pegasus software, it gets inside . i don't know if it gets inside every time it tries, but if he gets inside, it can turn your microphone on so whoever is doing it can listen to what you're saying and what other people are saying. but it also can go into your emails, your whatsapp, your contacts, your pictures, videos, and it can steal them all, make a copy of everything, and then our thought is it it is doing that against people like you who are not terrorists or criminals, then why? part of what we want to show and what we think we know, what we are discovering and what we are researching, is the user to get civilians then why would they want to know what you're doing? >> it is my personal life. it is not enough to say, please, stop -- >> after getting out the new phone and the when she was using at the time of khashoggi's murder, dana priest sent them to amnesty international's security lab for analysis. a few hours later, while on the way back to the airport, she received a call with the results. >> i guess pretty

the spyware used is called pegasus and it is made by an israeli surveillance firm. the revelations have been dropping all week, so how do you pull off a series of global scoops like this? we are joined by some of thejournalists behind it. also today, the role that specialist fact checkers play in journalism. in the last 18 months, this has been a story of what is and is not true. some stories of course are easy to disprove. the vaccine does not contain a microchip from bill gates, but how do we navigate the grey areas? donald trump's claim for example that covid—19 could come from a chinese laboratory was widely branded as a conspiracy theory by the media and you could not share it on some social media platforms, but that changed a few weeks ago when president biden said that it was a possibility. we are going to be talking about that and more a bit later with claire milne who is the acting editor of full fact, the uk fact=checking organisation and ian birrell who is a contributing editor of the mail on sunday. let's start with that pegasus project which has been

let's start with that pegasus project which has been making headlines all week. laurent richard is the director and founder of forbidden stories, the ngo which got hold of this leaked list of 50,000 possible targets for surveillance, and paul lewis is head of investigations at the guardian which is one of the partners of the pegasus project. laurent, before we get into how you coordinated all of this and what it might tell us about the power of collective journalism, just tell us, how does this pegasus spyware work? what does it actually do to a phone? it is basically a spyware that is attacking your phone and you do not know that, it is an invisible attack. it will turn your phone into a spy in your pocket and then the pegasus software will take the entire control of your device, which means they will know everything you're doing with your device, who you are talking to, they will know the messages that you are sending, even if they are encrypted, they can activate the camera, they can know basically everything and then the pegasus software will transfer the sec

we conducted the investigation into how pegasus by way was being used in various countries. this is much one of the founders had to say either we do the privacy issue and the number not to worry about doing that in front of the problem that they want to get to the bottom of it. now the government and that there is no evidence not support us, nothing allegations and that the reports are an attempt to undermine the monsoon session of india's parliament, which began on monday. but the country main opposition political party of the congress and many others. calling for an independent investigation into the report, given just how serious these allegations list for on reporting the let's told now to sit us read a raj. i'm. he's the funding editor of the indian digital news portal. the wire. the wire is one of the media organizations that collaborated globally on the pegasus investigations. he joins us on skype from new delhi sid us, but other john, are we saying that this is the water gates movement for mr. moody? that's what is being called by some people in your country. well, i

and the government's using pegasus against their own people are the ones to blame. american media outlets have been feasting on a story that's more of a spectacle, the billionaire space race monoxide, robbie's been examining the coverage. mean. there's a reason that american journalists called the hot months of summer, the silly seas isn't there. absolutely. and this story fits the bill. we have 3 billionaires, british businessmen, richard branson, the founder of amazon, jeff, pathos, and pick on to printer, ilan mosque. all 3 of them raising to reese the fringes of space in rockets developed by their teams. branson one that contest a couple of weeks ago, but this past week it was jeff is off turn. this is the world's richest man, and most of his wealth comes from the mega corporation that he founded amazon. a corporation avoid tax on the world. it's been criticized for not paying blue collar workers living wage and not even giving them enough time for bathroom breaks. but put bays off in a rocketship, and u. s. media outlets tend to lose their faculty. this intervi

