trump and supporter of donald trump who publicly believes donald trump has never done anything wrong, that like jim jordan, that that person, who had conversations with donald trump on january 6 would not want to go to the committee and say to the committee under oath, here are all the good things donald trump said on january 6. here is all the correct things. here is all the things the president said that are exactly what you would want the president to say in that situation. so maybe jim jordan doesn't have anything good to see about donald trump to the committee if he is under oath. >> well, i think it's pretty clear he is hiding something. he says he doesn't have anything to hide, but he is hiding something. and you know what? jim jordan is not wrong when he says it's not about him. it's actually not about him. it's about our democracy. it's about our constitution, and it's about the need to get to the bottom of a president who tried to overthrow an election. so i think he does have something to hide. it's clear that if he doesn't want toe testify before the committee, he is hidi

biden and donald trump. joe biden is beak and we need people who will keep america strong. host: who do you think that might be in 2024? who would you like to see? caller: that is a good question. at this point right now, i am trying to educate myself and trying to look at the candidates, but i heard earlier that you had a guest talking about governor desantis. i am not thrilled about him, but i am very much in advocate for someone who will stand up and do the right thing for america, instead of trying to divide us. you had a collar earlier you mentioned the gop has no policy. the gop has a policy. they have a list of policies that they are trying to implement. for example, state legislators are trying to suppress voters. all these laws are trying to suppress the vote. gerrymandering, favoring the gop , and finally, all this hate that has-beens viewed from republic -- has been spewed from republicans. somebody made a comment about the red states and blue states being separated. that is un-american. that is n

trump, ivanka trump and donald trump jr. in connection with investigation into the valuation of properties owned or controlled by donald j. trump the trump organization or any matter which the attorney general deems pertinent. the judge's order specifies when the trump family or attorney general's office must file argument on enforcement. the family is trying to block the subpoenas. in a statement the office said as her investigation into financial dealing of the trump organization continues, attorney general james is seeking interviews under oath of donald trump, donald trump jr. and ivanka trump. despite numerous attempts to delay the investigation, we're confident that questions will be answered and truth uncovered because no one is above the law. joining our discussion, tim o'brien, author of "trump nation" and former acting solicitor general and msnbc legal contributor. when you read the argument sequence dealing with these subpoenas, what is your sense of enforceability of the subpoenas is headed? >> these subpoenas ar

donald trump sent me there. you have the video of donald trump sending them there. telling them to go up to the capitol and to fight like hell and lying to them and saying that he was going to walk up there with them. can that be linked up in some criminal action against the president? >> yes, absolutely. and i think the key fact, adding to everything you just said, is after, while these riots are going on, what does trump do? he sits on his hands for 187 minutes. and so i think both for trump and for the rioters themselves, i don't think there's any first amendment defense with due respect to what was just said a moment ago. i mean, there is -- the first amendment does not protect that kind of conduct. and to me the most heart breaking thing, lawrence, is that a year ago tonight we had republicans and democrats both condemning not just the rioters but condemning donald trump or at least as an action, indeed inaction as well. i remember some commentators said, oh, this will be whitewashed and forgotten. i said, no, this is a turning point. this is when people stared

donald trump is the boss until he's not. there is a competitive core below him that hates each other, that's constantly scheming, that has one eye on trump's health, on his fitness, wondering what he's going to do. there will be a lot of people quickly out of the gates. but nothing will happen until trump makes his decision. he's got the party as a hostage. they're willful in the sense that most of them aren't hostages, they're accomplices. but in totality, it's what holds the whole country hostage as we wait to see what donald trump does heading into 2024. but as you look right now, democrats have a lot of work to do and have to change the terrain they're fighting on immediately to be in a position to prevail in these 2022 midterms. because the trajectory they're on, the lane that they're in is headed towards defeat. and to see a republican speaker in the constitutional line of succession which will set off two years of chaos, nihilism and sabotage of the public good, the public interest, and the biden presidency. >> steve

