here's what kevin mccarthy said on january 6th. in an interview with norah o'donnell of cbs news while the capitol was still being attacked. >> you said you spoke with the president. what did the president say he would do? >> i know he had put a tweet out there. i told him he needed to talk to the nation. i told him what was happening right then. i was very clear with the president when i called him, this has to stop, he has to -- he's got to go to the american public and tell them to stop this. >> the president of the united states has a briefing room steps from the oval office. it is -- the cameras are hot 24/7, as you know. why hasn't he walked down and said that now? >> i conveyed to the president what i think is best to do, and i'm hopeful the president will do it. >> have you spoken with his chief of staff? >> i've spoken to the president, i've spoken to other people in there, and the white house as well. >> democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland, a member of the house select committee investigating the january 6th a

attack on the capitol, kevin mccarthy went to florida. he went to meet with donald trump. quote, the select committee does wish to discuss any communications you had with president trump at that time regarding your account of what actually happened on january six. your public statements regarding january six have changed markedly since you met with trump. at that meeting or at any other time, did president trump or his representatives discuss or suggest what you should say publicly during the impeachment trial, if called as a witness, or in any later investigation, about your conversation about him or on january six? here's what kevin mccarthy said on january six, in an interview with norah o'donnell, cbs news, while the capital was still being attacked. >> you said you spoke with the president, what did the president say he would do? >> i don't know. he had put a tweet out of. there i told him to talk to the nation. i told him what was happening right. then i was very clear with the president when i called him. i said to stop. and he sai

we all know that kevin mccarthy had this really important phone call. he's inside the capitol, while it is being ransacked, he gets on the phone with donald trump and says call off your people. is donald trump displeased by what's happening? no. he's angry that kevin mccarthy is upset by what's happening. that's really revealing. the committee made a point of saying, hey, kevin, we know this. the other thing the committee is interested in, whether there was some effort to tamper with kevin mccarthy as a witness, potentially to obstruct justice. the committee is making a statement in that letter to kevin mccarthy. >> you know, we talk about speaking indictments, which are different here, mccarthy is not being indicted, but speaking indictments where a prosecutor lays out what you have. this felt to me like a speaking letter from bennie thompson. this is what we have, this is where we're going, and on that subject of a possible cover-up there, look, i'll read you that sentence, your public statements regarding january 6th have changed markedly since you m

kevin mccarthy talking. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. kevin mccarthy goes on to say this. these facts require immediate actions by president trump. accept his share of responsibility, quell the brewing unrest, and ensure president-elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. then kevin mccarthy said this, tim. what we saw last week was not the american way. neither is the continued rhetoric that joe biden is not the legitimate president. let's be clear, joe biden will be sworn in as president of the united states in one week because he won the election. end quote from kevin mccarthy. has kevin mccarthy said that since? >> don't think so. maybe he said joe biden is president but none of the parts about donald trump being responsible. here's the important thing i would like to add onto that quote, nicolle. that isn't just political rhetoric. a lot of us can imbue the notion that donald trump was responsible for january 6th. of course many many public signs

kevin mccarthy said a few months ago he was willing to testify before the committee. now tonight, after getting that request he changed his mind, said the committee was engaged in an abuse of power and he would not cooperate. the question now is, of course, whether they can compel him through a subpoena. his reversal is not a surprise, because he condemned president trump's actions the night of the incident, but then later when he realized he needed trump's support to become house speaker, he's turned tail and is now trying to make common cause with trump and not provide testimony. it's going to be interesting to see whether or not they can force him to, but there's not much time left for the november elections and if the republicans win control back of the house of representatives, which they're favored to now, they will surely shut the committee down. so the window is narrowing for the committee to get all the relative testimony it is seeking. jon harwood cnn. >>> now kevin mccarthy said he would be willing to testify about his conversations with president trump las