— in this list of 15 seconds before pegasus activity appeared on his phone — pegasus activity appeared on his phone. there are multiple examples that we _ phone. there are multiple examples that we can — phone. there are multiple examples that we can show and as you said, a example. _ that we can show and as you said, a example, forensics on 67 phones, 37 of those _ example, forensics on 67 phones, 37 of those showed some form of pegasus activity _ of those showed some form of pegasus activity recording to a frantic analysis— activity recording to a frantic analysis and for us, we think that is quite _ analysis and for us, we think that is quite a — analysis and for us, we think that is quite a compelling link. laurent, we 'ust is quite a compelling link. laurent, we just mentioned _ is quite a compelling link. laurent, we just mentioned the _ is quite a compelling link. laurent, we just mentioned the edward - is quite a compelling link. laurent, - we just mentioned the edward snowden and we have seen this before with panama papers, this idea of teaming up panama papers, this ide

this is not the 1st time the spyware has made headlines. pegasus is the brain child up in his really tech company, and so it came up in the investigation into the murder of saudi journalist jamal shoghi, what is different this time around is the scale of the story, the leak of 50000 phone numbers belonging to some big name politicians, corporate figures, and nearly 200 journalists reportedly identified as targets of n as those clients. the evidence would suggest that the company has been all too willing to sell it spyware, to repressive governments known to crush, to set. ultimately, this is a story about privacy, the vulnerabilities of modern technology, and the lack of regulation of a surveillance industry that's on the rise. our starting point this week is the malware that's distracting people's fall from the weapons. and once it's inside to they get everything, they got your voice, the actually, the camera, they can say like the person that is over your shoulder and he's reading what you, what you really watch, what's your washing, largest buy in your pocket. a global journalisti

this pegasus gambler, being treated by ron russia. we would never have the end of the this is the threat of privacy, democracy and all that kind of thing. because of course, because need to but i can chris lee the most detrimental aspect. it's how it will have a chilling effect from civil society in the middle east because people are worried about being watched. they'll behave in a way that the same with them actually being watched and discouraged janice actors, etc. and being critical of their james and doing the best of journalism to tennessee and now which has been in political turmoil ever since. the president declared a state of emergency there. what critics are calling a flo. phillips has been tracking the impact on the news media, including this network al jazeera. it started last sunday, richard when the president came, said fire the prime minister unsuspended parliament, after weeks of protest over the government handling of the economy. and cobit 19 the next day plainclothes offices, entered algae. there is bureau and tunis

this includes john, i mean, the pegasus, the spyware, shouldn't be afraid. nobody is safe at this. hello richard gilbert and you're at the listening post where we don't cover the news. we cover the way the news is covered. here are the media stories we're examining this week. user warning for activist dissidence and journalists, the world over your mobile phones may have been compromised by spyware. that one company is selling. and authoritarian governments are by a match made in face rockets there, billionaire payload, you said in the jeff bezos or the news outlets the cannot get enough of the story. there is a crucial election coming up in germany, and the most widely read newspaper is building up its coverage, trying to maintain its influence and cranking anti locked down protesters in the u . k. can you feel the hand of the new well hold upon us with a fake news reporter and trolling the tabloids driving the store? it has been a week now since a global consortium of media outlets blew the lid off a huge surveillance scandal revealing how the hacking to pegasus has been used by

it's called pegasus, from an israeli spyware company. thanks to evidence collected by ngo and the rights group amnesty international, it seems there are 50,000 people whose phones have been selected, most of the numbers were in gulf countries and north africa, but others include india, pakistan, and friends. nso group denies any wrongdoing and says the report is full of wrong assumptions. the phone numbers of 14 heads of state are said to be targeted. include pakistan's prime minister, a south african president, and the french president. a newspaper says mccrone's phone number is on the list selected by morocco's intelligence service for potential cyber spying. if the allegations are true, the president says it will be very serious. morocco has denied using pegasus spyware and rejected what it says are groundless allegations. other phones are said to be those belonging to people close to the saudi journalist who was murdered at the saudi embassy 2018. media organizations working with the pegasus investigation say more than 180 journalist

so what more do we know about this pegasus software? and what would be the purpose of governments who want to use the service? the purpose of god once clearly is to continue to concentrate power in the hands of nation states. and therefore they go ahead and use these kinds of technology tools which held them to surveil and their own will to intercept and their own convenience. and to potentially target all those people, which the government believes could potentially be having an impact upon the government like duties. so initially, the stool, the pegasus soften, was meant only to be used in the context of the fight against terrorism and cyber crime. but to date become the de facto of kind of a method or software that's used by government for what ideal boxes of surveillance during sort of meeting all potential political, journalistic and business targets. now could be legal consequences for governments . we're using this malware in order to fly on john, this and activists. there could be long legal damage occasions that ultimately depe

