scott is also mike's podcast partner for the silicon valley insider weekly overview of silicon valley tech industry scott holds a degree in political science and ucla. welcome mike and scott but we're so looking forward to your conversation, take it away. >> thank you so much. welcome everyone, and michael welcome to you. it's great to be here. >> it's great to talk to you, this time i get to ask you the questions. >> and folks, please let us be a little informal. scott and i are not really capable of anything else. [laughter] this is an honor to be here for many reasons. mike, you know i'm a big fan of yours. as a tech reporter i've been standing on your shoulders for years. in some of the earliest stories i did as a silicon valley reporter were at sea hm and you have allowed me to do many there and geek out. individually to see the exhibits. always appreciate it it's an honor to be associated with that. >> if i can add, i am deeply honored. i've done many things at the museum over the years. i go back safari member would gordon glenn bell made the decision to move to silicon valley

scott is mike's podcast partner for the silicon valley insider, a weekly overview of silicon valley in the tech industry. he holds a degree in political science from ucla. welcome mike and scott, we are looking forward to your conversation. take away. >> thank you so much. welcome to everyone. michael, welcome to you. it's great to talk to you and this time i get to ask you a question. please allow us to be informal, we are fully i capable of anythg else. [laughter] >> this is an honor to be here for many reasons. i am a big fan of yours and as a tech reporter, i've been standing on your shoulders for years but also computer history museum, some of the earliest stories i did as a silicon valley reporter were at hm and you have allowed me to host programming there to do many interviews and geek out both individually and children to be the exhibits and i always appreciated that. it's an honor to be associated with that. >> if i can add, i am deeply honored, i've done many things over the years, i go back so far, i remember when gordon and bell were making the decision to move to silicon

silicon batteries so no silicon is come back to silicon valley but is there v product going to work? i don't know but it's possible that batteries can now get on the freight train in not the semi conductors. i think batteries are going to be crucial and whoever has the great breakthrough, you know i had lunch a while back with frederico and i said what's the greatest invention in valley history? is it the tryout -- triode or the transistor? is it the integrated circuit? visit you and your team with the microprocessor and he said no, i think the one true moment of genius in that whole history to play in our process. he said everything else that wee all do you could see it coming. you are extrapolating from where we are now to what we could do in the future but he says the idea of taking the transistor and laying it flat and the printing process and being able to scale it down 10 nanometers with the planar process that was not an active engineering. he said that was an act of artistic creation and he said everything else pales next to that moment when they came up with that so i though

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valley i believe in the american story and the genius of our founding and principles we become the first multiracial democracy in the world. i believe in an honest accounting. with the challenges of jim crow that i went every person to know america is an extraordinary place and every kid to feel proud is not a partisan issue that is factual. gerry: that is good to hear and i very much agree with you but i still wonder if maybe your colleagues especially the progressive caucus are completely on board. after the break as consumer and other prices are soaring the president is passing the buck on inflation but who is he blaming? when it comes to autism, finding the right words can be tough. finding understanding doesn't have to be. together, we can create a kinder, more inclusive world for the millions of people on the autism spectrum. go to autismspeaks.org you're a one-man stitchwork master. but your staffing plan needs to go up a size. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/

people like frances haugen are a rare thing in silicon valley. the decision she made to take on facebook wasn't ta ken lightly. the company intentionally hides vital information from the public, from the us government and from governments around the world. silicon valley is a notoriously secretive and notoriously litigious place when it comes to employees who want to put their head above the parapet to raise concerns. how did big tech get so big? and one of the reasons it got so big, to be honest, is by exploiting thousands of people who work there. and the way that they have managed to keep that exploitation going is by silencing people who work there, including through incredibly wide and broad non—disclosure agreements. i've honestly almost never seen anything like it. i'm a kind of human rights lawyer who used to bring cases against the cia, and the culture of secrecy and fear at big tech is basically as bad as i used to see in the cia. it means whistle—blowers who want to come forward, like haugen, need to be extremely brave and have ext

