he had no use -- we never really knew if allen went to a college or not. he said he had but we never really were sure of that. but he certainly dislike graduates of prestigious universities. and none had ever been hired. i was hired when allen was on vacation. >> [laughs] >> -- . i sort of a joke to him. he wouldn't talk to me. and i would say, good morning, mr. hathaway, he would never say a word back. professionally i didn't have to deal with him very much because i was the low end of the totem pole, the newest quarter, doing obituaries, working nights. but i also worked saturdays and news day didn't publish on sundays, and so on saturday afternoon there was only one person in the city room and it was me. this particular news day had been crusading against the federal aviation agency. and there was a -- 1246 acres. the air force no longer needed it as a base. and therefore it was going to be turned over to the county and the question was, what was the county going to do with it? the federal aviation agency wanted to turn it into a private airport so that

thank you, for that introduction, allen. i thought we could start, going back, you know, you took us back to the present day talking about the moments going on with monuments. i thought why don't we go back to the beginning your book and dig more into robert e. lee's early life, civil war service and start to loop in our audience questions as we go. so if you have a question for allen please put those in the q&a and we'll make sure to get to as many as we can. we definitely have enthusiastic audiences which is wonderful. if we're not able to get to your question, we apologize in advance. so allen, i wanted to go back to the beginning, and you lay out in your book that in your opinion, one can't understand a man like robert e. lee without first understanding the relationship that he had to his father who was, as you mentioned, a revolutionary war hero, but also didn't have very successful post-revolutionary war career in a lot of ways and ended up deserting his family. so i want you to just lay out a little bit for us, talk a

thank you for the introduction, allen. going back, you took us up to the present day, about the present moments we are having with monuments. i thought, why don't we go back to the beginning of your book and dig in more into robert e. lee's early life. and we will start to work in our audience questions as we go. and the q&a, we can share and get to as many of those as we can. and we have enthusiastic audiences, which is wonderful. if we are not able to get to all of the questions, we apologize in advance. allen, i wanted to go back to the beginning. and you lay out in your book that one can understand a man like robert e. lee, one cannot understand him without understanding the relationship he had with his father. you mention the revolutionary war. but also he didn't have a successful post revolutionary war in a lot of ways. and ended up deserting his family. so lay that out a bit for us. talk about lease relationship with his father. and then what became his relationship with his father's absence. >> harry lee, or to be

allen, i wanted to go back to the beginning. you layout in your book in your opinion, like robert lee, understanding the relationship he had with his father, you mentioned revolutionary war but also post revolutionary war cleared in a lot of ways and his family, lay out a little bit for us, talk about his relationship with his father and his father's absence. >> to be technical, harry lee or henry lee the first third, a leaf from the cadet branch of the family. he was from the leaves of lisa peÑa. what difference does that make? the major dominant strain of the family, the lee family around thomas lee and descended from richard lee, the first immigrant but sometimes called richard the immigrant. in the 1640s and 50s, thomas lee is the lee who built stratford hall, the place where robert was born. they built a small empire for the leaves on the northern coverage enough. henry lee was from a western part of family, that's why i call cadet branch of the family. harry quest if nothing else, ambitious. intelligent, he was skillful,

i was hired when allen was on vacation as sort of a joke to him. when he came back he would not talk to me. he would walk past us and i would say hello mr. hathaway or good morning mr. hathaway and he would never say a word back. professionally i did not have to do with them very much because i was the low end of the totem pole i was reviewing obituaries but i also worked saturday in newsday they do not publish on sunday so saturday afternoon there was only one person in the sitting room and that was me in this particular newsday was crusading by the federal aviation agency there was an airport and nassau county with 1246 agents. the good needed as a base. therefore who will be turned over to the county and the question what was the county going to do with it. the federal aviation wanted to turn it into a private airport so the executives of the corporations on long island could fly in and out on their private planes. newsday wanted it to be a community college. i was not involved in this, one saturday when i was there in the middle of the afternoo

