but over the year years, nato has reduced the axis all russia to the nato headquarters in brussels than it is longer notification before they come. limited access once they're inside the headquarters. and these restrictions soon undermine the corporation to undermine tra, trust, building, and subjected the russian delegation, jewish emulation. so this time around nato, expelled several of from the russian delegation and thus reducing their stuff enough. and there's no indication of relations improving in the foreseeable future . so one asset question then, what's the point of keeping the mission if the mission itself undermines is on purpose? and if i can just quickly, i would also that, that nato russia council was supposed to be an instrument for diplomacy. also during difficult times, that's when you need diplomacy the most. but then the 1st time there was a conflict with the georgia war in 2000 eights, natal temporarily suspended corporation in the counsel until relation. we're back on track. so this kind of behavior from nato us continued over time and can reveal to remark that pol

russian foreign minister sergey lavrov says nato is not interested in cooperation nato . >> nato is not interested in equitable dialogue and joint work. if that is the case, we don't see the need to keep returning that changes in the foreseeable future are possible, because nato has already stated about the impossibility of such changes. hashem: germany's foreign minister heiko mass, says russia's move will pose further serious strain on relations. >> that makes everything even tougher, and things are already difficult. in recent years, germany has repeatedly pushed for dialogue within russia over the past years. we have often convened the nato-russia council to show that we are in dialogue. this will prolong the difficult situation we're in. this frosty period that's been going on for some time and i think that especially within nato where there are military questions and where there are security questions that is anything but helpful. this will put a further serious strain on relations. hashem: several disputes have frayed ties between nato and russia and some have led to sanctions. m

u. nato. even i am, is the main reason for the disunity that we say of course and, and that's to be of the, to be expected. after all, as you say, geopolitics is about the national interests of countries or interest groups, as such as nato. and the problem is when nato's interest, for example, are not aligned to it, it's member states. and, and of course, if it's main interest is its own self promotion and self existence. then of course that's very rarely going to align with a, with the national, especially economic interests of its members and ideology. a problem with that is it can be so easily hijacked for further it's of specific, a more pragmatic causes, for example, to poison relations. i think what's very important hits, remember, as a backdrop to this program, perhaps is a bit more context and something that also has a bearing on this issue of where national interest lies that for many european countries and for argued before, oh, you open all of the west, it's got to be remembered tha

more sharing within nato. the me remind you that in september, 2014, that was during the obama administration, we decided all nato allies should live up to the so-called 2% target. that is, they should invest at least 2% of their gdp and their defense. at that time, only three allies did so. trump stepped up the rhetoric, and he almost threatened european countries come in today, we, i would say, around have of the lado -- nato allies live up to the 2% target. i have no doubt that the biden administration will continue that kind. host: the rhetoric from president donald trump was successful as the nato countries increased their contributions. guest: during the trump administration we strengthened the nato militarily, because nato allies increased investments in difference. -- defense. president trump raised doubts about his commitment to the famous g5. in the nato treaty, it states that we consider an attack on one an attack on all. president trump raised doubts as to whether he would come to the aid of an all

either nato or russia need. well, that is the thing. russia saith expansion of nato infrastructure into neighboring ukraine. would be a red line on a threat to its national security forcing it to take action. i serious scanty think this could get look. busy there has been talks, you know, with ukraine about creating the conditions in which exceptions can be made to normal nato. a processes are normally a nation that is undergoing the kind of internal strife that ukraine is, is not, does not qualify for natal membership. all borders have to be secure, there can be no internal conflict. and of course ukraine is a nation beset by internal cause a conflict. so there's talk right now vogue. busy maybe letting ukraine in recognizing only the borders of the areas that are outside of conflict as having an article 5 of protection. but this is, this is again, going in the wrong direction. russia won't allow it. and nato needs to understand that if they make an effort to bring ukraine in, russia will take action. and you k

