some people in washington think you mean joe manchin when you say president joe because of his power. what happened in tennessee, and what could biden do here? then we will talk to the union leader about whether he has spoken to mahin. katherine: there was a really interesting hail mary rescue of an antibiotic plant in tennessee. it was purchased, -- essentially about to be mothballed, purchased for one dollar by u.k. company who sent a guy named david argyle to the tenssee antibiotics planto say, if this plant isn't viable, what did we buy? he got there and saw incredible esprit de corps among the workers. they had a critical mission, making antibiotics for the u.s. market. argyle got creative, and he is australian. he placed the plant into chapter 11 bankruptcy, then working with tnessee elected officials, he got the plant designated as critical irastructure under a federal agency called cisa. and then, working with a team, he found an erican buyer for it. now the a has an antibiotics plant,at a time when almost 100% of our penicillin is made overseas. we now have a functioning anti

he has asked president biden to ask joe manchin to do that. there's no one more influential in this mix than james clyburn. and he says he has his own private communication with joe manchin and it's going well. >> what i heard him say is get it done. however you need to get it done, get it done. i don't want to get into the distraction of a procedural question around a filibuster. we know the filibuster was being used by segregationists from mississippi for many years to impede progress. we shouldn't have that discussion. the only discussion i want to have is get it done, the rights of votership be protected at all costs. we cannot surely live up to the mandates of our constitution if we're not willing to ensure the protection of our votes. >> derek johnson, president of the naacp, i'm honored to have you join us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> and coming up, another texan crusading for voting rights, beto o'rourke will join us next. , beto o'rourke will join us next. washed your hands a lot today? probably like 40 times. hand

guest: joe biden lost west virginia, big. joe manchin continues to win there. he has his own unique brand. without him, they don't have 50 votes. if they don't have 50 votes, they can't pass anything. manchin knows this. he has talked about raising the corporate rate to 25%, which is not the 28% joe biden has talked about. he has talked about rolling back some other trump tax cuts for the wealthy. he has not been on board with bernie sanders and his $6 trillion package that sanders is trying to sell this week. he hasn't given his blessing to all of the things joe biden has proposed, for trillion dollars over the next eight years. their childcare subsidies, community college and big climate initiatives. the climate piece i think might be the hardest to get past joe manchin. when this guy ran percent of first time around, the climate bill passed the house. that was a signal to these west virginia folks that he was going to have their back on issues he cared about. host: now he serves alongside major pusher of that bill in the house. guest: this reconciliation pac

>> the only suspense, if it is that, but your rating to here is what does joe manchin think? he's not a member of the budget committee, but mark warner and joe manchin are together on that bipartisan version of the bill. they're very close together. i doubt that the budget committee would have ignored would joe manchin thinks in coming to this agreement. even if they did, even if joe manchin, as this proceeds, wants to in some ways reduce the number, that is still possible within the way this moves, but i have to believe that joe manchin's interests were strongly represented by mark warner. which you want to do is come out of the budget committee with the shape of what it is really going to be. that information is available to you -- bernie sanders is in the meeting every week. a brilliant construction by chuck schumer. he's in the meeting every week, bernie sanders, with joe manchin, and chuck schumer's leadership team which at that table has joe manchin, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, it has ten senators who need to be in a room together for chuck schumer to understand e

joe manchin represents a state where joe biden did not win a single solitary county. let that sink in for a second varied joe biden did not win a single county in west virginia and nancy pelosi would not win a neighborhood other than the philosophy department at west virginia university. so joe manchin is not going to vote for what "the squad" wants and for people who like representative government and representatives who actually vote like their state wants, they should love joe manchin, because it's a ruby red state. >> bret: all right, meantime, the supreme court coming in with this big ruling on arizona. let's take a listen to the arizona attorney general and the president on this. >> this is all about protecting the integrity of elections and making sure that states have the ability to conduct the time, place, and manner of their elections the way they want. at what we've seen from the left, even with hr1 and s1 is an attempt to nationalize elections. >> president biden: it is critical thateake a distinction between voter suppression and suspension. the ability o

it is a terrible look for joe manchin. i think it sends the wrong signal, not only to those texas democrats who are fighting hard for federal legislation and to stop the texas legislation, it sends the wrong message about what democrats should be about. >> yeah, we should note you just said something also important here i think substantively. right now we have the huge reconciliation package, the big infrastructure bill. there's a question about how aggressive it will be in the climate aspects, and here you have what would be the 50th vote for this. as "the texas tribune" reports, the host committee includes titans of the texas oil and gas industry. some of these donors made occasional contributions to democrats who are either moderate or serve on committees with oversight of the energy sector. gives you a little window into what the sort of climate hawk forces are up against. >> oh, it does. i mean manchin is there, chairing the energy and natural resources committee in the senate. the letter that went out, the fundraisin

