and according to wendy sherman, the had of the you asked delegation here at the main goal of the meeting today was to sit together for each side to voice their concerns and to listen to each other that. and that is what happened. she is cried the talks as frank and forthright and so difficult, and that is, was the hat of the russian delegation. ca recall also said about to the talks, but let's have a listen to what he had to say. but which one? yeah, you would actually be to go to negotiations around russia. security proposal. you guys are very difficult. go, wearable slaughter mill. long. do you very professional watching, but if you, sir, man, deep, good boykin and concrete. concordia ma'am beers, without any attempts to gloss over or avoid any difficult points about you got either or through glee, we were left with the impression that the american side will take on russia's proposal or very seriously not wishing to use them. but ashleigh crashes can put it loving him so significant in short but possessions. alexandra remain entrenched. yes, he writes, leila, and the problem is that th

we welcome wendy sherman, the u.s. deputy secretary of state, and the diplomat who led the most recent talks with the russian federation. welcome, and also welcome my fellow board members. united states plays a key role in protecting the principles of international law, and for the right of every nation to choose their own way into the future. secretary sherman, what can you tell ukrainians and europeans, what is our way forward? sec. sherman: thank you so much. really, did an extraordinary job as president of your country. thank you for that warm welcome and kindly agreeing to serve as our moderator for today's discussion. i am looking forward to our conversation. i also want to thank yalta european security for hosting this virtual event. and to acknowledge the chairman of your board, former polish president. for nearly two decades yas, has been an important form for building ties between the ukraine, the united states, and the wider world, and organizing substantive conversations like this one today. last week secre

good morning, congressman sherman. my question is, or my feeling is, ipo have been watching the ukraine situation d over the la month or so, and to me, it is the most important issue of the day. thes filibuster, the january 6, it's all noise compared to this. and whatc. i'm seeing is presidt biden slow walking us into a confrontation with russia, which could beti catastrophic. and he's making some mistakes. i think one big mistake was to announce whatce his sanctions would be, and not realizing that if he imposes sanctions, the price of gas in america will probably triple. and so what is he thinking when he's going to put hardships on the american people to combat russia? i just think he's making blunder after blunder. he's going to back himself into a corner, and what has he got to do exceptt fight? i'm really just really concerned about the ukraine issue. and i just don't see president biden doing anything positive right now to avoid it. >> all right, john. congressman usherman. >>>> well, biden didn't wake up one da

now, this is a situation where sherman says, the u. s. is very steadfast, that it is opposed to an invasion of ukraine, although it was not specifically discussed at monday's meeting. she did say that the u. s. is trying to find a way to resurrect the intermediate term missile a treaty, that the u. s. and others say that the russians have a broken by stationing on min medium range missiles around its territory aimed at western europe. been. she also said that one thing is not going to change the idea that nato is not going to open its membership to countries that want to be members . she said that would be infringing on those countries right? to decide how to conduct their foreign policy. she did say there's a lot of work to do, but this is just the beginning and whether the russians are trying to basically create a situation to justify an invasion of ukraine. she said, well, we'll just have to see what they're actually doing yet just to focus on that more rosalind. i mean, as you said, no talk or other countries joining nato. of course,

s. deputy secretary of state, wendy sherman said the talks couldn't be considered negotiations under current terms and that russia must deescalate. now, if moscow wants to keep talking, russia has been massing soldiers near the ukranian border for weeks, causing concern for russia. denies any intention to attack russia's deputy foreign minister called the talks professional. but he says moscow remains firm on a central point to we on the score that for us is absolutely mandatory to make sure that the ukraine never, never, ever, becomes a member of nato. and the answer to that from brussels. the door to nato remains open for ukraine due to memorial renew. it is for ukraine on the 3rd to nato allies, to decide when ukraine is ready for membership. no one else has and there are 2 same thing. multiple experts suspect that for rushes, president putin. the uncompromising wrangling in geneva is about more than ukraine, if staggered us, i think in the end what he can get is a process which could take longer and could work towards negotiating a new european security order, and one of an annoy