peter o'brien has more on how pegasus works. peter: pegasus is one of the st powerful bs of spyware ever made. it is easily installed and almost impossible to detect and even harder to get rid of. what's more, it gis the atcker root access to the victims phone. >> it is pretty much turning your phone into something that's spying on you all the time in your pocket, which is extremely invasive. peter: tagus's can slip into a phone and a number of ways -- pegasus can slip into a phone and a number of ways. a malicious link, manually by hacking a stolen phone or the zero click approach which exploits a closeness to the phone without any action on the users part. once they are in -- they can read messages, look at photos and videos, access contacts and calendar data and track using gps. pegasus can use the microphone and camera, meaning anything being typed, a password, can be known to the hacker. the phone will not shown any sign -- who any signs of being hacked. even if you knew pegasus was on your phone, you would have to turn it

pressure mounts on the israeli company that developed pegasus. an embarrassment for the countries that purchase the spyware. it was morocco that tried to hack macron's phone. india was thought to be the guest abusers of the software that can break through what was thought to be impenetrable. in india, modi's government continues to dodge questions over whether it is a client of the nsl group. journalists have been telling a different story. >> india's i. minister began his week dismissing allegations the government used pegasus by -- spire. >> when we look through the prism of logic, there is no substance whatsoever behind the sensationalism. >> minutes after his statement apartment, the wire, an independent news website, part of the media consortium behind the revolution listed the minister himself as a potential target. this in 2017 when he was not a member of the ruling party. the pegasus progroject has listed the name of the opposition leader. ghandi was targeted in the run-up to the 2019 general election. modi's bjp won by a landslide. calls

when asked, are you using pegasus? but when you have evidence hard evidence, others in the formal forensic form and you look at the range of, of it, it's hard to, it's hard to think of any other government anywhere in the world, which would be showing this kind of interest in such a range of didn't subject officials in madagascar, they have stopped to plot to assassinate president andre raj. alina, according to the attorney general, several foreign nationals and citizens had been arrested though no further details were given. a number of protesters and one police officer been killed in demonstrations against water shortages in iran. it's happened in the oil rich province of cruise, this done on waters of the gulf and also bordering iraq. crown vented their anger for the 7th night in a row. has been violence reported at several rallies, and according to local media, solidarity protests have been held and several other cities as iran suffers, it's worse drives and 50 years on the runs president hassan ronnie's responded

understand, how does pegasus infiltrate a phone? what can, can he do? and how do we know that our phone has been hacked? well originally when we started studying pegasus in 2016, a target would have to click on a link to via s m s. in order to facilitate the infraction of the phone. if you didn't click on the link, the phone wouldn't get infected and wouldn't be able to be monitored. but around 2017 or 2018. and i saw a group appears to be released, a major update to the pegasus system, which allows governments to hack into phones with a so called 0 click technique. this means the target does not need to click on anything. they don't need to take any action. their phone could be sitting on a table one minute, it's fine at the next minute attacked, and once attacked, the government can access everything on the phone. they can get messages, they can turn on the microphone and looking into conversations happening near the telephone. they can take pictures through the camera. they can take passwords, contacts, track gps, location. basically, anything you ca

emmanuel macron's phone was targeted by pegasus spyware. the intelligence service of morocco is behind the hack. since the misuse of the pegasus software -- the list of victims, other gernment victims in france were also potential victims of the spyware that can take over phone, access files, document, photos, calls and copy passwords. >> the latest victims revealed in this far reaching spy scandal. the top of the french government. according to the investigation of forbidden stories into the use of pegasus spyware. a phone belonging to president emmanual macron has been targeted by the moroccan secret service since 2017. the former prime minister Édoua philippe was also mked for surveillance, along with 14 other ministers. it's easily install. almost impossible to detect, and harder to get rid of. what isore it gives the tacker access to the victims phone allowing them to take complete control. >> it's pretty much turning your phone into something that is spying on you all the time in your pocket, which is pretty invasive and extreme the

ah, ah ah, ah, it was meant to fight terrorism and crime, but many governments ended up using pegasus fireware to attack journalists inactive . it. some world leaders have also been targeted. so how much of us right is advance technology to privacy and human rights. this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm rob matheson governments have been hacking into people's privacy for years. huge, officially sanctioned listening stations dotted around the world, sucking in vast amounts of phone signals and other data on picking out trigger words or phrases as well as hijacking information. some of the technology to do it is for sale and tens of thousands of politicians. journalists, lawyers, and activists. so being targeted the systems called pegasus, someone who's really spyware, company called n s o group. thanks evidence collected by the parents based n g o forbidden stories. and the rights group, amnesty international. it seems that are 50000 people whose phones have been selected. most of the numbers were in gulf countries and north africa, but others include india, pakis

