with donald trump where kevin mccarthy was trying to get donald trump to help stop the violence at the capitol. she has issued a written statement explaining that she has been telling her constituents this actually for several days now, that this is why she voted to impeach the president. she reports that kevin mccarthy told her that donald trump said to him while the attackers were in the capitol and he was watching it on tv, well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are. congresswoman herrera-beutler goes on to say in her written statement since i publicly announced my decision to vote for impeachment i have shared these details in countless conversations with constituents and colleagues multiple times through the media and other public forums. she's been doing this back in her district, so it hasn't been coming to national media attention until tonight. i told it to the "daily news" of long view on january 17th. i've shared with local county executive board members as well as other constituents who asked me to explain my vote. i shared it with thou

donald trump. wolf, i mean even inside trump world there are people who know this president's character, know who he is. and to have a longtime trump adviser say something like that, i think, you know, establishes that even inside his own circle of advisers, allies and associates, there are some major questions about this man's character, wolf. >> there certainly it is. . he also in the statement he once again said this is another phase of the greatest witch hunt in the history of our country. kaitlan, i understand you are hearing that despite the acquittal, the former president is still very much worried about his legal future. >> he is, wolf. and privately he has expressed concern that ebbed be charged related to the january 6th rally. that's what -- or riot i should say. that's what he told multiple people. that's in part why he has been so quiet every since he left the white house. we hardly heard from the president only in written statements. he does not have access to his twitter account. and

donald trump was a candidate. he is no longer in my opinion going to be up for any election in the remainder of his lifetime. the party has to move on and get behind donald trump. that's the case in most cases where presidents have left and no longer seek public life. jane: do you think with the end of donald trump's little influence that we will see a toning down in the rhetoric not just from the republican side but the democrat side. is it time for both sides to move on from this? guest: absolutely. the rhetoric on democrats and republicans needs to be toned down a lot and with donald trump, it was always a balancing act between rhetoric versus results. the rhetoric of donald trump worked for the individual who donald trump was, not a politician, a businessman who was thrust into the presidency, highest office in our land, the most powerful man in the world. he never came through the ranks of the party or served in lesser office. i think it's important we returned to that model. donald trump was not an ideologue

we didn't hear anything from donald trump until 1:49 p.m. when while all of this is unfolding, president trump sent out a tweet. this was the first thing he did when he learned the united states capitol, all the members of congress, his own vice-president was under violent attack. and what was that tweet? nearly an hour after the rioters breached the capitol perimeter at 1:49 donald trump released a propaganda reel of his save america speech that he'd given an hour before. i want to be clear. the events i juts described, the rioters are breaching the capitol, attacking law enforcement, the violence is being broadcast all over the television for the whole world to see, including the president of the united states, and i want to show you, this is what's happening right before donald trump sends that video out again and as he does it. >> our country has had enough, we will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. and to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal because you'll never take

trump left office so it was a bit of a confused message from the from donald trump's team you could see that david shawn was angry at times he was loaded at times he certainly glared at a number of lawmakers on both sides of the house interesting that bruce castor who's the the 1st attorney to speak for donald trump mentioned several senators by name particularly republicans and perhaps was pointing to them to say look that this vote is in. your hands at the argument that the trump team put forward is that this is unconstitutional you're sensually can't impeach a private citizen because to impeach someone means to remove them from office and you can't remove him from office because he's already gone and claiming as well that this was all a partisan move by democrats and you have to remember that 10 republicans also voted for the impeachment is done from a point made by jimmy raskin right at the end that the man who's leading the impeachment drive for the democrats that by saying that this was the most partisan impeachment in american history earlier he had really put forward an emot