trump, pero veamos dÓnde estaba el expresidente donald trump. >> el expresidente donald trump tenÍa una conferencia presentada en pan beach, pero la cancelÓ, el siguiente evento pÚblico serÁ en arizona el prÓximo dÍa 15 y allÍ va a expander mucho >> ya se sabe que la mayorÍa de los estadounidenses considera que el asalto al capitolio por parte de los seguidores del expresidente donald trump fue un acto violento, el 68% de los encuestados seÑalÓ que los acontecimientos fueron un claro ejemplo de violencia polÍtica y un 32% asegura que sÓlo se tratÓ de un incidente aislado, si la democracia de estados unidos estÁ en la actualidad en peligro, un 66% dijo que estÁ amenazada, mientras que un 33% respondiÓ que la democracia en nuestro paÍs no corre ningÚn riesgo. la encuesta entrevistÓ un poco mÁs de 2000 personas entre el 27 y 30 de diciembre del aÑo pasado. >> padres que recibieran cheque de ayuda por sus hijos, fue el servicio de impuesto y anunciÓ el envÍo de cartas donde informa que algunos contribuyentes recibieron mÁs dinero del que les correspondÍa y como n

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he went to meet with donald trump. quote, the select committee does wish to discuss any communications you had with president trump at that time regarding your account of what actually happened on january six. your public statements regarding january six have changed markedly since you met with trump. at that meeting or at any other time, did president trump or his representatives discuss or suggest what you should say publicly during the impeachment trial, if called as a witness, or in any later investigation, about your conversation about him or on january six? here's what kevin mccarthy said on january six, in an interview with norah o'donnell, cbs news, while the capital was still being attacked. >> you said you spoke with the president, what did the president say he would do? >> i don't know. he had put a tweet out of. there i told him to talk to the nation. i told him what was happening right. then i was very clear with the president when i called him. i said to stop. and he said go to the american public and tel

by a never named donald trump. and steven spielberg never showed jaws the show. and the what made it one of the most guessed terrifying movies of all time. and joe biden runs at risk of enlarging this boogie man that's out there by not, but by constantly referring to him. this man behind the curtain. um and they, there's a wrist there. he's walking a very fine line. you can't ignore the elephant in the room. no pun, attendance is republicans there. i commer mascots the elephant. but when you address it, you make him more powerful, more strong, remembered donald trump is banned from social media. he's very quiet. we can't hear him right now. um, and so how to address him, how to talk about him is a really risky move for joe biden. he the president joe biden runs the risk of, of bringing himself down to the level of donald trump, who he himself says as a defeated president. and what the see, the days and weeks go on as we had towards the mid terms in november. how the democrats are going to play this. because donald

and there's a lot, donald trump, in his po. and today in his speech, joe biden, there was no, there was no concession to the other side. there was no healing till he went for donald trump again and again without actually using his name. yes, that's what he tries to do. he really tries to avoid mentioning a him by name. he just refers to him as the former president, as he tries not to give him any more power. but indeed, as william just pointed out, phil, he really vent after donald trump and for a reason he might only have like one actually less than a year left in which he has the majority because of the upcoming mid terms. and this was a clear call for action also to the senate to pass through or writing a voting rights or legislation to use these last months of the majority of the democrats to really make everything which can kind of secure the american democracy. because, i mean, i think he and, and as did vice a president carmella harris made it crystal clear. this is a crucial moment in american history. this is, everythi

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trump, donald trump jr. and ivanka trump to comply with our investigation into the trump organization's financial dealings. i want to welcome back daniel goldman, former united states district attorney for the district of new. also served during the first trump impeachment. i do not know if you had a chance daniel to go through the reporting on this. it does seem that the attorney general of new york state is making the case that donald trump, donald trump jr., and ivanka trump provided misleading financial representations to institutions that the former president quote, had authority over a wide swath of conduct by the trump organization, involving misstatements to counter parties, including financial institutions and the internal revenue service. would you make of this, if you've had a chance to look at it, what is new and important? >> what is new is some details about what her civil investigation relates to. we've known there has been an ongoing civil investigation into the trump organization in the inte

biden and donald trump. joe biden is beak and we need people who will keep america strong. host: who do you think that might be in 2024? who would you like to see? caller: that is a good question. at this point right now, i am trying to educate myself and trying to look at the candidates, but i heard earlier that you had a guest talking about governor desantis. i am not thrilled about him, but i am very much in advocate for someone who will stand up and do the right thing for america, instead of trying to divide us. you had a collar earlier you mentioned the gop has no policy. the gop has a policy. they have a list of policies that they are trying to implement. for example, state legislators are trying to suppress voters. all these laws are trying to suppress the vote. gerrymandering, favoring the gop , and finally, all this hate that has-beens viewed from republic -- has been spewed from republicans. somebody made a comment about the red states and blue states being separated. that is un-american. that is n