but i can't speak to what kevin mccarthy might have done. it's kind of, you know, i have no idea what he would do. >> former vice president dick cheney was at the capitol earlier today and said this about the state of the republican party, quote, i am deeply disappointed at the failure of many members of my party to recognize the grave nature of the january 6 attacks and the ongoing threat to our nation. do you agree? how do you change the direction of the republican party? how do you get republican officials to stop lying about the election? >> well, i do agree with vice president cheney's remarks today. you know, i've been speaking out about this myself repeatedly over the past year. it bothers me deeply. i think that people in my party who refuse to accept the realities of what happened one year ago today are making a big mistake and putting a loyalty to donald trump ahead of their constitutional oath to defend the constitution and represent their constituents. i think it's not helpful for the republican party or good for the country. i r

happening on capitol hill this week the january 6 committee asked for representative kevin mccarthy's cooperation.he rejected that and then also in usa today they note that the january 6 committee has subpoenaed social media companies as it seeks the role of disinformation in the capital attack on the voting rights legislation let's hear from senator kristen sinema of arizona on the floor yesterday before president biden madehis way to capitol hill . talk to democrats behind closed doors to try to encourage them to change the rules . here's what she hadto say . >> consider this. should we take a partyline v response to every problem we face in this body, every action taken to protect the cherished value that led usto more division ? not lessth. the impact is clear for all to see . the steady escalation of. [bleep] for tat in which each new majority weakens the guardrails of the senate and excludes input from the other party. furthering dissent and anger amongst this body and our constituents at home.and the currents increased use of requiring culture for traditional nominees under pre

mccarthy, were i to say it now, could see kevin mccarthy criticizing me for being partisan. even though i'm just repeating his own words against him. we need republican patriots, not just adam kinzinger and liz cheney, we need republican patriots to stand up for democracy. and we need the conservative pundits who know better to stop belittling what happened on january 6th. i think it was conservative writer kevin williamson who said, of course, the riots that we saw in the cities throughout 2020, of course they were horrific, of course they were criminal, but there is a difference between a coup d'etat and coup dtarget, there is a difference. >> if you read the op-ed out in "the new york timetimes" by jim carter, he says it takes democrats and republicans coming together, but that's not happening. finish this sentence as you described the state of the union. one year later, the state of our union is -- >> teetering. absolutely teetering. and it is not just jimmy carter who has devoted much of his post presidency period to standing up for democracy all over the world and now

they haven't even found kevin mccarthy in contempt. they haven't issued a subpoena much less found him in contempt. they would have to go to the justice department. they would have to, you know, go to the full house, go to the justice department. i mean, look at steve bannon. steve bannon is the only person they have moved against for criminal contempt, and the case against him, which is now a couple months old, is on a slow boat to nowhere. this is -- the idea that in the middle of january you can start pressuring people through the courts for investigation that's supposed to end in the fall, that's just a fantasy. and i think people need to recognize that for better or for worse that if people don't want to cooperate with this committee, there's nothing they can do about it at this point. that's a sad fact but it's true. >> and the delay strategy might be working. we do want to play for you what liz cheney, of course one of the members of the january 6th committee, had to say and get your reaction. have a listen. >> we know that lead

he made a decision, right, this is january 7th kevin mccarthy, january 6th kevin mccarthy was in one place, then he went to mar-a-lago and everything changed, right? that's adam kinzinger's take, everything changed once kevin mccarthy made this decision that, you know -- and in some ways, mitch mcconnell made the same decision, though using a different tactic, right? mcconnell decided not to convict. mccarthy decided not to ostracize. he went back down, he went a step further. but both of them in their own way believing that if they go further, they were dividing their own party, and they made the decision, party unity over perhaps what may be a seditious threat against the united states, right? so look, i think kevin mccarthy's standing becomes more precarious if this gets closer to people who are elected republicans. that's the bottom line. >> i wonder how you run, though, in 2022, with the word "sedition" hanging over the national political conversation when it comes to what happened on january 6th. and i ask that because we got some newlnumbers, and a lot of focus has been on joe

i've not heard back from kevin mccarthy or his team as of yet. but i do think this is something the committee is deliberating. we'll have to find out what their next step will be. >> well, ryan nobles, gloria borger, elie honig, thank you for helping us understand this breaking news. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. >>> might the u.s. be about to turn a covid corner? "the lead" starts right now. covid cases could -- could be peaking in parts of the u.s. which means they could -- could -- be coming down soon. this as top health experts warn every american could end up being exposed to omicron. >>> plus, the january 6th committee just invited a new ghost their party. they're asking the top house republican kevin mccarthy if he feels like voluntarily cooperating. >>> and match point for novak djokovic. a decision on the tennis star's fate in the australian open could come at any moment. >>> hello and welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin in our health lead. a new warning from the top health experts. today dr. anthony fauci, a