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nato membership is the key to you membership. that's the, it's always nato, 1st than you. and this is what is going on here. also we're creating a slippery slope and moral hazard year because the lens is getting more and more reckless with his actions and his language. and he's being encouraged by washington . well, the european members of nate know, are much more cautious. go ahead, finish office sports. yeah, that's, that's exactly right. and that's why this became a moral, has lived when you have nato. and you have lloyd austin telling me, flat out, hey, the road to nato is open for you. how are they gonna respond? it's up to us to start generating all kinds of crises. so washington and those around is that right? this nato is the solution to your problem. and this is why is the nato have the auction that going to say, look, we're just saying out of this, it's up to you to better relations with your neighbors may. does it not to do that . instead, they do is completely aggravating the problem by essentially promising a membership of nato and the you down the road. and i

and it's all about nato here. i mean, if they, if they to, i knew and was sent to try. deuce get a dialogue going on the, the actions of the secretary of defense say something completely different. i mean, no wonder rush, it is through its arms up in the air. i mean, is there a coherent policy here because it doesn't, it's not coherent. why have a dialogue go ahead? i've been in washington. well, of course are you where you're pointing to contradictions and maybe that's the purpose of the policy. maybe to show a little toughness cuz even if you're practicing the diplomacy, newland is probably not the person, the sand. ah, you know, on a diplomatic chip and that part of the country is if you want to improve relations . so, ah, perhaps it both the defense secretary of visit van and the new and visit are, are designed to show toughness. i'm to russia, at least initially in my mind, our policy, when you're talking about the recent development, which of course you do for sure like this, but i think you have to go back

busy to nato's action by russia is going to come as a surprise to nato. no, i think, i mean, every specialist, no, every expert knows here that this is part of the diplomatic ballet. you know, i wonder our problems issues of course, that, that the core issues are really the crew may i issue. i mean, that was ga us since 2014 the relations f f on been not frozen, but have diminished loc between russia and nato, which is sort of normal. so it will last for a long time decade. i mean, russia has no intention of leaving cri max may suppression. i mean, most people also know it here, this side. so. so again, it's a diplomatic ballet and i think that will continue talking. does it escalate though? what, what do you think the response from nato will be? is it more talking or will it be action? i don't think there will be more action. that's simple. they, they expelled a diplomat. no rush or response. that's it. and so they will continue. maybe that will be more decorations, but i don't expect name to a to me to mean big decorations about that. perhaps just a lin

it's a permanent mission to nato. this is all a response to the alliance, kicking out several rush, diplomats allegedly for spying artesia, roman coke roth has the story brush and foreign minister made the announcement on monday saying that says starting on november 1st. moscow will completely suspend the operations of its mission to nato, and from now on any emergency communications between the he was lead block and russia will be done through the russian embassy in belgium. while an ambassador off a native member states in moscow chosen by the allies, can perform similar functions here in russia. so this guns, just 2 weeks after nato announced that it would expel a russian diplomats for a legend of this close espionage at its brussels headquarters. and that should be in effect on the 1st of november as well. well, according to the russian foreign ministry, it became yet another move on nato's behalf to use the so called russian threats as a unifying factor for the alliance. and another reason to remain in internatio

of nato. and it's all, and it comes at a very interesting time with under secretary of state for political affairs, victoria newland, and her visit. most recent visit to moscow in which i understand from my sources, that it was a rather contentious to day meeting with the moscow officials at the highest levels and, and in demand. so that, that we're impose not only by her but, but now by moscow on her. and it could potentially have an impact on, on the future diplomatic relationship between the united states and moscow in terms of what of a diplomatic downgrade. and that is put potentially in the cards as well. and so this is all heightened up and you know, you got lloyd, you have, you had lloyd austin in, in georgia, which borders on russia just just there and trying to excite the georgians and give them a false promise that they will be able to increase their military assistance and, and, and undertake military maneuvers. well, that's exactly what happened back in 2008 when the suckers reall