he still did not mention donald trump by his name terms of that support for donald trump, it is still very much there if you believe some of the poles. 60% of republicans it shows still believe the election was rigged and back donald trump, thatjoe biden is the illegitimate president. it was interesting thatjoe biden mentioned he won the election fairly. if you look at this day of commemorating those who died in the riots and the police who helped as well and paying tribute to the capitol police force, there were really only two republicans in the house for the minutes of silence. only two and that gives a real sense of where the republican party is at at the moment. they still find donald trump incredibly invaluable because we have elections coming up and they want and need his support. we will be coming back to washington later in the programme but thank you. let's get some of the day's other news: thousands of people have taken to the streets in the sudanese capital, khartoum, to protest against military rule. security services have fired teargas at demonstrators near the president

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he's been endorsed by donald trump in the battle against the party establishment. make no mistake there is a civil war going on right now in the republican party for the direction of the republican party. i believe the america first, the president trump movement, that we have the vast majority of the country and the republican party. you don't think some people would have looked at the events of january the 6th and thought, "i don't want to be a part of that?" initially, a lot of people did and a lot of those folks now regret that. the mob was fed lies. they were provoked by the president and other powerful people. and in the days after the storming of the capitol, senior republicans condemned the attack, but when it came to action, the vast majority of republicans voted not to impeach and convict donald trump for incitement. he is not guilty as charged with the articles of impeachment. for all the condemnation he's received in the last year over his involvement in those violent events, donald trump still enjoys the support of millions of americans, and in his part

donald trump was going to donald trump. that meant holding on to power. the constitution be dammed. >> daniel golden, as you read the information today with prosecutor's eye, what do you see in the flow of the texts? >> i see a couple of things. i think what they are starting to do now they obtained the documents is starting to slowly drip, drip them out so that the public can get a sense of what the documentary evidence is. i don't think they expect a ton of cooperation from sean hannity which is why they want to lay it out in the letter. it puts more pressure on him now that we know he was in the inner circle, talking to mark meadows. clearly having a good understanding of what was planned for january 6, what the discussions were and what the resistance was from the white house council's office. i think we should expect to continue to see more of the documentary evidence. what we don't know is what the testimony from the witnesses has been. that will likely come out in public hearings that my former boss, adam schiff said would begin in as little as wee

i know we know a lot about what donald trump did. he had a bunch of leakers and attention seekers and on fox news, they were heroes so it was hard to keep the coupy stuff secret, but we know that the coup isn't under investigation. what do you think about that? >> i'd agree with that. i'd accept both ends of his analysis with respect to what joyce vance said earlier. i think this speech was a form of get off my back. i got this. also a form of gun shy. you talk about a justice department that's been under a lot of pressure politically over the past few years certainly in the face of not one but two impeachments and all the information that was born out of those efforts and i think that there's a level of cautiousness here that is hard to bear for citizens looking at this saying can you please do something or give me an indication of somebody's going to pay a price here. but that's not how our system works. so i'm willing to give the justice department a little bit more runway. because you're talking about bringing heavy level charges

then there were two republicans for donald trump, who are here. also putting their side of their argument about january putting their side of their argument aboutjanuary the 6th. putting their side of their argument about january the 6th. so, the ceremonial elements have largely been dominated by democrats. they've had prayer visuals and moments of silence, they've had recollections and reminiscences of the fear they felt here last year. the centrepiece of it all was that great big long speech by presidentjoe biden, where he really went after donald trump for the first time in the last year. a lot of people have been hoping for that on the democratic side, that he would be more robust, more forthright in blaming donald trump forthright in blaming donald trump for what happened onjanuary the for what happened on january the 6th, and today, he did that. he referred to him as the former president more than a dozen times and calling out what he called his lies and pressing home this idea that he was defeated, that he lost the election. they are all li

