smithsonian as a whole i think thinks about that with you, helps you think about it, shows you the story, as dwan's mentioning, and tells it over time. i think the context is really important. that conversation and that context is what i try to help people focus on and see it for themselves, and see it and hear it in this case, up close and firsthand. and if you know the music, you know it's layered. and how do you experience it? how do we see it in relation to each other? i think that's the important aspect of the music and the anthology. ms. givhan: dr. reece, can you talk a little bit about the point at which, you know, there's this incredible broadening of hip-hop, and you know, it really becomes the popular--the popular music? and you start to see--i'm presuming you sort of start to see this with the arrival of someone like vanilla ice, who makes an appearance in the anthology, and then it moves on. i will let you defend the presence of vanilla ice. dr. reece: well, let me say this. and we teased out part of the playlist a couple years ago, and there were still a lot of responses about that. b