nato military liaison mission in moscow. after the alliance recalled the accreditation of 8 russian diplomats in brussels, we're commenting on nato's newly unveiled strategy. the credit spokesman said the blocks confrontational tone, proves that moscow was right to sabbath. there was no need for dialogue under these conditions and nato's new concept just goes to prove it. russia hasn't been under any illusions regarding nato. we know what to raise on to hatcher of this alliances . this alliance was not created for peace. who was created for confrontation, kayla suffering, a former austrian foreign minister. karen, can he still welcome back to our, to eager to happy with this? i'll these calls for a nuclear deployment, a sign of escalating tensions between nato and russia. how bad do you think it is at the moment behind closed old while we are now in the 8 years of batch relations . and this is very unfortunate, and i would say old statement that you have just voted in your report, so don't contribute to an improvement. do yo

well, you know, the nato russia relation a sort of microcosm of russia, us relations now, and nato has been increasingly irrelevant. we've seen, you know, stuart and burn, desperate for attention desperate to be noticed, the by did ministration, has really not treated nato any more relevantly than the trump administration did. so i think what you're seeing really is a desperate for attention on one hand, and some be a little deeper on the other hand that we can get into. well, you're right. i think it's like, look, look, we're doing something, even though if it might be counterproductive to what the overall goal would be. but daniel, you know, do you think, you know, our package stated this was an, obviously because of the response to expulsion of russian diplomats. but i had to think back and you know, there's a pass between the 2 countries. do you think these years and i almost decades of accusations by nato countries which continue to be proven wrong and wrong time time again, without any apologies or reconciliation actually played a factor that this just might have been just the fi

this is what nato is doing. so there is again, this, the dishonest of majors doing this artificially. and when they were the russians done around the say, well, we don't like what you're doing. well, we're, we're defensive. where defense, those no evidences defense. we know, you know, maybe you can solve it. how does that defensive going to sound? how is that defense? and also georgia, you and i've talked about elsewhere, is that specifically about your brain. nato membership is the key to e u membership. that's the, it's always nato 1st. then you and this is what is counting on here. also, we're creating a slippery slope and moral hazard gear because the lens is getting more and more reckless with his actions and his language. and he's being encouraged by washington . well, the european members of nate know, are much more cautious. go ahead, finish office once. yeah, that's, that's exactly right, and that's why this became a moral hazard. when you have nato, and you have lloyd austin telling me, flat out on the

another move on nato's behalf. so use the so called russian threats as a unifying factor for the alliance. and another reason to remain in international demand is here from the russian foreign minister. 0 explanation was given for the expulsions and a few days before the announcement we met with mister stilton burke in new york. he stressed that nato had a sincere interest in normalizing relations with russia, so as to deescalate tensions on the european continent. but we weren't particularly surprised by the decision. it all confirms that nato is uninterested in equal dialogue or join work. sir dale, i rove, added that the nato information bureau and moscow will also be shut down as a result. why? meanwhile, the nato international secretary at has already been notified and the russian foreign ministry statement added that it is not expecting any shift in relationship with nato. in the near future by me now to discuss is daniel mcadams, executive director at the ron paul is here. daniel, thank you so much for joini

when you have the nato and you have lloyd austin telling me, flat out, hey, the road to nato is open for you. how are they gonna respond? it's up to us to start generating all kinds of crises. so washington, and those around was, that was the, the nato, is the solution to your problem. and this is why is the, you know, nato have the option that going to say, we're just saying out of this, it's up to you to better relations with your neighbors. may, does it not to do that instead, nato is continually aggravating the problem by essentially processing the membership of nato and the d you down the road. and it's same thing in georgia. and so it is, it is an absolute has a to world peace. and what is happening is naples putting the sovereignty of ukraine and state. your general, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on real that same. oh join me every firstly on the alex silent. sure. and i'll be speaking to guess of the world politics. sport. business. i'm sure business. i'll see you then. mm. ah . ah, wel

the daughter nato membership is over for, you know, how the nato, the united states explained, rushes to respond to this way. obviously they go to respond with considerable trepidation which then show like dogs or are you saying you are right or aggressive? look at how there, mouthing of you grading in nature. no, i mean that the interesting thing is that it was on a tour. i think the secretary of defense is beginning, but there are why did you members of the nato alliance that moment are not seen on c, expansion of the alliance, the to include georgia in your crate. let me throw that in the right. because again, i mean is expansion, the goal is the status quo that go over the horizon. is that or is it just everything and nothing at the same time because basically they're continuing to search for reason to continue their existence. and we've just said on this program, 5 minutes and 31 seconds, then it's a number of things. ok. but ever since your purposes of the time and game at the same time you had to orient doing here, trying to in who relations are stopping to terry ation. and the