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representative israel, were you surprised that your colleagues did not ask joe manchin about the senate filibuster rule?

joe manchin seems to be on board. it remains to be seen what else mentions -- agreement is conditional on because, for example, he has been opposed to including climate in reconciliation. we'll see if the lives of millions of documented immigrants in this country are also going to be dependent on what deponent what democrats may choose or may choose not to include in the package or how joe manchin might be feeling that day about protecting millions of undocumented immigrants living in this country in uncertainty. >> one of the things that struck me in your piece and one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you even before this daca news broke is there's so little understanding on the part of many about why people in this country are undocumented. as i was watching yesterday, many of the daca recipients, many of the dreamers i follow contend with that news. they kept coming back to explaining to people why they can't just apply for citizenship, why that is not an option, why the system does not work that way. and you wro

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then he could go be a bridge to joe manchin and tried to bring joe manchin on board and saying hey, look, it's not this big scary thing that you originally heard about. here are some things we could sell as moderates. they don't yet have marc a deal, they are talking about hammering out something tomorrow night. they really want to have something ready to give to the budget crunchers of the staff, on thursday, so they can have the weekend to really righted and be ready to go as soon as next week with the committee. with joe manchin here, he is sort of still his own planted. the senate, ever senators their own planted. joe manchin is almost his own galaxy right now. when you talk about something like climate change, to get this gun board, this is a guy who before he ran for senate, when he ran the first time around, he took a copy of the campaign trade climate bill, the biggest in history, and he shot it with a gun. that sent a signal to people that they could trust him to take over their interests. to get him on board, you are gonna have to do some things in there, that make him and make

manchin and try to bring joe manchin on board and say, hey, look, it is not this big, scary thing that you originally heard about. here are some things we can sell as moderates, but they don't yet have mark warner on board, they don't yet have a deal. they're talking about coming back again tomorrow night and hopefully hammering out something tomorrow night, and they really want to have something ready to give to the budget crunchers, the staff on thursday so they can have the weekend to really write it and be ready to go as soon as next week in the committee. you know, with joe manchin here, you know, he's sort of still his own planet. you know, in the senate every senator is their own planet, and joe manchin is almost his own galaxy right now. when you talk about something like climate change, to get this guy on board, this is a guy who before he ran -- or when he ran for senate the first time around, he took a copy of the cap in trade climate bill, the biggest climate bill in history, and he shot it with a gun. that sent a signal to folks in west virginia that they could trust him t

what does joe manchin have to say about that? we have two top senate democrats joining us today to talk about it. >>> speaking of west virginia's senior center, today joe manchin meets with a group of texas lawmakers who left their state to lobby washington on voting rights. what it means for the future of the filibuster and the republican efforts to change election rules across several states. >>> also, the u.s. military is sounding new alarms about the american withdrawal from afghanistan, after 20 years of blood and treasure, will that country soon belong to the taliban? >>> and a military matter closer to home as the top u.s. general sounds off on donald trump's attempts to subvert our democracy? in the reported words of the joint chiefs chairman, they may try but they're not going to f'ing succeed. joe has the morning off, and willie those quotes attributed to general mark milly. they're something. and there's a lot. >> astounding quotes coming out of the new book "i alone can fix it". we'll talk to the authors in a moment a

for a senator like joe manchin, west virginia, i have not checked the stats, but there is not that many nature -- major cities which are bearing the brunt of this type of increase in violence, it's a rural state so i'm sure he is under less pressure to put in more background check laws and try to take illegal guns off the street. i'm sure that reconciliation package will have more funding for cops and making sure that they reform as well, because you don't want the repeat of where african americans in our country feel like the police are targeting them with george floyd and countless other instances over the years. they are trying to figure out exactly what's in that infrastructure package and how much money they should spend on childcare and other soft infrastructure because they have not finished that infrastructure framework for the overall package. they are trying to have the two things move it once even though biden has said that he wanted to sign just the hard infrastructure and having not tided as closely to the reconciliation act. host: i know you have a busy day and week ahead,