but you've seen just this enormous outreach to the europeans by wendy sherman and by other us officials to keep talking to the europeans. right up until the last minute they walked into those bilateral talks. then wendy sherman came to brussels yesterday and spent all day debriefing. nato allies, debriefing european union officials meeting with the top leadership in the e. u, as well as in nato, even before heading into these nato. russia talks now. so the u. s. is definitely trying to keep true to its word that it won't discuss anything about europe without europe, anything about ukraine without ukraine. we just had 4 years of the trump administration, wanting to disengage with nato getting if you will, show me with russia the have that left in the permanent scars, that data i think it has. and this, this, this outreach, i mean honestly, almost too much outreach. it sometimes seemed like you know, more than 100 meetings or something like this. this is partly a legacy of the trumpet ministration, where the europeans had no clue from day to day, except by looking at twitter, what the u.

they were of straightforward again wendy sherman's language. but she said this wasn't a negotiation. this was really the attempt. she said for the us and for russia to take the measure of each other's concerns. since are the meeting last summer between president vladimir putin and joe biden. the president of the european palm and david cecily has died at the age of $65.00. his spokesman said he'd been in hospital since december 26 after a series of complications related to his immune system. saucily had been the president of the parliament since 2019 said lawson has more from amsterdam. yes. fell ill of a very severe case of pneumonia in september. during a plenary session of the european parliament. he was out of the office for 2 months . he wasn't there when there was a prominent state of the union address, so of the european parliament back in september. then he recovered it. but then he went into hospital again in december for what his spokesman called an immune deficiency to was an a serious problem with his immune system. and now he sudde

this is a situation where sherman says the u.s. is steadfast that it is opposed to an invasion of ukraine, although it was not specifically discussed at the meeting. she did say the u.s. is trying to find a way to resurrect the intermediate missile treaty that the u.s. and others say the russians have broken by stationing medium-range missiles around its territory aimed at western europe. she also said that one thing is not going to change, the idea that nato is not going to open its membership to countries that want to be members. she said that would be infringing on those countries right to decide how to conduct their foreign policy. she said there is a lot of work to do, but this is just the beginning. whether the russians are trying to basically create a situation to justify an invasion of ukraine, she said we will have to see what they are actually doing. >> kimberly martin is professor of political science at bernard college. she says it is good that the sides are talking, but these meetings may not mean much to lowering tens

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secretary of date wendy sherman will talk about the ukraine conflict. until then, the washington journal. >> a shot of the capitol in washington d.c. across washington, policy officials will gather at the walter washington convention center to talk about issues looking at automobiles and, in fact, it's their public policy day at the auto show. joining us to start a series of conversations with the auto show is john o'donnell, he's the president and ceo of the washington area new automobile dealers association, mr. donald, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> live now to a discussion with deputy secretary of state wendy sherman on the russian-ukraine conflict. this is live coverage on c-span2. >> the diplomates who led the most recent talks with the russian federation. madam secretary, welcome and welcome, also, in the name of my fellow board members. the united states for protecting the principles of international law and for the rights of every nation to choose their own way into the future. secretary sherman, what can you tell ukra

we heard from when sherman the under secretary of state for the united states, saying that the u. s. s. position was that they wouldn't be talking about any one without them in the room. we then had also already heard from insult him. the thing that you bring was a big issue. of course, ukraine wasn't in the room at native today. begs the question whether the u. s. is a bit of double speak, but for the moment, no concrete break breakthrough on these negotiations. but it is some might say at least something that for the 1st time in more than 2 years, the nato, russia council has actually met. yeah, at least said something showed up in the sky there in brussels, bringing to the extensive coverage of these massive talks today. thanks for now. come back later. bad day again. far as johnson, the britain's prime minister is admitted that he did attend to downing street policy at the back garden of number 10 at the heights of the 1st national cove locked in 2020. and it was a tough lockdown to at the time for everyone else. he apologized to britain's then who at the time we're not even a

