betsy johnson. during the 2016 campaign, betsy was doing interviews. you know what those are like. tell us about your friend hillary, what do you do together and on and on. at one point betsy said one thing we have done since we were little girls as we love to read and we trade books back and forth and we talk about them. the reporter followed up and said what are you reading now. total serendipity, the greatest luck that i could have, betsy says we are reading the latest demolish series. that article was picked up by louise's publisher and the publisher saw that betsy and i had read louise and i will let you take it from there. >> and then my publicist said would you like to meet hillary clinton's best friend betsy who reads your books. in that she says, oh, by the way, hillary does, to. i think i passed out for a moment. i was actually launching that book in chicago, hillary's hometown where betsy still lives. many of whom i think have tuned in today. so, i met betsy backstage before an event. it was one of those moments where we meet a lot of people, everybody does, but when you

together and then inn july 2019, betsy passed away, strong fight with breast cancer. there is a sweet and poignant and incredible profoundly sad that we had a memorial service and content was asked to speak and i spoke and then louise penny met so many of our friends at betsy and i had for 70 years and it just became kind of a rolling caravan of friendship. and he often said that betsy was so genius of bringing people together and connecting them so fast forward a endorsing of 2019 in early 2020, our respective agents approached us individually about perhaps collaborating in a political thriller. by then we had become very good friends and loved her as a friend but also admired her writing and i was pretty apprehensive. even writing fiction for a long time stacey and amphetamine that nonfiction world i have to fact checked an inch of his life in orting the summaries going to find it. out of place and then so i was concerned until my agent lawyer in and we talked about it maybe we could see whether it's possible and then began to face him because of course we were movi

in july 2019, betsy passed awayl and lost her long fight with breast cancer. it was so sweet and poignant and incredibly profoundly sad we had a memorial service. luis was asked to speak and i spoke and through that meant the friends we had for so many years and become a caravan of friendship and i often say betsy had a genius, connecting them so fast forward toward the end of 2019, early 2020, our respective agents approached us individually collaborating on a political thriller. by then, we become good friends. i admired her writing, i was pretty apprehensive. you've been writing fiction for a long time, i'm in the nonfiction world in fact check everything within an inch of its life and worry somebody is going to find it. out of place so i was kind of concerned and told myed agent lawyer and then we actually talked about it. we thought maybe we could see whether it's possible. and began facetime me because we were moving into thee pandemic around that time so our best ideas going to a spot in writing this book never passed because we were stuck in our houses

in july of 2019, betsy passed away and lost her long fight with breast cancer. it was so sweet and poignant and incredibly profoundly sad that we had a memorial service. louise was asked to speak and i spoke and louise met so many friends that we had, betsy and i for years. it just became kind of a rolling caravan of friendship. i often say that betsy had such a genius for friendship, bringing people together and connecting them. fast forward went towards the end of 2019, early 2020, our respective agents approached us, individually, perhaps about collaborating on a political thriller. by then we had become very good friends. i loved her as a friend and admired, obviously, her writing. i was pretty apprehensive. you had been writing fiction for a long time. i was in the nonfiction world. you fax check everything. worried somebody will find it. out of place. i was kind of concerned and told my agent lawyer and then louise and i actually talked about it and we thought, well, maybe we could see whether it is possible and then began the face timing. of course, we we

betsy, let me start with you on stone. i may be recalling this incorrectly but i think stop the steal was a phrase that stone was using in the run-up to the 2016 election sort of prophylactically to discredit an anticipated hillary clinton win. and that has carried over and he was really central to the stop the steal drumbeat in 2020 and always around the kind of orbit of trump. how do you -- i guess you're not surprised by the subpoena, but how would you characterize his role as we know it so far? >> it's a good question. stone is part of this constellation of far right media personalities who sort of feed on the notoriety that they experience and are almost indefatiguable in terms of any press over the activity they have engaged in over the course of their professional lives. alex jones is in this category, steve bannon is in this category. they are people that are not formally part of trump's companies or part of his campaigns or the administration that he ran but that are close enough by association that they can engag

joining me, politico national correspondent betsy woodruff swann, punchbowl founder jake sherman, and nbc legal analyst carol lamb. good to see all of you. betsy, there is an argument to be made at the very least that trump's comments to jon karl are callous, at worst maybe incriminating potentially in a court of law, defending his supporters when they chant "hang mike pence." what do you make of that interview and does it tell us anything potentially about what might be in those records he so desperately wants to keep from congress? >> it's as ton-ishing audio. but it's also very much consistent with the way that trump has talked about the january 6th attacks. one message he's been saying repeatedly is the actual insurrection was election day and what happened on january 6th wasn't necessarily an attack. he's trying to sort of rearrange verbiage there to try to downplay the gravity and the horrific violence that played out that day. so him suggesting that this "hang mike pence" chant was a reasonable response to pence following his basic constitutional duties is -- for trump it's ver

