darman, the immigration minister here to criticize the british saying that that there was a labor market that was all wrong and that the people here were wanting to engage in, in casual work in the u. k. something that is available a lot. now it because of bricks it so this, this trading of woods between the 2 countries accusing each other of allowing this situation has not died down completely in lo love loss between france and britain right now, relations rock bottom for a number of issues. some of them related to bricks it, but right now the situation tragic though it is, it may of course shock, but it could have been avoided. and really there's nothing to say that situations like this can happen again as things stand. okay then andrew simmons, they're in cali. it is just 33 kilometers as the crow flies to the southeast coast of england on the other side of the channel pole. brennan is there for us in dover poll. tell us what you've been. thing since the morning. well, the sunshine is somewhat beguiling, i think because the bitter cold from the north wind certainly gets into the bones