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trump and his behaviour. attack on donald trump and his behaviour-— attack on donald trump and his behaviour. there's no question, none, behaviour. there's no question, none. that _ behaviour. there's no question, none, that president _ behaviour. there's no question, none, that president trump - behaviour. there's no question, none, that president trump is l none, that president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. no question about it. the people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president.— and instructions of their president. the events of january _ president. the events of january the _ president. the events of january the sixth, - president. the events of january the sixth, when | president. the events of. january the sixth, when the drum supporting mob most on congress and ran amok, after the former president told them too much there, will never be forgotten. closing arguments in this trial set out dramatically different versions of events. the cold, hard truth is that what happene

trump and there are others like ted cruz josh hawley marco rubio who voted with donald trump for one reason one reason being that in 2024 they would like to run for president and so they think to do that they have to convince the trump support that the are with them that they will continue the work of donald trump an interesting thing to note is by being acquitted that me. that donald trump can run for office in the future if he so wishes and there are people talking about him being a presidential candidate in 2024 years he could run again and his supporters think that not only should run he will win so you become the 45th president of the united states and the 47th president of the united states no one ever said that politics in the u.s. was boring indeed stay with us we have some reaction from a u.s. house speaker democrat nancy pelosi who took specific issue with mitch mcconnell's logic for voting against impeachment saying he was the one who delay the trial in the 1st place for mitch mcconnell who created the situation where it could not have been heard before that 20 year or eve

party as buttered on the side of donald trump they have fused themselves forever to donald trump he will control the agenda and of course it gives him a wonderful platform from which to run again in 2024 which you would think would be against their interest particularly people like holly and cruz who may be interested in running in that primary themselves and trying to run for president so what donald trump has controlled the republican party increasingly over the past 4 years and that he is still the face of the republican party mitch mcconnell has a serious problem in keeping his party together which is i think why he did the dance he did voting to acquit though he was signaling all along that he might go ahead and support conviction and then giving a very strong speech suggesting that he does not doubt that the house managers made out their case incitement to insurrection ok many thanks for your thoughts and that assess claire finkelstein professor of law and professor of philosophy university of pennsylvania. thank you for having. let's hear some more of a closing argument start

donald trump sent us and finally, donald trump did not say, we need to hold these people accountable, what they did was wrong, and this was a consequence of a people having their election stolen from them but no, donald trump convinced them with his life that election was stolen. in other words, donald trump is make own words, donald trump is make own words connect the dots between what he was saying and the action. remember, he said, we love you, as if the mayhem that left one dead and many injured was a noble event in american history. was a noble event in american histo . ., . , history. the role politics behinded, _ history. the role politics behinded, as _ history. the role politics behinded, as the - history. the role politics - behinded, as the republicans and donald trump is make lawyers said, this is really about stopping donald trump running again in 2024 and it is not likely to succeed in that? that really misses the point. that really misses the point. that is not what this is all about. this is about holding donald trump accountable. this is not something the democrats co

now it's not just donald trump who is on trial. it's the senate, if they don't convict. >> let's quickly go back to wolf. >> anderson, thank you very much. john king is with me. they wrapped things up today. they have another eight hours if they need it tomorrow, house impeachment managers. they can go for eight hours. i suspect they won't need eight hours to wrap things up. tomorrow, maybe friday, saturday. they can make their case. i don't think they'll need 16 hours, either. >> it's going to be fascinating to see the tactic the trump legal team takes. we have to see the final day house presentation. after today which was a damming, devastating build that connected all of the dots, the months of working before the big lie for two months, the weeks of the president ginning up the crowd and importance of the january 6th rally, he was president then. i thought prosecutors did a fantastic job of noting the context and content, the all caps, urgency of donald trump's tweets of things he wants done for him and relative silence througho

for 10 now to donald trump's impeachment trial in the u.s. senate is the president distinguished senators. you just heard from my colleagues about the harrowing events that happened here at the capitol on january 6th and saw that very disturbing video and now like to turn your attention to what was happening on the other end of pennsylvania avenue at the white house. and the truth is the facts are that on january 6th donald trump did not once condemned this attack he did not once condemn the attackers in fact on january 6th the only person he condemned this is on vice president mike pence who was hiding in this building with his family in fear for his life. in the 1st crucial hours of this violent attack he did nothing to stop it nothing to help us by all accounts from the people that were around him he was delighted. and here is the last thing donald trump said that day and you might remember the.

