. ♪ ♪ mark: hello america we have two great guests tonight senator josh hawley, helping to lead charge against tyranny. >> and christopher ruffo tonight it about liberty. your liberty. it about speech. you speech. your a freedom of association. about your school districts and your kids and the classroom and neighborhoods, all of whichm are under assault by the biden administration. specifically attorney general of the united states merrick garland and his department of justice, let's begin at the beginning. first amendment to constitution. you would think they would understand there at department of justice, congress shall make no law respecting an establishment a religion or prohibits free exercise there of -- >> >> to petition the government for redress of grievances. we're focused on free speech, freedom of association and petition the government for redress of grievances, the bill of rights is under attack by attorney general of the united states, merrick garland. and hisac staff. now we learned also under attack by joe biden's staff. and others at the white house. a coordinated at

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senator josh hawley asked someone about capitol hill today, here's part of it. >> is waiting to express one's view at a school board meeting harassment and intimidation? >> as the attorney general memoranda made quite clear, spirited debate is welcome, it's a hallmark of this country, it is something we all should engage in -- >> i don't think so. with all due respect, it didn't make it quite clear. it did not define those terms. nor did it define harassment and intimidation. >> tucker: that is the person, by the way, who actually runs the justice department and she's actually run by susan rice at the white house, who takes her direction from barack obama. just so you know how it actually works. senator josh hawley is the man you saw asking those questions, and we are happy to have him join us tonight. senator, thanks so much for coming on. this, if you take three steps back, appears to be a department of justice that is primarily concerned with ideological crimes and not actual violent crimes. >> you can imagine some things fbi agents could be doing like maybe going to the border where

senator josh hawley. missouri -- of all the things going wrong this country there is one bright red line. its vaccine mandates per the one thing congress is a ignoring. forcing people to take something they don't want in a case of a hundred million americans that they don't need against a virus they have natural protection from. if we allow that, there is no enzymatic to what we enforce. but if you people are fighting back, including a few well-known entertainers. country music star travis is one of them. he is a major announcement and joins us next. ♪ ♪ this. he joins us next. ♪ ♪ . ♪ ♪ >> tucker: here is something that is kind of sad but true. the overwhelming majority of people may dislike something but in real life, nothing really changes until powerful people stand up against it. that is why this is a significant story.y. country music star travis tritt has announced he is canceling any performance in any venue that mandates masks, requires covid vaccinations, or pushes unreasonable covid

senator josh hawley's not use to it. he represents misery in the united states senate and joins us tonight. senator, thank you so much for coming on. there is this weird phenomenon where you point out, wait, it wasn't always this way. you didn't have junkies living on school grounds when i was growing up. with the hell is this? and they look at you like are you crazy, it has always been this way. >> i think the lower your expectations, tucker, is really the slogan of the biden presidency. you talk about bringing back the old days, the 1970s, this is like reliving jimmy carter's worst year in office where we are told the american people are the problem. you are the problem. national malays, all the american people's fault. in fact, it is joe biden's fault and the terrible policies, he is trying to run -- he does not believe in it. we are a strong nation and it is time we started acting like it. >> tucker: the strength, i would assume, is in the population itself and if you watch people sit back as colonies of junkies livi

republican senator josh hawley is pushing back saying the federal government has provided no actual evidence of size and should stay at of these meetings where parents are just voicing their concerns. >> in the scathing letter on tuesday, senator josh hawley slamming attorney general merrick garland over a memo he issued monday night. directing the fbi and doj to identify and prosecute potential threats of violence and harassment coming from parents that might be opposing controversial policies like mask mandates and critical race theory. writing to the ag in part, "americans are speaking out against the radical racist ideologies sometimes called critical race theory. americans have responded to this radical ideology by winning elections for the local school boards and protesting peacefully at school board meetings. yet your mama yesterday to the fbi and local u.s. attorneys ignored all of this and warned of an insurgence of threats of violence and efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views." on tuesday, senator hawley grill deputy attorney general lisa monaco about the men mount