the january 6th select committee tonight's asking to speak with house minority leader kevin mccarthy -- a man who spoke to trump on the day of the insurrection. well, the man who once claimed he had nothing to hide cooperate fully? plus it is being called a game changer for treating people with covid but will it be months before more antiviral pills are delivered? we will tell you why dr. sanjay gupta reports. >>> and any moment now, australia could decide whether novak djokovic will be allowed to stay in the country and compete in the australian open. let's go out front. and good evening, i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, the january 6th select committee raising the stakes. asking the house minority leader to meet with them. offering up two specific dates for his testimony, and here is their letter tonight to the house minority leader kevin mccarthy. they write, quote, we request -- we write to request your voluntary cooperation on a range of critical topics, including your conversations with president trump. so, it's about five and a quarter pages here and the committee lays out

and your speaker kevin mccarthy. he's already made clear, he's going to take retribution if you become speaker. he, said in the last few days, he's going to kick off democratic congressman like adam schiff and others who angered him off of the committee. so this is a really toxic moment on the hill where members are going at each other. and the parties are in full-throated contact with each other. and where we head will be determined by the election in the fall. >> okay, but then peter, should the presidents message to democratic members and congress help me, help you? they need his help in holding on to power. and he needs their help in getting any more of his legislative agenda done. >> well, you can certainly argue that they have been helped him by blocking his build back better social program. that has been, you know, a singular failure of this administration. >> and voting rights -- >> he had everything packed into this one program. essentially a whole new deal. a whole society in one piece of legislation. and i

[ applause ] >> my kevin from the start kevin mccarthy proved to be an object that exists solely for orange jewelous cesar to play with. we all remember how kevin had a staffer take the time to pick out just the right color star bursts to put in a jar so he could give it to trump as a present. throughout last five years, he's done just about everything to keep the florida man and his maga happy with the hope he could one day become a real boy just like that trained dog that occasionally pees in the house, mccarthy had an accident on january 6th and in the days following talking about the phone calls with the dear leader. >> i say he has responsibility. he told me personally he does have some responsibility. i think a lot of people do. >> of course on that same day, trump had a very different take. >> what is your role in what happened at the capitol? is your personal responsibility? >> if you read my speech and many people have done it and i've seen it both in the papers and in the media on television, it's been analyzed and people thought that what i said was totally appropriate. >>

there's bad blood between kevin mccarthy and swalwell and schiff. i think that's part of it. there might be some local dynamics, but again, i think kevin mccarthy's disagreement with those two is really largely over policy disagreements, not over necessarily bad conduct. >> well, i appreciate your time, as always, congressman dent. good to see you. >> thank you, ana. >>> and thank you for joining me. i'll be back tomorrow at 1:00 eastern. in the meantime, join me on twitter, @anacabrera. the news continues next with alisyn and victor. have a great one. better skin from your body wash? try olay body wash with skincare super ingredient collagen! olay body wash hydrates to improve skin 3x better, from dry and dull to firm and radiant. with olay body, i feel fearless in my skin. ♪ ♪ 80% get genetically meaningful health info from their 23andme dna reports. ♪ ♪ 80%. that's 8 out of 10 people who could get something enlightening. something empowering. something that could change everything. info that could give you greater control of your own health. and it's right there, i

plus, a capitol hill staffer who at the time worked for kevin mccarthy. he'll join us to talk about his experience and why he is now working for mccarthy's republican nemesis congresswoman liz cheney. of course we'll take a look at how this nation heals if it can. if we can from this unprecedented and dark time in america. we'll start today with cnn's alex marquardt and a closer look at what we've learned about the awful day in terms of the specifics of the maga terrorist attack on the capitol. we want to warn you especially parents there are scenes of graphic violence and explicit language. >> reporter: for weeks, president donald trump hyped the rally on january 6th. be there, he tweeted. it will be wild. that day his family and allies whipped up the crowd. >> have some back bone. show some fight. let's have trial by combat. >> then trump proceeded to call out his own vice president. >> mike pence is going to have to come through for us. and if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country. >> reporter: he lied about the election and urged his foll