he can't stand donald trump. he thinks donald trump cost him the majority. but, also, he has to worry about donors who write if he voted to convict, he knew the majorit follow him. that would expose a real weakness in terms of his leadership. >> that's interesting there, kasie. does that comport with your reporting, that mcconnell -- that's the debate. would mcconnell have been able to bring over ten votes or not? claire seems to indicate he might not have been able to. >> i think it was a real open question. i think, had he made a definitive case and really sold it, it's possible that they could have gotten there, but the reality is that afterward that group of people was going to be smaller than the group of republicans who were going to vote to acquit donald trump. so there's no scenario where mitch mcconnell can be the minority leader when he sided with the smaller group. he would have been ceding the power he has. i think he wants to use it to move beyond donald trump. i think senator mccaskill's point is absolutely the right one. we have known all the

from donald trump? we don't know. while donald trump was watching the capitol being invaded on live television, he tweeted this. "mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. usa demands the truth!" and that, that tweet, was one of the many smoking guns that the house managers exhibited today. >> the fact that he didn't stop it, the fact that he incited a lawless attack and abdicated his duty to defend us from it, the fact that he actually further inflamed the mob, further inflamed that mob, attacking his vice president, while assassins were pursuing him in this capitol. more than requires conviction and disqualification. >> our first guest tonight tried to preside over the house of representatives and keep the house in session after speaker pelosi was rushed out of the chamber. that left house rule

trump himself you'll know that in the last impeachment they thought about subpoenaing donald trump but he would be able to essentially slow up the whole process by saying presidents to do that sort of thing although you'll remember that bill clinton gave evidence during his impeachment on the balance at the moment if you to ask me i would see he's probably going to get where did it all depends on the witnesses what they bring and whether or not that's strong enough that the senators who who know what happened who were here when it happened and nor what donald trump did but are convinced that he didn't incite the crowd if those witnesses change that view and that convinces 17 republicans to vote with the democrats who are almost all going to block to impeach donald trump and give them 67 votes which is what you need you need a 2 thirds majority in the 100 seat senate to convict the president of impeachment all right thanks so much that's beautiful stuff there from alan fischer let's go down the gallacher is live for us in west palm beach in florida we were to ask i know is off twitter w

trump played but then a few days later flew terminal largo to speak to donald trump to build bridges and also crucially to ask him for his donor list because the republicans need access to donald trump's list of donors who raised money for him for political campaigns and so that was deemed important so there are still a number of republicans who. pledge loyalty to donald trump even though he's no the former president some would argue the discreet former president after what happened on the 6th of january but these still pledge their loyalty to him and he still has a huge voice in the party one of the points i was making on friday is that republican senators are looking for an excuse to be able to support donald trump to justify it to voters who are not in the republican party but also they realize that they've got to face the base they've got to go and speak to their own party they've got to run for reelection and if they don't convince the base that the are suitably loyal to donald trump they could well find themselves primary which means before you even get to a general election so

donald trump abdicated his duty to us all. we have to make this right, and you can make it right. >> my fellow manager david cicilline showed you what president trump did and did not do in those first critical hours of the attack. he sent a tweet at 1:49 p.m. where he re-posted a video of the speech that incited the attack, and he called a senator to ask him to delay a certification as the senator was being evacuated for his own safety. we left off around 2:15 p.m. at this point insurgents were inside the senate in the house and the senate had been evacuated for everyone's safety, and as you saw, vice president mike pence and his family even had to be evacuated for their safety. now you'll recall donald trump had made vice president pence a target. he attacked the vice president at the rallies, in speeches and on twitter. during president trump's speech that morning of the attack he ramped it up again after privately pressuring mike pence in front of thousands in the crowd. he called mike pence out 11 times including saying, q

trump on the 6th of january and that got very heated because he called for donald trump to send help because the security lines here had been breached and he had said to kevin mccarthy maybe those people are more interested in the result of the election than you are kevin mccarthy got very angry about that repeated the conversation to several people when he came off the fore and that seemed to be a new development and then we also heard donald trump's lawyer say during the hearing on friday that donald trump was very concerned about the safety of my parents sources close to my parents in the american reporting on friday night said the boy at essentially a lie to the senate that was not the case donald trump did not get in touch was not concerned about his safety so overnight i was speaking to people this morning overnight there was a debate going on among the house impeachment managers and the democrats on whether or not to call witnesses the person i was speaking to said that even until the last minute it was up in the year and i said when will we find when jimmy raskin stands up ji