making sure that people realize donald trump is the way he operate is donald trump and how he's done it for a long time. he does not think about democracy in the same way that you outline or a lot of people who are in the building right behind us think about it. we do have to walk and figure out how to chew gum at the same time. the white house is trying to figure out what's the messaging around inflation and how do we talk about getting back to build back better bill and how do you talk about the infrastructure bill. we are thinking about how important democracy is. it's a hard balance. it's not something that's animating voters right now. i honestly find it shocking. i think about it quite a bit. >> there is been a lesson for i think a lot of us over the past five years. the things that donald trump did day in and day out that were so shocking and ill-liberal that led to january 6th. we found a lot of voters didn't care about it. okay, whatever happened in d.c. they were concerned of the economy and the pandemic and getting their kids back to school and virginia concerned of inflat

trump, donald trump jr. and ivanka trump provided misleading financial representations to institutions at the former president, quote, had ultimate authority over a wide swath of conduct by the trump organization involving misstatements to counter parties, including financial institutions and the internal revenue service. what do you make of this if you had a chance to look at it? what is new in here and important? >> what's new is some details about what her civil investigation relates to. we've known there has been an ongoing civil investigation into the trump organization in the attorney general's office, which is separate and parallel to the criminal investigation that the attorney general is involved with as well as the manhattan d.a.'s office, who is leading that investigation. and it was certainly around the trump organization's finances. but now what we are learning from this filing and that press release tonight is that the allegations are that donald trump, donald trump jr. and ivanka trump were ve

donald trump is still puppeteer in the republican party. he is handpicking candidates that he wants to win in primaries. the litmus test is the 2020 election still for him. do you believe it was rigged and stolen from donald trump? if you believe that, then you're in his good graces and maybe he'll support you. and that support will bring you money, and that support will bring you voters. and so he's still running things a year later. it looked in the immediate aftermath, when lindsey graham went on the floor and said enough is enough, it looked like, well, maybe things would shift. but they haven't shismfted. in fact, donald trump has consolidated his support among fervent republicans, and he runs the party a year later, and that is another reason that i think joe biden felt that he had to come out and give this direct speech, challenging the belief that the election was stolen. >> gloria, david, susan, tim, thank you all very much. >>> join jake tapper, anderson cooper for an unprecedented gathering of police, lawmakers, and leaders on th

he hates donald trump. he thinks he's a cancer on the party but knows he can't continue to be the majority leader in the republican party without the support of trumpist voters, so he tries to thread the needle. the same thing is true on voting rights. does he want to change the electoral count act? yes. is that a good idea? yes. has he been leading at the forefront of blocking any kind of further voting rights legislation of getting through the united states senate that would address the things that are going on in the trumpist republican party in states around the country? yes. he's done both those things. and so i think people are right. the only way to properly analyze mcconnell all the time is he's an institutionalist when it serves his purposes. he's a trumpist enabler when it serves his purposes. ultimately mcconnell is always that angel dancing on the head of the pin. he would love donald trump and the trumpists to go away but he's recognizing they're not going away and if he's going to maintain pow

like donald trump could say. he said, among other things, white people are not allowed to get the coronavirus vaccine in america. we will discuss that later in this hour. today, president joe biden focused some of his martin luther king they remarks. the 100 members of the united states senate are scheduled to begin debate tomorrow on the voting rights legislation. >> where do we stand? who's side are we on? well we stand against voter suppression, yes or no? will we stand against election subversion? yes or no? will we stand up for america, where everyone is guaranteed the full protection and the full promise of this nation? yes or no? i know where i stand. and it's time for every elected official in america to make it clear where they stand. >> today, vice president kamala harris media virtual appearance at the baptist church in atlanta where the reverend martin luther king served as pastor, and we're satinder warnock served. they spoke to the congregation gathered at the church, and she described the new votin

his name was donald trump. so, you know, i make some of my democratic colleagues and constituents irritated because they say, you need to go just as dirty as the republicans have gone. you know what? i think there are constitutional order is such that we don't want to go just as dirty as donald trump would be willing to go. >> do you think, though, that you have seen enough evidence that if he wasn't donald trump, and he wasn't in another party, that firsthand witness accounts of a deadly insurrection playing out in the tv and no action taken would at least represent enough in terms of what's in the public view to be examining that? >> well, let me answer that question both from a knowledgeable standpoint and a completely unknowledgeable standpoint. from a knowledgeable standpoint, i'm in politics, right? had hillary clinton or al gore or barack obama done 2% of the things that donald trump did, he would have been crucified or she would have been crucified and i know that because benghazi, in which hillary clin