robert wagner, here you see robert kennedy as father rose and wife ethel and the hoover family, and allen and their wives market and margaret, and with saint bartholomew and personal friend of the hoover family conducted the funeral service. saint bartholomew reopened to the public at 5:00 pm through 9:00 pm and there you see lady rector. the people lined up around the block at the church which is located at 50 1 and park avenue in new york city, mister hoover's casket. between the 21st, and 20 second, some 22,000 people paid their respects at saint bartholomew's church, the church was open from 9:00 to 3:00 on the 20 second and 3 and 5 and then 9. the next morning, october 2, '02, family and friends arrived at the church, the us military academy along with the company of cadets from west point were on hand and hundreds watched from across the street. giant service honor guard lined the church steps. at the top of the steps leading from the church on park avenue, the band played ruffles and flourishes and hail to the chief. when the band began the hymn lord, thou hast been our dwelling pl

and before you get to meet this incredible panel, i want to turn it over to doctor allen guelzo, and to engage in the conversation by putting your questions into the question box. dr. allen guelzo, welcome. >> thank you so much angela and what a pleasure to be able to participate on this program on the american presidency and what we have a president and the history person, i will schedule some background for how we got this particular office of government that recall of the president of the united states predict and it is the privilege of the united states, the most familiar face in the world. in the dominance, very few people of the nation's founding expected whatever be the case after all this was a revolution advanced in a single executor pretty by the executive in the case of the revolution being the king of england. and americans have had long and difficult times of our governmental executives for the years preceding it for 1776, the governors of the universe colonies, for instance as far back as the 17th century, and in america, to have a very difficult task, the council commi

i didn't want the job, and finally, andy kept telling me, administrator allen woods said, we want him to be the head of the latin america bureau, and i said, well, you know, i really want him to do this job. and we kept fighting with him, and it didn't work. and andy said, we'll move you later. take the job as the head of ofda. i said i don't even know anything about this. why are you putting me in this job? after two weeks on the job, i said i don't want to move. this is the best job i have ever had, and the most interesting. i want to stay here. and it actually changed my career track and all that. anyway, we now know disaster assistance response, those were created in 1989 under the bush presidency. we didn't have an operation center before. we do now. >> talk for a moment about d.a.r.t.s. what they do and why they're so important, why they were so innovative? >> yes, before we might send one or two people out, but there was no -- there were no job descriptions. there was no operations planning. there was no assessments that were done in an organized systematic way. we did a field

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eastern on the presidency, historian allen gelzo and other scholars examine a fundamental question about whether the united states needs a president. at 8:00 p.m. eastern on lectures in history, southern utah university professor laura june davis talks about confederate guerilla attacks on u.s. waterways during the civil war and describes pro-confederate sympathizers who sabotaged union vessels. exploring the american story, watch american history tv, saturdays on c-span2. and find the full schedule on your program guide or watch online anytime at c-span.org/history. >>> at least six presidents recorded conversations while in also. hear many of those conversations on c-span's new podcast, presidential recordings. >> season one focuses on the presidency of lyndon johnson. you'll hear about the civil rights act, the presidential campaign, the gulf of tonkin incident, the march on selma, and the war in vietnam. not everyone knew they were being recorded. >> certainly, johnson's secretaries knew because they were tasked with transcribing many of those conversations. in fact, they were the on

josh allen friedman came over to us. had some great talent. i'm excited about that executive order because it puts us in the league for a lot of things that i think, i hope, i intend will help us make a real difference and cybersecurity. i don't think anybody can look at that and say the status quo is acceptable. it is not. so in addition to everything in there we are working with congress on reforming his money, federal information security modernization act. we are working on transforming einstein and continuous diagnostic mitigation program which is incredibly important as well. more to come, but it's an exciting space and a lot of great priorities in the coming years. >> yeah, 100%. and the tectonic shifts that are happening in the world law -- the cloud, the commercial side of this policy, the practice, bridge it's so transformative. and to see it sort of in clear detail with respect to the eo i think is another healthy indicator that is really is a collaborative between public and private. good stuff. so finally, you've talked a lot abou