let's not forget josh hawley showing his support for the maga folks with his fist up. also both of these two losers in the senate, show ponies, were active supporters of a trump administration that attacked the national security establishment in other ways leaving key posts unfilled so power would be concentrated with people whose loyalty was to the donald rather than to the country. remember, key aspects of u.s. foreign policy were left in the hands of people like stephen miller, richard grenell and john ratcliffe. maybe it shouldn't come as any surprise that cruz and hawley are again showboating. it comes at a cost. you don't mess with national security. it's a lesson ted cruz and josh hawley have failed to learn in the 20 years since september 11th, and that's why they are tonight's absolute worst. and that is tonight's "reidout." "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >>> tonight at "all in" a judge throws the book at a trump rioter. tonight jamie raskin on a big week for the january 6 investigation and the maga world rehabilitation tour. >> you're not working

let's bring in josh hawley of missouri. he is introducing the make in america to sell in america acted. saying american families are bearing the brunt of this crisis. good to have you with us today. what would this entail and how would it change what we're seeing play out right now? >> well, it's a simple idea, martha. all of those goods that you see there waiting off the coast, maybe we ought to be making some of those in the united states. what my bill says it would district the department of commerce to identify the critical goods for our national security and our economy and then it says half of those, half of the value of those goods have to be made in the united states. it would bring back jobs, domestic manufacturing and help our national security. >> martha: so you think there would be support for this? >> i hope so. i can't imagine why there wouldn't be. this is outrageous that we as americans are more and more dependent on foreign nations. joe biden is making us more dependent by the day. we should be going the op

true for people like senator josh hawley giving the rioters a proud salute. true for senator ted cruz. and for senator rick scout who's escaped approprium and shouldn't. scott is the worst offender because he's the chairman of the national republican senatorial committee. he's in charge of running the republican midterm campaign, having voted in the last election to disenfranchise a majority of americans and hand the election to the loser over the winner and end two centuries plus of american democracy. that guy running the midterms. and now he's just -- what is he? he's just another senator complaining about inflation as if he did nothing to undermine american democracy earlier this year, to end it in fact. now, remember, when all this happened, there were some calls for those senators to resign. calls for their expulsion even. that sounds like a dramatic thing to do. but i don't think it's that crazy considering the offense. and short of that, there could have been official censure. it could have been voted to censure them. what they all did was an egregiou

how senator josh hawley is siding with the mauve again. that's. nexte mauve again. that's next instantly clear everyday congestion with vicks sinex saline. for fast drug free relief vicks sinex. instantly clear everyday congestion. and try vicks sinex children's saline. safe and gentle relief for children's noses. ♪ i see trees of green ♪ ♪ red roses too ♪ ♪ i see them bloom for me and you ♪ (music) ♪ so i think to myself ♪ ♪ oh what a wonderful world ♪ last week, as we covered on the show. the national school board association wrote a letter to joe biden, asking for federal assistance to combat the growing threat of violence and intimidation directed at local school boards across the country, yesterday the justice department responded with a one page memo, and it simply direct federal law enforcement to work with, local interest to curb the threats of violence, in today doing a senate judiciary hearing, featuring debris the a.g. lisa monaco, republican senator josh hawley of missouri, best known for raising his fist in support of the january six

attorney for state of montana issued memorandum, josh hawley points to, upon which people could face charges. does it have a chilling effect or not have a chilling effect? >> of course it has a chilling effect. department of justice says it will investigate something, that will chill. i had parents in vermont tell me they know people going to school board meetings who decided now it is not worth it, they don't want to get into entanglement with the department of justice. this is why if you thought merrick garland was a decent man, nonpolitical man, he's ruined reputation and that name by allowing himself to issue that, he should have said no. >> sandra: josh hawley's exchange was about relationshipization of the doj, went as far as to call on merrick garland to resign, listen. >> u.s. attorneys are collecting and cataloging the ways might prosecute parents like mr. smith because they want to be involved in their children's education and have a say in elected officials. it is wrong, unprecedented in the history of this country and i call on you to resign. >> sandra: there were multipl

