a crew member is putting this on the armorer and producers and you heard josh campbell's comments. would legal charges come down to the people vetting crew members like these or is it just the crew involved, producers? what does it come down to? >> so there is two types of liability at play. there is civil liability that shows negligence, someone would have to show to sue someone for money damages and criminal charges potentially, involuntarily manslaughter you have to show criminal negligence or reckless nls. i'm looking at three people here. first of all, the assistant director when he handed the gun to alec baldwin and said cold gun, how did he confirm? did he look at the gun? what did he see? did he not inspect it? that will be a big problem. i'm looking at the armorer. was she qualified and how was a loaded live weapon on the trey for the a.d. to grab and finally, whoever did the hiring. the a.d. had prior issues josh talked about and the armorer was maybe shaky in her experience as she just laid out in the podcast clip we heard. those are the three people who are going to be

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josh campbell, our cnn security correspondent, joins us as well. josh, again, we're waiting for more information. in the meantime we're left to report what we see with our own eyes. you made a good point a few moments ago. police have said they're setting up a reunification center. after they said that in a tweet, we saw these buses being brought to the scene. as a trained law enforcement officer as you were before you moved into the journalism sphere, that tells us police may not have this completely wrapped up but they are in the mindset of feeling secure enough to bring in additional resorurces and additional people in what would be harm's way if this situation were not under control. >> you have law enforcement officers who obviously will go in toward the sound of gunfire. you have medical personnel who will come. tactical medics will stage in closer to an area if there are actual injuries. but everyone else, the school bus drivers, the administrative staff, they won't be bringing those into a hot, active situation. again, that gives us a littl

she spoke tonight to cnn's josh campbell, and josh joins me now. good evening, josh, i appreciate it. let's dig into this investigation now. what evidence have they collected so far? >> well, the key piece of evidence that we learned about today, don, was a lead projectile fired from that gun by alec baldwin, the sheriff says struck halyna hutchin, and into the movie set's director, lodged into his shoulder. that leading investigators to determine that that was indeed a live round, an active firearm. of course that was the big question we had, what type of projectile, the sheriff saying that was an active live round of ammunition, raising the question how such a live round made its way on to the set of a movie. i asked the sheriff that question today, he said that remains under investigation. other pieces of evidence we're learning about, three pistols and over 500 rounds of ammunition, being sent to the fbi laboratory for analysis, the key question they want to answer about the cash of ammunition, how much is the inert dummy rounds and how much in

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information on this, josh campbell, in new mexico now, and sharon waxman, founder and ceo of the rep, interested in your information as well, and was get through this, good evening to both of you. and the fiddle shooting, and onset last week. what we know about those, and safety protocols looked into, anything, tell us.>> that's being reported by the los angeles times, the two accidental discharges, the more we learn about this movie set. and it was played by safety issues, employees themselves expressing their concern, and in any incident investigators look back, what we are hearing, there seem to be several issues at play, don't know whether the incident involved live rounds or if there was investigation that is underway, but obviously authorities will be looking back at the pattern in order to determine whether what happened here, the fiddle shooting, could have been prevented. >> one more before i get to sharon, cnn is learning that the assistant director or the a.d. david halls, who handed alec baldwin a prop gun was previously fired after a gun incident intraday crewmember, what

josh campbell, cnn, santa fe, new mexico. >>> u.s. democrats are still governing the agenda for biden before he heads to the cop-26 summit. take a listen. >> do you want a deal by the time you leave for cop? >> yes. >> something you expressed to democrats? >> that's my hope. >> well, senator joe manchin has insisted the cost of the social safety net package coming down to $1.5 trillion from 3.5 trillion, he had concerns about medicare and clean electricity to protect the state's coal industry. despite the differences, manchin is optimistic an agreement can be reached. >> do you think a framework could be? >> should be. >> is 1.75 too much? >> i said 1.5, guys. >> no matter the final price tag, president biden insists his plan will not lead to more debt. >> these bills are not about left versus right or moderate versus progressive or anything that pits one american against another. these bills are about competitiveness versus complacency. you hear these numbers, 3.5 trillion or 1.75 trillion. we pay for it all. it doesn't increase the

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josh campbell has been covering this story for us, he's live in santa fe. we know that hannah gutierrez is one of two people that officials say they're focusing on for this investigation, it is her and the assistant director there. the case is a little complex. what more do we know and what more are we hearing from the sheriff and even from hannah gutierrez this morning? >> reporter: yeah, well, you know, talking to prosecutors we know that one key area they're looking at, erica, is how the live rounds actually got on to the set. that will be a key determination in their decision whether to bring any potential criminal charges. as you mentioned, the armorer is breaking her sleenilence, putti out this statement, her writers saying safety is hannah's number one priority on set, ultimately this set would never have been compromised if live ammo wasn't introduced. hannah has no idea where the live rounds came from. she told detectives that live rounds are never on set, that has been contradicted by the sheriff. he spoke last night with chris cuomo about that is

