matt gaetz: thank you. crowd: [chanting 'usa'] rep. matt gaetz: thank you. they don't come for the meek, they come for the fighters. it is easy to see now how fake all of that was after we saw mueller testify, but we had a bunch of republicans embracing mueller, paul ryan, and trey gowdy to an extent, we would just let him do his work and hope donald trump did not do anything wrong, and there were people like jim jordan and john ratcliffe and others. [cheers and applause] who saw through it. and by the way, you know who was another hero during the russia hoax, the best governor in america. [cheers and applause] oh they love him. they love him. they have more -- [cheers and applause] yeah, you hear that, ron? [cheers and applause] i remember campaigning with ron desantis when we could meet in an elevator and still have room for social distancing. [laughter] he has done a great job and shown good leadership. as we take this tour, we want to highlight america first leaders across the country who need that. when you willing to draft and with the establishment, t

>> why is it important to remove matt gaetz from the judiciary committee? >> matt gaetz is entitled to a presumption of innocence, but he is not entitled to sit on a house judiciary committee. that is an honor and a privilege. this committee has jurisdiction over the department of justice which has opened a criminal investigation in which matt gaetz is a subject. there is a clear conflict of interest, and leader kevin mccarthy must remove matt gaetz from the committee immediately. >> why are you asking for this to happen? why isn't kevin mccarthy speaking up and saying matt gaetz should step down from his committee assignments himself? >> i am on a house judiciary committee, and i believe this is a conflict of interest. i hope kevin mccarthy sees that this is a conflict of interest, and he should resign. >> matt gaetz should retire entirely? >> that would be in his best interest, but i will tell you these charges are very serious. if the allegations are true and representative gaetz did actually pay for sex with a minor or entice someone for sex, that is a

the first is that matt gaetz keeps saying he never paid for sex. we have witnesses who say differently. the second is that this doesn't just involve somebody who landed a no-show job at taxpayers expense. the congressman also expensed this particular hotel stay as a campaign expense. so we know donors footed the bill at least for this instance. >> and this business of corruption is central to this whole story. greenberg was charged with 33 things in the beginning. he's pleading guilty to six of them. a lot of what joel greenberg did was stuff on the public dime. access to stuff, things that he had access to because of an elected office that he held. so there's an overlay -- matt gaetz wants to convey this idea he's a man about town who parties a lot and had an active dating life. but in fact there's a level of corruption and use of public funds and resources that complicates this story. >> definitely. look, to understand why all this attention is on matt gaetz we have to understand who joel greenberg is. he's a local politician in florida who the s

why is it bad news for matt gaetz? well, greenberg may be in a position, as he has basically appeared to leak that he is in this position to give these federal prosecutors hard evidence they might use in court against congressman gaetz or where he said gaetz paid for sex with multiple women as well as a girl who was 17 at the time. i will tell you what i always tell you when we mention that reporting. nbc news has not obtained that letter. last month, greenberg's lawyer did kick up quite a whirlwind by suggesting that all of this makes gaetz uncomfortable. >> based on what my client knows. okay. >> see, i thought if i kept talking and talking, i would avoid these questions and not to say, um, i'm sure not gaetz is not feeling very comfortable today. >> as for matt gaetz, he has denied all allegations of criminal or misconduct or paying for sex or sex with a minor and he has not been charged with any crime. this is a very big development in the story we are following. i want to get to our legal experts and state attorne

gaetz and, if they do go after matt gaetz, they need greenberg. greenberg wants to be as indispensable to the feds as possible as the may 15th deadline approaches. >> that's an interesting theory. to be clear it's a legal theory. we haven't confirmed anything like that. when you have such a small circle of information, you have whatever the government obtained. government leaks happen. although in this context they would be criminal if delivered themselves. then you have the people on both ends of the communication. who benefits stone or greenberg? you're saying it may be greenberg trying to create more energy and pressure around the idea that he's got good stuff to give up. do you think there's any possible crime with what we've learned about the pursuit of this pardon or is it just unseemly pay for play? does it cross any lines in your view? >> i think it's unseemly. lobbyists promise the world and they want money. if roger stone was a government official and exchanged $250,000 for a pardon, then we would be talking about bribery. i think the mo