and that frustrated people like joe manchin. do you know what it is like for the house writing and passing the voting rights act? >> i think senator manchin has laid out some things he would support and kind of lists. i think it's one that we should adopt and put into legislation as quickly as possible. when it comes to hr4, restoring the john lewis voting rights act, we're going to move pretty quickly on that. there have actually been discussion information the last few days to move up the timetable. we're trying to make sure we have the right evidentiary record making as foolproof as possible because we know it's going to be challenged in the supreme court. the redistricting data, for example, will be going out very soon. it would be good to have the voting rights back back in district before they're drawn. and there are other things, like what's happening in texas, we have what has to be cleared by the department of justice first. so, i think we need to move quickly. that's something i've been pushing for. and i'm going to co

joe manchin. have you had a conversation with joe manchin? has your group talked to joe manchin, and do you think he understands how serious this matter is and what role he can play in fixing this? >> well, i'm not troubled by u.s. senators coming to the state of texas to raise money. it happens virtually every week. we had a very productive meeting with joe manchin. i wasn't there, but we dispatched a delegation of our members. joe manchin is a former secretary of state and values voting rights. that was the big takeaway from this meeting. and we're going to continue discussions -- pardon me -- on the hill with senators and representatives to make sure we get meaningful legislation that protects the freedom to vote for millions of texans. >> representative anchia, it's good talking to you again. i never thought we would be talking as regularly as we are, but this is a going and we are appreciate the efforts you are taking in order to take our democratic voting rights. raphael anchia of texas. john capeheart will host a town hall to push back

that's from "the washington times" focusing on joe manchin as we've been focusing so much on joe manchin amid these various packages that move through the senate, especially as democrats try to move them with just democratic support to avoid a republican filibuster in the senate. getting your reaction to all of it. james is a republican out of georgia. good morning. >> caller: good morning. you know, i'm just a little bit concerned about the way -- we talk about the taxes, i just heard you say joe manchin want a bill that would eliminate the trump tax cut, but the trump tax cut helped the working people and when they talk about taxes, they talk about taxes the core operations when they ought to be taxing the ceos. every time you tax the core operation that's why everything goes up. everything don't go up. you tax the core operations that tax is going to be added on and you're going to pay for it somewhere else. and the people that's going to pay for it is the hard working folk that's going to work every day. >> james, you would be okay with increased taxes on high earners, but not increa

next hour they'll be talking with the one and only joe manchin. he is a senator, of course, these advocates see as their one and only hope of enacting some kind of new voting legislation. why? he currently doesn't want to change senate rules. that's what would need to happen to move that forward. priscilla, what are sources telling you about what they realistically expect out of this discussion? >> reporter: yeah, that is a great question, hallie. that's something that they are hoping to figure out, hoping that with all of them being there in d.c., it will sort of being able to move the needle with joe manchin in some way in terms of the filibuster and what can be done there. but while those lawmakers are in d.c., i want to talk about what's happening here in texas. activists are still on the ground, continuing to press the lawmakers who remain here. i want to give you a look here. tons of clergy members and folks praying this morning. they've been praying for about the past half hour, praying to cover those lawmakers who are in washington, d.c.,

and joe manchin isn't just opposed to getting ridn' of the filibuster and not r keen on dealing with climate change on carbon emissions in this reconciliation debate. you're in a state that's on fire and what's your response to seeing your fellow democratic senator joe manchin on a fund-raising tour in texas taking smiling pick taurus with republican oil and gas donors? >> yeah. ias again, california is not just literally and figuratively on fire,fi but california has led e way in terms of policy and not just ideas. california's shift to renewable energy has proven that, yes, it can work. you can create good-paying jobs along the way, and it serves as a model for us to build on for a national plan and that's what the debates and discussions are all about, and with all due respect to my colleague senator manchin. he was a key player in putting together the bipartisan infrastructure package. we knew -- most of us knew that that wasn't going to be enough, and as a member of the budget committee for, you know, days and days and hours on end, literally chuck schumer with my right and bern