that's josh hawley, a republican from missouri. one of the things democrats have tried to do to raise the debt ceiling is get an agreement from all 100 senators, it would require a simple majority, 51 votes. any one republican senator can force a 60-vote threshold. josh hawley saying there are multiple republican senators who won't alou it to pass on that simple majority threshold today. as a result, democrats looking at changing the filibuster rules. they needful unanimity within the democratic caucus. wep eel see if they can get there. >> manu, thank you. that test vote later today. >>> mark zuckerberg has testified now four times before congress since last summer with little fallout for being frank until today maybe. it has more to do with what the facebook ceo is not saying than anything he has testified to until now. breaking his silence in a long company letter on the whistle-blower frances haugen's damning accusations against facebook. zuckerberg's new statement putting out hours after senators excoriated him in which the fo

hawley says he refuses to help democrats spend more money. i don't want to spend money. >> on welfare benefits for illegal aliens. i don't want to spend money on tax increases for small business. i don't spend money on the green new deyl democrats insist the money is for pass spending following the vote. senate majority leader chuck schumer slammed republicans for refusing to help republicans plated dangerous and risky partisan game. the short term fix now heads the democrat controlled house once past the treasury department will continue to be able to pay its bills which include social security benefits and paychecks for military troops. but schumer says the plan is merely a band-aid. what is needed now is a long-term solution so we don't go through this risky drama every few months he's calling on republicans to return to the table to pass a broader plan by december. >> republicans say the short term deal should by democrats more time to resolve the broader issue on their own. >> house. lawmakers will return to washington tuesday to pass th

but missouri sen josh hawley republican says he does not need convincing. >> it's important that we that we put teeth in the law this in already and lot of the companies are not supposed to be targeting kids. senator hawley says he's eager to go further but fears big tech lobbying groups will likely launch a campaign against regulations. >> senators blumenthal and markey. meanwhile, the democrats say they will hold more hearings to further expose harmful practices within big tech, hoping to gain more bipartisan support. meanwhile, a big milestone today for those who do not identify as male or female the state department has issued the first u.s. passport with an ax gender marker. this is part of the department's efforts to expand gender inclusive policies soon. all applicants will be able to self select how they identify for passports without requiring medical certification. this new marker will be offered to routine passport applicants starting as early as 2022. instead of trick or treating about trick or skiing. last weekend. storm dumped a over 3 feet of snow up in the sierra allowing

the major newspapers in josh hawley's state said he should resign from congress, but he didn't. but here you see an example, again, of a cancer on the republican party, a cancer on american democracy. once again confusing violence with free speech. confusing the beating up on school board officials, the threatening of school board officials with free speech. is this the republican party we're going to have to deal with for the rest of our lives? >> it is the republican party we're going to have to defeat, and we're going to have to make an example of what we will not toll trait in this country. we are looking in real-time at the normalizing of people saying that violence and threats are permissible in the american debate on which way we want to go with the country. whether you have a josh hawley who was part of inciting and supporting what happened on january 6th as an insurrection, or if you go to a ted cruz that talks about colliding of trucks that will kill chickens, as he's talking about dealing with the debt of the country. i've been a preacher all my life. who uses killing

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mark: welcome back in senator josh hawley, last week you had a hearing, senate judiciary committee, deputy attorney general of united states of answering questions. or was she? she seemed to be ducking a lot of significant questions you are asking about the memo and first amendment. and civil liberties, what do you make of her. >> thank you, mark. i made -- of her that she done want to answer any questions or take any responsible for that memo from the justice department at direction of joe biden, the idea they would use fbi to intervene at school board meeting with purpose of harassing and intimidating parents, i said, this is not about violence, we know if someone threatens violence, local police will book that person and charge that person. this go using federal law enforcement, to try to to -- intimidate parents because these parents are daring to stand up and criticized critical race theory. so you say that fbi will investigate intimidation and harassment by whose standards, she kept telling me, everyone is against violence, we are, but we're not against free expression and the first

everyone from josh hawley and the rights, many democrats will say they don't work with why den and things like this. >> donald trump is more traditional and amy klobachar in the senate. but certainly a sense for a long time that facebook was good. any tech companies were good and these were better corporations that democrats could work with. thastz completely gone. there is more of an about constitute to go after these companies, look at their practices and you are even seeing that from the biden administration which is made antitrust and things like that, a center piece of is work. >> jeff, where do you come down on what congress should do when big tech company like facebook, do you believe that congress should have ag ber role in trying to asparagus. >> i am against the idea of monoapologizing and corporate equal sanitations in the general. >> you brought up before, facebook and since gram. whastz up? >> it's hard to interact online wsdot going through facebook. it's clearly bad or media literacy and arguably bad more democracy. without facebook, where do i go to accidentally wish happy