either looking like donald trump clones, or standing and profile, you know, kind of boyles of donald trump. wow. see, let me tell you this night. i know that you, you take offense to this, but you are very good friend of joe mansion. and i think, i think if he changed parties in ran for ran for president, he would do very well. you know, my mother is a big magic fan. let's just put it that way. i know you just need to have some leadership. some of the lead, who will bring the country together? that being said, i think a lot of republicans are, are looking through 2 lenses. one is, how did you handle coven? and i think that that really does disqualify president trump, and i think a disqualifies my parents. i like both those guys. i supported both of them. but the, the, the mishandling of cove, it is a real blot on both the presidencies of president trump. and i've jo, bye, and so i think if you look at something like that, iran, the santa is really kind of stands out and says, listen, you know exactly the right way. he, he, he did all the things that a republican would want to be hand

donald trump cares. and i've got evidence this week, as soon as this story broke that we were meeting, guess who doksed my phone number, the people close to donald trump in maga circles and my phone was melting down with messages from his supporters who said miles, how dare 30 people counteract the 80 million of us. what that tells me is that they are spooked. donald trump is spooked. he knows it, and it's why he hasn't said anything this week about us meeting behind the scenes. he is worried. he's worriedabout the contact these people can have on his political plans, and that's why we're rolling forward. >> i'm glad you're rolling forward, but there are some hills to climb as you make that roll. based on what i'm going to share with the new results from the gallop poll, it shows that overall slightly more u.s. adults reported leaning democrat in 2021. okay, that's for the whole year. however, look at the fourth quarter. that saw a dramatic shift in party preference with republicans having a five-point a

the attorney general is synging to enforce subpoenas against donald trump, donald trump jr. and ivanka trump for their testimony. eric trump has already given an under oath deposition in the case in which he refused to answer questions, citing his fifth amendment rights, over 500 times. in the filing released close to midnight last night the attorney general says, "since 2017 donald trump jr. has had authority over numerous financial statements containing misleading asset valuations. donald trump jr. should be compelled to testify before the office of the attorney general. until january 2017 ms. ivanka trump was a primary contact for the trump organization's largest lender, deutsche bank, in connection with this work ms. trump caused misleading financial statements to be submitted to deutsche bank and the federal government. ivanka trump should be compelled to testify before the office of the attorney general." in a press release the attorney general's office noted that they have "not yet reached a final decision regarding whether this evidence merits legal action." the trum

he's the author of, it was all a lie, how the republican party became donald trump. kurt, your piece, which is an astonishing survey of the history of this kind of mass death, death cults, makes the point that there are actually people out there saying that death is better, death is better than having to deal with masks or vaccines, public health protocols. >> yes. for instance, there is an extraordinary piece in the right-wing magazine, the federalist, that was published last fall, written by its executive editor, which is a right around the time i was beginning to look at this. when i decided, i made a joke, here or there, in the past about ritual sacrifice and trumpism being a cult. but i started thinking, wait, is this just a figure of speech? is this just rhetoric? and i started studying the history of it. anyhow, one thing you find as you look at where this takes place it's in places where the state governments and the highly supernatural religion are completely intertwined. so this federalist magazine piece was literally, why you should die christians. it's a

c. president biden describes donald trump is the 1st u. s. president to refuse to accept the will of the american people also on the program doesn't scale this protest. as in kazakhstan, battle security forces in the worst and rest for 30 years, president appeals for help on former soviet states led by russia send in troops. ah, i'm feel gail, welcome to the program. u. s. president joe biden has marked the 1st anniversary of the storming of the u. s. little one. a violent mob of trump supporters attempted to stop the certification of the 2020 election results and biden's. when in his speech, the president sought to lay out the truth of what happened that day. a year on many trumps porters continued to spread a false narratives about the attack. and many republican lawmakers still refused to acknowledge that president by the one the election. he said that american democracy was under threats as long as that discord remained. he also had a scathing assessment of his predecessor, who he said, set the state for the attack by continuously sewi