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to have this now public battle between russia and nato, a lot, and nato allies actually happening when everybody up until now for the last few weeks have been saying, we need to be very concerned about what's going on with china. whether you're talking about taiwan or you're talking about australia, well, you know, there was a kind of sclerosis in u. s. foreign policy, and i think we're seeing some of that as well. and this is, this is not something this driven by nato. i mean, this is driven in washington dc. there's an inability to pivot. there's an inability to change. we're still talking about territorial warfare. so talk to you about russia taking over something or trying to thinking over something. you know, there is no new thinking. washington, the thinking is driven by the military industrial complex. so it shouldn't be a surprise that we see yet again, this and, and, and tag in the, between the 2 countries re emerging. and daniel, i've asked this question before, i'm going to actually ask our audience to respond back on twitter right now. what good has nato actually done in th

because nato is looking for something to do. since water factors disappeared in that ninety's and the soviet union has disappeared. there is no actual reason for nato and the north atlantic defense to be there. so on the even day went to afghanistan to iraq, to train forces that still at the limit off the territory that they cover. but nowadays, there were speaking recently of indoor. busy pacific activities for nato rushes taken a major step forward in reading the north trimmed se pipeline to pump natural gas to millions of european homes. one of 2 sections, sections has now been filled to the required pressure level. so work is current and a way to fill the rest of the network, which links russia to germany via the volt exceed the pipeline still needs final approval from chairman regulators. cons as europe has grown by an energy crisis with gas prices recently at reco breaking levels, marshall the media has pointed the finger at russia for that despite moscow honoring his gas contract and promising to burst supplying out his c

are not helping nato's ah, the membership inside of nato, it's weakening the bonds. it's forcing countries towards transactional ism, rather than a grand strategy rather than a multilateral stands, doug, by the question, just a very few seconds. if you don't mind, he think franz has got to be comfortable with the us deal between at with grace. very few seconds. i think france is becoming much less and less comfortable with the u. s. encroaching on defense deals and areas that it feels it has a strong relationship with very diplomatically put use of our, of in his temple. thanks very much for joining us. hey, i'll have your next news after we head into russian wild far country, for most it means fleeing to safety. but there's one squad who drop right into the zone to save homes and habitat from destruction. you can learn how they do it next on r t international glue with, with, with us to point. but also within the daniel's polio with the basilica stores the other month. because melissa was assumable just needed to ask you about it because i just food say that even wh

, based in brussels, the belgian capital, but actually not at nato, not near nato headquarters in a completely different suburb of the city. after half of them, we're. busy we're actually expelled last week by nato. that obviously has good moscow and lever off the russian foreign minister says, all of nato's military and military, asian, and information offices in moscow are also to close down. so really not going in the right direction, but perhaps not a huge surprise. nato says it has taken note of love robes, comments, but hasn't actually been visually communicated or, or notified of these imminent steps. the background. of course, all this is worth sitting in relationship in the ration ship between nato and russia over many years. russia's foreign ministry says that the latest actions by nato confirmed they are not interested in an equal dialogue, a joint work to de escalate military political tensions. well, those tensions increase, of course in 2014, when russia annexed crimea from ukraine, when nato cut off practical cooperation. although they still have been some channels for high leve

well, nato has been looking for some sure destiny. in the absence when the, when the wall fell, i mean, they really, it's just plain inertia that they're still there. i mean, it's a real question about what they think they can do in such a place. i mean, it's not a naval power. it's a land power. everything was based on facing off with pressure. tank's artillery pieces missiles is not a weird, and therefore it would be a huge boon for the armaments industry as they try to figure out how they're going to get involved in asia. so it's, yes, it is. exactly. as you said, these are the echoes of gun boat policy. the, you know, policies are trying to set off asian neighbors against each other between india and china. and also just this whole colonial. busy is ation act it's, it's really is erie, how many people are in the u. s. and also you about the subject brand. i mean it's a, it's a truism that the u. s. arms industry always needs an enemy and it always needs threat inflation. and of course, china's in line now here. ok, i get that. ok,