i did want to ask you about something senator joe manchin said. he is saying to majority leader chuck schumer saying in part, "if the bipartisan infrastructure deal falls part, everything falls apart. both of them are extremely important. when one falls apart, how do you move on the other one"? do you agree with your colleague senator joe manchin that in is no bipartisan infrastructure bill, the human infrastructure bill will also probably fall part? >> joe manchin is very committed to having a bipartisan infrastructure bill done. in my mind, those two items, the traditional infrastructure bill and the american family plan which is the other infrastructure bill, in my mind, those two went together. and i consider what joe said to simply reinforce that. i also think that what he said is a way to push the infrastructure negotiations to some sort of, i hope, conclusion so that we can get on with both infrastructure bills. >> but if the bipartisan one doesn't pass, will the other one also fall apart? >> i think that -- if that happens, it will be more

when i watch for is, what does joe manchin say that bernie sanders cannot live with? and what is bernie sanders say joe manchin cannot live with? and i am not hearing that right now. i'm not hearing a red line being drawn by either bernie sanders or joe manchin in a way that prevents the two of them coming to an agreement. and for me, they represent both ends of the democratic party in the house and the senate. and if they can get together on something, that is going to be the bill. >> no, i think that's right. i think one of the issues will simply be the size of it. the number manchin has thrown out is two trillion dollars. the number that bernie has thrown out is 5 to 6 trillion. i have a suspicion that both of them are at a negotiating position. funnily enough, president biden who seems to have a knack for finding the center of the democratic party proposed something around 4.5 trillion dollars. and they're just gonna be arguments about the number. there will be arguments about the size and increase in the corporate tax. but again, they're not arguing about the dif

it means joe manchin is on board with this bill. yes, he will want to see the details but he is on board. senator manchin had previously indicated that he didn't want it to go. above $2 trillion. bernie sanders was ensissing that it should be in the $6 trillion range. now they've both compromised to get to this point. as of tonight, not a single democrat has laid down a red line that will prevent this bill from passing. senator sanders framed it this way. >> i would say the most consequential piece of legislation being proposed since the great depression and fdr. it is complicated, it is difficult. i believe it is what the american people want. and i hope very much that if we are successful, people will say that this is the moment where we restored faith in our government, that it can work for ordinary people. not just the wealthy. >> i find it easy to describe the process but it is difficult to describe the degree of legislative difficulty in what we are watching tonight and the precision required. we have never seen anything like

that will be tough to get joe manchin on board. you have to figure out how he could go back to west virginia and say we are going to be able to clean up our abandoned mines. we will have jobs here with renewable energy. we will have better benefits, whatever it takes. what will it take to get joe manchin to agree to some of these things. host: we mention president biden is heading to philadelphia to talk about voting rights. major legislation is awaiting action, hr one is what it was in the house. what is the fate of s1? guest: it is effectively dead. it is not dead dead. i think what is really happening is they are continuing to hold hearings. they are continuing to highlight the issue. there is some bipartisan talks going on around the john lewis voting rights act, a much narrower piece. then you have the complication of the supreme court ruling continuing to narrow the use. there is really no appetite for mitch mcconnell or his lieutenants to test this issue. they think these new voting laws are fine. people can still go out and

it was joe manchin who also forced $15 minimum wage out of the recovery deal. it was in there, the house passed it. that had been in the republic -- recovery plan the president put forward, 32 million would have had black people lifted from the living wage, 62% of people would have been helped. and in west virginia alone, over 350,000 people less than a living wage. so he voted against his own constituency, so 900,000 people in west virginia who are poor, the majority happened to be white. now you have him and kyrsten sinema, and there may >> want all of this segment online. we leave this discussion and take you a gush take you a discussion about giving visas to afghan allies. >> thank you all for joining us today. today's discussion is visas for afghan partners. what does the united states always afghan allies? -- alw

manchin and senator cinema seems to be more vivid every day as you fight this battle in texas. what would you ask of them if you could speak to them tonight? >> thank you lawrence, we're in the fourth quarter this is a now or never moment for voting rights in america. we need every men and women to stand up for america with a senate deadlock at 50 50, the ballots of our democracy lies in the hands of senators manchin and senator cinema. this is time to take a step forward for our country, our democracy depends on you. we need you to be here for our democracy. let's end the filibuster, let's

i want to begin with your meeting with senator joe manchin and just what you believe was accomplished in that meeting. >> thanks for having me. well, first of all, he was very gracious with his time. he sat down for over an hour with us. and he wanted to know about things that were in the bill that the legislature has taken up now twice and will take it up again, so a total of three times. but we wanted to hear about things that were important to us, and we told him having a provision in a bill that congress can pass would be pre-clearance. that's very important for a state like texas that has a long history of discrimination, of gerrymandering, intentionallile,

