the us taliban deal. there is one priority for me as an afghan and that is really to see any effort through non—violent means that can end this current bloodshed and this current armed conflict. my personal view, not representing even my family because ijust don't want their life to be in danger. ijust have this problem even calling this process a peace process because it's not a peace process, it'sjust a political settlement between the strongmen. a peace process would mean healing, transitionaljustice and listening to the victims, and nothing like that is happening. farahnaz forotan was at the talks, reporting for itv, a news channel in kabul. she is well known as an activist in helmand and has a social media campaign called myredline. she travelled the country asking people what they could and could not accept in a peace deal — their red lines. at the talks in doha, farahnaz interviewed a member of the taliban, she was not wearing a veil and this attracted a lot of media attention. two months later

has ended with the takeover of the taliban. that has opened up many areas that were previously insecure . it's interesting, there's a figure that is seldom reported. we estimated 170,000 displaced people, especially among the most recently displaced returned to their homes since august. this may sound counterintuitive but it is because many areas are more secure now than they have been in a long time and we did take advantage of this. we need to bring as much as possible military and assistance to those areas to offset the risks, the life-saving risks that many afghans are running at the moment and then of course in that space which humanitarian dialogue is opening up with the taliban we need to use that space in other ways.we need to continue topromote the notion that women must work . that minoritiesmust be represented . girls must advance in school. these are complex discussions with the taliban but this allows us to have those discussions on behalf of the internationalcommunity . >> in addition to the absence of civil confl

these people face both from victims and the taliban themselves. it costs $1.00. bon judge telling a german newspaper. i called for homosexuals that can only be 2 punishments, either stoning or he must stand behind a wall that will fall down on him. and one man reported having to pass through taliban checkpoints to collect his paycheck. at one he was beaten, then taken away to be whipped and gang raped. when he was released, he was told i caught from now on any time we want to be able to find you, we will and we will do whatever we want with you. and for more, i'm joined by one of the authors of that report. heather bar, she is also associate director of women's rights at human rights watch and joined me from islam above miss bow from what the report describes. it appears there is just no way an l g. b, t q person can live with dignity and have gone on. would you agree with that? i'm afraid. yeah. you know, it's pretty impossible to live in a place where, you know, you have all the homophobia that existed before. but now you have a situation where

last is like under taliban rule. year, after 20 years of war, last year, after 20 years of war, the taliban retook afghanistan. 0ver100,000 afghanistan. over 100,000 people fled. now, with access to the new taliban government, i want to find out that the country is like under their rule. they face a country shattered by war. the economy is close to collapse and millions face starvation. every baby and child and here is in a critical state. wejust don't child and here is in a critical state. we just don't know if they are going to make it. and this one—time terrorist group now faces a new terror threat of can the taliban form a government that can put their violent past behind them and help rebuild this broken country? the last time i was in afghanistan, it was two months before the taliban took kabul. almost everyone i've met then, members of the former government, human rights activist and journalists have since led the country in fear of reprisals from the new taliban government. routes into the country beginning to reopen, i'd decided to head back to afghanistan to see for myself what

they'd both lost their teaching jobs when the taliban took over. they are now living off their savings. a month before we met, this dost family organised a protest against the restrictions on girls�* education imposed by the taliban. they invited everyone they knew, but on the day, they were the only ones to show up. i was struck by the risks this family were willing to take to demand an education for their daughter. under the previous government, girls receiving an education and women working had become the norm in kabul, but there are parts of afghanistan where things were very different. i travelled 500km to kandahar, in the south of the country. it has always been seen as the conservative heartland of the taliban. me walking around here would have felt unimaginable a few months ago. and now, late in the afternoon as the sun's setting, we are out and about, walking around quite freely. it's clearly a different place, a different time — and a different country. but despite the surprising calm on the streets, there was a hidden threat here tha