rudy giuliani, matt gaetz. that's the cancel culture. it's what's going on today. >> reporter: when his nationwide tour kicks off, gaetz will be joined by georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. when we asked about her support of gaetz, this republican seemed to waffle. marjorie taylor greene says she knows matt gaetz has done something wrong, should people believe her? would you believe her? >> i would tend to believe her. >> reporter: marjorie taylor greene is the scene of conspiracy theories and she says matt gaetz didn't do anything wrong, why would you believe her? >> i don't know that she would know. i don't know that she would know that completely. >> reporter: and about the tour's title -- this america first tour, what does that even mean? >> i have no idea. but again, it's a nice name. >> reporter: if you were matt gaetz right now facing these allegations, would you be out parading yourself around the country? >> of course not. because i would be trying to keep a low profile and trying to defend myself in the proper pay wh

it read tick tock matt gaetz. meanwhile the feds have questioned other witnesses in addition to greenberg who could help build a case against the congressman. investigators have interviewed more than a dozen people as part of the broader investigation. gaetz has not been charged and denied any wrongdoing and claims that he's never paid for sex. but as the probe intensifies, he's also joking about his potential criminal exposure in a sickness-inducing speech this weekend. he portrayed the alleged serious criminal conduct as nothing more than exchanging money for naughty favors. and he even compared paying money for sex to lawmakers who get money for their districts through legislation in congress. >> i am being falsely accused of exchanging money for naughty favors, yet congress has reinstituted a process that legalizes the corrupt act of exchanging money for favors. >> joining me now is katie phang, glenn kirschner and roger sollenberger. that's a lot of guf fauing and confidence, katie, for somebody who in additi

david, what do you make of that reaction compared to what republicans have said about matt gaetz? despite headlines getting worse by the day, there is zero push among members of his party to push him out or sideline him. >> alex, kevin mccarthy, job leader, is sticking with matt gaetz but distancing himself from liz cheney, as are other republicans. they're sticking with one of their own who is alleged to be involved in sex trafficking but are separating themselves from someone who said donald trump encouraged insurrection and deserved impeachment. watching the likes of lisa murkowski in alaska, it's a dispassionate conversation, but

matt gaetz says he's not guilty. so, him going out there and being out front is exactly what you would expect of him. the other thing there is an element of the trump republican party, it is an establishment style of thinking, listen to the lawyers and the defense lawyer, let them speak for you. that's not what matt gaetz is about. >> the ohio republican party is voting to center and call for resignation of congressman anthony gonzalez because, because, he voted to impeach trump. he told "the hill" this week if a prerequisite continuing to lie about our voters that liz is not the best fit. that's coming from his own party. that's what he gets. >> yeah, the purge is on. this is a nationwide effort to go after any republican that gets in line with trump. i think it is time to stop bringing our hands about this. there has to be the kind of determined organization, on the side of republicans who want to restore some kind of sanity to the party to walk a mount of defense to our institutions and bands band together with re

first i want to ask you about matt gaetz, who has been a staunch supporter of donald trump. do his troubles also weigh into any considerations by your group? >> you know, what i think is remarkable about the matt gaetz situation is somehow he remains a republican in good standing while somebody like liz cheney is being excommunicated from the party. when i was a young conservative, i sort of became a conservative in the clinton years, and back then the entire mantra of the republican party was the idea that character counts, that morality mattered. so, it is such a long trip from there to here. we're not only are the antics of people like matt gaetz tolerated but they're actually sort of celebrated. you see the way he talks about it there. he says naughty favors as though it's all a big joke. that is one of the ways donald trump has really completely reshaped the republican party and where voters no longer -- it just doesn't matter to them that much that this guy is not particularly a moral or upstanding citizen. >> i've got to say, when you pointed out naughty favors, it ju

to give prosecutors some big target in matt gaetz. this letter could enable prosecutors to get back up, you're implicating matt gaetz since long ago. although the letter is a truly terrible idea, nobody should write out their own crimes like this, oddly it could implicate gaetz down the line. >> the encrypted app and messages greenberg writes to stone, if i get you 250,000 in bitcoin, would that help or is this not a financial matter? stone replies, i understand all of this and have taken it into consideration. i will know more in the next 24 hours. i cannot push too hard because of the nonsense surrounding pardons. later, he says, i hope you are prepared to wire me $250,000 because i am feeling confident. stone told chris cuomo these were taken out of context because he did not help and never accepted any money. what do you make of all of this? how is roger stone involved. >> i'm not sure what the innocent context would be here. if i'm looking at that exchange as a prosecutor my antennae is going right up. of course, it is a crime to

