the new york historical society. like people just put that on their maps to and what is it when in new

he's appealing a federal ruling that would allow the national archives to release more than 700 pages worth of his personal records to the house select committee, including white house call logs, videos, schedules, and handwritten notes from january 6. judge tanya chutkin rejected the former president's executive privilege argument and bluntly stated, "presidents are not kings and the plaintiff is not president." >> if you take your issue to court and lose, then you need to-- to man up and deal with it and not be a spoiled brat. >> reporter: the committee says it urgently needs these documents, calling the potential harm to the public immense. a spokesperson for the former president says he intends to see this process through, which could potentially go all the way up to the supreme court. norah. >> o'donnell: nikole killion, thank you. tonight, houston's police chief isn't ruling out criminal charges after that deadly concert over the weekend, and investigators are demanding key security information from concert organizers, which they have yet to turn over. we get more now from cbs'

archives is expected to turn the information over to the select committee on friday. >> and trump's lawyers could use the delay to block that disclosure. >> absolutely, and they are working on that now. they are appealing to a federal appeals court. the judge initially said no, because she had not ruled one way or the other, and she said it was too early and now that she has ruled i would not be surprised if we see an appeal in the next hour or so. >> we'll wait and see. >> thanks, scott. >>> san francisco's district attorney will have to split his time between fighting crime and fighting off a recall effort. the petition was certified for a recall measure and it will take place on june 7th. there were 30,000 more signatures, and there's a statement saying we are confident san francisco voters will reject this republican-funded and endorsed effort as well. read the full story online right now on our home page, nbcbayarea.com. >>> new this morning, san francisco mayor london breed weighing in on the recall of three school board members. she said she supports change. two board members

that museum of national archives. just to get a glimpse of the real thing. but another 1st edition copy was a just sold at auction. and as artie correspond, natasha sweet explains it so fast and cost more than you might expect. a 1st edition copy of the u. s. constitution sells for a whopping $43200000.00 in only 8 minutes. and many were surprised this unknown bitter beat out a crypto crowd funder, who also made a group effort to obtain that 1787 documents. there's nothing more american than the phrase we the people for many who consider themselves. patriots. see the u. s. constitution as gospel for how this young country was started and many believe we need to heed the founding fathers directions. now, more than ever, regardless of where you stand politically, all can agree there simply nothing like the real thing. at the new york auction thursday, a mystery bitter bought the 1st edition, copy in minutes. his person out bid aid crypto crown funder, who managed to raise 40000000 for the historic document, but in the end, they were 3000000 sure of what the pr

trump tried to block the national archives from turning over the records, but a judge said congress can have the information, saying trump's argument seems to be premised on the notion that his executive power exists in perpetuity. meanwhile, more former white house officials subpoenaed, including the former white house press secretary that said she had prove the election was fraudulent. miller spoke to fox last night where the fox anchor concluded miller would not honor the subpoena. >> that's just one more -- >> you are not going to be showing up to testify in front of the so-called select committee -- >> i don't even have the documents, laura. >> the national archives is expected to turn the information over to the select committee on friday. you will remember, thursday, tomorrow, is veterans day, so the archives are going to be closed. >> that's right, so there's a chance trump's lawyers could use the delay to block the disclosure? >> no doubt about it. they asked the documents to be sealed while they appealed. >> we will wait and see. thank you so much, scott. >>> it's 6:06 right n