president biden claims a web of lies by donald trump. he values a web of lies by donald trump. he: values power over principle because he sees his own interests as more important that his countries interests and america's interest. fin interests and america's interest. on the house floor speaker nancy pelosi held a moment of silent for those who died republicans are expected to deliver their own january six response soon. security forces in keswick of clear the square of the days of anti—government protests. and the world men's tennis number one know that djokovic finds himself confined to an immigration hotel in melbourne after running into trouble with his visa for the australian open. let's turn to the united states, exactly one year on from the storming of congress, president biden has condemned his predecessor, donald trump, for the role he played that day. the democrats have held several events marking the anniversary of the january sixth riot, including a minute's silence in the us house of representative . here's president biden speaking from inside the capitol build

donald trump started this all. he started it by lying about the election even before it happened, and he kept -- he was the one who basically told them to go up on capitol hill. and there are any number of theories he could be, you know, potentially held criminally liable for this stuff. i mean, harry litman, who you just had on, talked about 18 usc 1215-2, which is the perfect fit. it talks about, you know, criminalizes -- it says if somebody should go to jail for not more than 20 years if they corruptly object instruct, influence or impede any official proceeding, that close a proceeding of congress, and the judges in this district and the district of columbia have held that official proceeding of congress includes the january 6th counting of electoral voits for the joint session. the question is, did he try to obstruct, influence, conspire, obstruct or influence or impede that proceeding? yes. did he do it corruptly. let us count the ways. he lied his ass for two months about the election. that seems pretty corr

>> donald trump estaba hablando ese dÍa. reportera: grabaciÓn y veo si los —— grabaste vÍdeos y los montaste a las redes sociales,. no puedes parar a 1 millÓn nosotros, tÚ dijiste eso? >> es correcto, no fue con la intenciÓn de parar lo que sucedÍa, reportera: pero la respondes a policÍa, novas a parar a 1 millÓn nosotros. >> en ningÚn momento dijo el policÍa que no podÍa pasar, era un hecho lo que estaba diciendo. reportera: ¿quÉ que los —— quieres que la gente sepa? >> yo no fui violento. reportera: todas esas personas, ahÍ mismo dijeron, vamos a entrar? >> ahÍ mismo. reportera: ¿si puedes regresar el tiempo lo volverÍas a hacer? >> no, absolutamente no, estoy arrepentido porque la manera que me estÁ tratando ahora es que quiero ser claro, por ahora lo que me hacen es injusto, quieren ponerme obstrucciÓn de justicia que lo mÁximo es 20 aÑos. reportera: esto le costÓ a todos los oyentes $500,000,000. >> creÍa que era menos, cuÁnto cuesta eso a los migrantes que entran ilegalmente al paÍs. re

laura: what about former president donald trump? is he still as influential with the global populist right? is he still seen as an influential figure? lyse: it is interesting how we talk now, how we talk about our global political system. we use talk about superpowers. then we used to talk about great powers, but there has been a noticeable shift inhe last few years where we tend to talk about not just a battle between countries, but a battle between systems. it is what joe biden talked about. he had this democracy summit, a battle between democracy and autocracy. there is discussion of strongman, and those strongmen have to decide what to do, whether it is modi in india, bolsonaro in brazil, their great friend in the white house, what to do when he lost power. among the allies of the united states, there was a palpable sigh of relief, among nato allies, among european states, when president biden won the election, that they would be able to try to revive this transatlantic alliance even though they knew that, mindful of what happen

but this definitely was a clear and very outspoken a tank on donald trump, whose name he actually never mentioned. he mentioned he just refer to them as the former president. right. so what then, what's the point of this between we know it was to, to, to mark the year. okay. so that year was mark, but that, that the speech was so directly attacking that the lives as he call them it, it, it was almost, i don't know is almost triumphant. what i one jew lost a deal with it. it's what was that what, what was he trying to do beyond mark that year? well 1st of all, phil, i think, and he really gave up hope that is that it is possible to convince are those who firmly stand with trump in outside the republican kind of lawmakers, a but also probably regarding those republican lawmakers who still kind of support donald trump and talk about that the elections were stolen and he, i think he also really wants to push for forward or like all the reforms which are needed to protect a democracy here when it comes to warding rights. because this is a huge problem in this country. as we see, gerrymanderi