the party of matt gaetz. the congressman, under investigation by the fbi, for allegations including sex trafficking. now, he is teaming up with the notorious-qanon congresswoman -- or women marjorie taylor greene planning to travel the country -- or woman i should say, excuse me -- planning to travel the country together, in what they are calling an america-first tour. what is happening to the gop? what is happening? let me tell you. they're all in, on being the party of the big lie. the party of disinformation. the party of lies, fueling the assault on voting rights all across the country. in arizona, where they are counting the ballots in maricopa county, again, for the third time. six months after election day. what's happening to the gop? what what's happened? florida, where governor ron desantis expects to sign a bill full of a slew of new restrictions on voting. even though his state had no-major problems in november. in georgia, where it is now a crime to give voters, waiting in line, food or water. vo

and there's a reason matt gaetz hasn't been indicted yet. joel greenberg's word is not good enough either for the court of law or the court of public opinions in the congress. that having been said, as we reported at politico, the girlfriend, the ex-girlfriend of matt gaetz is in talks for an immunity deal. what's she going to say? and there are many signs that the victims, i guess we can call her now a victim of the sex trafficking of a minor, she also is showing signs that she might be talking to prosecutors. if that happens and if there's an indictment, i think that's going to be enough for republicans to say, hey, look, we've got to step away. let's remember, one of the animating principles of the far right, which is within the fold of the republican party, is qanon, which posits a global pedophile experience. you can haven't a member who has had or who is being indicted in federal court for having sex with a minor and still sort of say, oh, the other side is full of a bunch of pedophiles. i'm saying those political calculations and coll

joel greenberg, the ally of congressman matt gaetz has agreed to cooperate with investigators. greenberg will plead guilty to six charges, including sex trafficking of a minor. we'll have much more on that in just a moment. and this just in. north carolina's governor, roy cooper, has lifted covid-19 restrictions upon business capacity and nearly all mask-wearing mandates, as many states are scrambling to make decisions after the cdc late yesterday changed its guidance and told fully vaccinated americans masks are largely unnecessary for them. but what their employers, local stores, and states do is a major question this hour. >> you've read the cdc requirements, you've talked to your public health officials. what conclusions are you coming to? >> well, it is confusing. >> as of today, there are nearly 119 million fully vaccinated people in this country. the seven-day rolling average of new cases is at 36,000. now, that's still high, but significantly lower than a few weeks ago. a sign that the vaccines are working. >>> but let's begin this break with the breaking news this hour

congressman matt gaetz. "the daily beast" has obtained what it says is a letter that cop contains allegations by one-time associate, joel greenberg, that he and the congressman paid for sex with multiple women including a woman who was 17 at the time. drafted after greenberg had asked stone for help in obtaining a pardon during the final months of the previous administration. i am quoting now. from time to time, gas money or gifts, rent or partial-tuition payments were made to several of these girls, including the individual who was not, yet, a teen. i did see the acts occur, efficienthand. and venmo transactions, cash app, or other payments were made to these girls, on behalf of the congressman. that's allegedly the letter from joel greenberg to roger stone. cnn has not seen the letter, cannot verify the details of "the daily beast" story. a spokesperson for congressman gaetz issued this statement to cnn. congressman gaetz has never paid for sex, nor has he had sex with a 17-year-old as an adult. "politico"

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>> matt gaetz could have a horrible day tomorrow, kendis. as you look and as vaughn pointed out, this is really bad for joel greenberg an the other adult men as he mentioned. but the key question here is, is matt gaetz one of those men? based on all the reporting we've seen it is very likely that matt gaetz is one of those adult men. why? well, because we suspect from the letter that greenberg wrote to roger stone with mg or matt as having engaged in these commercial sex acts with a minor. we also suspect this because the doj executed a search warrant on gaetz's electronic devices. so we expect greenberg's plea to likely hold evidence of the communications and the payments and establish that the use of an instrument of interstate commerce. greenberg is admitting to very serious charges but the other thing we also know is that the doj is not going to go after matt gaetz unless they have ani. that goes with the fact they executed that search warrant on matt gaetz's phone is that he -- because greenberg also is going to be pleading to a number