. >> betsy let me start with you on stone. i remember maybe recalling, this but i think stop the steal was a phrase that stone was using in the run up to the 2016 election sort of prophylactically to discredit and anticipated hillary clinton win. and that has carried over, and that was really central to the stop the steal drunk beat in 2020. and always around the kind of orbit of trump. how do you, i mean i guess you're not surprised, but how would you characterize his role as we know with so far? >> it is a good question, stone is part of this constellation of's far-right media personalities who sort of feed off of the notoriety d that they experience and are always in fattah kabul in terms of pressed revealing the actual activity. they have engaged in over the course of their professional lives. of course, stone, alex jones is in this category, steve bannon is in this category to your point. there are people who are not formally part of trump's companies or part of his campaigns, or his administration that he. ron but that a

ali, betsy and carlos, thank you for getting us started on this story. we're monitoring all these moving pieces on the hill this hour. we'll bing you any updates if we get them including any interesting remarks from kevin mccarthy or the speaker. >>> air force one took off moments ago and selling the infrastructure plan for a second day in a row at the opening of a new gm plan in detroit. the legislation gets millions of dollars in funding as an investment into the electric vehicle market. >>> but up next, the bad guys are winning. those words from one historian who is warning about the rise of historian leaders not just abroad. but right here at home. you're watching "meet the press daily." bogeys on your six, limu. they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis under control? hide our skin? not u

romaine: betsy stephenson. we are still waiting on president biden who is scheduled to speak about some of the issues going on with the economy, particularly the supply chain issue and how that feeds into inflation. hang tight for one second, we are actually watching president biden walking out right now. he is at the dakota county technical college in rosemount, minnesota. he is expected to deliver remarks. if you are still with us, we will keep an eye here on president biden. i am curious if you could talk about supply chain issues and how that factors into the inflation picture and whether there needs to be a reaction to that. >> one of the things we are seeing is that people are out there buying goods at a very high rate. as opposed to services. we have been cooped up with the pandemic for so long and we want new cars and couches. we want new stuff. we are still hesitant to go to restaurants and shows and do things in person. the inflation is coming from that real surge in demand to buy stuff at the same ti

betsy, great to have you back with us today. obviously education is the center of your professional life. as you listen to this debate here and listen to the moms discussing it and you see what is driving this election here in virginia, what is going through your mind today? >> well, i'm very encouraged. because i hear parents who are engaged and who want to be empowered to know and understand what their kids are learning, to have the ability to choose what -- where they kids learn, how their kids learn and, you know, for 30 years, i've been advocating for parental empowerment. in fact, the last 1 1/2 years i've predicted that parents were going to eventually revolt when they learned what their kids were or were not learning during the lockdowns. this campaign in this race in virginia is really bringing into focus all of these issues that for decades actually have been building an accumulating. i'm very encouraged for the future of kids and education because of this moment. >> martha: so it's interesting that terry mcauliffe bro

betsy, this is your great reporting. take us through the two pieces of the kerric story. >> this certainly looks like an uncomfortable error on the part of the january 6th select committee. and their subpoena letter they sent to kerik they cited bob woodward and bob kossa's book as well as other supporting evidence to claim they believe kerik was at this january 6th meeting. but his lawyer went to the book and found it didn't refer to kerik at all. that appears to be an error on the part of the committee. he was in new york dealing with a family medical emergency emergency. and he is demanding an apology. at the same time, what is interesting is almost in the same breath kerik continues and says he wants to comply with the subpoena. his compliance would be a big deal. he have shoulder-to-shoulder with rudy giuliani at the infamous 4 season's total landscape and press conference when july jewel pushed a bunch of the notable allegations about voter fraud which of course have not played out whatsoever. and kerik worked on t

did you learn anything new in this letter, betsy? >> i don't know that there is a ton of new material in the flynn letter, in part because what happened that day leaked like you said almost in real time because even in an administration where there was a lot of pretty wacky stuff happening in the oval office, that meeting on december 18th that flynn was in is possibly the most astounding and extraordinary meeting that happened in the oval office during the trump presidency, which is an extremely high bar to meet. part of the reason, i think, that it looked so quickly and there was so much detailed reporting on that meetly very shortly after it happened was because the people who knew about it who weren't the participants calling for the martial law and seizing voting machines were worried about what was going to unfold. flynn of course was deeply involved not just on december 18th but all the way up through january 5th. he gave an incendiary speech in washington where he talked how the number of people who voted illegally was similar