will there be divergent to the taliban? -- diversion to the taliban? if the taliban is smart, they won't try to put their hands on the money but there probably is going to be some leakage. that is why we say the donors have to come up with what is an acceptable amount of leakage to the taliban. what you are talking about is actually starting development aid. the u.n. document headset that. i am not saying we should or should not. i think right now we have a crisis of afghans freezing and starving to death and dying of diseases. that is humanitarian aid. if the united states government which they have said, they want to help those afghans. we are saying here the 10 things you need to keep in mind and does not get diverted to beltway bandits in the united states. nobody wants the money to go to the taliban. shuja: i'm glad you pointed out corruption is not endemic to afghanistan alone. we have noticed a lot inside the beltway and you have identified some of the culprits to the taliban -- the culprits are the taliban government itself should not be credit

will there be divergent to the taliban? -- diversion to the taliban? if the taliban is smart, they won't try to put their hands on the money but there probably is going to be some leakage. that is why we say the donors have to come up with what is an acceptable amount of leakage to the taliban. what you are talking about is actually starting development aid. the u.n. document headset that. i am not saying we should or should not. i think right now we have a crisis of afghans freezing and starving to death and dying of diseases. that is humanitarian aid. if the united states government which they have said, they want to help those afghans. we are saying here the 10 things you need to keep in mind and does not get diverted to beltway bandits in the united states. nobody wants the money to go to the taliban. shuja: i'm glad you pointed out corruption is not endemic to afghanistan alone. we have noticed a lot inside the beltway and you have identified some of the culprits to the taliban -- the culprits are the taliban government itself should not be credit

the taliban attacks on civic space and protests is alarming. it is also contrary to the promises they have made to the international community that they would respect women's rights and human rights. that shows how their actions are toward women. women who are asking for basic rights. they want to go to school, have political participation, and have a workplace. to have some kind of contribution to the community. we do not have any information on the three females who have been detained by the taliban. they broke down the doors and got into their houses. they got the females out. they do not know where they are now. if they want to show us that they believe in the value of human rights, they need to imminently relse them. and also send them back to their houses. mediately they need to release them. the families were right about them. all the afghan women who are seeing that. brent: standby, because we hav another report. we want to show another example of how the taliban rules everyday life and how it is becoming more and more bizarre. take a l

government, the taliban 2.0 is the same taliban that ruled afghanistan very harshly during the 1990's. it may be too soon to answer that question. what i would to ask you is, what is the taliban's ideology and outlook as we can observe it to date on certain issues, including, as you mentioned before, the role of women and religious minorities mean for the work that u.n. h.c.r. is doing, how does it affect the vital assistance you are providing? filippo: this is such an important question you are asking. i think it has many aspects. i will try to be quick in responding. first of all, is this the same type of taliban government that we saw in the 1990's? you know, i have been involved in afghanistan for decades. i have some -- even some personal comparisons i can make. i don't know. it's difficult to say. certainly, what has changed, and it has been said so many times already, afghanistan itself. the afghanistan that the taliban took over in 1996, 1997, was profoundly different than the afghanistan that they have taken over reenltly. and -- recently. and they have to live with that. th

for l g b t q. persons in taliban group of jonathan. ah . irish energy welcome to did up the news asia said you could join us. talks between rest and officials and taliban delegates have ended in our slow without any concrete agreement. representatives of the united states and european nations linked humanitarian aid to afghanistan with an improvement in the rights of women and minorities. the thought about don demanded the $10000000000.00 in of gone cash reserves, currently frozen by united states and other western countries, be released. so afghans can be held overall though they seemed pleased with the 3 they talk saying they gave them an opportunity to get caught closer to the world. these talks are controversial from the start. critic said sitting down with the taliban ment legitimizing them. but host norway disagreed, saying it was about creating a foreign exchanging messages. so this is, sir, i believe, a measure that makes it possible to hold those who hold power in afghanistan accountable. and to really communicate the clear ne

a taliban government to call it term it as a taliban government is incorrect. this is the government representative government of the people understand it did not come here through an airplane. it was not a drop. the leadership was not dropped. it was not backed by foreign forces. it is the people of understand that this new government represents and for the world that is absolutely necessary, it is imperative to engage with this new government and accept the unique unique quality off the afghan people for what it is and engage with it in dialogue . if there is any outstanding issues, it can all be resolved through dialogue and right. using pressure tactics is not the answer to, to the problems that einstein is facing. understood, are girls still being excluded from education in afghanistan? no, that statement is only half the truth. it is not the complete truth, and i understand from primary all the way to new levels. all women are allowed to attend school and attended cation on the public sector. from grade one to 6, all girls are attending school and in a co