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we have breaking news about matt gaetz. a major breakthrough today in this sex crimes probe that involves joel greenberg and his ally gaetz. mr. greenberg is not only pleading guilty, which first emerged in a federal filing this week, but tonight we're learning he will cooperate with federal investigators. that's bad news for anyone greenberg has incriminating evidence on. tonight we know what we did not know yesterday or last week or in march when this volcanic story first broke. greenberg has some kind of credible information to officer -- to offer, i shoul

tomorrow a plea deal that could spell big trouble for representative matt gaetz. former gaetz associate joel greenberg is expected to admit that he committed six crimes including sex trafficking. he promised to cooperate with investigators as to who else may have been involved in the crimes. gaetz as renewed his denial about his involvement. we go to vaughn hillyard. great to see you. the congressman has always maintained that he's done nothing wrong but last night he went a little bit further. talk us through this. >> reporter: matt gaetz has not stopped himself from being public or going on the road, even essentially campaigning. he was in florida last week. then you mentioned he spoke to a couple hundred ohio gop activists last night where he addressed these very allegations. but interestingly was downplaying them and comparing them to earmarks in congress and whether those should be considered legitimate or not. take a look at his remarks there where he said i'm being falsely accused of exchanging money for naughty favors. yet, congress has reinstituted a proc

because this is matt gaetz's friend, joel greenberg. he has reportedly been telling investigators about him and matt gaetz, both, paying for sex. including, with an underaged girl. he has been facing 33-felony charges. but today, he pled guilty to six of the 33 felonies. he signed this binding document agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors and testify against other people. if he lies to the prosecutors, affirms here, in this agreement, that he will face perjury charges or obstruction-of-justice charges. he also affirms that if he lies or leaving anything out in cooperating with prosecutors, the other-27 felony charges against him, those are coming back. there have been 33 felonies pending against him. he is pleading guilty to six, so they'll drop the other 27. if he is not a good cooperator, they're going to hit him with those other 27, as well as the six he's now pled guilty to. one of the charges he's pleading to, in this agreement, the child-sex trafficking charge, carries a mandatory-minimum prison sentence of ten years. so, even w

matt gaetz has said he has never had sex illegally with a 17-year-old. he says he has never paid for sex. and his spokesman today, by the way, wolf, points out that gaetz is not mentioned in the 86-page document that has been released in federal court. as a matter of fact, he says and correctly points out that the document makes mention that greenberg admits that he falsely accused someone else previously of having sex with a minor. so that tells you that greenberg is not going to be the perfect witness for the government should they decide to bring charges. >> we'll see what happens. evan, thank you very much. let's get some more on this. the state attorney for palm beach county in florida, dave aaronburg is joining us. what do the terms of this new plea deal indicate to you? >> the feds are not going to cut a deal with an accused child sex trafficker unless that person has information that can lead to the future prosecution of someone who is equally or more culpable than he is or a bigger fish. it's pretty clear that joel greenberg is the most culpable

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let's start with your republican colleague matt gaetz. he remains defiant as march damaging information is surfacing. republican lawmakers, and i'm sure from your own experience you know, have been silent. at what point should something be done, at the very least taking him off the judiciary committee, the committee that would be investigating him? wouldn't that be common sense? >> i think these allegations are disgusting, ddespicable, and deeply disturbing. but in the last four years i've found myself saying the fundamental pillars of our constitution, freedom of speech, freedomof religion, were being attacked, and due process is one of those pillars. kevin mccarthy has a moral responsibility to his caucus to make sure these investigations are going forward, that the house ethics committee is involved in it, and that this needs to be quickly addressed. i do believe we've got to protect people's right to due process. but i sure hope the republican caucus is as deeply disturbed as a lot of us, especially women, are with him. it shouldn't b