. >> betsy, explain something to me. to walk in and say i would like to not talk to you for nine sects, not 9 minutes. >> i obtained and politico just published a multipage letter that jeff clark's new lawyer wrote and addressed to the head of the committee. in this her, the lawyer lays out a real head scratcher for the legal theory as to why he doesn't have to answer the committee's question. it said that clark and other doj officials could actually testify, that letter from trump world august 7th specifically said trump would not take steps to block clark and other senior officials from playing ball. however, clark and his lawyers have taken a slightly tortured read of that letter and are trying to say because some circumstances are difference, because of steps the committee has taken, they're trying to say clark doesn't have to participate. my expectation is that letter would would be a key conversation topic in those 90 minutes. clark parted ways with his lawyers about two weeks ago, brought in a new lawyer, a guy na

betsy swan has been covering this. barbara mcquade is the co-host of the sisters-in-law podcast. they join me now. barbara, let me start with you on the order from the federal judge yesterday. basically, the white house waived executive privilege for the documents. they told the national archive to turn them over. trump lawyers sued and said you can't do that. she said, yes, they can. what do you think about her reasoning in the opinion? >> i think her reasoning is very solid, chris. what she says is, it's the current president, the sitting president, who gets to decide whether something should be disclosed or not under executive privilege. a prior president does have a residual interest. that president can go to the current president and ask for or make a recommendation as to whether executive privilege should be asserted. at the end of the day, the decision belongs to the sitting president. as the judge said in this opinion, the plaintiff is no longer the president. he is not a king. he does not retain this power. the current president has the power. he has said, we should turn

and betsy, we should, say there is a huge sort of swath of folks that have been subpoenaed. not all of them will go that. road and there are some who are going to cooperate with an area of protests. >> sure, the committee has said that of all people, mark meadows, and cash hotel, two very dedicated -- to try to argue an executive privilege when they didn't need to engage. they are very much potentially charting a path for other trump loyalist to have some sort of permission structure to at least engage with this committee and not to totally rejected. the fact that jeff clark showed up in person, and hung up for 90 minutes with committee members last week, he didn't answer the questions, he didn't give them what they want, he in self may still face come ten, but the fact that he was there in person, with his lawyers, and dialogue with him a little bit, even distinguishes him from bennett. at that is the kind of thing that doj prosecutors might consider. how much respect are these witnesses showing to the committee, are they having any pretense of taking it seriously. so, i th

joining me now is betsy woodrough swan. good morning. what are you hearing about what's happening next on this committee? >> what we are keeping an eye out for is whether or not thompson issues a subpoena of john eastman, who you described earlier, who is a key figure here. of course, one other key plot that we saw unfold last week was jeff clark, who you showed on screen, saying that he would refuse to cooperate. clark showed up for an interview. but according to thompson wouldn't answer any questions. in fact, i obtained a letter that clark and his lawyer have delivered to the committee trying to make a bit of a head scratcher of a legal argument as to why clark thinks he, for whatever reason, doesn't have to comply with this lawful subpoena. in fact, what's particularly weird about this letter is that clark cited a different letter that trump sent to him in august where trump actually said that he would not try to block clark from testifying. clark is in a really odd spot here. the committee expects they will have significant leverage

thank you betsy, harry. when we come back, again, federal voting rights legislation stuck in the senate. what will it take for democrats to drop the filibuster and pass urgently needed legislation that protection democracy? we will ask senator hi ropo where democrats are a at this hour. the president taking a lesson from tuesday night ahead. after tuesday, how has pressure shifted? our political panel weighs in. >>> and vaccines for kids are here. so is the disinformation. we will debunk some of the myths for parents trying to do what is right for their kids and block out the noise. all those stories and more when "deadline: white house" continues after this. ouse" continues after this ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. to unveil them to the world. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i nee