brian: here is senator josh hawley yesterday having a chance to grill the deputy a.g. merrick garland should be come soon. until then, it's this match up. >> parents waiting sometimes for hours to speak at a local school board meeting to express concerns about critical race theory or the mask of their students, particularly young children, is that in and of itself, is that harassment and intimidation? >> spirited debate is welcome. is a hallmark of this country. it's something we all should engage in. >> i don't think with all due respect it doesn't make it quite clear it doesn't define those terms, nor does it define harassment and intimidation. this if this isn't a deliberate attempt to chill parents from showing up at school board meetings for their elected school board, i don't know what is. i mean, i'm not aware of anything like this in american history. we are talking about the fbi. you are using the fbi to intervene in school board meetings. that's extraordinary. why is it being investigated by the fbi? >> it is not. when and if any situation turns to violence,

kennedy: yesterday republican senator josh hawley asked for the purpose of the plan was. >> who are using the fbi to intervene in school board meetings. tell me where the line is with parent expressing their concerns waiting for hours. >> the job of the justice department and local law enforcement to address that. the attorney general's memorandum simply asked the fbi and counterpart to ensure state and local law enforcement has an open line of communication to reports right. kennedy: care was the justice department when he was trying to set fire to federal courthouse in portland with people still inside? about this, what are parents supposed to do? is the department of justice about to learn it's never a good idea to get between a mother and her child? here with me now, fairfax virginia parent vice president strategy for parents defending education, welcome to the show. >> thank you and thanks for being such a fierce defender of parents and kids. we need voices like yours. kennedy: i left to come to a meeting. i was on the board at my daughter's preschool and i loved it, it was enlighten

. >> marco rubio, rand paul josh hawley, have all taken up dr. fauci as the bogeyman. >> the increasing demonization dr. fauci by donald trump and his minions in the republican party is growing, it's obsessive. >> and watch what they're doing to tony fauci right now. because he is the new hillary clinton for them, they are making him the pinata of all of their disaffection and they're upset. >> in one america, dr. anthony fauci is trusted and even immortalized. in the other america though, he is tarnished and distrusted. how did dr. fauci of all people become a right wing bogeyman? >> tucker: here's what they're doing on fox news to make tony fauci into a right wing bogeyman. here's i was the subject. what they're doing is they're quoting him, okay? and they are quotes from yesterday to his quotes from three months ago, to his quotes from year ago, and they are noting that they don't all add up. if that's a smear campaign. but as cnn's media analysts pointed out in half of america tony fauci is immortalized, and that is true, it's not just the ya

senators josh hawley, mitch mcconnell, rand paul, chuck schumer, speaker pelosi all personally harassed and stalked. joining us tonight congressman byron donald, congressman greg stuebe, dr. marty makary, colorado congressman ken buck, former police officer officer and defense attorney phil holloway, former homeland security official, laura ries. china sending waves of warplanes into taiwan airspace. we have a debt ceiling showdown in d.c. we have a border crisis getting hotter. now the house is again out of session for two weeks. more on the pandora papers. how the rich and powerful hide their money in offshore scheller companies and tax havens. the president wants to stop all of that. republicans pointing out congressional analysis and congressional reports show the biden family pretty much used the same moves. christmas 2 1/2 months away. dr. fauci says, quote, it is just too soon to tell if you will be able to see your family during the holidays. really? the covid czar, now the christmas czar. is he trying to cancel christmas again? but he is blaming the media after it accurately qu

i understand why you have josh hawley or ted cruz trying to emulate it because that is where -- that is where the voters are a. that is all they really care about. you have to care about the base. we are stuck a little bit. it used to be such that the national party was able to control the message to make sure that we are thinking about people aside from the base. individual members have so much of their own authority that there is no real party. you are seeing a lot of people who want to be the leader of this party. if they have not adopted trumpism, they have a doctor populism. it will be with us for a long time. it seems like everybody is making political calculations that being a populist will get you far in the republican party. host: who are you looking at think that this might be something we need to worry about in the future? guest: i think he answered the question. nobody knows other than donald trump. until they have made their own decision, they will allow trump to be the head of the party. i do not know if we know the answer to the question. in response to the caller, it