who they cared about was donald trump, and without us, they didn't think they could get trump. i remember laughing to my lawyer when i did the plea agreement with them in the d.c. case, that there were all kinds of stories that donald trump was going down now. paul manafort was going to the unon him. i said, look, make sure they understand i plan on telling the truth and when i tell the truth not only is donald trump not going down, but their whole case is going to blow up. and that's what happened. and that's why -- afterwards. >> sean: let me ask you about this. was it clear to you that they wanted you to lie about -- they didn't care if you lied about donald trump. that their target was donald trump, and that you basically, they wanted you to lie about him. now, when you are talking about, and remember, they wanted you to die in jail. they wanted, what 25, years. they wanted you dead in jail. now you're being basically offered your freedom if you say what they want -- what they want to hear. but you didn't do it. why? why didn't you do it? >> that's a strong incentive. >> th

well, donald trump... exactly. donald trump's role in january 6 last year is being investigated currently by a house of representatives committee, and we know that they are exploring all angles, including trump's role. now, if there is sufficient evidence of criminal activity by the president and his key associates, i guess we can assume that will be acted upon by the department ofjustice led by the attorney general. well, the attorney general, merrick garland, is a very good man, a friend of mine, a former student of mine, and i am hoping that he will do exactly what you say, but i'm not confident. the reason i'm not confident is that there is very little reason to believe that anyone other than the foot soldiers, the people who actually stormed the capitol is being investigated. the fact is that the investigation ought to extend to the plotters, the planners, the funders, the people at the top — and it is quite possible that the committee that you're describing, two of whose members are former students of mine

ivanka and donald trump jr. are under investigation for the identical thing, overstating and understating values to make money on a hotel condo development. so it's not like this is a new thing of the trump family to be confused of. >> i think that was trump soho, correct me if i'm wrong, carol, and i think you're correct to say michael cohen is the one who brought this up, testified to congress that trump did this, one of the major revelations that came out of his testimony. daniel goldman, what more question about what the january 6th committee is doing, since now you have so much experience in washington as well as general prosecutor experience, the committee wants to get testimony from a number of trump allies including some of his lawyers right now. rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, sidney powell. how complicated does it get when they're trying to speak to donald trump's lawyers in a matter such as this? >> as complicated as it can possibly be. you have the normal issues of executive privilege, which is in the co

it seems to be donald trump all the time-— all the time. on this question of former president _ all the time. on this question of former president trump's - former president trump's accountability, his responsibility for what happened that day, the department ofjustice are charged more than 700 of the rioters with various crimes. here on capitol hill, the january the 6th committee is investigating what happened and delete republican in it, liz cheney, has hinted maybe that could be a criminal referral to the department ofjustice for former president trump because of his role in obstructing the official certification of the election. do you see that as a possibility? i you see that as a possibility? i don't but there's several things to unpack. i think leader mccarthy and senator pelosi did greater service to the country by not putting aside partisan differences to have a truly bipartisan commission. you have liz cheney and another republican from illinois but neither of them are ranking republicans, they don't have jurisdiction. has won a f

but it didn't make any difference because donald trump was going to be donald trump. and that man holding on to power. >> david goldman, as you read this information today with the prosecutors i, what do you see in the flow of those text? >> i see a couple of things. i think they are starting to do now that they have obtained these documents is starting to slowly drip them out. so the public can get a sense of what the documentary evidence is. i don't think that they expect a ton of cooperation from sean hannity which is why they want to lay it all out in the letter. it puts a lot more pressure on him now that we all know that he was in the inner circle as claire mccaskill so rightly said. talking to mark meadows and having a good understanding of what was planned for january six. also what the discussions were, what the resistance was from the white house counsel's office. so, i think that we should expect to continue to see more and more of the documentary evidence. what we don't know is what the testimony from the witnesses have been. and that will likely come out