joining me now is betsy woodruff swann, a national correspondent for politico. let's start with where i started. donald trump's appeals to the court to prevent the january 6th panel from obtaining certain documents. where does that stand? >> we're expecting developments on this at some point this week. the judge who is supervisoring the case, judge carl nichols, has opted not to expedite that process or not to slow down that process. he could have taken some procedural stems that would have made that case move more slowly, but it's actually not happening. that's something that we're going to be tracking very closely. of course, this broader question of whether or not the court is able to consider whether or not the select committee actually has to access the documents is a really key question here. trump and his lawyers are telling the court that they believe the materials that the select committee is asking for aren't necessary for the committee to legislate. but the committee is saying, first, those materials are necessary, but second, it's up to congress to d

betsy woodruff swann with politico. and robert gibbs is the former white house press secretary under the obama administration. robert, let me start with you. look, the president has been out there. he's been talking about the good news in the economic recovery. he's counting on build back better. and now you have the markets reacting to this thing that we don't know a lot about right now, but a lot of folks in europe, south africa, the w.h.o, react quickly. the dow down right now 925 points. how worried should the white house be? >> well, chris, i have no doubt that the white house yesterday and the covid team probably did a series of conference calls around this new information. they've briefed the white house and the president, i'm sure, today on it. look, there's no doubt that they were going to watch this and monitor it. a lot of the things that we're doing already, we should continue to do. we should push vaccinations, we should push boosters. we should ramp up testing. figuring out all of those things. i think whe

for now, sorry to cut it short, betsy, but i do have to wrap you. great to see you, my friend, and appreciate you joining us this hour. >>> that wraps it up for me this hour. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back here tomorrow at 3:00 a.m. eastern. reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation" begins right now. >>> good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, halfway there. right now i'm cautiously optimistic again. my hope is that it was all worth it, the months of negotiations, the other priorities diverted, and, of course, this unity among democrats. that continued nearly into last night's historic vote to pass the president's $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure

let's go to betsy in california. betsy. >> caller: hey, jim. it's good to hear from you again. >> thank you >> caller: yeah, i have your action alerts. i've been following you for years and years. jim, here's my question. second home sales are up 42% actually in california they're up even more than that which is surprising to me but they are. large items in terms of home buyers are up 42%. >> okay. >> caller: given that, is it conceivable that our age whose chart looks horrible can meet the 16.73% over the prior third years results? they haven't missed once i'm woerndsi wondering if you tk friedman can do it >> we don't want to be trapped by the quarter it's the cnbc investment club. it's a little different. it's better. we're taking the shut down off the table. a slowdown is likely we'll let you say this, a whole bunch of bull markets in slowdown if last friday was as bad as it gets when it comes to the spread of omnicron, some stocks could benefit from a true market bounce on black friday, peak sales at 3.1 million across this worldwide. i'm

betsy, let me go to you here. because i really want to bring home a point that leanne manage. these are not like tangential tertiary players to donald trump's scene, right, in january and december -- december and january of this past year? i mean, jason miller very close, very inner circle for donald trump. bill stepien ran the campaign, john eastman, michael flynn, involved intimately reportedly in the conversations that were happening right around the time of the riots. talk about the significance of these slate of names as you see it. >> reporter: no question. this is a group of people who are both very close to what the trump operation was that day, but also who don't likely have any of the executive privilege protections that some of these former trump world folks have about able to claim. >> good pint. >> reporter: jason miller a campaign official and bill stepien a campaign official and angela mccullum, a name new to a lot of folks but a really interesting person on this list. these are people who are very unlikely to be able to say that their relationship with the pres

betsy woodruff swan is here of politico and msnbc contributor. also with us, luke broad water, and harry litman. luke, this is your reporting. take us through it. >> hi, yes. nicole, in recent weeks the january 6th committee has really ramped up its efforts, especially this week. we've seen now 35 subpoenas go out, 16 of those were just in the past two days. we have seen more than 150 witnesses come in. we have seen new investigators be hired. in fact, i believe the whole investigative team is now in place. and so they are really -- in the first couple months of the committee, they felt like they were sort of building the plane as they were flying. now they feel like they have their whole team in place, they have a strategy, they have different assignments for different investigators, and they are really getting moving now. and i think your seeing that this week with this latest round of subpoenas. >> you know, in reading your reporting, luke, i was reminded of the mueller probe which was split into -- andrew weismann was working on the outside t