allen, where are you at? >> that is a hard call to some degree. the japanese amphibious capability was very small. they certainly could've, i suppose put a regiment ashore and bellows beach or someplace up in the north shore. -- at bellows beach. it's an interesting test. most of the hawaii national guard was made up of -- he was made up of japanese american organizations. i think what would've mustard sufficient ground when they had to repel because of tags with american forces. you do have a very strained and volatile civilian home front environment that would make any defends difficult. i don't think my recollection of the japanese really fought seriously. >> they didn't recognize it was a zero sum game. they didn't have a sea left. >> one thing about tanks, if you look at the golf and luzon, the americans had 2 battalions of m 3 stewards there. that is armored vehicles. in terms of specific armored combat, it is a crap ton of armor. yet we can utilize it at all. mccarthy frankly had no idea how to do combined arms. my pushback, we got tanks in

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simply search for danielle allen or mark bowerline at the top of the page. ♪ ♪ >>> american history tv, exploring the people and events that tell the american story. at 2:00 p.m. eastern on the presidency, the ronald reagan presidential library and museum marks its 30th anniversary. speakers include former secretary of state condoleezza rice, archivist of the united states david fario, and next year marks the 200th birth of frederick homestead. saturday at 3:15 eastern, coverage of a conference, including his designs for college campuses, such as stanford. that's american history tv saturdays on c-span2, and find a full schedule of your program guide or watch online at any time at c-span.org/history. >>> starting now, on american history tv, it's the international conference on world war ii, hosted by the national world war ii museum in new orleans. today, you'll see several programs about the attack on pearl harbor. first up, a discussion on the lead-up to the bombing of pearl harbor from the american perspective. >> we're going to ask our first panel to take the stage. and i can talk

eastern on the presidency, historian allen gelso, and other scholars examine the fundamental question whether the united states needs a president. and 8:00 p.m. eastern on lectures in history. southern utah university professor lauren davis talks about guerilla attacks on waterways in the civil what and describes proconfederate synthesizers who sabotaged vessels. >> get cspan on the go. access top highlights. listen to cspan radio and discover new pod casts all for free. >> i wanted to be introducing david powell because of course i'm a big fan of his work. so i wanted to jump on that opportunity. but also because we have our character here. leonidas polk. david powell a graduate with a ba in history. published numerous articles in various magazines. for many years his focus has been on the epic battle of chick mog ga and nationally recognized for his tours of that important battlefield. 1238d david and his wife ann live and work in the northwest suburbs of chicago, illinois. everybody, david powell. >> first of all lets clear one thing. it is not leonidas. the family tradition is leo

and allen and their wives margaret and margaret. and they're six grandchildren. the reverend terrence j. thinly, director of saint barr the bartholomew's, conducted the service. st. bartholomew's we opened the public. and there you see the director. i and the people lined up around the block, located at 51st and park avenue in new york city, waiting to view mr. hoover's flag covered casket. between the 21st and 22nd, some 22,000 people paid their respects at st. bartholomew's church. and the church was open from nine to three on the 22nd. and then three to five. and then nine. the next morning, october 22nd, the family and friends arrived at the church, the u.s. military academy band, along with cadets from west point, were on hand. and hundreds of people watched from across the street. the joint service honor cordon lined the steps, the steps leading from park avenue, the band played ruffles and flourishes and then hail to the chief. when the him began, lord, thou has been our dwelling place, the pallbearers took the casket and placed in the waiting hearse. the