>> and senator josh i raise my fist for insurrectionists hawley. >> it's wrong. it is unprecedented to my knowledge in the history of this country and i call on you to resign. >> senator tom cotton of arkansas, also, called on the attorney general to resign. >> this is -- >> that's wrong. >> this is shameful. this testimony, your direct ichbidirective, your performance is shameful. thank god you are not on the supreme court. you should resign in disgrace, judge. >> we should noetd three of those you just heard from are said to be considering a run for president based on their performance today, maybe auditioning would be the better word. joining us now, cnn chief legal analyst, jeefry toobin. jeff, are the comments from senator grassley saying garland has politicized the doj accurate? >> well, no, they are not accurate. and as you pointed out, they are rich with irony since he spent four years defending the incredibly politicized justice department of william barr and jeff sessions. but as you point out, this was theater where famerrick garland was really a prop

we had mitch mcconnell, senators chuck schumer, we had other senators stalked like josh hawley at their homes. nancy pelosi was harassed too. should the white house messaging operation step down? you cannot condone stalking and harrassment ever. >> yeah. listen people shouldn't be harassed the way that you win an argument you go out there just don't tell people what you think, you should be doing that. you tell them why you think something fundamentally. government needs to derive all the power from the consent of the people. from myself i will talk to somebody anywhere. if they want to talk to me sitting in a stall in the airport next to me in a bathed room. go ahead, talk to me. i will handle that just fine. this is the point we need to get to. the government has lost the consent of the people. people say, hey, yeah, tax those other people, take their money but that is not the consent, that is not the true consent of the people. that can't be what is stood for. manchin and sinema are -- elizabeth: show the media also justifying stalking and harassing in people's private spaces. this i

hawley, there is a clique in congress that is basing their identity on confronting china. this is for a couple of reasons. one is, it gives the vision of american hegemony a new lease on life, another reason to keep existing. it also allows republicans to play up the racial conflict, which i think was at the heart of trump's presidency. at the end of the day, this goes beyond t republican party. we are also seeg among organizations like fox news, other right-wing media outts, a similar embrace of china as a new central theme of their identity, and their critique of the left, here at home. what i would say is that this presents the greatest danger for the u.s. and china going forward. what i mean by that is, if a republican president is inevitably elected in a few years, i think they will turn the institution that bght it and trump left to them, and turn out the heat on china. china has been baked into their political identity. when you see a possible resident cotton, president haley, president blackburn, if they were to do something as to recognize taiwan unilaterally or s

josh hawley asked this of a doj official defending the new policy. >> with parents waiting sometimes for hours to speak at a local school board meeting to express concerns about critical race theory or the masking of their students, particularly young children, is that in and of itself -- is that harassment and intimidation? >> well, the answer is, of course, not. but harassment and intimidation is defined by social media like this. sent to the board chair in sarasota, florida, who will join me in just a moment. stay the f out of our lives. you don't get to take those decisions, and if you try, you won't like the outcome, i promise you that. or shut your f'ing mouth when it comes to parenting. parents are going to kick down the door and drag you out by your hair. or your power trip will end, and this house of cards will collapse with you under it, i hope. plus, a wanted poster. of her recirculated on social media saying she was guilty of child abuse. on tuesday, the "new york post" put this copy on its cover saying parents and justices are slamming the just department's decision to b

elected officials like senators ted cruz and josh hawley are asking for more information about the alleged spike in threats. >> we need to have a hearing on this subject. we need to hear from the attorney general himself. he needs to come here, take the oath, sat there, and answer questions. >> the way has the term domestic terrorists came from the an sba letter but agreed these threats run counter to our nation's core values. >> these are threats against public servants. threats against members of the school boards regardless of the reasoning, threats and violence against public servants is illegal. >> and there is a deadline here. they attorney general has directed the fbi to hold meetings within 30 days with u.s. attorneys and state leaders to come up with a plan to address threats against school employees. >> shannon: and we will track it. thank you very much. further analysis tonight over the growing backlash over the justice department's effort that critics are calling pressuring parents into silence. angela morabito and harvey dillon. great to have you with us. i will start with a s