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betsy, what is this latest round of subpoenas from the january 6th committee? tell us about where its investigation is heading. >> it shows that they're looking not just at what happened before the january 6th attack, but also at the people who were directly involved in the violence that unfolded that day. it shows what the committee is looking at is starting to seriously overlap with doj's criminal investigations. the justice didn't, two of the biggest, most complex, host high stake prosecutions in its january 6th probe relate to the oath keepers and the proud boys, the far right groups who have been subpoenaed by the january 6th select committee. the justice department has brought cases alleging leaders of both organizations were conspireing to plan and then participate in the attack on the capitol building that day. one leader of one of those organizations, enreek toro is currently incarcerated. he was arrested two days before the january 6th attack. and is now serving a six-month prison sentence in d.c. jail for burning a black lives matter flag from a chur

it does seem, though, betsy, this is a no-win situation for the january 6 committee. on one hand they have to draw a line and say, you can't just ignore us, but at the same time bannon is making himself into a martyr, and if he does end up going to jail over this, paying a fine for this, he doesn't have to testify or reproduce those documents. >> that's right. the select committee is almost certainly not going to get what they want from bannon. this prosecution is important because it sends a signal to all the other witnesses who are currently on the fence about whether or not to comply with subpoenas, that if they violate subpoenas they could face the same thing. even though for bannon, this type of moment in the sun is, to your point, something he has historically reveled in, there are other folks that have paid, mid-level staffers that don't necessarily want their future governed by trump incorporated who simply wouldn't have this same type of relish in the way they would experience, a criminal indictment and prosecution. so it really does send a signal that the co

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chief spokesperson for the justice department matt miller, and national correspondent for politico, betsy woodruff swan. thank you so much for being here this evening. matt, i'll start with you, count me in the group of people who are extremely frustrated with the department of justice that steve bannon has not been brought in a black and white striped outfit in shackles. it seems they are moving very slowly on many of these prosecutions. we are told occasionally by department of justice they are crossing t's and dotting i's, what is taking so long on bannon, and if this is how long it takes on somebody clearly in contempt, what can we expect down the road as more information comes forward from the committee. >> i think what you have to remember about doj is this is a place before they decide where to go to lunch, 25 lawyers have to write a memo laying out their opinion, and have three or four meetings. it is a nano second in d. o.j. time, the way they usually go about making decisions. there are complicated issues that they have to work through before making the decision. i think they do

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i saw a bar betsy, but infiltrated. they had plans to dress up and look like some supporters. they are never seen the united states so divided in the political agendas that people have. oh and it's a very serious problem to many of us. we'd like to focus on why are people violating our laws and in particular, the constitution street, ah, this division in our society has been boiling for a long time. it's not that trump. oliver's son brought this division on. it's the fact that they now have a strong, strong republican who has been able to move things that they want to just blame him for everything that has gone wrong. ah, all the people have, my personal opinion is when you're part of any country, you need to understand there are responsibility. it's not all about rights to belong. we have elections that are supposed to be run a certain with one of the major problems with the current situation is that the people in power worked to make sure that more ballots were put in volks, for that particular candidate than the other camp. and so would that be considered fraud? yes. you he

know, i went to city college and fourth and mission in san francisco under the chefs ria, marlene and betsy. they are proud of me. i don't want to leave them out of the journey. everyone works hard. they are very supportive and passionate about what they do, and they all have one goal in mind for the bayview to survive. >> all right. it is time to eat, people. welcome to the november 15th, 2021, regular meeting of the land use and transport committee. i'm supervisor melgar joined by supervisor preston and supervisor peskin. the clerk today is erica major and i would like to acknowledge the folks at sfgov tv for staffing the meeting. thank you. >> clerk: minutes will reflect on participation through this meeting, public access to city services is essential and we invite pubc

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film directing duo julie cohen and my friend former "nightline" producer betsy west have profiled some of the most barrier-breaking women. the two making a name for themselves with their oscar-nominated documentary "rbg." >> we were looking for another revolutionary feminist game changer. >> reporter: and just like ruth bader ginsburg julia had a secret weapon. >> she had her husband. >> backing her every step of the way. >> what's better than a husband who's ready to support his woman in personal life and also in career? even to the point in paul child's case where his wife has kind of eclipsed him. >> reporter: she married paul child and moved to france. >> first you need a big sole, thick fillet. >> reporter: where she had the meal that would change her life. >> it is absolutely delicate. it's one of the finest things in life. >> reporter: sole meunier. that first bite igniting her passion for french cuisine. >> our first meal in france was just a great awakening to me. >> reporter: from there it was off to culinary school at le cordon bleu in paris. a discipline dominated by men. >