and we just heard the taliban spokesperson say that afghans have wanted peace and that the taliban has delivered on bringing that and security to citizens despite the ongoing economic challenges that ring true to you. no. ah, what we have to remember is that both he is one of these guys, you know, like with the former government, he, someone who came from abroad in this case he came from new zealand. so maybe he doesn't fully understand the context of the, of on war. but, you know, what he seems to be missing is that this isn't as much of a flex as he thinks it is, because yes, there are fewer killings now or there. they are much, much less killings now, but that's because the taliban was one of the main belligerents in the war. so if you look at the war right, there were 3 forces behind it. there was the foreigners who essentially gave up 34 years ago when they really took the piece process seriously than there was the government, you know, the foreigners and the government were both responsible for, you know, innumerable civilian casualties. but obviously the lar and they ran away on

in february, 2020, the trump administration signed an agreement we the taliban this required the taliban sever all ties with al qaeda before the u.s. withdrew. did the taliban, to the best of your knowledge, meet the requirements of the 2020 agreement before the biden administration withdrew? mr. landberg: thank you, sir. we have been very clear, we're very mission focused right now and we have been clear with the taliban what we expect of them in terms of counterterrorism. they are aware that they need to, if they want to build any legitimacy with the united states and the international community cut ties with al qaeda and ensure afghanistan never again becomes a source of terrorist threat to the united states or any of our allies. they're absolutely focused on degrading isis-k and also there's been many discussions on our concerns about al qaeda and the persistent presence in part of afghanistan. mr. grothman: since you can't answer, i take it that means there are still some ties there? what's the deal? mr. landberg: the taliban, including in a meeting a few days ago, have assured the

the taliban denies it is behind the abductions. our correspondent quentin sommerville sent us the report from kabul -- this report from kabul. quentin: in body and spirit, afghan women are under attack from the taliban. here fighting for the righto work much education, they are pepper sprayed -- work, for education, they are pepper sprayed by taliban fighters. women have value, they shout. it takes raw courage to stand up to armed men. please help, the taliban have come to my house. my sisters are home, please one of the protesters daysater. we do not want you here now, she screams. she has been missing for two days now. we went to her home to try to find her. neighbors say women were taken away from here by armed men. >> footprint, a boot print on the door. three women were taken away and still have not returned. friends and family say they have not heard from them either. other women protesters wer targeted that night. another is missing. still, the taliban denies it took them. >> if we had detained them, they would say we have d

the afghan economy has all that collapsed since the taliban returned. but is there a reason for hope and trouble on the tracks here? how cargo trains are being regularly looted in los angeles? this is date of your business, our robots in berlin. welcome to the program budget, ty berto and has pledged to bring down turkey's soaring inflation and the pressure from the president, turkey central bank as slashed rates in recent months, triggering a currency crisis. a correspondent julia han reports from miss tumble. who are d m n g a has to print new price stickers, milk eggs toilet paper. almost everything he sells in his small shop in istanbul, scotty co district has become more expensive again. normally those wanted him to take this pack of pastor for example, a year ago i sold it for 3.5 years now it costs more than twice as much. that's not normal. thank you. manufacturers and wholesalers are hiking prices several times a month. and d m n g has to do the same. sometimes he says he is barely able to keep up on for another reason. i've been a shopkeeper f

but i think now, like with the taliban's turn, we're seeing buyers remorse because the way the taliban is ruling, with the than first approach, it's quite unmanageable and no surprise the government based on their own terms and absolute terms, they want the world to deal with them based on those terms and now, if you ask me, the taliban, absolutely not, altogether ignored enabling external factors that facilitated the taliban's behavior, absolutely, yes. and i think in this state, pakistan was or us accepting that as one of the gross misjudgments was, you know, in allowing them to do whatever they were doing as usual was something that really was important factor. the government was-- i was serving under, it was absolutely, but it was an important pakistan element to this one. i think that needs to be unpacked and i think this is also something that the united states needs to pay a lot more attention to going forward. one thing i do want to mention, i think this was mentioned in your remarks as well is that i would argue that in truth, america, the united states never really had a winn