what do you want to say to joe manchin? >> i think senator manchin is saying he's not going to make changes. i can't speak for him. i can't get into his mind. as a southern girl who spent a lot of my years many the south working on civil rights and voting rights, we know from history that elected officials do change their minds and it's up to the voters, we the people, to make sure we make the case to democrats and republicans. we will engage them to do their jobs. we need you to lead. we don't need you to look at process over people. >> great to talk to you. i know that you remain hopeful, and i know that is giving a lot of activists energy to continue this. thank you very much. >> can i just say this. losing is not an option. we have to have federal legislation to protect our democracy and we'll continue to stay in the streets to do that. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, new details about how the plot to assassinate haiti's president played out. cnn speaks to people inside the country about their

today, the day after his meeting with the texas democrats, senator joe manchin reportedly went to texas, and went there for a fundraiser for himself. and at that fundraiser, many of the contributors are republican political contributors to donald trump as well as republican governor -- texas's republican governor and lieutenant governor who are both trying to crush the efforts of the texas democrats who senator manchin met with yesterday. "texas tribune" reports the host committee includes titans of the texas oil and gas industry, many of whom donate almost exclusively to republicans. but there is a prominent democrat along the host, mayor bill white, manchin's office did not respond for requests for comment. they crossed the potomac river into alexandria, virginia, where in 1935, five black men were arrested for the crime of applying for a library card. here's texas state representative sin phonia thompson outside that library today. >> haven't we done enough? have we paid the price enough? what is it going to take for us to be americans in this country? i am an american and i want to

number two, i don't know, i said joe manchin's name more times in 2021 than i've said. like bernie sanders, i'm fed up with saying joe manchin's name and kerstin sinema's name. i don't get it. we were told when they try to do a deal, when they bring something bipartisan and it fails, they will see the light. well, we saw it on s 1 where manchin got onboard. i'm no fan of joe manchin, but the stuff he offered was reasonable, a building block, better than nothing, and yet he couldn't get a single republican on board. even if he says the john lewis bill was more important, he has one person on born, lisa murkowski, as far as i can see. they're never going to have their realization. forget the republicans in good faith. i mentioned this on the show before. kerstin sinema, 2010. there's a video that's gone viral online. she said we must forget about the full option of 60. we must use it for good. that's the kyrsten sinema i agree with, 11 years out of date. one thing i would say important, joe biden. let's not let joe biden get away with it. sorry, the president has a respon

some of the texas democrats met with senator joe manchin today. >> did you press him on the idea that y'all were floating the other day about trying to make a carveout in the filibuster to pass something like this with just democratic votes? >> look, it's an plenty sitting in the room. he knows senate maneuvers and mechanics better than any of us. we'll leave the tactics up to him. >> but are you convinced what he is going to try to do will protect what you want to do? >> i'm convinced -- yes, he believes in the same voting rights that we do. >> joining our discussion now, texas state representatives celia israel and erin zweener. representative israel, were you surprised that your colleagues did not ask joe manchin about the senate filibuster rule? >> hi, lawrence. no, i'm not. i believe we -- you know, it's really just a time to test senator manchin not on where his heart is but on where our heart is. that's why we're here is to tell our texas story about how horrible the bill is that we're attempting to kill and how we need him to do everything possible to do something. it may not

joe manchin might be talking as we speak. what is he saying on this? as mike points out he's one of the people that democrats will be focusing on as they look to get the big package through. >> reporter: that's right. he is speaking now and i don't think his answer will be satisfactorily but not in the negative. he's telling the reporters he wants to make sure this $3.5 trillion package is credibly paid for. we don't have the sound to turn around. i can tell you this is going to be an ongoing discussion for democrats. mamplgin has concerns about the white house raising taxes on the wealthy, on corporations to pay for this reconciliation package whatever size it turns out to be. those concerns remain. likewise, kyrsten sinema, the other moderate squeaky wheel on some of these issues that progressives in particular the biden administration tried to push, her office came out with a statement said she's going to look deeper beyond the top line number, wants to see the priorities and what money goes to arizona before she commits to anything related to a $3.