tucker speak, kevin mccarthy is supposed to act. >> kevin mccarthy's position makes him one of the most powerful republicans in the country, but we all know he's not the most powerful conservative in the country and that's someone like tucker carlson. someone who wants to be speaker of the house in the future, really following those voices which gives us a with trump. that's wit carlson. that's frankly pushing the mccar thiz and mcconnells of the world >> i think historians dana call it the misty may-treanor rule meaning it's all about the base. >> it is all about the base. there's the base and then there's the absolutely undemocratic conspiracy theory qanon people in your caucus, and there used to be a line, a line between people who want smaller government, low taxes, are socially conservative which is an ideology, and people like emgroene who are conspiracy theorists and the fact that republican leader is kowtowing to the conspiracy theorists, that's what is new and that is why the democrats felt that they had to act to remove them from committees. it's because kevin mccarthy didn't

kevin mccarthy has been casting dispersions on this committee since it was formed. he defiantly pulled all of the members he appointed to the committee when nancy pelosi did not agree to two of his picks. so it is a very adversarial way opposing the formation of the commission, and he got the entire republican caucus to vote against it and it died in the senate, and now with the house select committee, at every turn, he has found a way to get in the way of the investigation, and continues today. what is most interesting with the remarks today, jon, and we should not overlook it today, but when pressed about why he would not be willing to talk about what he knows about january 6th is that he has nothing to offer the committee to help them in crafting any legislation. well, what does that mean? he does have information that perhaps might be of aid to them if they were to find some sort of criminal activity in this investigation, and now he was making that point as it relates to that he believes it is not the committee's job to look into the criminal activities around

as far as the information after seeking from kevin mccarthy if you look at the letter there they list out about 20 public statements that kevin mccarthy said, and said we want to bring you in and talk to you about this statement made to politico, this statement you made to the wall street journal. they already have all the evidence, it's sitting in their letter, they can use it right as as to adam schiff in what he's doing, it's a little rich for us to start taking advice from the quarterback of the fake russian hoax for the past four years. this is political theater. >> it is bad theater. jason, your take? >>sean: jackson, and want to axes when thing first. ask you first. why, when the committee chairman, bennie thompson was asked if nancy pelosi is off limits, he acknowledged she is off limits. okay. and nancy tipped off jim jordan and jim banks and put on the two biggest trump haters and the political republican party. >> the person in charge of security for a separate but equal branch of government, the legislative branch, the person in charge of security at the house of represent

why did kevin mccarthy change his tune so dramatically? did someone from trump world get in his ear. did they tell him to change his story? did they tell him to stop speaking out about their private interactions? those are the type of questions that the committee wants to ask kevin mccarthy. but he is refusing to cooperate with the investigation. he says it is just political and that he has nothing relevant to offer. so we'll see whether the committee actually does subpoena for that information. >> that sound there, kevin mccarthy saying in so many words, one, trump admitted some responsibility and, two, he wanted a bipartisan commission. two things he's since gone back on. >> and completely different story from him yesterday saying he was more focused on security, right, and how that insurrection could happen. incredible reporting there. thank you so much. >>> still to come, more on the seditious conspiracy charges for the oath keepers' role in the january 6th attack. will this lead to even bigger targets in the doj's investigation? >> ho

i've been very public, but i wouldn't hide from anything. >> reporter: no response yet from kevin mccarthy to the committee's request, but in a reminder that others close to trump are cooperating with the committee, we learned that kayleigh mcenany today did answer questions from the committee investigators. david? >> jonathan karl on this again tonight. jon, thank you. >>> meanwhile, here in new york city tonight, a major setback for britain's prince andrew. a federal judge here issuing a blow, refusing to dismiss a lawsuit claiming the prince sexually assaulted an american woman when she was 17. all of this, of course, the continuing fallout from jeffrey epstein. abc's james longman on what happens next now. >> reporter: tonight, a major legal setback for prince andrew. a federal judge in new york has now allowed virginia roberts giuffre to go forward with her civil sex abuse case against him. the judge denying a motion by the prince's lawyers to have it thrown out. their claim was largely based on language in a 2009 settlement between giuffre and convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein,