the taliban tried to tear it down. then in august 2021, they succeeded the taliban over and cobble the insurgents. once again, the institutional power was to do one. now these young taliban fighters room the streets of the capital. as urban police. it's a new chapter for a generation. there's no nothing but you had looks you tell them to call you to call it. but when i started fighting the americans, i was 14 or 15 years old to them on the road to. my brother was a group leader. and i could only take part in some vessels. colors for my the my, when i turned 20, i spent all my time fighting with the merger, di, what on the bottom level own from the glory of the battlefield, to the banality of peace. the taliban of inherited the country scarred by war. and the people that views him with suspicion and fear rebundle silicon, the past 20 years americans have occupied our country. and they've attacked us in various ways. now what they call one, that's us. and they've created a mindset and help people through the media. and t

the access that we have, the taliban, i have met with our teams have met with out in the provinces as well as in cobble. and they have assured us allowing us to operate in partially independently neutrally. and they've honored that we've been able to operate do what we need to do to reach the innocent victims of this conflict if we get the money that we need . and that's our biggest limitation right now we can reach the afghan people without any one including the taliban, interfering with our operations in that extremely important for us. but as a humanitarian effort, enough sanctions and asset freezes have been applied to the taliban since they came into government and they are hitting the wanted me in afghanistan. hard. should these measures be reconsidered? so the long term solution is not humanitarian aid. the long term solution is going to be the international community, figuring the path forward so that afghanistan can revitalize, is economy and move on with this life. because we've got so many crises right now around the world. because if we don't have enough of money more wide

the - the taliban came control. the taliban have _ the taliban came control. the taliban have been _ the taliban came control. taliban have been to these the taliban came control— taliban have been to these protests and other women who have taken part in these protests are in hiding and other women who have taken part in these protests are in hiding in fear them too. the former pope, benedict the sixteenth, has expressed shock at the sexual abuse of children by clerics, after a report accused him of failing to take action in four cases back when he was archbishiop of munich, germany. benedict, who was then called josef ratzinger, denies any wrongdoing. victims�* groups have welcomed the report's findings. with more from berlin, the bbc�*sjenny hill. the world came to know him as pope benedict xvi. but he was archbishop in the german diocese of munich and they said it was there that he, in effect, failed to act in four child sex abuse cases. he allowed three priests who have convictions for crimes against children to work in the diocese and also focused o

all that changed with the taliban takeover now its deserted. the normally busy kiosks, empty and padlocked, cobbling hill if it used to be very good and there was scheme, programs and competitions in the winter. they used to be so many tourists. but since the taliban came in the last 4 months, we haven't seen any tourists in bondage mia, to see that the one is more the when the narrative. today, visitors are greeted by arm taliban soldiers and vehicle inspections of towns once flocked to bundy. i'm here looking for a break from decades of conflict. the region prospered, but now it's taking the double hit from the pandemic and the economic crisis following the taliban victory over the mother by them. it's 70 to 80 families living in the village, and they livelihood depend entirely on tourism couldn't oh the if they're a tourists, their income is good. if not one, they have nothing. when micha, without the tourists, the striking beauty of the mountains remains. but the people who live here are facing a winter of hardship. fortunately though some

before the taliban took over, she had 80 employees at 3 different textile workshops. they were mostly women. now she only has 30 so missouri coded in the past. we had so much work to do like we had different types of contracts. we could easily pay a salary to our master tailors and other workers, but currently we have no contract. the international labor organization reported on wednesday that employment for women fell by 16 per cent. in the 3rd quarter of 2021, the taliban took over in the middle of that quarter. meanwhile, men in the same period saw 6 per cent, less employment. billions of dollars of aid and reserves were cut off from afghanistan when the western backed government felt an economic crisis is gripping the country. and advocates say that it's being disproportionately felt by women. either ma, honey, my monthly income is around $1000.00 afghani or $10.00, and i'm the only person working in my family. money means a lot to me as we can solve lots of our problems with the money. unfortunately, since the taliban came to power, there is virtually no income a