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but will joe manchin ever support it where he'll agree to a carve out of the filibuster. that seems unlikely. when you say the media portrayed the bill as being a great thing, i think the media has -- if you read closely, they also point out that it's a message aing bill. hr4, the john lewis act, is something a little different. that would reinstate the voting rights act that congress let expire and never acted on. howie: ten seconds for a response. >> the media maybe are not exclusively monolithic but maybe sufficiently so that you can characterize their behavior as partisan. they're not allowing debate on this. the big problem in america, it's not expanding voting without having anti-fraud measures but precisely the opposite. we need to make sure we can trust our elections, winners and losers alike. howie: thanks very much for joining us this sunday. up next, a flood of anti-trump information is raising allegations against the former president. why the media can't seem to let it go. [ echoing ] some of us were born for this. to protect people. to help them save. with a

the one senator they're targeting over and over is senator joe manchin of west virginia, the most powerful player in this debate. he has welcomed them into the office and they have felt good about their conversations with him and felt he's been receptive. but then at the end of the week, this is sort of the coe da of all ofhe friend si and excitement, we learn joe manchin atnded a fundraise for the houston, texas, where most co-hosts were republicans, who have given to the governor, the speaker, who are the arch nem cease ofhe democrats. sahil: manchin will take all the meetings, listen to everyone but at the end of the day he refuses to budge on the filibuster. that's where the voting rights advocates have ahallenge. yamiche: i want to circle back, before we go to the coup news, because obviously we have to get there the vice president, you cover her closely. it's part of the reason we wanted you on tonight, you are sort of a kamala harris whisperer. tell me what's going on in her office. there's reports of dysfunction. how does that connect to her ability to get something done on voting

joe manchin is open minded. so first though they have to pass the $1.2 trillion infrastructure package, that is going to be on the floor for sometime and we'll see if they could get it through to keep their bipartisan coalition together to do that. >> thank you for the reporting. >>> let's bring in democratic senator bob casey of pennsylvania. good morning and thanks for being here. let's just start. i saw you listening intently to what joe manchin said. what do you make of that? >> i think it is very consistent with what joe manchin said yesterday when we were gathering for our caucus discussion about this new breakthrough to have a bipartisan 67 vote infrastructure bill move forward. but it is consistent with what i've heard across our caucus. we are focused on moving forward and the first step forward is making sure that we could advance this bipartisan bill. that is essential. but then ultimately right after that we're going to move to a process to move forward on a budget resolution. now that is the first s

it's on kyrsten sinema and joe k manchin. you're right, we only have 40 votes. it's your responsibility not to go out and get 60, but it's your responsibility to go out and get two and make it 50 so we s actually have -- if it's that consequential, if you're going to get a speech that that's consequential, get two votes. >> you're a young political talent. you could be sitting in that chair one day. tell me exactly what that means. what does that look like? how does he compel joe manchin who has made very clear that he's never going to vote -- he said again today never against the -- how does he compel him to do that? it seems to me he's doing what he can do, which is to turn up the heat rhetorically and work behind the scenes to try and move manchin and sinema to a place where, you know, where they are willing to consider this if they can. and the fact is, joe manchin isn't being hurt politically in any way by taking the posture that he's taken. i get frustrated with this notion that, well, just do something. you've got to do something. nobody knows who is sayi

if joe manchin votes for this, that's exactly with the voters of west virginia are going to get. if there should be no more bipartisan talks on anything, none, zero. it was so embarrassing to see how romney and company were snookered and that infrastructure deal. they so enjoyed the media adulation they got that they didn't see where this was going. they didn't see they were being used as props to set up the main act which is unfolding right now. somewhere tonight bernie sanders is smiling. and that's all you need to know, that's the angle. three of the senators under the most intense spotlight as i mentioned, manchin, kyrsten sinema, and kelly. to west virginians want a war on energy, do arizonans on the border want mass amnesty? we thought we would ask a few leaders from those states. journeyman i was the west virginia attorney general and the arizona attorney general. manchin has positioned himself as the kingmaker, the most important man in washington they described him as. what message should he be hearing from west virginians over this monstrosity of a bill we do not need.