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trump at his instructions and to fulfill his wishes donald trump had sent them there. they truly believed that the whole intrusion was at the president's orders and we know that because they said so many of them actually posed for pictures bragging about it on social media and they tagged mr trump in tweets folks this was not a hidden crime the president told them to be there and so they actually believed they would face no punishment the defense argued in their briefs and they argued again here on tuesday that the insurrectionists were acting on their own that they were not incited by president trump or acting at his direction this is in their brief quote they did so of their own accord and for their own reasons and are being criminally prosecuted but that's just not the case it's not what the insurrectionists actually sat they sad they came here because the president instructed them to do so leading up to the attack the in-service action and said they were coming to d.c. for president tribe he invited them with clear instructions for a specific time and place and wit

the in the last few months, donald trump brought this on himself. his behavior was hour of i'll, it was abysmal. there was lying and deceit to the public that was unfortunate and led to people becoming enraged and feeling their rights in a democratic process had been stripped from them. i think he walks away perhaps feeling acquitted. i don't know that he feels vindicated. because there are a lot of people that have their eyes open and have pointed the blame. mitch mcconnell is a powerful guy. there are other powerful republicans that have stepped front and center and said we're disassociating ourselves with that type of behavior. it hasn't been a debate about policy positions. this is about behavior that is unacceptable. we can't tolerate it. that's not what the republican party represents. that's a split in the party for sure. howie: i have about half a minute. democrats knew they would lose this trial, everybody knew, the media knew. were they trying to win the media verdict and vies tri's history's -- history's verdict by tying him to what happe

trump, open to convicting donald trump. his wife leaves the administration. he let the world know where he was. and then, then pulled back the football from charlie brown on the timing of the trial, as you pointed out, kept the trial from happening while donald trump was still in office. then again floats the notion that he might vote to convict further into the after trump has left. toys with people again. sends a signal to his colleagues that he might be open to, as i said, to convict. and then decides to vote to acquit on these procedural grounds. what is all that about? i think it's about mcconnell, i think he was undecided late into this process. but i think he was trying to balance in his totally calculating, totally self-serving, manipulating way, he felt like he could not continue to be the leader of that caucus if he was on the wrong side of it. and i think he was testing the waters with his caucus about how many of them might follow him if he voted to convict. when he realized he didn't have anything like the numb

for donald trump. even senate republican leader mitch mcconnell strongly suggested the former president could yet face criminal or civil charges. now democratic senator richard blumenthal put it this way. >> i thought he should face prosecution for his obstruction of justice. as, in effect, recommended by the mueller report. we need accountability in the way we govern here. democracy had a very close call when those rioters assaulted our democracy simply to overthrow the election and retain power for donald trump, which was his goal. >> the final vote came after some debate over whether to call witnesses. ryan nobles has more on how everything played out on a dramatic and sometimes chaotic day in the u.s. senate, ryan? >> reporter: for a second time, donald trump has escaped conviction by the u.s. senate. >> it is therefore ordered and adjudged that the said donald john trump be and he is hereby acquitted of the charge in said article. >> reporter: the final vote capped off a dramatic and unpredictable

here was the last thing donald trump said that day. you write one - - you might remember this from the presentation earlier in the week. 6:00 o'clock p.m. january 6th come after all the destruction that you just saw the capital police and national guard fighting to secure this building, here is what donald trump tweeted some of these are the things and the events that happened when a sacred landslide election victory is so ceremoniously stripped away from great patriots of them badly and unfairly treated for so long. go home with love and in peace. remember this day forever. he got what he incited and according to donald trump we got what we deserved. donald trump's incitement of this insurrection, including his dereliction of duty as commander-in-chief to defend the capital in the peak full and it is a complete refusal to condemn the attack what was going on and he continued incitement during the attack require impeachment. let's turn to the president's conduct that day. so when he addresses thousands of great patriots as he called th

trump it was a very different day earlier i showed you donald trump's desperate attempts to maintain power ignoring adverse court rulings attacking elected officials pressuring his justice department even attacking his own vice president you saw a man who refused to lose who was desperate to retain power by any means necessary you saw a man willing to attack anyone and everyone who got in his way and you saw a man who thought he could play by different rules he told his supporters as my colleague ms plaskett just showed you exactly what he thought those different rules were combat fight violence this was not just one speech this was weeks and weeks of deliberate effort by donald trump to overturn the election results so that he didn't have to give up the presidency the speech on january 6th builds on refers to an amplifies that same pattern. the pattern trump had used and broadcasted for months he refused to lose his attacks on others and his different rules the only thing different about his speech on january 6th from all these other times that we went through was that he was no lon