now we have the problem of ukraine tend to, they're extremely high and it's clear according to wendy sherman and her press conference yesterday, that nato is not willing to shut the door. they're going to maintain their open door policy. and it's up to countries that they really want to apply to nato, that they're leaving the door open. and this is something that president putin has been clear that he was a treaty outlining that neither ukraine nor ga could ever join nato. so this is something i don't know how they're going to get around. so this is kind of an intractable point right now. and many analysts have wondered, did put, make these maps melissa request to see how much he would get in return. so this is a rose and clear about what put in his doing. he has it. we have fallen if, if his demands include all you other countries that join nato was 1987 would have to leave. and so in many respects what he is doing by surrounding you came with a 100000 soldiers. some haven't seen that as black mel trying to get negotiations, but others in russia feel that finally were being heard. so it rem

wendy sherman's assessment was that to the meetings on monday about 8 hours worth of talks. with the survey rubric coffin, his delegation were useful. they were frank heard language, they were of straightforward again wendy sherman's language. but she said this wasn't a negotiation. this was really the attempt. she said for the u. s. and for russia to take the measure of each other's concerns. sense of the meeting last summer, between president slide amir potent and joe biden. russia's president was claimed victorian defending neighboring kazakhstan from what he called a foreign backed uprising. more than a 160 people were killed during last week's antique government. protests, monica, when president daniel ortega has been sworn in for a 4th through his inaugurated comes in the u. s. on the you impose new sanctions on nicaraguan officials in response to novembers disputed election. the united nations held meetings and cartoon to find a way to end the political deadlock.

this combs as the deputy secretary of state that wendy sherman said, but as far as the united states source, they could see russia using force against ukraine before me to february. this, of course, something russia vehemently denies. we also heard from wendy sherman saying that nato had as of yet not made up a firm decision on what to do when it came to the situation regarding ukraine. very keen to see what anthony blinking has to say all very new news. this developing it of course, soon as we hear anything from gans, dalton book coming out of brussels as well be bringing you all of the latest here. what we have in terms of coming what's come out of europe so far. with relation to the, the german side, i'm seeing gay from berlin. there is a continuation of the message from germany that they will not send weapons directly to ukraine. they are sending age to ukraine, though of course there's part of the european union that will be sending perhaps part of a $1320000000.00. a financial aid package not still to be signed off by a lot of people though. but when it comes to, to immediate 8

i have seen some of the readouts from deputy secretary of state wendy sherman. and we've been clear from the beginning, and president biden has been clear from the beginning, that russia has to deescalate. they have to pull back the forces that they've amassed along the ukrainian border. and if they take aggressive actions in terms of military invasion, that they will face very punishing sanctions. not only from the united states, but importantly, with our allies, because that multiplier effect on sanctions is so important. so you're right. this was sort of the opening day of back and forth. but the united states has been very clear that when it comes to the nato alliance, nobody is going to dictate. russia is not going to dictate to the united states, our allies, or other countries about who can join and who cannot. >> and you know, at the same time, what she's saying is they may have to pull back and go into their bare racks. they can't just stay on russian soil amassed in more than 100,000 in numbers with heavy equipment tanks and the like and say that is not

oh, interesting with zoom in our briefing with wendy sherman. it was all so what do you mean by d escalating on the border with ukraine? m. how? because after all these russian troops are in russia, is a russian troops in russia. how on earth can the west say, move your troops around when this is but it's, we're rushes to the us over the country. and when the showman, when pressed, was quite interesting, actually, because she said when she, when i talked about the escalation, she means returned the troops to barracks. and this is new, or tell us what exercises are on going and what their purposes russia. keep saying, these are just military exercises that are going on at the border that seem to be a bit a bit new from wendy sherman, that it's not necessarily a get the troops back to barracks or else, but actually be more transparent about what exactly those troops are up to share frequency with the latest from washington d. c. she had thank you. or meanwhile, russia's president has claimed victory in defending neighbor kazakhstan from what he ca