my name is betsy fischer martin, i'm the director of the politics institute at new york university. and a faculty member as well. we have quite the panel with us today. we just heard a lot on the democratic side, we are going to jump into the republican and of -- end of things. and we have democrat, for good one measure. [laughter] you did not get lost joel, you are supposed to be on this panel. joel has been a long time pollster for the obama campaign, the clinton campaign, has good insight into what is going on with the electorate. we are fortunate to have him with us today. next to him, elise jordan, you probably recognize from her role as a political analyst on nbc and msnbc. and a contributor for time. and also used to work in the bush administration, had a lot of insight on republican strategy. and that former rnc chairman and former lieutenant governor of maryland who might be back in the politics sometime? and long time republican communication strategist in the white house and congress. let's start first with a little bit from your perspective. we spoke a lot with the earli

let's bring in our host of "way too early," jonathan lemire and betsy woodruff swan. great to have you all on this hour. dave, we'll start with you, what's next for steve bannon and how does that work? with mark meadows, is it for sure that he faces the same fate? good morning mika. well, he's going to show up for court today to turn himself in as steve bannon will probably not do a curve walk. it's a misdemeanor. it's punishable for up to a year. if he's convicted, he's serving jail time. this is low-hanging fruit, this is an easy one for doj, he refused to offer testimonies, he didn't show up at all. i mean that's why it took 38 years to have another case like this. his behavior was especially egregious and for mark meadows, not only they have bad judgment to follow the steve bannon model but bad timing. this is like the kind of guy that cancels his homeowner insurance a day before the hurricane forms in the atlantic. as joe says you don't get to have executive privilege to cover up the conspiracy especially one to overthrow the government. this was low-hanging frui

various palestinian factions have banded together to condemn the you case push for the ban on hamas. betsy bought a holiday. hammers will obama at her, via, we condemn the unjust british decision to consider hamas a terrorist organization and a firm that it's a political decision and a continuation of the flagrant aggression against our people. and it's a resistance. the british decision aims to gain the approval design a sloppy, in light of the escalation and growth of popular support in many european countries for palestinian people and their right to resist occupation. we have a lot to unpack with our panel of guests, but 1st this report by humans said in gossip reactions continued against the british government's decision considering come as a tourist movement. hamas issued a statement denouncing the decision and seeing that the british home secretary pretty patel decision is a support of the aggressors at the expense of the victims. while freidman stood mohammed this to ya, rejected the british. a decision to classify had met as a tourist movement and considered it a motive to crimina

a wide ranging look at jobs and the economic recovery plan with former obama labor chief economist betsy stevenson. then. >> the investments he will be game changing. it won't add a to inflation. if anything, it will bring inflation down. >> u.s. labor secretary marty walsh tells walter isaacson why the build back better agenda will release pressure on working america. >>> from warsaw with love. i speak to former "washington post" reporter about his new book on the cia's unlikely alliance with polish

. >> reporter: we met his wife tabitha and two oldest children betsy and devin on the national mall where they hope one day a memorial to his sacrifice will stand. >> it's been 20 years. and everyone keeps talking about "we will always remember." this is how we remember them. >> reporter: the efforts to build a national global war on terrorism memorial wasb authorized by congress in 2017. it will be built with private donations and three sites on the national mall have been proposed, allowing the remembrance of our longest war to share hallowed ground with memorials to our founding fathers, world war ii, korea and vietnam. >> this has been our nation's longest war. >> reporter: iowa senator johnny ernst a republican and magaziney are leading an effort to mandate the memorial be built on the mall. at least 54 other senators are also on board. getting agreement across the aisle shouldn't be hard. >> exactly. when you think about our veterans, men and women who serve don't ask each other what political party they are in as they go into danger on behalf of their fellow americans. they work to

ah, ah, ah, lo, i'm fully betsy boy in doha with a look at our main stories on al jazeera. if he appears prime minister abbey made has left the capital and is heading to the front line to lead his troops in battle to graham rebels are edging closer to the capital, addis ababa. the united nations has ordered the immediate evacuation of its international staff and kenya and south africa have called for a ceasefire. if european journalist samuel get a chew has more from out his hubbub, he said that on monday night, by tuesday, according to the your band communication head, mr. la garza to lu, he'd the prime minister is, has it indeed left the capital has transfer transfer to his power to his deputy demeka mcclendon. and he is in the battle ground again. he has been saying if your bends are willing to go a distance, he said we're going to fight and be here said with our bones and blood he i said, and in the meantime the president of ethiopia are lower. zonati has tweeted earlier today saying she was heart broken by what's happening in ethiopia, and that it should be resolved. t