trump was calling to ask the senator to delay the sort of occasion process let that sink in donald trump didn't get to finish that call was cut off because the senators had to move to another location for your security and thank god they did because as the call was occurring the riders got closer to the senate chambers and as we all know now but for the heroism of capitol police officer eugene goodman and other law enforcement officers who took them in a different direction to the police line they very likely would have gotten here think about that armed insurrection has guns weapons their ties brass knuckles they were coming for us they were inside the united states capitol trying to stop the certification process the police were outnumbered and but for the grace of god they would have gotten us all of us and our commander in chief makes a call about an hour after the siege began not to preserve protect and defend you and our country and the capitol but to join forces with the mob and pressure a senator to stop certification just can't get the nominee to this kind of behavior there can

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i'm not afraid of donald trump running again in four years. i'm afraid he's going to run again and lose because he could do this again. reporter: the democratic impeachment manager quoted extensively from republicans who lamed and criticized donal trump for what happened here on capitol hill. a clear message to the republican senators that are sitting in judgment. >> impeachment is not to punish, but to prevent. we are not here to punish donald trump, we are here to prevent the seeds of hatred he planted from bearing any more fruit. >> many of the insurrectionists incited to invade this chamber were dangerous. people on the fbi watch list, violent extremists, white supremacists. >> you can't even call yourself american. >> if you think this is not impeachable, what is? what would be? president trump's lawyers endorse his assertion that his conduct inciting these event was totally appropriate and the senate acquits donald trump, any president could invoke insurrection violence against us again. if you don't find this a high crime and misdemeano

yediot is that donald trump -- the idea was that donald trump was so willing to subvert democracy and subvert the will of the people that time and time again he sought to undermine our democracy, including with that call and leading up to a last desperate attempt to try to stop counting of the votes in congress presided over by his vice president who he clearly sized -- who he clearly criticized. i think that is part of the story that will be told in the impeachment trial and part of the story that shows why the disqualification from holding further office for donald trump is important because there is this intense and breathtaking disregard for the constitutional processes of democracy and the voice of the people. host: what is the significance of the chief justice not being there presiding over the events? guest: there is really no significance. the reason the drafters of the constitution had the chief justice presided over an impeachment trial of a seating -- of a sitting president is that the residing officer would be the vice president or the president pro tem. both the vice pres

donald trump's presidency -- don't get me wrong, the media does a lot wrong, but donald trump's presidency is one of the major reasons there is no trust in media. you lied to the media and try to make those lies into reality by constantly putting them into people's heads. these are verifiable, provable lies. this is what the trump presidency did to the country and there is a lot of blame to be taken and you are a big part of that problem. caller: i would say i -- sean: i have made mistakes, i've been open and honest about the mistakes i made. i wrote an entire book that you are free to read or download that talks about my first day in particular and other mistakes i made. i will own up to the things i screwed up. one of the things i tell people all the time is, as a person and a professional when you make mistakes you hopefully grow by learning what you did wrong and trying to do better next time. to turn around and to blame the media's low approval on the trump presidency dismisses the problems that occurred. i have been doing this for 25 years in terms of working with the media. they hav

trump doesn't run and remember then donald trump will be 7 team as. 7 the thing that they need to get his base his support and so by being seen as loyal to donald trump the will help when part of that beast when it comes to the whole republican primary which will last for about a year or more and then perhaps will have a big say in the eventual nominee so you're looking at people like george holy ted cruz marco rubio rick scott from florida i could go on there are several more who quite fancy the idea of running for president in 2024 so to be seen to be a loyal to donald trump is still important because he controls a huge part of the republican party base when there was a meeting of kevin mccarthy who is the leader of the demo of the republicans in the house he went to model argo after the inauguration donald trump being don't a monologue oh. he had been critical of donald trump in and around the 6th of january he actually laid the blame for what happened in the in the 6 of january directly at the feet of the president as he he was at the time and then he kind of walked that back a bi