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matt gaetz has not been charged and denies any wrongdoing. el >> really the deal between the parties comes down to three key points. first of all, joel greenberg has to plead guilty. he'll be doing that in a few hours in florida. he'll be pleading to six counts. remember, he was originally charged with 33 counts. that's going to be fodder for cross-examination if and when the day comes if joel greenberg ever testifies. they'll say, you got a pretty sweet deal, didn't you. he'll have to provide what isas. that means he has to cooperate fully with the united states prosecutors and prosecution of others. and, finally, if joel greenberg does those things, the government, the prosecutors, will make known to the court and other relevant authorities the nature and extent of the cooperation. that's what we call a 5-k letter. that will result in an enormous sentencing benefit for joel greenberg. >> you don't go from 33 to six unless there's substantial information about other persons. this doncument, what does it tel us about the crimes and allegedly

>> it's not good for matt gaetz. any time you have information assuming it's correct that someone is flipping against you and has material information that prosecutors deem significant enough that they want to enter into an arrangement with you, what is not clear from the reporting is whether she has any criminal exposure herself, that changes the circumstances somewhat. but the other reason it's significant depending on what information she has is the principal cooperating witness, joel greenberg, is a very, very unsavory character. he has lied before. he's lied about things that are very serious with respect to political opponents. he has pled guilty to that lie. he's pled guilty to other serious crimes including sex trafficking of a minor. and so the more additional wents who are less unsavory you can have if there's a potential trial after a potential charge against matt gaetz, the better. and depending on how much the congressman shared with his former girlfriend, elicit activities, other corroborating issues, i

listen to how matt gaetz -- this is really not even funny, but listen to how matt gaetz is describing his own political troubles yesterday. >> just imagine the irony here. i am going falsely accused of exchanging money for naughty favors, yet congress has reinstituted a process that legalizes the corrupt act of exchanging money for favors. >> excuse me? naughty favors? >> that is a take for sure from matt gaetz. but i think one of the things that has been fascinating throughout this whole episode is how few people are coming to matt gaetz's aid here. no one is really defending him. they are letting him do the defending of himself. this is not someone who has a lot of allies. i think there won't be any love lost. >> republican leadership is not kicking him out yet. >> unless he is indicted. >> if he is indicted, it will be a huge problem for him. i think kevin mccarthy will have to make a decision, especially on the heels of liz cheney's ouster, what does the republican party stand for? they kicked out cheney for going against trump. if they keep matt gaetz around, that's a huge proble

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matt gaetz has wild party surrounded by beautiful women in the villages. so just get ready for it. >> does he look to you like someone who is bracing to be charged this week or bracing for a victory lap? >> i think he's just following the trump playbook. it's just leaning in to the us versus them mentality. let's blame the deep state. blame the swamp. blame everyone else for your problems. and he's on stage with marjorie taylor greene. now, keep in mind where he was in the villages is not in matt gaetz' district and certainly not in marjorie taylor greene's district. that was the worst revival tour ever. i'd rather be forced to watch nickelback in concert and have photograph played on the loop than be forced to endure that. but that's what plays in maga world. the problem for matt gaetz is what plays in the court of public opinion is not what works in the court of law. it is telling that when he hired lawyers, he hired lawyer who used to work for said deep state, former prosecutors from doj. it shows you when maga people are in trouble, they teld tell the

matt gaetz and margorie taylor greene holding a rally. and the gunman who killed nine co-workers. he was detained by customs officials in 2017. in his possession, books on terrorism. that's not all. let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. "outfront" tonight, we are standing by for a key senate vote on a commission to investigate the riots, one of the worst attacks on the u.s. capitol since the war of 1812. and that vote all but expected to fail. republicans are confident that they have the votes to block it. block it, despite a bipartisan group of former homeland security secretaries issuing a last-minute statement, urging senators to put aside -- put politics aside and support the commission. this is a commission that, remember, was negotiated by republicans and democrats. one that republicans had said was necessary in the days after the riot. so what changed? well, for one, president trump. some republicans are scared of upsetting the man who incited the riot. and for others it's about power. they believe the commission's findings could get in the way

