yamiche alcindor, the moderate of "washington week" on pbs. nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett haake. johan goldberg, editor in chief of the dispatch, and nbc news senior reporter brandy zadrozny, who reports on misinformation for us. jonah, i want to start with you 'cause i want you to help translate for some viewers that may be frustrated, shaking their head about the peter meijer interview and this idea that, well, the republican party may be stuck with trump and, well, the democrats are polarizing us too and that's -- you know, what about this, what about that. is that any way to get trump out of our democratic cross hairs? >> not necessarily. i substantially agree with some of what meijer said. i think one way to think about this is that we have elite failure in this country. and the failure of republican elites is pretty fricking obvious at this point. they've been feeding themselves one bite at a time to the trump alligator for five years. they've wrecked their reputation in all sorts of ways and their legacy in all sor