wonderful also coming up, the taliban tells d w. news. we're here to stay and the world will have to live with it. the current government off of land is that the new government that has come to power as manifest reality and or the world needs to engage with it to our viewers on p b. s. in united states and around the world. welcome. and we began the day with europe preparing for a new wave of coven 19 infections to start the new year. there are fears the alma chron, variant will cause case numbers to climb, to record highs, increasing pressure on hospitals, and leaving many workplaces short staffed. rome days away from tougher restrictions. italy is one of so many european countries, again, faced with and braced for increased hardship in the form of regulated movement, tougher economic times and overflowing intensive care units. the director of this room hospital says for a month we have been systematically full. i think, i mean the be any stark contrast to last summer and fall in rome. when infections were down, restrictions were relaxed

to taliban flat, the end of the taliban. taliban leadership on the run. and now the question is, how do you handle that success? ah, ah, it, it wasn't supposed to be this way. the taliban wasn't supposed to sweep the country in me a weeks. the pentagon spent a decade preparing to leave of gaston, and even they weren't ready for this. together with our eyes, we will complete our mission bear. by the end of this year, i announced a timeline for drawing down our forces. we are working to finally and america's longest war is timed and for evermore merrick, his proudest movement of the afghan war wasn't supposed to be a humiliating evacuation under the guns of the taliban. but it was, there is absolutely nothing else to celebrate. the united states ended 20 years of war in afghanistan, the longest war and american history. we completed one of the biggest air lists in history. with more than 120000 people evacuated to safety. no nation, no nation has ever done anything like it in all history. the only in the united states had the capacity to will and billeted t

all but one. 0, until the taliban takeover mina nodded. he's 15 year old son, nima sang in afghanistan, se children's choir, but the taliban cracked down on music. nima had to escape. in mid december, he and his fellow musicians arrived in portugal. the portuguese authorities had got them out of afghanistan. his mother in germany is hoping she'll get to see her son soon. somewhere in europe. oh my gosh hollis, i'm satisfied. i'm in safety. my son is safe in portugal and i'm very happy about that, or is it pushes through? ah, can he wouldn't stand on her own 2 feet again? i wish for god to bring peace to afghanistan sounded more so that we couldn't return to our home, and better off than we were before. kennimore bore dest supported me now, now did he, and her family can stay in germany for the next 3 years. ha, ha, ha, goes to school here, or the family will soon be relocated to a camp closer to berlin. they're still collecting donations to help the people in afghanistan. finally, heavy snow and strong winds are disrupting transport links

now, the west wants to engage with the taliban. you may remember the taliban has not been recognised by the world community yet and giving aid to a country where the government is not recognised, and many of these taliban ministers, they are on the un sanctions list, so it is a complicated process to give aid to afghanistan. at the same time, after the war ended, there are millions of people waiting for food aid and almost all activity has come to a standstill in afghanistan and people are running short of food and there is a shortage of currency, so that's why the west wants to send aid into afghanistan but they want to engage with the taliban, and that's why they have invited them to oslo for these three—day talks. at the same time, they do not want to give moneyjust like that. they want the taliban to respect what they had promised earlier, for example you know, opening schools, reopening schools for teenage girls and also allowing women in employment in other sectors and also respecting human rights. so, they want to emphasis

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she was a public figure when the taliban took cobble. she went into hiding with her family and started looking for a way out mid november at berlin airport. mina nodded. he finally arrived in germany with her family. it was a moment of great relief after a strenuous escape. the family had managed to leave afghanistan by land using fake passports, elderly, a german lawyer, organized the visa for germany and the flight tickets. now the family are in safety, all but one until the taliban takeover mina nodded. he's 15 year old son nima sang in afghanistan, se children's choir. but the taliban cracked down on music. nima had to escape. in mid december, he and his fellow musicians arrived in portugal. the portuguese authorities had got them out of afghanistan. his mother in germany is hoping she'll get to see her son soon. somewhere in europe. oh my gosh hollis, i'm satisfied. i'm in safety. my son is safe in portugal and i am very happy about that or is it was his though? ah, can he wouldn't stand on her own 2 feet again. i wish for god to br