host: congressman sherman? guest: biden did not wake up one day and say "let's have a crisis in the ukraine. putin woke up. those trips on the border are not biden's idea. that is putin's forces. biden very much does not want international distractions. his focus is on domestic policy. this is a crisis biden does not want. second, the idea that the gentleman mentions gas -- i assume he is talking about natural gas, because that is what we were talking about before. we don't import any natural gas from russia. in fact, the united states exports natural gas. and natural gas is a complicated and expensive thing to move from one continent to another. so -- it has to be liquefied, and that is an expensive process. so to think that we would ever import natural gas from russia, when we have so much natural gas in the united states that we are liquefying it and exporting it to asia, is -- now i will say this. if russia invades the ukraine -- that is not biden's idea. that is putin's idea. america has to respond. the le

, deputy secretary sherman, thank you very much. thanks for taking time to talk to us today. >> thank you, andrea. >> and squloining us now for reaction to that conversation with the deputy secretary, the admiral, formernateo supreme ally commander. and bill taylor, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. welcome both. admiral, what the secretary just said is that they don't have to go across the border, that a cyber attack or continued provocation, misinformation, disinformation, stirring up the militias in the dombas region there's more that would also trigger sanctions, and she says the allies all 30 strong are absolutely rock solid. do you think that's true? >> i do. i feel the nato alliance, and this is based on my conversations with many sources in europe and also with ambassador smith and others, the alliance is completely aligned on this. the question is and you heard the ambassador use an interesting word, what about a hybrid attack? a hybrid attack is kind of a mix of conventional tanks, troops, missiles, armor and cyber propag

. >> deputy secretary of state wendy sherman today said the u.s. sees every indication russian president vladimir putin intends to use military force against ukraine. she made the remarks during a virtual discussion. hosted by -- european strategy. >> welcome to this online conversation cohosted with the foundation support ukraine's european perspective. ukraine -- free democratic process. kremlin has put striking demands to all of our russian could security concerns. russia said if the demands are not met it will consider military measures. it's totally understandable that ukraine feels it is a hostage. what can europe and the west do to protect ukraine's territorial integrity and also most importantly, ukrainian freedom to choose their own way echo we -- their own way? we welcome wendy sherman, the u.s. deputy secretary and a brilliant diplomat. welcome and welcome in the name of my fellow board members. the united states played a key role for protecting the principles of international law and for the right of every nation to choose their own way

you heard deputy secretary sherman talk about two of them. one of them is reviving the intermediate nuclear forces agreement which president trump abandoned but the russians have violated and another was working out an agreement about where and when you would deploy troops on exercises making sure they're far from borders. but these are more tactical things and what the russians are really looking to do i get the sense is roll back the clock to at least 1997, maybe to 1990, so they have a spear of influence that is as broad or as close to as broad as what they have before the soviet union collapse. and i'm not sure the united states could help them with that. >> this meeting comes at an interesting point between two speeches from the president about the preservation of democracy. of course on the anniversary of the insurrection from one element talking about the former president, but then tomorrow he's going to be in atlanta to try to promote some movement on protection of voting rights. the president trying to promote democracy in eastern eu

and we will try to understand how serious of the r, wendy sherman, who was had in the american delegation in geneva. you later gave an interview and she said that those urine mold negotiations. that was, it may tend to study trousers physicians. well, it's very eloquent because we came with arab positions that were formally at the dishes in writing months before at the geneva made hang with me smuggling over the this month and from the us failed to study our proposal so as to formulate the, our own position looking schuessler wilson, and instead they chose to follow the or oral explication, suburban moorefield. well, the stage is long over. what was your 2nd question with opportunities? the speakers, mike is also a william lew. while we have them all to faceted military and technical ties with our partners and our elijah really have it, our presence in various regions of the world. and it's something that has to do with narrow bilateral relations with various countries and to forest. hulu proceeds on the basis of global stability and precious ones motion closer. when we discuss further st