donald trump can roll over kevin mccarthy. mccarthy will have debased himself like a busload of people in washington, dc, had before him. maybe i should say a stadium full of people thinking they are going to figure out a way to curry favor and he betrays every last person. mccarthy is doing this for no reason. >> they think there's an upside but there isn't. at the center of all of this is donald trump. it doesn't take a whole lot to get on the wrong side of a conversation. just ask governor desantis who was blind sided with a smack to the vaccination status by the president calling out all politicians who refuse to acknowledge their vaccination status this coming from donald trump. >> wow. >> you're saying, where did it come from? the fact that desantis is making those moves to become the nominee of the party and he needs to cut that off. if mccarthy thinks donald trump is going to embrace his potential speakership in a way that is going to be long term and consistent, he's fooling himself. the question then becomes what doe

kevin mccarthy told the committee he will not cooperate with this investigation with th predetermined outcome. and it was only another excuse to smear donald trump and has nothing to do with protecting the capital from future attacks. he couldn't be more right. take a look. >> you babbled the creation of an outside commission from the start. he also told the select committee. >> that's not true. >> why should the public not conclude that, you are trying t hide something here. with the facts were getting now. >> great question, i hope everything gets corrected at cnn . >> can you answer the question. >> after january 6, who was the first person to offer a bipartisan commission? was it me? i will help you. the answer is yes. >> i called for it to, but it had to be bipartisan not by committee full of trump impeachment haters and never trumper's grade we also need a committee to look into the riot and the summer of 2020. we can't have this kind of violence in this country. we are better than that. as we reported two days before january 6, donald trump as required by law authorized up t 20

we knew that we introduce that evidence the conversation that you have with kevin mccarthy which kevin mccarthy was pleading for help and telling the president, you have to stop your supporters. and he said, well, kevin, they're obviously more upset with the election results than you are. that was introduced before the senate during the impeachment trial. but there should be no surprise to anyone. donald trump incited this insurrection, he wanted it to happen, he will want the electoral contests to stop. and he sat in the office and watch disputes alike -- as 150 officers were hurt, five people dying as a result of that day, and the president of the united states, despite the fact that his own family members and others were pleading with him to intervene, he sat back and watched it. because what was happening was exactly what he wanted to have been. he wanted to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power and stay in office and not have the election results certified. and how much planning when into it was astonishing. there were memos and power points. this wasn't just a crowd of enthusias

but it doesn't stop there because speaking of potentially damning evidence enter kevin mccarthy. there's pretty interesting audio that further proves why the january 6th committee wants the house minority leader to voluntarily testify. a request that we know he repeatedly has refused to comply with. yesterday he seemed pretty emboldened and today looking a little bit more like a cat that ate the canary so allow me to paint the picture this friday evening because here he is yesterday feigning amnesia about a conversation he had with trump five days after an attack on the capitol. >> did you tell house republicans on the january 11th phone call that president trump told you he agreed that he bore some responsibility for january 6th as chairman thompson's letter indicates? >> i'm not sure what call you're talking about. >> really? now, when that kind of thing would happen in my courtroom, well, this is the moment that we would show, let's call it a receipt, so receipt number one, america. and this is close to my heart as a radio talk show host myself i admit, a radio interview he di

house minority leader kevin mccarthy a year ago this week. take a listen. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. >> he directly blamed the mob rioters on donald trump a year ago, and this week, he doesn't even mention trump's name when talking about the january 6th attack. >> yeah, i mean, it shouldn't surprise anyone that in the moment, you know, it was very clear what had happened and how it happened. you know, the -- connecting the dots was very obvious and, of course, in the following months and over the course of investigations we have more details, but it wasn't unclear what happened that day. what changed is politics. you know, kevin mccarthy and the republican party decided they could not hang this on donald trump and still keep his affection and his voters. and so they had to go along with his lies about what happened that day and again what happened on election day. it's perverse and perverted, but, you know