i keep thinking about joe manchin as you were reading that. his concern about pushing through a voting rights bill is that it would lead to more division. you have mitch mcconnell there saying he feels like joe biden's language was division around voting rights. democrats, of course, look at that and say that is mitch mcconnell. democrats obviously know where he has been and where republicans have been all along on this issue. the big question still remains, the filibuster and what joe manchin would do on the filibuster. he has been steadfast in saying he doesn't want to have a sort of special carveout on voting rights on the way they did with judicial appointments as well as cabinet officials in 2013 and 2017. that's been the big question. you saw joe biden, he's remained silent on the filibuster, essentially not wanting to come out and say it should be scrapped, a special carve-out for voting rights. you have democrats wanting him to do more. they were pleased with his speech. a lot of progressives still want him to use the filibuster word,

senator joe manchin has said i have not seen a single document yet. how do you expect me to give my blessing for this to go ahead? this procedural stuff. they would be debating this legislation. this is what some of the holdup is. the senate moderates, the democrat moderates are saying we will go for the partisan infrastructure deal and we will also vote for reconciliation. as long as the progressives sign up for the bipartisan. the progressives are saying, if you do not put what we like in it, we will tank your bipartisan deal. it will be some interesting days and weeks in washington. jonathan: what is the ultimate objective of wednesday? >> to get the bill on the floor to start debating it. republican senators arson, we want to make sure -- are saying we want to get right, not fast. he is saying, we might need a few more days. they want to make sure when it comes to the floor, they can get it to the procedural vote in order for it to begin debate. they say it is not even ready for that yet. potentially, senator schumer's timeline might be pushed bac

i want to begin with joe manchin in your meeting with him and what you believe was accomplished there? >> thanks for having me. senator manchin was gracious with his time, he sat down for over an hour. he wanted to know about things that were in the bill that the legislature has taken up twice and will take up again. my total of three times. we wanted to hear about things that were important to us, and we told him that having the provision in the bill, that congress can pass, would be pre-currents. that's important for state like texas that has a long history of discrimination, a gerrymandering, intentionally, and texas always ends up in courts when it comes to voting rights and all these issues. he was in agreement that something has to be done. we have to make sure that voting rights are protected. he knows that the voting rights act has been chipped away, before you know it, it will no longer is exist. it would be detrimental to states like texas and many others in the south. >> did senator manchin mentioned to you that he will be visiting his state as i would yesterday, and if i w

>> well, i have had extensive conversations with joe manchin. i like joe manchin. we have been friends for a long time. we used to do a lot of these kinds of chores together, just like i did with joe biden. so both of us have developed a great deal of patience with each other. and so i think that joe has made me a little bit sensitive to the filibuster. i wanted to get rid of the whole thing, but he convinced me that there is a place for extended debate on legislative issues. i am hopeful that i can convince him that we ought to treat constitutional issues the same way we treat budget issues. we move the budget forward without this filibuster application so as not to threaten the credit of the united states of america. and we ought to move forward on constitutional issues when it comes to the filibuster. so the filibuster i think has its place, but not when it comes to voting and other constitutional issues. so we'll see where we go from here. i am hopeful that joe manchin will do what i know that he is capable of doing and that is the right thing. >> hearing you s

he's suggesting the president was a big part of getting senator joe manchin to give the vote to get on the debate. then he said, listen, hr-4, the john lewis voting rights act, hasn't been written yet. suggested that's the area where the president is working very closely. he said biden and manchin are talking all the time to mauer sure that has enough broad support within the caucus that the president would also join manchin with potentially some modifications that would put more political heat on the near term saying we want to sign something sooner rather than later, perhaps this year on voting rights. >> very interesting. nbc's mike memoli, thank you as always for your great reporting. we really appreciate it. >>> let's go abroad. cuba has arrested demonstrators during the worst crisis the country has seen in decades. security forces are being deployed across the country. nbc news chief correspondent of affairs andra mitchell has the details. >> reporter: thousands of demonstrators spilling into the streets of cuba this weekend, calling for an end to the 62-year communist regime, ch

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yesterday several senators including raphael warnock and joe manchin met inside senate majority leader schumer's office in washington as the washington post reports to hash out the details of the bill which is expected to at least partially incorporate a framework assembled by senator joe manchin. today, senator warnock said he is encouraged by that meeting with democrats focus on getting something passed to protect voting rights. >> passing voting rights in my view is the most important thing we can do in this congress. now i know that there are a lot of pressing issues but the american houses, the house is built by democracy, if we don't preserve our democracy, strengthen peoples access to it then we will not have done our job. >> the texas democrats are still in washington urging lawmakers to pass federal legislation on voting rights today. some of the texas democrats testified to a house oversight subcommittee. >> i'm here because this is the seat of democracy and my people who i represent have a right to be able to vote, unabridged, just like on a few. >> the manager target has mo