we made fun of matt gaetz enough? >> seth: well, you know, he's a public figure, so i think it's okay to make jokes about him >> leave him alone, poor guy he's just doing the best he can. last thing he needs after a long day of being a congressman is to get home, turn on the tv, and see you cracking jokes at his expense. leave him alone! >> seth: sorry, sir, are you a matt gaetz supporter >> if i'm a supporter of anything, it's kindness, compassion not mean-spirited jokes. you have to make fun of somebody, make fun of me >> seth: i don't even know you why would i make fun of you? >> well, you could make fun of the fact that i recently got a perm but you can't even tell because the front of my underwear presses it down. >> seth: i don't want to make fun of that. it's just that usually tell jokes about people who are in the news you know, people like matt gaetz >> oh, sure, make fun of matt gaetz have your fun. go ahead and say he looks like a weasel crawled into a tube of hair gel >> seth: well, that's not nice >> i kn

on the road again, the matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene. matt gaetz who's under investigation by the fbi for among other things allegedly having sex with under age girls. we have new reporting on that investigation in a moment. gaetz is out on the road joining forces with marjorie taylor greene and they are spreading trump's words in mesa, arizona, this evening. there are already two audits of this county's election results and guess what? they show the same results. that did not stop greene and gaetz showing up to voice their support. they are two of the biggest and most visual leaders of trump's big lie. the first stop of their tour. just listen to them. >> tell me who is your president? >> that's my president here. did anybody here vote for joe biden? do you guys think you won? >> our elections must have integrity, we have never abandon trump, we'll continue to fight for us and we'll have his fact when he does. we support the great patriots in georgia and florida and all across this country, protecting the integrity of the vote. that's g

marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz. i don't know a lot of republican who is are particularly psyched to see greene who she's got some eccentric views and reported that she believes in some of the qanon and staging shootings and speculated that the wildfires in california might have somehow been caused by lasers in space and somehow coordinated through the rothchild bank, an anti-semitic trope. she's the less controversial of the two. >> kind of amazing. amanda, what does gaetz's defiance tell you about how he ' empowered this base and how the base feels like they 'em power him? >> there's an appetite for this stuff. there's an appetite for the super maga base who just loves somebody that fights no matter how ridiculous and outlandish and fringe and disgusting the things they may be fighting for why this is not great. there are a lot of republicans. i don't want matt gaetz to be the face of the republican party. there's a fight going on and the reason why gaetz and greene feel to draw audiences like this is because there

matt gaetz, rudy giuliani, or donald trump? >> i will take matt gaetz on that question. >> okay. >> and that's because you don't cooperate somebody like joel greenberg without really knowing that you have other people who are at least as culpable as he is. you know, there's an old saying you don't cooperate down, meaning you don't cooperate somebody against people who are less culpable, and here to cooperate somebody like joel greenberg, it seems really clear that he's going to have information about matt gaetz and because there was a plural in the others that appeared in the charging instrument, there could be other people as well that are facing indictment. but i think this is clearly a bad day for matt gaetz. >> and so what would you expect to be the timing or can we tell or have any sense of what the timing is for what might be coming out about matt gaetz? >> that is harder because, you know, there's going to be a negotiation presumably some offer will be made, and there will be a back and forth, but i would think that it w

did he name, for example, congressman matt gaetz? greenberg's defense attorney came out to answer questions from reporters. here's what he said about that. >> does my client have information that could hurt an elected oe fishlg? i guess this is just must see television. you'll just have to wait and see. >> reporter: so, he's not going to give us any information. but the judge reminded his client today that his ultimate prison sentence really relies on his cooperation and how much helpful information he gives prosecutors. so, the next month and a half he has every incentive to tell them everything he knows. >> what is congressman gaetz saying about this, if anything? >> reporter: well, of course, congressman gaetz has not been charged. he has denied any allegations of paying for sex or having sex with a minor. he and his team have started attacking joel greenberg's credibility. fairly, they point to the fact that he has now admitted to felonies, including allegations that he has now admitted to, that he accused someone else, a teacher

that's what matt gaetz is playing to. look, republican voters at this very moment are not particularly interested in things that are relatively boring. they don't necessarily want to talk about taxes. they don't necessarily want to talk about the role and size of government, about infrastructure, about all of that other stuff. they want the stuff that's exciting. they want people who, as elise stefanik put it this week, who are fighters. and they don't think that liz cheney is doing enough to fight for trump. and that's why she's been thrown under the bus. it plays well in that room. i think it would play well in a lot of republican rooms, even in pl pl places that are purple like now virginia. that is the reality of today's republican party. >> charlie, elise stefanik says she wants to be a unifier. and she's shoving liz shcheney f the stage. can she be a unifier? >> i know elise quite well. she was my co-chair of the tuesday group. she came in as a more moderate pragmatic young millennial woman, spoke to constituencies