donald trump is a criminal. like many criminals when he sees a crime, he will find a way to exploit it further and further. he saw an opportunity on january 6th, and so now he's not just going to rely on maybe a pliable vice president or more members of congress maybe supporting decertifying the election but he will conduct and do it so the michigan assembly would certify wayne county or something like that could happen in georgia or invalidate early ballots for whatever reason. there are a lot of ways this corrupt human being can conduct his silent coup before we get to 2025. >> all right, congressman gallego, thank you very much. his recent book entitled "they called us lucky." " and david drucker, thank you for your reporting. we appreciate you coming on this friday morning. still ahead on "morning joe," labor secretary marty walsh joins us after the supreme court struck down the administration's vaccine mandate for private businesses. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. you're watching "morni

donald trump, donald trump, donald trump is not the way for democratic candidates to proceed. so they're gong have to kind of play it by ear. but go back to that scene last night, to the amazing dick cheney? >> i know. >> the democrats warmly embracing dick cheney? that's something i never thought i would see in my lifetime. that tells you how much the politics have changed in a very, very short time. inconceivable six years ago. >> no, you're absolutely right. ruth, we like to call this friday's segment lessons learned. could there be another ought carat in waiting with donald trump? >> oh, absolutely. i've got my eye on ron desantis. when personalities come on the scene like donald trump and they do similar things from mussolini onward, they act like an earthquake on the system. they shake everything up, and they show the weaknesses and exploit the weaknesses. for example, the electoral college where you give a great amount of power to a small number of people. if you think like an autocrat, that's very dangerous. he's showing people and othering the weaknesses of our system

i thought that was a miss by donald trump and his administration. that should have been one of the trop priorities infrastructure. but even something like that has divide it had country almost down the middle where a program that literally would help rebuild falling bridges and streets that are in disrepair and creating a 21st century infrastructure beyond that, for some reason we can't seem to get there and i think intolerance is what's driving this. it's what drove i think what happened on january 6 and will continue to drive a wedge between americans until we get to what i call the chokepoint. when we get to the chokepoint, i think we then start to move forward. i'm not sure unfortunately we've reached that point. host: you've mentioned that a couple times intolerance. when did you start to see this as a social issue with political imications? guest: think about schools and college campuses. if you're a conservative and on a college campus you keep your head low. there's a sense that you have a bit of a scarlett letter on your forehead for holdin

it's a direct attack on donald trump. if you're saying this is a violent coup or a violent act, you're saying that was pushed by dear leader. you can't attack dear leader. dear leader is perfect. that's what's happening right here. this all points back to the cult of personality that's surrounding donald trump. it's being reenforced through fox news, their particular blogs, telegraph list and what's happening more and more is because the decisions are being made in primary, the republican party is becoming more extreme because moderates are just levering the republican party and not participating in primaries. this thing is going to keep evolving. the way you stop this, the way we have seen it pushed back in arizona is you have to start giving them losses and proof to the point where extremists can't win and hopefully there's some type of fixing. the problem you have here is donald trump controls the message and the money of the republican party. it's going to be very difficult for them to do that until donald trump is de

trump, ivanka trump and donald trump jr. about what she says she has evidence of fraud by the trump organization, overinflalting and then deflating the valve its assets. the january 6th committee getting access to 700 pages and white house records including handwritten records from the chief of staff about january 6th and the days before it and now the fulton county prosecutor saying i need special powers to investigate potential criminal behavior in donald trump's effort to pressure georgia republicans to somehow help him steal the election. wow. >> it's a lot and things are adding up and compiling every day. almost every hour there's a new development but keep in mind these are very separate investigations as elliott was saying. and this georgia probe is specifically interesting because, a, there's the audio tape that we've heard again and again from the phone call by the former president and looking into georgia, but the question i have, john, is how much is this going to bleed into present day politics because georgia is

donald trump lied. he pushed it back in march and april, he knew he was going to lose the election and he kept on pushing it. 93 u.s. senators said donald trump is lying. . and his own attorney general had profane words for donald trump. his own president disagreed with it. you had governors and legislatures in every swing state saying the same thing. you had over 60 federal courts saying the same thing. you had the trump supreme court which his imprint was on that and saying the same thing. michael beschloss, i believe this country is far more resilient than many people i hear speaking not only on this channel but on other channels who believe we somehow won't get through this. i know we will. with that said yesterday was a dark day if you compare it to what happened after september 11th where there was an attack against the united states and against the world's trade center. you had democrats singing "god bless americ," we unite as one. they were suffering still through ptsd from that dreadful day. th