hazen declined to talk to nbc news hca saying in part, "we value our colleagues and are committed to offering competitive compensation and benefits." and yet the great national divide between the income of those at the top and those at the bottom persists the heads of corporations like ge, starbucks and acuity brands received more than 1,000 times their average workers last year, with walgreen's then ceo earning over 500 times. none of those ceos agreed to speak with nbc news each company saying their practices align with their shareholders' interests and that the ceo will take a hit if their stock price falls. but since 1978 ceo compensation has risen over 1,000%. compared with only a 14% increase for average workers. in theory, ceos are handsomely paid to increase a company's value. >> the problem is not that somebody's getting paid a lot of money. the problem is they get paid whether they do well or whether they do badly. >> reporter: glenn kelman, the ceo of redfin, a real estate brokerage firm, is bucking the trend. under kelman's leadership redfin more than tripled in value to

when they can leverage that rate no matter what the hca does it doesn't make a difference because the providers can do what they want. >> when you say providers demean insurance providers for healthcare providers or the doctors themselves? >>caller: no no no. insurance at kaiser permanente. >> that's interesting because we hear medicare is called the 800-pound gorilla which means when medicare set the rate for something, the private insurers tend to follow. because medicare is such a big player in the market so it's interesting to hear it is the other way around and with the private insurers set the rateu the government has to follow. thatlo is intriguing to me. host: do you have a follow-up? >>caller: medicare does rule the rates. she is right butn we have thousands upon thousands of my state people that are not medicare or medicaid eligible that's with a leverage happens. people that are under that medicare age, yes they can leverage whatever they want. >> i see. that make sense. host: follow her reporting at nytimes.com also on twitter thank you for the conversation we appreciate h

. >> all right we don't we talk about the next one this is hca health care. in that case, you're voting with management what are the proxy issues that bear here? >> yeah, so what we're trying to do is call balls and strikes a little bit and to engage -- engage early before the vote takes place, frankly, so that you and others can highlight these issues and folks can -- folks can discuss them in the case of hca, there's a shareholder proposal that calls for them to better link compensation to health care outcomes in the hcadoes a terrific job. they run great hospitals we've spent a lot of time looking at their compensation plans. and we believe they do, amongst the best jobs of doing precisely that so, we think that while that proposal may be appropriate for some of their peers, it's not for hca. so, we're trying to call balls and strikes. and we think -- we think it would be a mistake to vote for that proposal. >> with kellogg, you're going to be voting for a shareholder proposal that goes against management as well what's your issue with kellogg >> well, our

. >> in a statement the hospital's parent company, hca health care, called the nurses' statements misleading. it says declining birth rates in santa clara county resulted in the personnel reductions and the hospital remains appropriately staffed. but it's the second black eye recently for good samaritan, its executive team accused of allowing los gatos teachers to jump the vaccine line before they were officially eligible as a thank you for helping the hospital raise money for ppe. the chief medical officer was disciplined and its ceo recently resigned, citing career advancement opportunities. >>> facebook rolling out a feature that allows you to show your support for covid vaccines. it's a facebook frame where people can show that they got vaccinated. facebook believes if users see more people they trust get vaccinated, they'll feel better about getting the vaccination itself. the profile frames are available beginning today. >>> let's get a check of our forecast. another beautiful day. things are starting to shift, right, jeff? >> yeah, certainly, janelle and raj. we've been with some summ

perlin for the way that our front-line workers and hca helped you prepare for the vaccine rollout and the innovation and data insight that you and your leadership team are providing with so many patients. it's so clear. i am so grateful to everyone for alll the questions. we could spend another hour answering all the questions. i just appreciate the engaged in and we do live in the greatest country in the world so again personally thank you from me in my role at pepperdine university as well as the ca health care. resident that to you. >> thank you deanna. chairperson smith for your leadership in this evening together i'm reminded as i listened to mr. sub 20 talk about from the time they receivedy the formula, the dna o come up with an actual vaccine it takes me two days to do under a pile that come from learning what the virus was to creating a vaccine in just 42 days to create, to get it to production and then in 10 months and it wasn't just moderna it was you dr. hahn and your colleagues over the course of 10 months from the time we learned about it to the time it was going into pe