. >> finally, the fallout from the pegasus global spyware scandal continues. more than 1000 indian phone numbers have reportedly been listed including activists, journalists, and politicians. >> this is the office of india news organization. once members of the international media consortium that has been leading investigations into the ongoin global pegasus scandal. it's editor-in-chief was among those whose phone had been hacked into. except me and my phone, and they showed me targeted as a criminal -- that is me and my phone. >> pegasus was supposedly created to target criminals and terrorists, but reports reveal they ended up seriously using it as a weapon. >> mexico and india are two democracies on the list extensively using pegasus against their own people. the strikes are the very root of democracy in india. you have the goverent of rance investigating. you have the government of israel saying they are investigating allegations, but you have the government of india burying its head in the sand, pretending that all of this is a conspiracy and that all of

and so as pegasus system targeting journalist lawyers, even family members of target, journalists who are murdered and cartel related hits even research scientists and international investigators into mass disappearance in 2018. we produced a report basically showing the scope of n s o a global client base and the operations. we found more than 30 clients at that time. who are undertaking, as you know, as in more than 40 countries around the world. shortly thereafter, as one of your guests mentioned, we were able to track down canadian permanent resident omar abdul aziz. we determined that his phone was hacked and we didn't realize it at the time. but omar and jamal shoji were very close confidence and they were communicating for months over what they thought was a secure messaging app. they didn't realize that saudi operators were effectively eavesdropping on everything they were doing. let me interrupt you there because there is something that does occur to me. it is clear that there has been tangible evidence of what has been going on since that point. and yet, here we are in 2021.

and then the next day they were on the lease pegasus apparently also played a role in the killing of saudi journalist jim aka shop g turkeys. chief investigator was on the list of potential targets. the spiral was also linked to cash or cheese to be on same. these rarely firm and i so, and says pegasus was only deployed against terrace and criminals and says it would end collaboration if the spyware was misused. the company denies any connection took a showcase murder, subtle japan. you doesn't know the extent of the damage to his sources. when asked about it, surveillance, the hungarian government said it followed all laws. earlier we spoke and pub and ago he's the chairman of the international commission on cybersecurity law at supreme court of india. we asked him why government would want to use this particular software. the purpose of god once clearly is to continue to concentrate in the hands of nation states. and therefore, the go ahead and use these kinds of technology tools which help them to surveil and their own will to intercept and their own convenience and to potentially

so the company behind pegasus, but a leak database of $50000.00 numbers including hundreds belonging to its citizens. the most prominent is opposition, politician role gandhi. his mobile number was targeted during parliamentary elections and 201819. others include dozens of journalists and election commission, official businessmen, diplomats even to ministers in the current modi government performance supreme court staff, who accused the chief justice in deer of abuse also targeted. the justice is now a member of parliament with the governing party. more from elizabeth per item. now she, the new delhi, where the press club of india were journalists holding a protest following reports of the funds of more than 300 indians, including journalists, what hacked using the israeli made pegasus by where now the project, the director of the government's book of pegasus, is classified as a military grade cyber weapon, and it's found to say they only sell the technology to better government for the sole purpose of saving lives and preventing criminals and terror acts. but the list of people in

reporter: pegasus' developer and israeli firm says it sells the program to governments. so they can combat crime. but rights activists say nso does not check up on how its software is used. >> we need a global sanctions regime to prevent the export of technology like this to authoritarian regimes, because in the worst case scenario, this spyware puts press freedom in danger and lives at risk. reporter: this generalist says she will continue her reporting. azerbaijan's government is not commenting on the reports. brent: for more, i am joined by my guest a member of the european parliament with hungary's momentum movement. she joins me tonight from budapest. good to have you in the program we just heard ursula von der leyen say that if all this is true, it would be completely unacceptable for the european union. let's assume that today's reports are true. . what do you expect the e.u. to do? >> what the european union has to do is first of all seriously consider rulations concerning spyware software. i expect the european parliament to launch a full inquiry. this is a dark