"the taliban have come to my house. my sisters are at home", pleads tamana, one of the protesters, days later. "we don't want you here now", she screams. tamana has been missing for two days now. we went to her home to try and find her. neighbours say women were taken away from here by armed men. you can see a footprint, a bootprint on the door. three women were taken away, and they still haven't returned. friends and family say they haven't heard from them either. other women protesters were targeted that night. another is missing. still, the taliban denies it took them. if they had detained them, they would say we have detained them, and that is their allegation and they will go to the court to defend themselves. this is something legal. but they are not detained and they are making such fake scenes and shooting films in order to seek asylum abroad. but tamana's friends tell a different story. translation: i told her as soon as possible, leave your home. i take this more seriously. you are in danger. when i got home,

we've had the taliban on this program. there are defect negotiations going on between native governments and the taliban. you mean they're kind of negotiating without either more or less? well, i think there's the danger that look there's if there's a big question, whether there's a new moderate taliban leadership or whether it's the same old crew that the government afghan, a stand in the late 1990. i think it's still early to make a final conclusion, but i think the early evidence is not very encouraging that moderate forces have somehow taken over with taliban. and i think it's one of the reasons why even the buys administration has been hesitant to unfreeze afghan assets, turn them over to taliban to resume humanitarian assistance until we find out whether there's still a terrorist group as they seem to be or whether there's something else the pans through the european union have jumped in a little bit early. i think they may come to regret that a lot of money. they seem to be giving, i mean, might say it was after all

a taliban government to call it term it as a taliban government is incorrect. this is the government representative government of the people understand it did not come here through an airplane. it was not a drop. the leadership was not dropped. it was not backed by foreign forces. it is the people of understand that this new government represents and for the world that is absolutely necessary, it is imperative to engage with this new government and accept the unique unique quality off the other people for what it is and engage with it in dialogue. if there is any outstanding issues, it can all be resolved through dialogue and right. using pressure tactics is not the answer to, to the problems that i understand is facing. understood? are girl still being excluded from education in afghanistan? no, that statement is only half the truth. it is not the complete truth and understand from primary all the way to new levels. all women are allowed to attend school and attended occasion on public sector. from grade one to 6, all girls are attending school and in a conser

and taliban leadership. right now the communication of where the money can go is unclear. and there such an clarity that many organizations, most organizations, are very anxious to provide money to civil servants, to hospitals, to government-run schools if that does not change immediately. amy: dr. spiegel, your response to the progressive caucus demanding the biden administration lift economic sanctions imposed after the taliban took over? the congressional caucus tweeting if the current u.s. economic policy toward afghanistan continues, "there could be more civilian deaths this year than there were in 20 years of war." what has been the biden response to the progressives? >> i would nuance the idea of saying lifting sanctions versus ensuring there is sufficient humanitarian exceptions as we have seen in venezuela and in yemen, amongst other countries. so whether it is completely stopping the sanctions -- i think that is a political decision. regardless whether it is stopped, there can be very clear humanit

so the taliban needs the funds. what does that you need to see in return? you just mentioned women rights, women's rights, anything else? we expect absolutely the opening of schools for all girls. and we also think that it is very important for a gun. it's time to have a broad inclusive government. we have made that point several times with a guy with, with, with, with the taliban. it's not only about women, but it's also about all forces, ethnic groups, geographical representation. and i think this point is, is always off importance. and this time we stress, particularly the central bank and the liquidity crisis, because we think, i mean one thing is, humanitarian assistance that the europe in union has increased 6 fold since since the, the summer. but we are also talking about some basic needs in health, primary education and food security. and for that to happen, i think we need to see also progress from the taliban. have you talk to us about the humanitarian situation rather because i know you've just come out of i've got to stop. i mean the, you win is