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wendy sherman's assessment was that to the meetings on monday about 8 hours worth of talks. with the survey rubric coffin, his delegation were useful. they were frank heard language, they were of straightforward again wendy sherman's language. but she said this wasn't a negotiation. this was really the attempt. she said for the u. s. and for russia to take the measure of each other's concerns. since of the meeting last summer, between president slide amir potent and joe biden, russia's president has claimed victory in defending neighbor kazakstan from what he calls a foreign backed uprising, letting me put in, deployed russian troops to kazakhstan and his promised leaders of other ex soviet states that a moscow led military alliance would protect them to more than $160.00 people were killed during last week's antique government protests. a quoted me and mar, has sentenced the ousted leader, uncensored she to a further for years in jail. so she was on trial for illegally possessing walkie talkies and breaking corona virus restrictions. the sentence is on top of a 2 year jail

. >> deputy secretary of state wendy sherman today said the u.s. sees every indication russian president vladimir putin intends to use military force against ukraine. she made the remarks during a virtual discussion. >> cohosted with the foundation . support ukraine's european perspective. totally understandable ukraine feels it as a hostage. what can europe and the west do to protect ukraine's territorial integrity and also most importantly, ukrainian freedom to choose their own way echo we are honored to welcome wendy sherman, the u.s. deputy secretary and a brilliant diplomat. welcome and welcome under in the name of my fellow board members. the united states played a key role for protecting the principles of international law and for the right of every nation to choose their own way into the future. what can you tell ukrainians and europeans today? what is our way forward? >> thank you so much. i love to say madam president. it is very exciting. someday we'll be able to say that in the united states. he did an extra in our job as president of y

i think there's a lot that can be negotiated about and deputy secretary wendy sherman has a long history of successfully negotiating with the russians. >> but these are all concessions, essentially, to russia, with nothing in return. was there something in 2014 that was possibly a mistake? i mean, should there not be more assistance to the ukrainians, so they can better defend themselves against russia, that has a history of wanting to go into ukraine, affect ukraine, invade ukraine. starve ukraine? >> yes. i mean, historically, they've starved ukraine going back to pre-world war ii, where millions of people have died. >> 1932, 1933. >> yes, exactly. and as you know, these russian hard-liners wrote a letter to the administration. jake sullivan reached out to them. the hard-liners want to give russians javelin missiles -- i mean, the ukrainians javelin missiles and stinger missiles and those kind of things to put off the russians. in the history of u.s./russian relations, they believe the only way to get russia to back down is to be incredibly aggressive. there are folks on the other side

sherman being there doesn't give me much hope for that she was not only involved in the jcpoa but she negotiated with a nuclear dean with the north koreans and the administration did nothing. we shouldn't let the russians dictate our policy. should be and deterrence in europe around around the world. that's how the trump administration thought about this. i hope this administration will think about delivering real deterrence and protecting america the way we need to. thanks, secretary pompeo. >> thank you. >> martha: we're about to hear from the white house on these issues. the big story today, the supreme court shoots down a vax or test mandate. the issue was not under the purview of the federal government. we're going inside the briefing room next. stay with us. cranky-pated: a bad mood related to a sluggish gut. miralax is different. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut. free your gut, and your mood will follow. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible... with rybelsus®. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lo

and off i, sherman was in charge of logistics. the van z conference has become a symbol of bureaucratic re planned mass murder here going is that the issue here was how individual sectors of the administrative st participate in the planning organization and implementation of the matter of european juice. this is an important point for us, but it's also important to highlight that without the participation of society, this mass murder could never have taken place. miles didn't matter. moran gave him conan, private denunciations and laws that excluded jews worked together. at the end of the process, there was to be a relatively harmless sounding re settlement. deprived of their property and citizenship. deportees were left with only one suit case. they had to pay for their own tickets to the labor and extermination camp. a one way ticket to our shreds escaped, and there are no perpetrators without victims and no victims with our perpetrators . of course, we can 1st deerwood what the perpetrators did or did not do. then we can unders

