together found that their fears and doubts were not so strong as their faith, and in national shrines like gettysburg, we memorialize the men of both sides who gave of themselves unreservedly for what they believed to be right. remember and be proud. >> we've never really had a racial reckoning. the problem started first immediately after the war. if you want north and south to get together and get along again, you don't talk about causes and consequences. you talk about the mutual valor on that battlefield. >> why doesn't that confederacy, which only lasted four years, just go away? the racial reasons are paramount, but it also has to do with this idea that the confederacy was a dissent. man, they went to the limit and they deserved respect for all that courage. they claimed after they've lost that they're only reacting to the overreach of centralized federal power, and there is a kind of admiration for that still in our culture. ♪♪ >> he settled this farm almost 200 years ago. and i felt like i followed in his footsteps. my wife raised the children. all i ever did was work. of course now federa
trump gave when he returned home from walter reed, infamously, he compares that to abraham lincoln's gettysburg address. >> just come on. >> no, it is a remarkable -- >> see, again -- >> sycophants. >> it is frightening. >> it is pathetic at a level that -- >> i think the obvious, logical extension is that he is going to incur tens of thousands of dollars in legal costs to protect someone who obviously doesn't want -- you know, would never protect him if it is the reverse. he already dumped on his book, calling it fake news. it shows how one-sided these relationships can be. >> it's one way. david ignatius, i thought there was a tell in that interview that meadows had. the thing they're the most scared about are the phone records. who called whom? >> yeah. >> that's going to reveal the tick-tock of who donald trump is calling, who is furiously calling them to try to get, you know, donald trump to actually call out the national guard and save the lives of people inside the capitol. but, for him, for meadows, he goes, oh, well, when they did what -- by the way, everybody does it in every lawsuit.
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