we now know after liz cheney said that yesterday, that kevin mccarthy was pleading with donald trump to go on television and tell the people who he sent up to the capitol to leave the capital. to stop committing the crimes they were committing, to stop trying to kill police officers. and because kevin mccarthy is leader of the most perverse version of the republican party that has ever existed, kevin mccarthy is now ashamed of having told donald trump on january 6th to, for once, do the right thing. former federal prosecutor daniel goldman served as counsel for the house in donald trump's first impeachment tweeted quote, firsthand testimony equals admissible evidence in court. anonymous sources to media, inadmissible. the committee is not preparing a case but same applies. this is to show what trump was doing every minute of the day. yesterday, chairman benny thompson described the 187 minutes when donald trump was doing nothing. >> well, it's about 187 minutes, we have now determined he was in the white house, we have determined a number of people made attempts to contact him throug

late today the january 6th committee asked the top house republican and close trump ally, kevin mccarthy, for a voluntary interview. the house committee's six-page letter to mccarthy asks for details about his communications with trump during and after the riot. the lawmakers also want to know about mccarthy's contact with white house chief of staff mark meadows in the days that led up to january 6th. >>> he's made significant public statements about what occurred on january 6th and we'd to hear from him. >> he gave a statement on the floor about president trump bearing some responsibility for what occurred. >> if he doesn't cooperate with the voluntary request, would you subpoena him? >> well, let me say we'll consider it. >>> well, tonight mccarthy issued his own statement saying he will not comply with the committee. quote, i have concluded not to participate with the select committee's abuse of power that stains this institution today and will harm it going forward." but here's the thing, this past may mccarthy was singing a very different tune. >> would you be willing to testify abo

>> well, i think kevin mccarthy had it right in that statement. there was no question that the former president bears a lot of responsibility for what happened that day. we all saw what happened. he was running his mouth for weeks after the election that it was stolen, and then he sicked a violent mob the day of. basically told them we're going to fight like hell and sick the mob on the capitol. yes, donald trump bears a lot of responsibility for what happened on january 6th, no ifs, ands or buts, and i think what's happened in the minds of many people, that event is behind us. they have moved on and many are trying to whitewash what happened that day or rewrite the narrative that it really wasn't quite as bad as it appeared, we shouldn't believe our eyes and ears. i think that's a big part of what's happened, time has intervened and many people feel it was not quite as a consequential event as it was at the time. and it was a consequential event. >> and by the way, i'm not talking about if people who lose in 2024 are sore losers like we're seeing

kevin mccarthy said a few months ago he would be willing to testify. now he says he won't. of course, in the aftermath of the insurrection he condemned donald trump's actions on january 6th. he has since turned tail after going down and visiting mar-a-lago and making common cause with president trump whose support he needs to become house speaker if republicans win the house in november. >> this is someone who clearly has information. he talked to the white house and to the president leading up to january 6 on their efforts to overturn the election results. he talked with the president by public reporting on january 6th. and he was concerned about the safety of the capitol after january 6th. all of those are key bits of information that we feel are important. >> the question now is whether the committee will be able to compel his testimony with a subpoena. challenge, of course is that that will take an extended legal battle that requires months. and there's only a few months left for this committee to engage in its investigation before we have the elections in november, whi

lauren mentioned kevin mccarthy and his letter at the top of the program. do you think he had a sense here in that he had a chance to have a real bipartisan committee. he blew it up. liz cheney and adam kinzinger joined it, the committee surprised a lot of people by methodically going about its work and having its case and you don't have a distraction of some trump ally blowing it up because kevin mccarthy walked away. >> john, i think mccarthy a year ago made a calculated decision that it was a political imperative for him to stick with donald trump on this and not go his own way and he stuck by that for better or for worse, both politically and substanttively. i think what the committee is doing now is important on two different tracks. what we're seeing in terms of testimony about different people including the president's children, that's important to him because it will put on the record into the timeline so much of what we've already seen in the reporting. axios has reported, the "new york times," "the washington post," a lot of people have timelines