se refiere a las falsas acusaciones de fraude electoral por parte donald trump. algo que lleva haciendo desde el dÍa de las elecciones presidenciales que perdiÓ por mÁs de 7 millones de votos. el mayor margen en la historia. una turba saltÓ a un capitolio en el que se pedÍa que no se certificara el resultado de las elecciones. murieron cinco personas, incluido un policÍa. la cÁmara bajaes de mayorÍa demÓcrata. necesitan 17 senadores republicanos en el senado para declarar culpable a donald trump. algo muy improbable. m ♪ >> habla en inglÉs los republicanos dirÁn que es un juicio inconstitucional que lo calificÓ de pÉrdida de tiempo. >> eso a pesar de que el dÍa posterior al asalto capitolio responsabilizo a donald trump de lo sucedido. los republicanos dicen que es inconstitucional porque donald trump ya no es presidente. los demÓcratas responde que lo eracuando fue encausado y que si es situacional. agregan que incitÓ el asalto y que se debe castigar claramente. se espera que el juicio dure alrededor de una semana. el 47% de la poblaciÓn piens

initiated by donald trump. that seems like one of the real radioactive spots in the reporting for donald trump. >> yeah, an angry rally in washington, d.c., on january 6th would have been one thing. an angry rally in washington, d.c., on january 6th where the crowd was then pointed at the capitol and told, go get them, that is how we ended up with the capitol breached and if that decision, that staging decision, was made by the president, himself, then this is -- i mean, this is a different level of culpability, and, i mean, it's going to matter for the impeachment. i will be very interested to see what andrew weissmann says about whether it may also implicate the president in potential federal criminal charges or d.c. criminal charges in the future. >> well, then we will get right to it. >> okay. thanks, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. thank you. >>> congresswoman katie porter is going to join us later in the hour. on a night where it's suddenly mitch mcconnell versus kevin mccarthy. the republican senate lead

trump donald trump. it's lawyers will have their time either late tomorrow or friday. thanks for inviting us into your home today, fair, balanced, still unafraid. fox news prime time starts right now. >> mark: i was hoping you would put an animal face on for the alto. thanks a lot, great show as always. this is fox news prime time. it looks as if the house impeachment managers will be going late tonight, and getting take on the way home. if anything of consequences said we will bring it to you. don't hold your breath. if you are a defendant county court, these sneakers with their hollywood produced videos might have you on the ropes. then again, at your county court, these hollywood

it's about being -- it's about complete to donald trump. now donald trump is out of office. what could have happened. i think a lot about the wizard of oz and how the people of oz were faithful to the wizard until the curtain got pulled back and he didn't have any power. donald trump doesn't have any power. the republican party needs to figure out what it's with and make its move on that, but they don't have anything right now. trump is all they have. that's what you're seeing lindsey graham express, is that it's really trump or nothing. >> i'm looking down at my paper because i'm trying to figure out which sot from senator cassidy to play. actually, i want to play the -- element 3, his response to george stephanopoulos about whether donald trump will be -- will remain a force in the party. have a listen. >> will he remain a force in the republican party? what does that mean for the republican party? >> i think his force wanes. the republican party is more than just one person. >> michael steele, you're a former chairman of the republican party. is senator cassidy right, wil

what they donald trump do? did he stop, did he say now, supporters, thatis he stop, did he say now, supporters, that is not what i meant. now, he doubled down. let's see the evidence. doubled down. let's see the evidence-— doubled down. let's see the evidence. , ., ., ,, doubled down. let's see the evidence. , . ., ,, ., evidence. this was a massive fraud. it should never— evidence. this was a massive fraud. it should never take _ evidence. this was a massive fraud. it should never take place _ evidence. this was a massive fraud. it should never take place in - evidence. this was a massive fraud. it should never take place in this - it should never take place in this country — it should never take place in this country. we are like a third world country~ — country. we are like a third world country. look at georgia, i understand the secretary of state who is _ understand the secretary of state who is really an enemy of the people — who is really an enemy of the people. the secretary of state whether�

these are the reasons why i decided to quit donald trump. he said that was just one draft the only other page there was another draft his name is bill cassidy he had said that essentially he was convinced by the argument he was condemned by his own state party on tuesday for his vote so he is facing a very rough ride when he goes back to louisiana i mean he is a surgeon he's a whole respected surgeon and i'm sure bill cassidy could easily walk back into that job but he likes being a senator he likes helping people he's approached many things on a bipartisan basis and basis but he knows he's going to get a great deal of criticism from his own state party which is not something that often happened in the past a real moment of history that no president has ever been impeached twice only 3 presidents have ever been impeached donald trump is one of them and it's happened to him twice and twice now he has been acquitted i'm seeing on my social media feed some of his supporters absolutely delighted by this idea they're saying great he's going to ru

senate crossing the aisle and voting to convict donald trump for donald trump to be convicted in this trial and that is quite unlikely the last impeachment proceeding against donald trump saw only one republican mitt romney cross the aisle and vote to convict trump now it's important to know that donald trump is kind of going down in history at this moment he is at this point the only u.s. president to have ever been impeached twice and furthermore he is the only u.s. president to have been impeached after he finished serving his term when he was no longer in office so donald trump appears to be you know breaking quite a few records throughout his entire presidency he was under investigation there were constant allegations against him by democrats and by critics etc however many are looking on at what's happening here and wondering if this is really going to help heal the country democrats seem to be talking about the need to reunify the country but when we spoke to people around the country about this 2nd impeachment of donald trump after he's already left office we got quite an inte

donald trump never calls it off. never. he loves them. democrats also showed a video for the first time of a trump supporter reading out loud one of trump's tweets, making it perfectly clear how they went the other direction. they added and stoked the rage that the insurrectionists fell as they stormed the capitol. it was a gutting realization coming on the heels of a day of brand-new video evidence that house managers showed all day long revealing to the public for the first time just how perilously close to mortal danger mike pence, nancy pelosi, mitt romney and dozens was other lawmakers and police and the staff came on january 6th. let's bring in to our conversation the woman who is normally your steward for this hour on this network, joy reid. >> how are you? you know, nicole, i have been like everyone else just riveted to this -- to this coverage today. i had a class, my howard university class today so i sort of was an hour behind when i got out of class and came right in to stacy plaskett's presentation followed by eric swalwell's

says donald trump. no president has ever gone through anything like it, and it continues because our opponents cannot forget the almost 75 million people, the highest number everfor a the almost 75 million people, the highest number ever for a sitting president, who voted for us just a few short months ago. i also want to convey my gratitude to the millions of decent, hard—working, by abiding citizens who have bravely supported these important principles in these very difficult and challenging times. our historic patriotic and beautiful movement to make america great again has onlyjust begun. in the months ahead, i have much to share with you and i look forward to continuing our incredible journey together to achieve american greatness for all of our people. there has never been anything like it. we have so much work ahead of us, and soon we will emerge with a vision for a bright, radiant and limitless american future. together there is nothing we cannot accomplish. we remain one people, one family an

to have donald trump as a witness. so we'll never know, probably, on the development of the evidence exactly what he knew about that statement of his going to the capitol. he knew he was lying when he said he was going with them. did he know he was specifically violating the law of that permit when he was making that declaration? >> i mean, if past is prologue, the notion that donald trump would have an understanding of that level of detail is very far fetched. i don't think he would know that. i understand your point. certainly it would be, you know, a nice little piece of evidence in a courtroom trial but we need to disassociate this notion that what we're going to start to see tomorrow in the senate chamber is akin to a courtroom trial. it's not. it's very far from a courtroom trial. there's nobody who is making any evident area ruling. there's nobody making any rulings as to what arguments are okay. what arguments are not. what law is okay and what law is not. what facts, you know, you can rely on, what you can't r

that's a very specific break with donald trump from a very seniorformer member of break with donald trump from a very senior former member of his cabinet. which is an indication that perhaps more broadly republicans are starting to think yes, this trial could be giving them the cover they need to break with donald trump and move on from this part of the party public history. move on from this part of the party public history-— public history. fascinating to see how this is _ public history. fascinating to see how this is unraveling. _ public history. fascinating to see how this is unraveling. gary - public history. fascinating to see how this is unraveling. gary is i public history. fascinating to see l how this is unraveling. gary is back with us, sorry if i cut your break a little bit short there. good to see you. a number of people have been seen was having a social media here and then following it, so much as tweeted me to say when will donald trump appear? of course he is not appearing, izzy? trio trump appear? of course he is not appearing. lay?— trump appear? of course he is no