. >> cnn's josh campbell joins us from los angeles and that protest. how big is the proetest right now, and what else did the ceo say. >> we're seeing several employees and also supporters of the transgender community coming here at this netflix complex, demonstrating against the way this company has handled this whole controversy. as you mentioned, the center here, the focus is on this dave chappelle special which so many of the critics here say is transphobic. now, the ceo of the company himself receiving a lot of controversy, a lot of criticism from his own employees after a statement that he put out right after this, i'll read you a part of it, with the closer, we understand the concern is not offensive content, but titles which can increase real world harm, while some employees disagree, we have a strong belief that content on scream does not mean real world harm. we talked to some of the demonstrators here who said not only did the dave chappelle show and the manner in which this company has handles this, it puts transgender people at risk. take

cnn's josh campbell has that part of the story from santa fe. >> reporter: we are learning new details about the status of the state's investigation into that fatal shooting of cinematographer halyna hutchins by alec baldwin. the district attorney's office telling cnn it remains an active investigation. they have not yet ruled out any potential criminal charges. of course, one key question has been liable, whether authorities will be holding any one person or group of people actually responsible for her death. officials tell us that that investigation is underway at this hour. we are also learning new details about what authorities found on the set of that shooting. according to court records, we are learning that the sheriff's department found three pistols as well as boxes of ammunition, a fanny pack containing ammunition, as well as spent rounds. left unstated in that warrant is whether any of this ammunition was actually live, whether they were live rounds. we are waiting for additional information from sheriff's department officials which we hope will come on wednesday. finally, a

josh campbell is in santa fe with more on the attorney's statement and the reaction from investigators. what do you know? flnch we're hearing her break her silence, this arm orrer, her attorney is coming out saying refuting the notion that she was responsible here. i'll read you a part of the statement. they say that safety is hannah's number one priority on set. ultimately the set would never have been compromised with live ammo were not introduced. she has no idea where it came from and it became unsafe due to lack of safety meetings not the fault of hannah which raised kwet if there were issues that she know about before, did she bring them to the attention of the production management. we don't know the answer to that question. but we are hearing from the sheriff. he's saying thus far witnesses have been cooperative. but he wanted her to come back in to talk to detectives. take a listen. >> obviously we will take that statement and i'm sure our investigators will have follow up questions and any issues that she's brought to the forefront we'll follow up on those. so we need time to

. >>> let's hecht to josh campbell. we're going to begin with you. is he still feeling good about how things are going? >> reporter: yarks i lindsey. democrats from the white house to capitol hill projecting confidence they're on the verge of closing what would be a historic deal, but you heard nancy pelosi who had breakfast with president biden yesterday, they're 90% of the way toward resolving those issues. kamala harris is confident they'll get a deal. nothing's over until it's over. right now it's definitely not over, with democrats still having to focus a lot of their time on what can be pulled out of this bill to get it down to a size that is amenable to folks like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. >>> paid family leave, 12 weeks will likely be pared down to four weeks. also tax hikes on the wealthier versions. free community college likely out as well as expanded medicare coverage, which is a high priority for senator sanders of vermont. the primary a big question mark with the clean energy program the democrats wanted not likely to make it in t

i want to bring in josh campbell and areva martin. hello to both of you. josh, the district attorney says they're not ruling out criminal charges. what else do you know about their investigation? >> hi don. we're learning new information about the status of the state investigation here, don. an official with the district attorney's office tells me it's active at this hour. that they have not ruled out any criminal charges. that's important because we have been wondering about that question of liability. will any person or a group of people be responsible for the death of halyna hutchins? an official here with the district attorney's office saying their work continues and trying to sort that out. >> what is your reaction to the possibility of criminal charges in the case not being ruled out? >> not surprised at all, don, given all the information that's coming out, there is allegations that there were bullets on this set because there was lots of ammunition on the set and perhaps crew members were engaged in some kinds of target practice on their down time