eastern on the presidency, historian allen gelzo and other scholars explore a fundamental question about whether the united states needs a president. and then at 8:00 p.m. eastern on lectures in history southern utah professor laura june davis talks about confederate guerilla attacks and describes pro-confederate sympathizers who sabotage union vessels. watch saturdays on c-span 2 and find a full schedule on your program guide or watch anytime on c-span.org/history. >> i wanted to be introducing david powell, because i'm of course a big fan of his work. so i wanted to jump on the opportunity to do that but also we have our favorite here. i can't wait to hear what's going to be said here today. he's a graduate of the virginia military institute in 1983 with a b.a. in history. he's published numerous articles in various magazines and more than 15 historical simulations of different battles. he is nationally recognized for his tours on that important battlefield and for publishing six books on the campaign including the campaign trilogy completed 2016. more recently dave has published a boo

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first of all, danielle allen, political philosopher, expert on democracy innovation, public health, equity, justice reform, education, she directs the democratic knowledge project and her books include our declaration, a reading of the declaration of independence in the sense of equality, american tragedy and talking to strangers and guiding to citizenship and she was one of the principal investigators the educating for american democracy project. and we have mark bauerlein, an editor at first 14 magazine, his books include literary criticism, the authority, necrophilia, a race riot and the dumbest generation of the digital age, how young americans jeopardize our future, don't trust anyone under 30. he has written several articles critical of it. we start with a 5-minute overview of their roadmap, then get into the debate. please add those questions to the q and a. over to you. >> appreciate you hosting this important conversation. educating for american democracy roadmap since early march is the progress of several years of work by a network of 300 scholars, educators, families that parti

eastern on the presidency, historian allen gelso, and other scholars examine the fundamental question whether the united states needs a president. and 8:00 p.m. eastern on lectures in history. southern utah university professor lauren davis talks about guerilla attacks on waterways in the civil what and describes proconfederate synthesizers who sabotaged

eastern on the presidency, historian allen guelzo and other scholars examine a fundamental question about whether the united states needs a president. and then at 8:00 p.m. eastern on lectures in history, southern utah university professor laura june davis talks about confederate guerilla attacks on u.s.

. >> there's a long standing tradition that there's a link that goes back to allen that there's a link between the great awakening and the american revolution. i think a lot of the reasons for that is the religious leaders in the awakening movement are overwhelmingly loyal to the dominant denominations. when you get down to an individual level, i'm sure you would find plenty of individuals who found a connection there. they were understanding the choices that were in front of them. drew on a particular ideology of faith. >> i'm not a religious scholar. that clarifies more female a great deal and now i can change my lectures. >> you're absolutely smart enough to not see it. it's the whole whitfield story but he gets is swoo the question of how we see whitfield's relationship to the empire and understanding why whitfield was committed to the british empire. he have. he dies before the revolution. he defers to him resentfully and publicly. he tries to draw as much attention to it as he can but he does put his odes of -- when he was ordained and his position in the church of england ahead

it's my pleasure to welcome you all an audience and to welcome our guest, allen guelzo. he is discussing his book,'robert e. lee: a life',

david light, dorothy goldman, patricia, jean, margot, read, and allen. i would like to think all of them, but i would also like to thank the trustees who join us via live stream this morning. our chair, pam, our vice chair elect, suzanne, and trustees. many thanks to all of you. everything that we do, at this splendid institution, really, is a great tribute to the dedication, and support, of our trustees. thank you. of course, i want to thank the chairman council members who have joined us as well. you have been with us for a very challenging period of time, and we appreciate your encouragement, and support. now, we are, also, particularly, grateful for the support of first republic, which is the sponsor of today symposium. i know a number of members of first republic are with, us in the audience, today. i want to thank you, especially, for your partnership. our first discussion, lasting an hour, and includes a question and answer session. the q and a will be conducted via written no cards, and with questions on those note cards. you see the note card, a

eastern on the presidency, historian allen gelzo and other scholars examine whether the united states needs a president, then 8:00 p.m. eastern on lectures and history, southern utah history professor laura june davis, talks about federal guerilla attacks on water ways and pro confederate sympathizers that sabotaged union vessels. watch american history tv, saturdays on c-span 2 and find a full schedule on your program guide or watch online anytime at c-span.org/history. >> so how exactly did america get up to its neck in debt? >> we believe one of the greatest characteristics of being american is we're striving to provide equal opportunity for all citizens. >> c-spans video documentary competition 2022, students around the country giving behind-the-scenes looks, using the hash-tag students can, if middle or high school student, you can enter the competition. create a 5 to 6 minute documentary using c-span video clips that answer the question, how does the federal government impact your life? >> be passionate about what you're discussing, to express your view no matter how large or sm

