. >> this program, "firing line," was originally hosted by william f. buckley jr. education and education funding was an issue that buckley tackled periodically throughout his 33 years of hosting. and in 13, on this program, they said th about education funding. take a look. >> everybody talks about declining achievement scores in reading, writing, and arithmetic, but nobody does anything about them except john saxon, graham down, and "firing line." >> now, i contend that we have good teachers and poor teachers, we have good administrators and we havpoor administrators. and massive puts of federal money will accomplish no more than massive inputs of federal money have accomplished in the past. what we have got to do is stir what we have. >> the argument is, "we don't need more sugar in the coffee. we just need to stir the sugar in the coffee a little bit better." how does resources impact educational outcomes? >> i mean, i think it would be naive to suggest that somehow money doesn't matter. i mean, you have states that are sort of underesourcing education. new yor