investigation by more than a dozen news outlets, but the intrusion goes far beyond wiretapping, the pegasus mall where allows intelligence agencies to secretly activate the microphones and cameras of their targets phones, turning them into 24 hour surveillance devices. his smartphone was the target of a sophisticated spying operation in 2019 the hungarian investigative reporter sandwich. bonnie was spied on for months with pegasus software, according to a forensic analysis of his device and his own government may have been behind it. they could effect as all my emails, my calendars, my photos, my we d o, they could even turn on my, my microphone and camera. pegasus can be installed without the victim, doing anything, usually by an invisible message. one upon your colleagues was also under surveillance, according to an investigation by an international team of journalists. coordinated by the nonprofit group forbid and stories. several media organizations in germany took part. they analyzed records that included more than 50000 phone numbers, possible spying targets, apparently entered by cus

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by where now the project, the director of the government's book of pegasus, is classified as a military grade cyber weapon and it's found to say they only sell the technology to better government for the sole purpose of saving lives and preventing criminals and terror acts. but the list of people in india who follows allegedly hack include not just journalists, but major opposition figures a former election commissioner, a top political strategists, business people include ministers and the current governments, including the information minister. now the founders of the, in the news website wire, are among the more than 40 indian journalists whose fund allegedly hacked was also one of the 17 media organizations around the world which conducted the investigation and to help pegasus by way was being used in various countries. this is much one of the founders had to say either we do the privacy issue and the number not already already did that. that didn't come in on the board problem that i suspected they want to get to the bottom of it. now the government and that there was no evidence n

but around 2017 or 2018 in a so group appears to have released a major update to the pegasus system, which allows governments to hack into phones with a so called 0 click technique. this means the target does not need to click on anything. they don't need to take any action. their phone can be sitting on a table one minute, it's fine. the next minute attacked. and once attacked, the government can access everything on the phone. they can get messages, they can turn on the microphone and listen into conversations happening near the telephone. they can take pictures through the camera. they can take passwords, contacts, track gps, location. basically, anything you can do as the owner of the phone, or you can see the operator of the spyware can do or see a major hub for this technology is israel. so be israeli. government has for many years, encouraged the development of a local cyber industry, including companies like n s o group, as well as other companies that sell similar tools like candy room, which we published an investigation on last week. and this whole ecosystem of companies.

what is pegasus? it's a software created by an israeli company, and the company says it is designed to track terrorists and other criminals. the investigation reveals governments all over the world used this software to target opponents, whether journalists, opposition politicians, even activists, and it is all over the world. take a look at this from mexico to rwanda, to india. this was produced by the nonprofit forbidden stories. they are the ones who spearheaded this. the technical capacity was provided by amnesty international. >> that technology is a weapon, and what the investigation is showing is that the spyware is misused to such an extent we have a weapon that could blow u at any moment. it is undermining democracy. it is undermining human rights. it could be a threat to peace and security. it must be regulated. nick: in a statement, the nso group called "the washington post" story "flimsy." nso group is on a lifesaving mission, and the company will faithfully execute this mission undeterred

and so pegasus spyware. so that we can find out the links between the journalist and so go mainstream media and the military industrial complex. the persuade, their populations into wars that killed wound or displaced tens of millions of people. i'm not going to encourage buying on journalists and all. i think it's disgusting practice, but it has been going on for quite a long time. you pointed out to the beginning, the lawyers had inspired or gone by a private contractor. so could security company out of spain in the country, an embassy when julian massage was there. but on top of that, when there was a lot of journalists that came to visit julia, we had several journals with spider by this company, and including because they had to leave their phones with this company. for certainly they were used as infiltrated mist, malware and information was expected from that case because he's in spain. obviously we don't encourage buying on this either. but you know that the u. k. god, you and your old media partner

that contract telephones is known as pegasus. a data leak of tens of thousands of numbers revealed how journalists activist and politicians around the world were targeted by the israeli company. and ask those surveillance software. the cybersecurity firm says it has no control over what its clients do with this pegasus software, but activists in israel, demanding accountability, a thought about coming reports now from her celia. and so cyber surveillance system 1st came to light in 2017. i'm a claim, it was used to track and the gala mexican journalist, the israel based company star product is pegasus a software that can hack any smartphone regardless of the security level. and the ability that made and so very popular among many governments around the world. there is a possibility to hack a phone to gain complete control over it, without the person owning the phone, the smartphone, knowing anything of it. this includes this complete control includes full control of the camera. recordings, contacts e mails, all applications, and