announcer: from the heart of where innovation, money and power collide, in silicon valley and beyond, this is bloomberg technology with emily chang. emily: i'm emily chang in san francisco and this is "bloomberg technology." in the next hour, president biden promises change for the better with his new infrastructure law coming at a precarious political moment as polls show overwhelming pessimism across the u.s. about the economy. we will break down the details. plus, another twitter filled weekend for elon musk the world's richest person taking on senator sanders. wide twitter users believe he could be hinting at selling more --tesla shares. and he's the youngest ceo of a public company on track to transform the trucking kindest re-dutch industry. -- the trucking industry. i will be speaking to the ceo of embarq. let's get a look at the markets. kriti gupta has the full picture. >> names like tesla and nvidia down on the day but then you have facebook and alphabet higher on the day. the s&p 500 index essentially unchanged on the day. another thing it shows is a risk off day with the c

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after silicon valley, which is to say, disruptors, what did they do? they identified a large market that was not being fully in property -- and properly served and said i will provide a solution. 95% of our revenue comes from permanent capital vehicles, so we have attired different offering -- entirely different offering. we said there is a chance to be that disruptor, and then we purposely built a business model that looked like a tech company. we did not start and say our base model is a bank, and how do we become a better bank. we started by saying cure is a necessary service that if we can do a great job delivering the product we can earn really attractive risk-adjusted returns , and this is the important point for our shareholders. we look a lot like a sas business and people do not map technology to wall street, but we have done this consciously. >> where businesses are set up to deliver to their end to gives her a certain set of services, but if you held our income statement against any other sas company you would be surprised how similar they a

valley i believe in the american story and the genius of our founding and principles we become the first multiracial democracy in the world. i believe in an honest accounting. with the challenges of jim crow that i went every person to know america is an extraordinary place and every kid to feel proud is not a partisan issue that is factual. gerry: that is good to hear and i very much agree with you but i still wonder if maybe your colleagues especially the progressive caucus are completely on board. after the break as consumer and other prices are soaring the president is passing the buck on inflation but who is he blaming? (vo) singing, or speaking. reason, or fun. daring, or thoughtful. sensitive, or strong. progress isn't either or progress is everything. every day in business brings something new. so get the flexibility of the new mobile service designed for your small business. introducing comcast business mobile. you get the most reliable network with nationwide 5g included. and you can get unlimited data for just $30 per line per month when you get four lines or mix and match dat

it was purchased by a billionaire, a silicon valley venture capitalist, mark atkrae sun. so the estate sits on seven acres and has its own movie theater and two guest homes. wow. >>> an act of kindness on halloween translating to more treats for children going door to door. a mountain view woman left a bowl of candy outside her door, and the candy was gone by the time a group of girls arrived. first, they took a few pieces, but then look what they do, they add candy to the bowl for the next set of trick-or-treaters. isn't that nice? that is kindness. >> i thought that the story would go another way, but, no, that's beautiful. >> i put a bowl out and we still had tons in there. >> really? >> yeah. >> look at this. halloween may be over but we still want to share awesome customers. look, we see princesses, and so many beautiful costumes. one to the left, i am not sure what is going on there? is that bedrock, "the flintstones"? i can't make it out. too small for me on my screen. we will share more as we go through the morning. did any of you dress up? >> i showed cute, beaut

and, you know, the programming, the counter cultural attitude of the early age of silicon valley, well, those programming data have now become the goliath and the pandemic has actually reinforced this for me at least, which is we're already aware of the some of the problems of big tech 18 months ago, but now our lives have become even more enmeshed in the decisions made by a very small number of people inside a very small number of tech companies. we're dependent on ways that we first, even 18 months dependent upon a small number of platforms through our work lives. through our private lives, for our educational lives and the power that's vested in a tiny number of people in silicon valley amounts to private governance and that's not serving us as citizens very well at all. >> from a technologist point of view, how we actually think about the systems that get built. they get built with particular metrics that are jaunt quantifiable and part of that that they're easily quantifiable. that doesn't mean they match what we really want. they're proxies for what we really want. and when you g