campbell. . >> it's a terrible tragedy. we don't know how the live rounds got there. that will end up being the linchpin for whether a decision is made about charges. >> joining us is criminalologist joey jackson and new york city homicide prosecutor paul callen. how the live rounds in the chamber will be the linchpin to this investigation. why and for whom? for which people involved here? i'm talking about criminal culpability. >> tkpwofrpbg. it has to matter. that's significant. apparently there were people month were very concerned with respect to the safety, the lack of protocols being followed. you have guns everywhere with live ammunition, et cetera. people taking shooting practice and other things. your job specifically is to ensure when a gun is used, it is a cold gun. what does that mean? it means it does not have the capability to fire. to the extent that is your job and your responsibility and you don't do it to the left and the reality is as a result of your conduct, the person you just referred to, something ha

my colleague josh campbell obtained an inventory of the items that authorities seized from that movie set, and they include interesting things, a fanny pack with ammo, boxing of ammo, three black revolvers, spent cases, big, remaining unanswered question is whether that ammunition was real ammo, dummy bullets or empty cartridges. we just don't know what the projectiles were that was used on set. this is all part of the ongoing investigation. kate, we are expecting an update from the sheriff's office on wednesday. >> that's an interesting piece of this, lucy, is we haven't heard from the sheriff's office publicly, and we reported on this on friday. so tomorrow will be the first time we really will hear from them. correct? >> reporter: that's right. we simply don't know what they found in their investigation. we know that no charges have been filed as of yet. there was obviously a lot of material to go through on that movie set. they were coming through evidence over the weekend, interviewing eyewitnesses. but no clear sign from the officials of what they're focusing on in this investig

cnn's josh campbell has more on that. >> reporter: christine and laura, we are learning more about the person who handed the gun to alec baldwin during the fatal shooting in santa fe. dave halls was involved in another incident in the set of a production in 2019. a weapon had unexpectedly discharged. that leading an employee to recoil. they were taken away from the set by a medic, eventually brought back. however, halls himself was dismissed and ultimately fired. now, cnn has reached out to halls for comment. we have not yet received a response. this is all coming as we are learning new details about the circumstances surrounding that fatal shooting here in santa fe. according to search warrant data from the sheriff's department, alec baldwin was practicing what's called a cross-draw where you pull a weapon across your body. when the shot rang out, we are told that struck halyna hutchins ultimately leading to her death. of course, there is a question about liability. who will ultimately be held responsible here? there is a question about whether it's the role of the armourer. the perso

our colleague josh campbell is also reporting that since giving an initial statement to the sheriff's office here, hannah gutierrez reed has yet to indicate whether she'll follow up with another interview. that same source tells josh that investigators have been in direct contact with alec baldwin who is willingly spoken with them when they've called him for additional follow-up questions. >> natasha chen, thank you. >>> a quick note from us here at "the lead" we don't often mention our competitors but the fox anchor opposite us from 4:00 to 5:00, neil cavuto has been in the news. we want to say a couple of things. neil is a survivor. he has multiple sclerosis, beat stage four cancer and is fighting covid. he talked about the importance of vaccines on air precisely to protect people like him who have compromised immune systems. sadly many in the audience watching have been lied to about vaccines by others. neil has received death threats for his simple, logical, science-based call for vaccinations. and neil cavuto is a gentleman. neil does not deserve that. stay strong, neil. we wish

josh campbell is "outfront." >> reporter: strongly urging hanna gutierrez reed to come in for more questioning. the 24-year-old head armorer was in charge of weapons on the set, where alec baldwin fired a live round, killing halyna hutchins. gutierrez reed is making her statement public, reading in part, safety is hanna's number one priority on set. secondly, the set would never have been compromised if live rounds had not been introduced. hanna has no idea where the live rounds came from. she has never had a weapon discharge. there was a lack of safety meetings. this was not the fault of hanna. a discharge on hanna's last set said several happened over the summer and lack of safety was a concern. >> i witnessed things on set that i thought were unsafe in my personal opinion. the way that she was handling firearms. >> reporter: when asked about her work on that project, her first as the role of armorer, gutierrez reed said -- >> i almost didn't take the job because it was my first one, but doing it, it went really smoothly. after the fatal shooting on the set of "rust" last week, court records

. >> josh campbell, thank you. >>> let's discuss this with reba martin, an attorney and cnn legal analyst and scott toshaa, a stunt coordinator. you do this for a living. did you hear anything from that press conference that answered some of your questions? >> so, no. it actually -- i had more questions. there were three firearms recovered from the set. one was a live weapon, which why that was on set is beyond me. the other he said was not a live weapon. so we don't know, was this a blank firing weapon, a replica where it can't -- there's no firing pin, you can sometimes load bullets in them but they wouldn't fire. the third one was a plastic dummy gun. that should have been probably what alec baldwin was drilling with. apparently he was practicing a complicated cross draw maneuver, which is not common, where the holster would be on the opposite side and you draw across your body. that should have been probably what he was practicing with. it's interesting that there were 500 rounds removed from the set, whether they were live ammo, blanks or dummy rounds. what a dummy round is, it's bas