and does that mean the pegasus has got a fingerprint on all those people's devices? we were able to identify some people and not try phone numbers in the least what we were able to see that there is a good role. the same behavior from those pain space customers. so company, well, that software not actually for tracking criminal terrorists, maybe they do so, but they are massively targeting germany, german or the other lawyers and all those people, all those figures of people playing a role in that country from abroad. and all those people who can at some point, the venture for those for okay. and part of the danger here is the fact that there is kind of like an in bill cloaking device if you will, because you cannot tell if your phone has been hacked. so if, for example, this information from pegasus goes back to the israeli intelligence services, but then presumably gets fed back to the israeli government. so we could have had a situation say what 33 and a bit years ago now where benjamin netanyahu is having a summit meeting with the you at the then us president don

no one has pegasus a day to leak tens of thousands of numbers reveals our journalists fact of a stan politicians around the world. but targeted by the israeli company and surveillance software and chinese diplomat deny that they gene is responsible for cyber attacks against western nations. the us, the u. k and other allies are accusing china protecting hackers gauging and what they call malicious cyber activity. including a breach of the microsoft exchange email server. earlier this year, german chancellor angle america list of visits, floods devastated regions in the west or the country. the cleanup is under way after it's worse, not sure, natural disaster in decades. let's get more on this now from stat boston who's in bad moves. the eiffel said just started off by giving us a sense of what the situation is like in that the devastation over your shoulder look. significance yeah, absolutely. the shift show you the scale of the disruption here and bottom, and so i feel you can see what has been washed away, but it's just 6 days ago there fraud and happy equipment now. and as you can

so apparently targeted by this pegasus spies software as a result of thought, the paris prosecutor has now opened an investigation into some of those potential data leaks. and those individuals that believe that they was spied on who had their phones checked and verify that they had this spite software on back. and in that least across the world, there are some 50000 numbers that have been revealed just in this database leak. but that could just be one small portion of the number that a truly been infected by the spies software. now that includes that $50000.00 list includes 13 heads of state including the president of south africa, president manuel macro and also the prime minister of pakistan. but on top of that, there are military heads of defense, they're all diplomats for foods he for country. so this is a real, huge leak and a huge scandal of individuals that apparently have been spied on for the last several years now. and i so which is the group behind the developing of the software, maintains the idea that this software is not being used maliciously by state actors . and as a

about private surveillance companies of revelations about the alleged widespread reach of the so called pegasus spyware. developed by israeli surveillance firm in its own group. the delayed reaction from the media could arguably be linked to the demon zation of where helix founded julian s. andre, according to the u. n. a still being tortured in h. m. p. bill marsh in london. but is this the latest example of what we're helix? we've been exposing the private surveillance for a decade. joining me now from reykjavik in iceland is where helix editor in chief christian robinson. christian, thanks so much for coming on. i'll get to whether i should throw my phone away in a 2nd and to your jail. co founder julian assange in a moment. but what do you make of all these journalists suddenly talking about and a so group, when, when you, when you were doing this, i don't know a decade ago, was it? yeah, i mean, we did the point about the seriousness this business to 10 years ago, almost 10 years ago. but i mean, i'm not going to say, i'm important story and now i mean they do have evidence of wrongdoing.

in 2019 the hungarian investigative reporter sandwich bonnie was spied on for months with pegasus software, according to a forensic analysis of his device. and his own government may have been behind it. they could do that because all my emails, my calendars, my for those, my windows, they could even turn on my, my microphone on camera measures pegasus can be installed without the victim, doing anything, usually by an invisible message. one upon your colleagues was also under surveillance, according to an investigation by an international team of journalists. coordinated by the nonprofit group forbid, in stories. several media organizations in germany took part. they analyze records that included more than 50000 phone numbers, possible spying targets, apparently entered by customers of the israeli software developer. and so they included human rights activists, government critics, and journalists we thought, find some people, some human rights activists. one day decided to go in district and mexico to protest, and then the next day they were on the lease pegasus apparently also played a ro

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