when do sherman has had over hundreds debriefings before the nato meeting after the meeting with the russians about security in europe. so the europeans are happy. other nato members are happy. and so if you haven't had to make up for the deficit, for lack of trust in the trump administration. so i think that people almost feel over breach, but i think that they had to do this in order to reassure them. and, you know, i think there's a dictators dilemma going on here because we put, and we know, it least even in the soviet union, you had to pull up your, you had other people making decisions. but we see that the negotiators must go back physically to moscow to get new instructions there. they don't have the ability to negotiate at all. so they're just given, you know, the red lines they put in and then they have to try to give these speaking points. so i think that this really hampers the russian position. and it also creates a lot of concern for countries in eastern europe because their demand they're asking now is, as you pointed out, jen silverberg, they're asking for reassurance

deputy secretary sherman did not as well. reporter: what would it look like for the rugs to choose the diplomatic path? would they have to withdraw some deployed on the border at ukraine to have that more sustained engagement, or just not invading further? jen: there are 100,000 troops at the border now. returning those traps to the barracks, returning troops to the barracks, conveying to us their intention of doing that, certainly would easy ways to show the de--escalation. as i noted earlier, we see this as a path, as a set of three rounds of conversations. that will occur this week. as you've heard many of our national security officials state, but i will reiterate from here new york talks without -- about europe without europe. no talks about ukraine without ukraine. there's our -- that's our mentality. we are moving forward with the other two rounds of talks and discussion here but the action and the bellicose rhetoric came from the russians and they have the power to ede--escalate. reporter: going the president's trip t

wendy sherman is just getting off a plane. she may have gotten off a plane in the last few hours. we will take stock of where we are, consult, then determine next steps. the russians will have to do the same. all i can tell you is as far as we are concerned, we are ready to move forward on diplomacy and we are ready to go down the other path. both of those, in my view, that question of which path is one that is facing us now. it is not facing us a year from now, it is facing us in the foreseeable future. >> [indiscernible] -- this massive amount of troops , is that something you can live with? will there be sanctions, less sanctions? >> we are trying to first determine and -- deter and prevent a possible massive russian invasion. if we end up in a circumstance, we will -- as it comes but i am not going to get into hypotheticals today. >> at this moment, are we in a position where the next step is reducing the troops on the borders of ukraine? is this the next thing that could happen that could satisfy the u.s. and allies? >> what do you mean? >> after the week we have had, what ar

we cannot assess that from here and ftd secretary sherman did not as well. host: this question is from "usa today," "why ukraine fate matters." here's what they report -- host: robert, east hampton, connecticut, what do you think should happen here? caller: i don't think that we should send troops. the first thing that biden did when he got into office was give the ok for the nordstrom pipeline. that should have been held as a bargaining chip. it makes no sense, sending troops. he's just a buffoon. the important thing is the new covid information that the head of the cdc said yesterday, about 75% of the covid cases, over 75% had comorbidity. host: ok, let's stick to the topic this morning. dan, independent, oregon, democratic caller. caller: thank you. why is no one talking about the treaty that we signed with ukraine along with russia and great britain to protect ukraine if they gave up their nukes. i would like to know why no one wants to talk about it. maybe i'm just too old or something. host: dan, tell us why that is important. caller: what? host: tell

any new members from washington. rosalind jordan has more on how american negotiators reacted wendy sherman's assessment was there to the meetings on monday about 8 hours worth of talks with the survey.