that's why matt gaetz's name was nowhere to be found in the plea agreement. you don't want to give the target the opportunity to flee or tamper with witnesses. >> greenberg's lawyer also said that his client is on the path towards rehabilitation. i'm quoting right now, he has a great deal of remorse. is that enough to ease the legitimate concerns about greenberg's credibility? >> ronald reagan said trust by verify. when you're talking about this 86-page agreement, i think the reason why they have so much detail in here is to make sure that joel greenberg doesn't weasel out of it. they put a lot of detail in this agreement, a lot of facts in here so that if joel greenberg tries to weasel out of it, the feds can reinstate the charges they dropped and go after him for the six charges he plead to and use his admissions against him. joel greenberg has every incentive to live up to his end of the deal or else he'd been facing life in prison. it's pretty telling that the two major charges that have mandatory minimum sentences are still in this, meaning, he plead gui

it reads tiktok matt gaetz. the florida congressman could find himself in hot water given greenberg's admission in water he knowingly solicited and paid for sex with a minor and others did, too. >> mr. greenberg has pled guilty pursuant to a plea agreement with certain requirements and obligations to them and he intends to honor that. >> reporter: honoring that 86-page plea agreement means greenberg could be called on to testify against others and provide information against co-conspirators that may include matt gaetz. the florida congressman wasn't named in the plea agreement or court but investors are still trying to determine if gaetz is involved in sex trafficking, prostitution or sex with a minor. gaetz has denied any wrongdoing and not charged with a crime. >> does my client have information that could hurt an elected official? i guess this is just must-see television. you'll have to wait and see. >> reporter: in the plea agreement and this is key, greenberg admits he introduced that same minor he was sexu

among greenberg'tive matt gaetz. in march "the new york times" reported federal investigators were looking into whether gaetz paid for and had sex with a 17-year-old. the florida republican has repeatedly denied those allegations and has not been charged with a crime this weekend telling republican supporters -- >> i'm being falsely accused of exchanging money for favors >> reporter: greenberg faces at least 12 years in prison and says he agrees to cooperate fully in the investigation and prosecution of others. his defense attorney today. >> in the statement of fact here it says that greenberg paid her to engage in commercial sex acts with him and others who could those others be >> i'm not going to answer that. >> reporter: as was made clear in court today, the more greenberg tells federal agents the more favorable the judge could be in sentencing the federal investigators now with an inside line as greenberg agrees in the plea agreement to name names and testify. lester >> kerry sanders this evening. thank you. >>>

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>> what does this mean for matt gaetz? >> pardon? >> what does this mean for matt gaetz? >> you'll have to ask his attorneys on that. >> joining me now is nyu law professor melissa murray. professor, these are very serious felonies, there is now no legal doubt about them. the government and the now convicted defendant, greenberg, came to this agreement. he pled guilty in open court. what does today mean? >> so we know that mr. greenberg is in serious jeopardy. he was exposed to 33 different charges and he's pleaded guilty to six of them. that suggests that there will be a cooperation requirement for him. he'll have to provide substantial information for the investigated areas at this point in time so it's a big time for him to do this. he's going to be working with the prosecutors and likely not going to be sentenced any time soon. typically they would like to see the cooperation go forward and have the individual cooperate as fully as possible so it may be a long time before we actually see the sentence and that means he

this is terrible news for matt gaetz. gaetz is out there blaming the media and who knows who else, ge whoever they are talking about. not in a court of law. in a court of law it depends on evidence, facts and testimonies. this young woman can not only testify at the trial of matt gaetz if he's ever charged and depends on where the evidence goes and also in front of a grand jury to get a better picture of what went on. you don't want the trial jurors to look at the receipt in a vacuum. you want them to talk to someone who's credible narrator of what went on. that could be his ex-girlfriend. >> things are moving relatively quickly in this investigation. david, thank you for join us. there are more news we are following tonight. >>> new body camera of the deadly encounter between ronald green and louisiana state trooper, brian todd is working the story for us. brian, i understand there is breaking news in this case. >> reporter: that's right, the superintendent of louisiana state police lamar davis announced they'll release