donald trump controls this party. until somebody can take it over from donald trump, they will continue to act again in their own interests. it is not a loyalty to donald trump. it is a loyalty to themselves. as trump remains popular in the gone republican leaders will go along with him because it serves their electoral interests. >> it is interesting, renee, i played sound from matt miller who was on hair lee harry will itman's podcast. e harry will itman's podcast. if they are bringing up donald trump's name over and over again and trying to put him at the forefront that will desubtract from that messages. if they wanted to be done with president trump they lost their last best chance to advantage wish him yesterday. instead of flexing they flinched and allowed donald trump to remain a player in the republican party. frankly, i am not convinced there is that much of a decide in the party. it is the most bipartisan impeachment vote. that's true, but only seven voted to convict him despite mountains of evidence that h

through my notes that they were saying that donald trump essentially. sparked the crowd and sent them on their way in for 2 hours 3 hours afterwards didn't do anything to stop it and several times they invoke the name of mike pence he is a republican he was very loyal to donald trump essentially i think what they're trying to do is draw a line in saying look mike pence was very loyal to donald trump and look what happened to him he was quite happy essentially to throw him to the crowd and there are they know that there are senators who are sitting in judgment here who are also very loyal to donald trump obliquely saying why why why you bring more oil to don't trump because if it's a case between what he wants and you he's never going to be loyal to use so not quite as dramatic as we saw on wednesday but just continuing to build the case broader and deeper from those opening statements yesterday morning and what's your sense of how this is going to playing with republicans given that it would require 17 of them to to cross over to convict trampy any sens

trump on the charge of high crimes and misdemeanors while giving his assessment donald trump's defense lawyer david sharing dismissed everything compiled and presented by the democrats i think to make. anyway. i think it's offensive i think it is of the healing process. the frenzy that happened on the dam and that i think there's an american. and they got to is in west palm beach florida on a donald trump's resort he says there's been no web from the former u.s. president. there has been some reporting that during the 1st 2 days of his 2nd impeachment trial he was glued to the television and was reportedly deeply unhappy with his lawyers performance there is other speculation that peter navarro his former economics advisor had called him and told him to fire his legal team rehire another legal team and focus on the fact what the democrats are calling the big lie what we now know is a big lie that the election was rigged so this is an uncharacteristically quiet president don't trump former president on top i should say but of course he has been muzzled from social media remember during

calling for the acquittal of donald trump. like many thanks for that our correspondent allen there in washington let's turn to our guests richard lampitt is a distinguished university professor emeritus of nor. at the university of michigan he joins me by skype from washington d.c. many thanks for speaking to us what do you make of the defense case today they had been criticized of having a very poor opening how do you think they performed. their case is a good one given what they want to do they want to appeal to donald trump they want to give cover to senators who are going to vote to acquit and would vote to acquit without any case and they want to appeal to trump space and those dimensions i think they've most likely succeeded but after the presentations when the fact checkers get busy when the lawyers get busy to analyze this i think you're going to find that the case contains a lot of dishonesty and it was full of irrelevancies everything about democratic senators or representatives using the word might have nothing to d

i just did what donald trump asked me to do. what do you think the -- i don't want to say policy, but sort of tone and tenor will be from the top of the justice department about these investigations at the federal level that very likely could touch donald trump. >> look, i suspect that they will be very clear they're not going to go back and reopen any of the old investigations. you know, the mueller report or what sdny looked at with campaign finance probes. those probes are over. they've been closed. it would be unusual. and i don't think necessarily warranted for the justice department to reopen them now. but that said, with the federal probe into what happened on january 6th, they absolutely have to look at donald trump's conduct. i suspect they will. again, there will be a very high bar for prosecution, and i think they wouldn't, you know, they wouldn't consider an indictment unless they were very sure of conviction, and that's going to be an incredibly high bar, but it would be derelict not to examine it. they'll have care