the deputy secretary of state wendy sherman has been very clear that we will not close the door on ukraine's membership in nato. >> ambassador taylor, we will have to leave it there. but thank you so much. now to another part of the former soviet empire. kazakhstan where the authorities allege recent violence that claimed dozens of lives was an organized attack on the state. they blamed the unrest on armed extremists that they say were trained abroad. there is growing evidence a power struggle within kazakhstan's ruling elite may have fueled the violence. >> in a country the size of western europe, there is one question that people are struggling to answer. why? why was kazakhstan rocked by violence? the worst unrest since the fourth communism? outside the morgue, they are collecting bodies. dozens of people are thought to have been killed in the clashes. her brother was missing for a week and she now knows he is dead. so many innocent people suffered because of someone, she says. those that made us cry should be punished. why did they do it? in other words, why did peaceful protests over fu

and one can only hope that this important meeting and important is between wendy sherman and a cough today in geneva. to me it's a belated follow up to the bay biden, $210.00 meeting of june last last year, which said it set a stage for progress and progress. there must be a we must have to identify. both delegations must be willing to identify the ingredients for this political vaccine that is needed. and of course, it's not just geneva genevas, it's one brick in a much larger attempt to re create conditions where we view with each other in a civilized way where countries can really find constructive solutions. that will be booster opportunities. in the finally, the nato, russia council will meet again. there's the o s e meeting and under utilized facility for sure. and hopefully there will be this promised 2nd face to face meeting between the present and present biden. yes, the objective of all that, let me add this. the objective has to be a de escalation of global insecurity. not secure in secure. we have to de escalate and avoid something which neither you neither side wants. an

on this was also quite fixed and that seems to be confirmed by the under secretary, wendy sherman, who following as the discussions all day, i basically said that our washington wouldn't allow anyone to close the doors of any of the nation that might want to join the alliance, so it seems on this particular area there has been no movement to whatsoever. now, there was also questions from the russian minister about the sanctions that have been muted again by the united states. the minister saying, you know what to these sanctions actually achieve who wins from them as a something that they would like to be revisited in the future. and in regards to their sanction is of course, heading back into these discussions, we knew that the u. s. were already threatening potential sanctions when it comes to ukraine than their accusations that russia is preparing an invasion. it's an accusation that the kremlin has denied. and yet again, the russian delegation saying quite clearly, quite firmly that there is no threat of any invasion to ukraine whatsoever. now i just want to talk about some of the

and sherman moscow there. thank you, emily. now let's take a look at some of the other stories making headlines today. who the rebels in yemen have claimed responsibility for a drone strike in abu dhabi that killed 3 people. the united arab emirates vowed reprisals fully attack which targeted an oil refinery. ooh, these are at war with the military coalition in yemen that is backed by the u way. medics in sudan say several protesters were shot dead at demonstrations against military cool leaders. thousands of people turned out for the largest of the protests in the capsule. khartoum mondays rallies come the head of a visit by a u. s. delegation. this week meant to revise efforts to return the country to civilian rule. a prominent mexican photojournalist has been killed outside his home in the northern border city of tijuana. margarita martinez was known for his work covering organized crime and the violence plague city. bordering the us is the 2nd journalists have been murdered in mexico this year. one of the world's deadliest

beginning in geneva, with us. russia talks that deputy secretary of state and foreign minister level wendy sherman against a counterpart. so gay re up call from their enormous teams there. so the starting point will be to russian draft treaty is handed over to the u. s. and nato containing a whole slew of demands that effect quite substantially. the security infrastructure in europe. not surprisingly, the top demands have been completely ruled out, namely, legal guarantees that the russians want. the ukraine will never become a member of nato, nor will countries like georgia and demands limiting the numbers of us troops deployed on european soil. now there may be other areas where they can find forms of agreement to miss out deployment, military exercises within proximity to one another and so on. but that frankly is small for president putin in terms of his main goal, which is ensuring that ukraine remains firmly part of russia's exclusive sphere of influence. now, there are not many people who are expecting anything like an agreement to come out of these talks today. it is being seen as a startl