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. >> and there -- >> the relationship with allen. i don't think there is anything comparable in terms of people who were considering reparations for black american descendents of slavery. >> i was struck by the testimony i believe who we marked in 1980 over one weekend some white vietnam protesters were incarcerated for 2.5 days. they received -- >> more receptly iran hassages 1986 were given $10,000 per day of their incarceration coming to 4 hadn't $4 million per person. we heard don, he's one of the memberrings of the task force. he said the dollars amount was pulled out-of-the air. >> yeah, there are stories there. >> we, you know, we spoke about that whole process. what we are focusing on is the that's another difference. >> i think there has been a large long tendency to say something to the effect well, it was -- the money didn't matter. the people wanted the apology. the sum of money is far below what we think any reasonable estimate should be. it wasn't entirely trivial. you say there is an estimate of $3 billion in lost prop

president of programs and public relations, it is my leisure to welcome you all tonight special guests, allen. newest book, our elite a life, a copies of biography someone a lot of us think we might know but it's an interesting

which is a figure of speech that daniel allen would probably approve of. everybody wants to have a say in the speech. and, even though it is annoying for the speech writers, sometimes the approval loop ten save you. in this case, there was a factual error in the original version of the speech. let me enlarge this a little. ben elliott was the guy in charge of speech writing, see page two, suggest double check facts of army as i recall, the big guns were not in place at the top of the cliffs, they had been moved. which is true. so, they checked the facts, jim was right, and they changed the text to remove the factual error. this did not work with the fake e to-go comment. but nobody is perfect. so the speech goes through the approval loop, in this case, it had the intended effect. see the circled ideas, and we guns were quieted, etc. and so, reagan gave this famous speech. again, it is worth seeing some of the video. >> listen to the podcast every tuesday. have a seat. may he rest in peace. ronald reagan passing away today. >> much of europe have been under

and part of what daniel allen again called "democratic writing." you know, my own experience i remember one time i was writing something when i was in washington, and i quoted something there is that doesn't love a wall. okay? where's that from? robert frost. and my boss -- the person who was immediately reviewing that was seemingly unfamiliar with robert frost and she wrote "does not sound right." so i had to explain where it came from. it ended up on the discard pile anyway. so i have lot of frustrating stories from my own time writing speeches and other materials in washington. what else? other major takeaways from this week's readings? yeah. >> -- process --. i'm surprised by how much like the policy experts scrutinized over every single word. like, i remember the china speech, for example, where one expert policy person was like, taking issue with the history as a river analogy and somehow linked that to, like, marxism and communism, you know. and the speechwriter is just like i'm just trying to use a nice manufacture. >> again, tremendously f

first of all, danielle allen is the university professor at harvard university, a policy expert, on democracy and innovation, public health, equity, justice reform and political economy. she also directs the democratic knowledge project. and her books include our declaration, a reading of the declaration of independence. american tragedy and talking to strangers, and who is one of the principal investigators of the "educating for american democracy" project. and secondly we have mark bauerlein, a mayor this professor of english at emory university. an editor at first things magazine. his books include literary criticism an autopsy. and the dumbest generation. -- he has written several articles critical of the "educating for american democracy" project. we are going to start with a five minute overview of that roadmap from danielle and then we are going to get to the debate. and please at those questions as you've got them. danielle? over to you. >> perfect. thank you so much. mike, really appreciate it. and thank you to the fordham institute for hosting this important conversation. the "educa