not a broad push but from senators josh hawley and senator elizabeth warren and some others who are very, very diametrically opposed on every other issue trying to rein in big tack and they put a lot of their fire on facebook. it's just that now, in this environment, it's very hard to see that they would form a united front and bipartisan coalition and take on this very, very challenging task of regulating these platforms that say they are not publishers and they need to protect free speech, and that on two sides of this very polarized congress, you would see some kind of cooperation on this issue. i imagine -- also you mentioned the insurrection, that this will become an issue of whether or not this is focused on people who came to defend democracy at the capitol on january 6th and become part of the narrative of the big lie and one seeks trutherism. i'm with cara, it's hard to see it ends up in any material change, and although i think there are many smart minds in congress who have ideas about how to regulate facebook and the other platforms that they have the will to reach across the

republican senator josh hawley says the far left wants ultimate control. >> you talk about hurting working families. hurting working people. the democrat agenda is nothing but grinding them down in favor of what? their far left woke politics. that's who wins, the far left wokes, the ones really behind this 3.5 trillion agenda. they want to remake this country. that's what this is about. >> marsha blackburn is the republican senator from tennessee who sits on the senate judiciary committee and rarnging member on product safety and data security committee. good to see you. thank you very much for being here today. so as we look at 11 clock on the east coast today what is your best take? you've been watching this process from the house side throughout your career. where do you think this is headed? >> i think they are headed to a stalemate, martha, because what nancy pelosi and joe biden and chuck schumer are doing, they are talking to people in the beltway. they are not outside of the beltway. and the american people have decided that this socialist agenda is about tearing down this country.

hawley and senators warren and others. who are very diametrically opposed, and every other issue, to try to rein in, big tech and they focused a lot, they've trained a lot of their -- it's just that now, in this environment. it's very hard to see, that they would form a united front and a bipartisan coalition. and take on this very very challenging task, of regulating these platforms. that say they are not publishers. and they need to protect free speech. and, that on two sides of this very polarized congress, you would see some kind of cooperation on this issue. i imagine also, you mentioned the insurrection. this will be a common issue, of whether this is focused on people, who came to defend democracy at the capitol on january six. and become part of the narrative, the big lie. and trutherism. it's discouraging. this reckoning for facebook, it's long overdue. but it's very hard to see, that it actually ends up in any material change. i don't, think although there are very smart minds in congress, who have ideas about ho

testify before the senate tomorrow josh hawley said he has seen enough. senator, what did you see last week that made you feel that way? >> they said they shouldn't have sen that letter. they apologized to for it garland said he issued the memo fbi because of that letter. that was the basis for getting the fbi involved in local school board meetings. now the national school board association says we never should have sent the thing. garland should have done his job at the outset. he should have been independent. he should have said this is crazy. this is weaponizing the fbi. i would never do that he didn't and because of that he should go. >> going to have a chance to question him, right? >> i am. >> brian: i know you always prepare and study the tape. what is it that you think the house left out that you would like to follow up on. >> the key aspect in getting the fbi involved. now we know that the national school board association says shouldn't have sent the letter. by the way, brian, we also see in states all over the country, including missouri, my h

we have two great guests, senator josh hawley who is helping to lead the charge against tyranny in this country and an expert on critical race theory from the manhattan institute. this program tonight is about

hawley as well, designed to break up the company, to say it's unacceptable for facebook to own instagram and what's app and other aspects of technology that we use. these are two different paths and they're different in significant respects. i think haugen's testimony is news worthy, certainly the documents she leaked are news worthy. i also think that people shouldn't view her necessarily as being against what facebook actually wants to achieve. which is a regulatory burden that they would actually welcome because it squashes their potential competitors. howie: that's a fascinating take. fran sense -- frances haugen's rollout may have been a little slick. while media loves to focus on a single heroine. >> look, i thought that this is a very complex process and it's why the right and the left commentators don't fall into neat categories on this but frances haugen is saying something that people have been saying for years, that facebook's algorithm, the algorithm of most social 3450eda is to keep you online as long as possible so they can sell you more ads. howie: keep you addicted. >> ex