vision of nato in brussels, said that nato needs to project itself into the indoor pacific region. i say what, you know, i, i don't understand this, this is not the north atlantic, is it? yeah, well i, it's go to our guest in beijing. i know i me, when i heard the same thing from the, the head of the, of nato. i mean, i was trained as a historian, modern european history, which includes the imperial period in colonization. and so europe wants to return to the, the pacific. i mean, the, it, you know, a history doesn't repeat, but there is an echo there. i mean, if i were beijing i, i wouldn't like that again. sounds very jingo is stick to me. and particularly since china is in what asia go ahead in beijing. well, nato has been looking for some sure destiny. in the absence, when the, when the wall fell, i mean they really, it's just plain inertia that they're still there. i mean, it's a real question about what they think they can do in such a place. i mean, it's not a naval power. it's a land power. everything was based on facing off with pressure. tank's artillery pieces missiles i

been under any illusions regarding nato. we know what the res, on the answer of this alliances, this alliance was not created for peace. it was created for confrontation, australia from a foreign minister, warning that nato hostilities making europe and even more dangerous place that the height of the cold war up we have heard from stalsen back and the german defense minister it's, it's the regulatory, sorry, it's their regular last sentence that you after statement, and of course we're open for dialogue, but that january dialogue hasn't been down for years. and in particular was regards to whiting additional countries. angel made sold this of course gifts which was sort of for the russian side. i won't be much more food. and if i were a nato official or a german at defense minister in, in, in making these sort of statements. because we are definitely in a situation where a certain things on the need a little step in order to, to, to, to walked the wrong direction. and we have seen over decades about what can be built up in

it's also closing all other nato related missions. nato accused the 8 members of being undeclared russian spies, russia foreign minister announced a retaliatory move and a media briefing earlier, while blaming nato for the worsening relations. will nurse practitioners we don't have proper conditions for basic diplomatic activities as a result of natal steps in response to nato's actions. we suspend the work of our permanent mission to nato, including the work of the chief military representative of starting from november. first, we will always speak to prevail, falcon, how're about this. he's a military analyst and also a columnist for no via gazette, or he's joining us via skype. from moscow, i saw a russia suspension of its mission could come into effect as early as november. first, according to the russian foreign minister. how does this really affect relations? have already been so tense between russia and ne, to, i mean they seized all practical corporation after the annexation of crimea. does this suspension change anything on the face of it? and formally, this is kind of fresh and

, because of nato's involvement, different conflicts and nato's interventions. and the russian region are close to the ratio and she has the right to, of course, defend and countered that kind of strategic influences. i think this tentative design which the, at the moment, you know, i tend to say that, but i think nato is looking for a new job because they are completely at the moment. whatever job they have initiated have been failed. actually looking. i've gone on in other countries. so in my personal view, this is a new study designed to engage negatively russia and try to get extra mileage and distraction from what they have done in afghanistan. and this, to me is a serious thing. well, i'd like to stay on the top of a topic of afghanistan, actually, what kind of implications do you think this is going to have for security in the country and also now that us troops are out of there? what is that gonna say about washington's influence in the region? i think to be honest influencer in the region, washington will not have any unless and until they really suppor

most concerned about nato's expansion towards its borders. not only through formal acceptance of new members, but also through some sort of informal corporation, most notably with ukraine in georgia. and i would suppose that now when native feels certain weakness with americans, leaving them in such your disregarding fashion, there will be some need for postering. would you expect that to come come up again with that you know, more courting of georgia and ukraine and perhaps even more pride practical steps in trying to draw them closer in people. i think we've seen that with general lloyd austin statements, you know, those are just statements at this point and wish before but will yes, but i mean, you know, they restate the commitment i don't think that the biden administration wants at the moment to, to actually increase those commitments in practice because after all, it means this is absolutely basic geo politics, if you're facing at least as uses the need for vastly increased commitments in asia against china. well, it really does not mak