kevin mccarthy is not going to be reelected. this thing is not going to get anything but more extreme. we liked to say the republican party was the law and order party. maybe that wasn't as true as we thought it was. the idea that you wouldn't investigate an attack on american democracy, the only people that would be for that are the people who are worried they're going to get caught. this is like asking tony soprano would you like an investigation into your gang. he'll probably say no. this is a giant criminal conspiracy that we learn more about every day. >> stuart, do you think -- he's already said he's not cooperating. do you think the select committee should subpoena him? >> oh, good lord, yes, they ought to subpoena all of these people and they ought to put them in jail if they don't respond to the subpoenas, absolutely. what is more important than getting to the heart of a conspiracy to end the american experiment? we're so close to this, we don't imagine how history is going to look at this. this is the world's oldest fu

kevin mccarthy told me directly that he wasn't going to sign it. i said, good, this is not a brief that we ought to be associated with. and a few hours later he signed it. >> the brief went out without kevin mccarthy's name, and the next day claiming that he was inadvertently left off, and he signed on to it. that was bad. he initially didn't want to sign it and then realized what the pressure was. what you see there are people that sign on to something they don't believe to avoid political pressure. it's leaders that are afraid of their base and not leading their base. >> the supreme court declined to even hear the suit. >> a majority of house republicans, like two-thirds of them, literally saying i don't want any of the votes from pennsylvania, i don't want any of them to count, based on this lie. i mean, i'll just say for me personally, as a pennsylvanian, they were trying to disenfranchise my mom and dad based on lies. >> i don't know how everyone doesn't take that personally. they try to not have your votes counted. they did not want your vote

his call to kevin mccarthy, where he seemed to be more concerned about election fraud than you are, that would lead to anecdotal evidence to that. but if the president knew violence was going to happen on january 6 and went ahead with his speech where he said we will march down to the capitol, we have to fight, those kinds of words have now a different meaning. the lawyers in the justice department will have to figure out where that leads culpability, again taking into account we still have more information that we could hopefully get with archive records. jacqueline: do you feel like the committee has the fullest picture possible of the 187 minutes that trump was paralyzed by indecision, the time from when violence at the capitol started to when he put out his first tweet? rep. kinzinger: we may never get that full picture. there may be moments when he was by himself. it could be a lot of moments where he was by himself. we could get a pretty good idea of who communicated to him, an order he needed to give, or what did he communicate back? every person we interviewed that may be able to

what changed for kevin mccarthy from january 13th to april 25th? what made kevin mccarthy take a 180-degree flip in his views on a single thing that donald trump was doing on january 6th? what might it have to do with private conversations with the ex-president? that is where the committee appears to be turning its attention. asking questions. as the committee now mulls whether or not to serve a subpoena to the sitting house minority leader. in the last hour, the committee issued new subpoenas to four social media companies for records about how the spread of misinformation and disinformation and rise in extremism contributed to the attack on the capitol. that is where we begin this hour with something our favorite reporters and friends, but we start with congresswoman zoe lofgren of california. also joining us, former top state department official rick stengel and msnbc national security analyst frank figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi. and the host of "the bureau" podcast. congresswoman, i want to start with t

just like kevin mccarthy. this is what he said exactly one year ago tonight. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. these facts require immediate action of president trump. accept his share of responsibility, quell the brewing unrest and ensure president-elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. >> we play that often because it's important to remind you, the folks out there, the duality, that's a kind way of putting it of kevin mccarthy and others what they said at the time and what they're saying now. because kevin mccarthy who knew one year ago who was responsible for the attack at the capitol now refusing to cooperate with the january 6th committee. hmm. hmm. why wouldn't you cooperate? i have nothing to hide, but i'm not cooperating. refusing to tell them what he knows about what happened on january 6th and who he knows is responsible, who he said is responsible. so we ha

