and major general charles dunlap was the air force's number two lawyer until his recent retirement. he's now a visiting professor of law at duke university. first, major tupper, how do you see the reasons for the rising tide of u.s. casualties? >> well, i think it's pretty straight forward. we're going into areas that we haven't been for years. we have force levels now that are on par to get into these home land, so to speak, safe areas that the talibans that been operating out of for years uncontested. so it's tragic, but it's logical to expect that we'll have more casualties as we go into their homeland and they fight to defend their logistical bases, their support bases. >> lehrer: do you agree, general, that this was pretty inevitable? >> i think it's inevitable when you put more troops on the ground, you're going to have more casualties. especially given the interpretation any way of the rules of engagement as being more restrictive. if you decide to take out the logistical centers that major tupper referenced by putting ground troops and sending ground troops after it, then yo