eastern on the presidency, historian allen guelzo and other scholars examine a fundamental question about whether the united states needs a president. >> and then at 8:00 p.m. eastern in lectures in history, southern utah university talks about attacks on u.s. waterways in the civil war and describes pro-confederate sympathizers who sabotages union vessels. exploring the american story, watch american history tv, saturdays on c-span2, and find a full schedule on your program guide or watch online anytime at c-span.org/history. >> so our guest tonight, candice milard is the author of three "new york times" best sellers, the river of doubt, theodore roosevelt's darkest journey. destiny of a republic, james garfield, and hero of the empire, a daring escape and the making of winston churchill. that book was named amazon's number one history book of 2016. her work has also appeared in "the new york times" book review, "washington post" book world, the guardian, national geographic, and "time" magazine, and candice is going to be in conversation tonight with matthew pearl who is a writer of fic

the history center, it is my absolute pleasure to welcome the audience and tonight's special guest, allen gelzo, discussing his book, robert e. lee, the life, a figure a lot of us think we may

eastern on the presidency, historian allen guelzo and other scholars examine a fundamental question about whether the united states needs a president. and then at 8:00 p.m. eastern on lectures in history, southern utah university professor laura june davis talks about confederate guerilla attacks on u.s. waterways during the civil war, and describes pro-confederate sympathizers who sabotages union vessels. exploring the american story, watch american history tv, saturdays on c-span2. and find a full schedule on your program guide or watch online any time at c-span.org/history. >>> the study of history explores the questions of why and how things happened. sometimes what seems to be familiar is revealed to possess many facets. in his new book "liberty is sweet" woody holton seeks out the hidden history of the american revolution. holton used more than 1,000 eyewitness accounts to construct this history. many of those are freely available online for you to read for yourselves. the original words of leading figures of the revolution may be found on founders online, a website hosted by the na

on that, there is actually a really good article in this month's naval history magazine written by allen zim that talks about the failure of the second wave attack as far as the japanese were concerned. so the japanese left money on the table that they could have used to better effect in the campaign that is going unfold in the next year. in terms of their operational objectives, you know, tactically that plays into operations. you can say, you know, did they sink four american battleships? yes. objective achieved. did they sink american carriers? no. sadly they didn't. did they buy a six month respite for operations? eh, i'm going to give them this one. the battle of coral sea happens exactly five months to the day after pearl harbor. so five month, six months, i'm going to give them that one. it is that unwritten fourth objective though, to destroy american morale at the outset of this war that is a disastrous failure that in fact the way that this attack was commenced and carried out against the americans, as we all know, enraged american public opinion. and in effect took any possibi

first of all, danielle allen is the james bryant conan university professor at harvard university. she's a public policy expert who focused in public health and equity, justice reform, education, and political economy. she also directs the democratic knowledge project and her books include our declaration, in defense of equality. an american tragedy and talking to strangers, anxieties of citizenship since brown v. board of education and she was one of the principal investigators who led the educating for american democracy project. second, we have mark bauerlein, who is the emeritus professor of english at emory university and an editor at first things magazine. his books include literary criticism, an tops. never phobia, a race riot in atlanta, 1906, and the dumbest generation, how the digital age stupefies young americans and jeopardizes our future. aka, don't trust anyone under 30. he's written several articles critical of the educating for american democracy. we're going to start with a five-minute overvow of that road map from danielle and then we'll get into the debate. again

eastern on the presidency, historian allen guelzo and other scholars examine a fundamental question about whether the united states needs a president. >> and then at 8:00 p.m. eastern in lectures in history, southern utah university talks about attacks on u.s. waterways in the civil war and describes pro-confederate sympathizers who sabotages union vessels. exploring the american story, watch american history tv, saturdays on c-span2, and find a full schedule on your program guide or watch online anytime at c-span.org/history.