hawley accused facebook of removing the video over -- censorship and facebook removed the video over misinformation. this is just one of the latest damning revelations to emerge from the "facebook papers," which are based on internal company documents leaked by whistleblower frances haugen. meanwhile, "the washington post" reports zuckerberg opposed a spanish-language voting information resource on whatsapp for fear it would seem partisan. amidst the unfolding scandals, facebook recently posted increased profits of $9 billion for the third quarter. in texas, voting rights groups have filed a federal lawsuit seeking to overturn texas' highly gerrymandered new congressional map, which was drawn by republicans and signed into law by governor greg abbott on monday. the new map expands the voting power of white texans, even though the 2020 census revealed people of color accounted for 95% of texas' population growth over the last decade. former u.s. attorney general eric holder, who now heads the national democratic redistricting committee, said -- "we simply cannot allow governor abbott

senator josh hawley response to that. but first, how to crater the u.s. economy, that's the focus

i know ted cruz was great, and also this man, missouri senator josh hawley, who joins us now. senator, you equally had strong remarks, and going back to this case of this supervisor in the school and this memo about domestic terrorism for parents you said that all i can conclude is either you are not in control of your department or more likely i think to be the case is about a knew full well exactly what would happen, meaning the memo going after and targeting parents that are concerned about what is being taught in their kids schools. >> yeah, what we saw, sean, is the department of justice and federal prosecutors are already drawing up a list, 13 crimes on this one particular list, 13 crimes that parents could be charged with. these are federal crimes, by the way, sean, the attorney general standing up there and saying we are only concerned about justice, meanwhile his prosecutors are making lists of crimes parents could be charged with that have nothing to do with violence. one of them was making an annoying phone call to a school board member, that is on the list of somet

true for people like senator josh hawley, seen here given the rioters are proud salute this morning. true for senator tankers, and for rick scott, who's escaped opprobrium, and should not. they all voted to overturn the election. in some ways sky is the worst because he's now the chairman of the national republican senatorial committee. he's in charge of running the midterm campaign, having voted in the last election, to disenfranchise the majority of americans, and hand the election to the loser over the winter, and end two centuries plus, of american democracy. that guy, running the midterms. and now is just what is, ease just another senator complaining about inflation. as if he did nothing to undermine american democracy. to end it in fact. now remember, when all of this happened, there were some calls for those senators to resign. calls for their expulsion even. and that sounds like a traumatic thing to do, but i don't think it's that crazy considering the offense. short of that, there could've been officials censure, they could've been voted to censure them. what they all did w

they are going to replaced by josh hawley's and avowed insurrectionists. at the house level, you mentioned derek van arten. he was in a restricted area on january 6th. he is running in a swing district held right now by a retiring democrat. i would say he is the favorite in that district. another insurrectionist is joining lauren gobert and these types. in other swing districts like this -- i talked to centrist type folks who maybe are fellow republicans who want to run for office, they don't want to run in primaries because they can't because they don't know what to do. you lose on recruiting. you lose on retirements. and then you get down to the local level. and can you imagine just being a normal mom who may be is a republican who is pro-life, who wants to work on the school board and now you have got anti-vaxxers and shirtless people screaming at and you giving away your home address if you don't want to -- if you want their kids to wear masks and be safe in schools? you are going to leave the school board. from the senate all the way down to the schoo

is that exactly what a ted cruz or a josh hawley wants? >> you're probably right. he doesn't seem to have the temperament for it. i've got a short fuse. i watched and i said to myself, if i were in that position yesterday, i wouldn't have sat and taken it, but, you know, he's probably the better man. >> you've got a short fuse. you're one of the most patient people i know, michael smerconish. >> not true. not true. >> you are willing to listen. you list sonen so well to so ma different points of view. you're right, merrick garland might be living in a different world than the 2021 world. it is hard to know. >> he's used to -- he's used to wearing a robe. i guess the part that was so upsetting to me is that i have read in on this. i know about this school board association and their language and how they backed off. i just thought that yesterday was a very vivid example of the manipulation of what goes on the national stage to the detriment of people who don't have time to pay attention and to read in the way that we do. because anyone who has read in on this issue,