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kevin mccarthy exercised zero leadership. in fact, keep in mind it was two days prior i think he forcefully said he would object to the election even though he initially said he wouldn't, even though he signed things because he was pressured to and he knew it was wrong. i look at that. it's disappointing and it's disappointing to see those who have crawled back into the bunker. adam and liz are taking a whole bunch of shots and we don't want to take those shots. >> congressman kinzinger, it's jonathan lemire. good morning, today on the morning of the anniversary of january 6th. the next steps, in particular talks and reporting there may be prime time hearings in the weeks ahead, and, also, would you, would the committee, subpoena sitting members of congress? >> all good questions. we do intend to do some hearings in prime time and i think what's very important the first kind of six months of committee activity was if you think of what you're seeing as the old iceberg analogy, you will see a little bit, the mark meadows stuff,

and kevin mccarthy who is minority leader in the house. one of those two will be in charge. but right now the republicans, all this in spite of the 1/6 event. >> let's talk about the confluence of things that have happened to bring us to this moment, in terms of the build back better bill, all the back and forth with joe manchin, the fact that we're still looking at this january 6 committee. biden's approval rate, how much damage have all these things done individually? or is it the collective that's really potentially going to hurt democrats? >> you've got the list there in front of you. there's a whole series. and on top of all that we have a convergence of other things, first of all, redistricting and we're going to have a long list of elections. and with redistricting, many of those seats will change because of the population shift. the democratic hold in california is substantial, much different than nationwide. on the other hand, so many things can happen. people in office, some of them will retire. some of them will be redistricted out of their seats and will have to

. >>> the top republican in the house of representatives, the minority leader kevin mccarthy, is now refusing to comply with the january 6th committee's investigation of the insurrection he's a pretty significant witness. leader mccarthy spoke to the then-president on the phone as the attack unfolded on the capitol. but today he insisted there wasn't much to that call >> my conversation was very short, advising the president of what was happening here. there is nothing that i can provide the january 6th committee for legislation of their moving forward there is nothing in that realm it is pure politics of what they are playing. >> well, they'd like to determine that for themselves. that said, the next step for the january 6th committee could be a subpoena nbc's sahil kapur now. are subpoenas on the table at all from this committee, and if so, are they ready to consider criminal attempt referrals if those subpoenas are rejected >> reporter: well, the second question here is key because if they issue subpoenas, they'd better be prepared to enforce them chairman thompson has said subpoe

it's been reported kevin mccarthy was done being nice. the house republican leader cast off his typically sunny demeanor in a december 8 melling of the -- meeting of the g.o.p. conference to deliver a stern warning to the most raucous members, quit trying to hold the vote for speaker over my head and said, quote, if any of you come to me and tell me i'm not voting for you unless you do something, i'll do exactly the opposite even if i agree with you. that from representative tom cole of oklahoma who was there at the time. the second republican member told cnn mccarthy punctuated his statement with, i mean it. from flint michigan, democratic caller, david, good morning, your top news story of the week? caller: good morning, greta, my top news story is biden's speech. i think he done a great job. i would like to say mask guidance said about blacks being too dumb. i don't believe he was a black guy but that's his personal business. i don't think he was black but think he was a white guy. anyway, greta, i think that if the republicans would j

i know kevin mccarthy. the idea he's going to say i'm going to come into power and all i'm going to do is retaliate and attack democrats and not help the american people is really shocking and disappointing. >> well, i mean to say the least. and you mention that. i remember seeing steve scalise just now on the screen as well. remember he was unfortunately the victim of a violent attack shot at a congressional baseball game. and there was talk then about the idea of division, the idea why political rhetoric can go awry and be fatal or just deadly at least in the attempt. but you mention the idea of the quest for power, and that's where i think people need to understand what's going on here, van. because it's not about the idea of the gop simply regaining the majority. what you describe is the idea of -- the idea of the concession and going along to be able to get power. but then the question is once you have the power, so say he becomes the leader and the house speaker, well, what do you plan to do with it?

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our top story this hour, the highest ranked republican in the house, minority leader kevin mccarthy, rejecting a request from the january 6th committee to voluntarily cooperate and provide information about his communications with then president trump and others during and after the insurrection. mccarthy calling the committee's investigation, quote, illegitimate. that's a big reversal since last may. take a listen. >> would you be willing to testify about your conversation with donald trump on january 6th if you were asked by an outside commission -- >> sure. next question. >> you would? >> change now. another story we're following this morning, tennis star novak djokovic officially the number one seed in the australian open men's singles draw, will he get to play? questions about whether he broke the rules everyone else has to follow. and president biden set to speak next hour to announce a new federal plan to deploy military medical teams to hospitals that are grappling with the omicron surge. >> let's get right to our top story this hour, house minority leader kevin mccarthy refu