she came out before matt gaetz did. she sounded pretty hopeful when he started they will bring hope back to america and put america first. that's the title of the tour. but then it just took about two seconds for her to start asking the crowd who the president is and everyone here of course shouted donald trump. so she was right away just spreading the big lie once again. she told the crowd that you're being controlled by the government who wants to take away your freedoms and plans to impeach joe biden she says and stop the spread of socialism and wants to get back to america first and stop globalism. here is what she had to say. >> we are coming out strong. and we are coming out very loud and very proud, and we are coming out like we did for president trump at all these rallies because we have a message for the democrats and the fake news media. you are not going to destroy our cou country. you are not going to shame us for being proud american patriots. you are not going to put us down for loving president trump and

>> congressman matt gaetz may be in greater legal jeopardy now. a close ally just now pleading guilty so what is he telling prosecutors about a deal? bill gates investigated by the board of microsoft reportedly over a sexual relationship with a staffer. gates insists that had nothing to do with why he left. >> thanks so much for being here, everybody. we begin with the escalating violence between israel and ham at this hour. israeli warplanes hammering gaza with heavy air strikes this morning. sunday was the deadliest day in the conflict so far. 52 people were killed in israel air strikes. egypt and qatar are working to broker a cease-fire. a source tells cnn the efforts so far are stalled. this morning, secretary of state tony blinken spoke to reporters about what the united states is doing to stop the violence. >> hundreds of people killed or injured including children being pulled from the rubble. we're also alarmed by how journalists and medical personnel have been put at risk. palestinians and israelis like people everywhere have the right to

and matt gaetz fits that bill. so prosecutors have almost certainly made the determination that he can provide evidence against the other guy. so the likelihood of a charge against matt gaetz is higher than it was yesterday. >> how much information does someone like greenberg need to provide in order to -- nord, he would plead guilty to get a reduced sentence? >> he has to provide enough information so that the magic word -- the magic phrase is met, that is substantial assistance. and in this case, that means that he would make the difference between the ability to charge and convict someone like matt gaetz or not. remember, part of the problem with mr. greenberg is, he's been charged in a slew of counts, including for lying and making misrepresentations about various things. so he's a bit of an unsavory witness. so he has to provide corroboration for all the things that otherwise prosecutors may have. so it's got to be a pretty significant amount, i think a, just to make sure you're able to charge someone who is i

so, if he has told prosecutors that about matt gaetz's conduct with a minor. that means prosecutors believe it and are ready to bank on it. >> and gaetz, obviously, has denied any wrongdoing. has not been charged with anything, at this point. do you have a sense of how quickly charges could come down? because the family was saying they may be extending the timeline through the summer. >> yeah, that makes sense, anderson. as i read the joel greenberg cooperation papers, they are so detailed. my prosecutorial instinct told me they are getting close. they have a lot of information. on the other hand, investigations have a way of spiraling and standing. and you may be now cooperate the ex-girlfriend. she may lead to other leads. so, one of the nice things about being a federal prosecutor is you do have the luxury of time. they are not up against any statute of limitations here. so they can build their case up. i think summer, mid-summer, end of summer sounds, to me, like a reasonable and likely timeline. >> elie honig, appreciate it. thanks. senator ted cruz takin

if you're elise stefanik do you want matt gaetz's endorsement? he that's the endorsement you say get away from me. >> absolutely. but your former boss ted cruz the latest republican to head down to mar-a-lago and kiss the ring of the former president. he po heed a photo of them having dinner and ocasio-cortez posted nothing like reminiscing about an attempted coup over flowers and looks like a bromance there, amanda. >> listen. all of the possible 2024 contenders are going down there to kiss the ring because they know the nomination is donald trump's for the taking and only way to have a chance to compete in a primary and maybe getting it is if donald trump serves them that nomination on a silver platter. i think this shows a complete lack of imagination, a lack of leadership in trying to figure out what a new coalition could look like why they're admitting that they're weak candidates, weak leaders because they cannot figure out a better path to republican victory than the losing path of dronald trump in 2020. >> fascinating discussion. we'll ha