i want to get to our cnn law enforcement correspondent, josh campbell, who was right there asking some of the questions. josh, the sheriff was going through with the d.a. this partial investigation. he said alec baldwin has been cooperating and has been interviewed on several occasions. he also said they have spoken to dave halls, the assistant director, and hanna gutierrez who was the armorer on this set. they, in addition to alec baldwin, were two people that handled the colt revolver right around the time of this shooting. give some context on that and other takeaways you got from watching that news conference. >> reporter: john, we learned a lot of information about this weapon. there was a question about what type of projectile was used, whether it was some type of blank round. the sheriff said right from the top that this was live ammunition that went through halyna hutchins and hit the shoulder of joel souza. we hear a lot of times we need to wait for the autopsy, wait for the coroner's report. the sheriff describing at the end of that press conference this bullet shooting and k

i'm going to bring in cnn's josh campbell for more on this. josh, you and me and anthony have been on together in many more live shooting situations that have played out before, unfortunately. what are you thinking when you're seeing this situation unfold before us which, again, very little detail coming out, but confirmation that police are on the scene methodically working through what they say is reports of an active shooter scene. >> yeah, far too many of these we've covered, kate. what we know from authorities right now is this went from a suspected shooting to now both the atf and the police calling it a shooting. that bit of information, we know how they're handling the situation. one thing, we look at these images. on the right side of your screen you have law enforcement arrive, b arriving, but one thing we often see in these shootings is the stream of students coming out. sadly we see them lining up with their hands raised as they try to bring them out as part of that processing. >> what does that tell you, josh? >> the reason i brin

josh campbell, you're with us. you're a former fbi agent. tell us about the manhunt that's happening right now. how are police trying to track him down? >> there are a couple unusual aspects of this shooting, ana, that we don't typically see. when these happen we sometimes wait minutes, hours, sometimes days, to determine why someone opened fire. here authorities saying this appears to have followed a fight. and the reason why that's important is because it does not appear, at least from the information we have right now, that this person came to the school with the focus on ending possible life. it appears there was some kind of altercation. we've seen hundreds of law enforcement officers from different agencies descend on that school. they are now being focused on trying to actually catch this fugitive. authorities describe him as armed and dangerous. we know that he has already used a firearm, so that is something they want the public to know. they don't want people to approach this individual. they want them to call 911. finally it's wor

josh campbell is in santa fe for us. >> reporter: christine, we are learning new details about the circumstances surrounding that fatal shooting of cinematographer halyna hutchins here in santa fe. the sheriff announcing on wednesday it was a suspected live round of ammunition fired from a gun by actor alec baldwin that ultimately took her life. now, there are many questions that still remain. i asked the sheriff how is it possible that a live round of ammunition made its way onto a film set. he said that that very much remains under investigation at this hour. now, authorities also seized several items, including three firearms, over 500 rounds of ammunition. we are told that that ammo has been sent to the fbi's laboratory in quantico, virginia, to try to determine how much of that ammo is the normal type that you would see on a set, the dummy rounds, and how much of it might be live ammunition. i also sat down wednesday with the district attorney. she said that she was shocked to learn about the circumstances surrounding this case. she also gave us new insight into her calculus, and her ultima

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cnn's josh campbell has the details. >> reporter: there were a series of protests around the state of california on monday, including at the state capital in sacramento, by protesters demonstrating against covid-19 vaccine map ndates. moms on the ground, a group, encouraged parents to keep kids home to send a message to school administrators and state leaders. governor newsom responding to the criticism. a spokesperson saying vaccines are the way out of the pandemic. the governor's office adding the state already requires its students are vaccinated against a range of viruses, measles, mumps, and rubella. adding there's no reason we wouldn't do the same for covid-19. >>> new this morning, cnn learned the cdc is currently evaluating tests to stay programs in schools. this is where students who may have been exposed to coronavirus in school still attend classes in person. they still are able to do that, instead of quarantine, as long as they test negative for the disease and show no symptoms. this is a controversial approach, but it is one that is growing in popularity. cnn's jacqueline

cnn's josh campbell is live in santa fe, new mexico, following all of this for us. josh, what's the latest you're hearing? >> reporter: we heard from investigators and prosecutors that their main focus on deciding whether to bring charges is going to come down to how those live rounds got on a movie set. up to now, we haven't heard from this armorer, hannah gutierrez. she's breaking her silence today in a statement from her attorney. they are defending her, saying she wasn't responsible for wa transpired. part of it says "safety is hannah's number-one priority on this set. this set never would have been compromised if live ammo was not introduced. hannah has no idea where the live rounds came from. the whole production became unsafe including lack of safety meetings, not the fault of hannah." the question whether she raised issues as the person responsible for firearm safety on the set. we have not heard that answer. we do know that in court documents hannah gutierrez, the armorer, said there were never any live rounds on that set. that was contradicted by the sheri

cnn's josh campbell reports from santa fe. >> reporter: we are learning new information about the status of the state's investigation into that fatal shooting of cinematographer halyna hutchins by actor alec baldwin. officials in santa fe with the district attorney's office tells me that their investigation remains active. they say that they have not yet ruled out any potential criminal charges in this case. that's obviously key because one question has been liability. will any one person or group of people be held responsible for her death? again, an official with the d.a.'s office tells me that investigation is ongoing. we are also learning new information about what the sheriff's department actually found on the set of that shooting after that incident. according to court records, we are learning they found three pistols as well as cans of ammunition, a fannie pack containing ammunition, as well as spent rounds. left unstated in that warrant, one key question whether any ammunition was actually live. we are also awaiting information from the medical examiner's office. i talked to an o

our colleague josh campbell reports that investigators have had follow-up questions and baldwin has willingly answered and picked up the phone. the other people that the sante fe sheriff here would like to do follow up interviews with are the armorer and the assistant director. now hannah gutierrez-reid released a statement through her attorneys saying she has no idea how a live round got on set and safety is her top priority. the sheriff told cnn that there may be some conflicting issues that he would like to clarify by speaking with her again and also speaking again with the assistant director, pamela. >> natasha chen, thank you so much. and let's continue this conversation. i want to bring in patrick gomez, the executive heeditor a elie honig. patrick, how surprised are you that baldwin spoke out now and what appears to be spontaneous? >> clearly alec baldwin, anyone who follows his career knows that he's not shy about speaking out, about sometimes ruffling fenlers. i think what is clear in this situation is these are two exasperated parents that pulled over because they have children as y

she told my colleague josh campbell that involuntary manslaughter charges could be considered in this case pending the outcome of the investigation. involuntary manslaughter cases are not common in new mexico. she also said that all options are on the table at this point and no one has been ruled out just yet, wolf. >> lucy, thank you. >>> let's bring in our cnn legal analyst, criminal defense attorney joey jackson and cnn contributor and entertainment tonight co-host, nischelle turner. this is significant new information we received. the assistant director acknowledged he didn't properly check the rounds loaded into the weapon. could we see charges stemming from that admission? >> wolf, that's a stung admission and the answer is, yes, we could see those charges. why? the reality is that everyone has a duty and a responsibility to act reasonably, to act responsibly, to not act carelessly, particularly in circumstances such as this. there are internal protocols which provide for the safety of others, right? there's a chain of custody with respect to where that gun is. when it gets from

a source telling my colleague josh campbell that investigators have been in touch with him whenever they have followup questions, that he's willingly answering them. at the same time, on friday we saw the armorer release a statement through her lawyer saying that she has no idea how a live round got on the set. the sheriff here is interested in doing a followup interview with the armorer, hannah gutierrez-reed, as well as the assistant director. pamela? >> all right, natasha chen, thank you so much. >>> and now we pull back the curtain from behind the violent scenes of january 6th. there are new details tonight on t the tactics deployed as the u.s. capitol was under siege in a potential coup that was under way. many revelations involve the man you see speaking right here -- that is john eastman. you see rudy giuliani beside him, and like him, eastman is a former trump lawyer who spoke at the january 6 rally to promote the big lie that the election was stolen. eastman had been pushing for vice president mike pence to block congress' vote to certify the electoral college results, something

crime lab for testing with other evidence, and as the santa fe district attorney told my colleague josh campbell the investigation is going to -- the linchpin for the charges will be the question of how that live ammunition got on set and got into the gun. now, you mentioned the investigate is focusing on two people now, dave halls, the assistant director, he issued a chilling admission to detectives according to a newly released court documents in which he said that he failed to check the weapon that was use d in that deadly shooting. he told detectives, he said he failed to check the firearm properly, saying he could, quote, only remember seeing three rounds, he advised he should have checked all of them, but he didn't. hannah gutierrez was interviewed by the same detective. she said she checked the gun for dummies, fake bullets, blanks and ensured they were not hot rounds. the armorer also told detectives that no live ammo is ever kept on set, and, of course, the sheriff contradicting her in yesterday's press conference saying they do suspect that live ammunition was on that set. the