three rounds of silicon valley funding for her idea before she was 24 years old. under friendly questioning from her defense attorney, one of her against attorneys, kevin downey, she talked about the early days of theranos. how she dropped out of stanford at 19 years old after doing some research on microfluidics which became the basis for her invention. initially she thought of a pill people could swallow that would send out data in realtime over how somebody was doing healthwise then it turned into a patch. ultimately after dealing with pharmaceutical companies and talking and doing more research, the idea of this microblood testing device, which ultimately did not work again, by the time she was 24 years old, she had contracts with big pharmaceutical companies. pfizer, glaxosmithkline, bristol-myers squibb all of this now on display for the jury as they get a sense of the elizabeth holmes that dazzled wall street, dazzled investors and dazzled silicon valley a lot more to come next week, including potentially some pretty rough cross examination. >> scott cohn l

it is embedded in the structure of the capitol industry driving the growth of silicon valley and face companies that prioritize the scale before we even understand anything about the impacts of technology in society. it reflects the path paved to market dominance by market in retreat from exercising oversight. so stanford has an important role to a play and there are individuals who may look inside it didn't pay attention to the consequences of the moment of tremendous optimism. the bottom line is there are systemic challenges that need addressed stanford needs to be at the center of addressing those challenges but stanford can't do alone. >> thanks, that makes a lot of sense and i recognize even if i've only been at stanford about two years, the change in the questions people are asking, the awareness after january 6 storming of the u.s.g capitol after disinformation around covid, people really thought problems are not just in other communities, they can truly hit home. the harms are real, not virtual so too say that we see how hard it is for students to find jobs outside of the big

the story. >> hacking and distribution kicked into high gear at second harvest of silicon valley in san we've been doing this for 20 bucks. secure south be families rely on the food bank. year round. but there is no busier time that the holiday season volunteer in team lead in the been more than 400 hours of this year. ever since covid the numbers have just gone through the the food bank is feeding about 450,000 people each month. that's an 80% increase from before the pandemic. this year. we're providing 22% more far peace than he did last year. second harvest ceo leslie bacho says the organizations budget has doubled during the pandemic to keep up with them and it has added 15 more trucks opened a new warehouse and increased its staff 40%. at the same time, it has ended its traditional food collection. drives with barrels to be more efficient. >> bacho says second harvest has enough food but needs volunteers and monetary donations. and actually when people donate. >> money reconstruct it much farther for every dollar donated concerts update for 2 meals. >> say they believe in the

we have katherine here from second harvest from silicon valley. tell us about the need. >> the need exploded since the start of the pandemic. 1 in 4 people needed our support, and we are serving 450,000 people every month. >> reporter: that's more than prepandemic? >> yeah, 80% more than free pandemic. what we have seen is that it spiked right after shelter in place and it has not gone down, and our clients still need a lot of help. >> we have had a lot of our seniors and kids at home a lot more, so they were not necessarily getting fed at school, so that plays a factor, too? >> absolutely. a lot of seniors did not feel safe coming out so we started a program to deliver groceries to their homes which our volunteers are still busy doing. >> reporter: a lot of times volunteers want to drop off a ham or turkey but it's difficult to do that right now? >> yeah, we are renting a fourth warehouse to meet the need. we are distributing 12 million pounds of food every month, and so everybody can donate, and 95% of the contributions goes to the clients. we c

. >> we see an absolute growth in silicon valley and the growth of the technology industry. maria: you said the boxes are from afghanistan comes with consequences. >> why don't we just leave? we empower the taliban and there is a fundamental misunderstanding it is self-delusion on the part of the biden administration. >> are you saying prices are off is that a sellers market quick. >> it is. >> but it's also generic in some respects it could be the hardest market out there. maria: looking at where markets ended the we get was busy that record center hitting new record highs on the back of strong retail earnings and recovering labor market. there is still the big threat of rising inflation joining me to talk about that with managing partner in former raymond james vice chairman fred, it's great to see you this weekend. thank you for being here. >> needs to be here. thank you. maria: a lot of signals on the macro story some are better than expected retail sales numbers better than expected retail earnings with inflation so how are you investing right now and is that the story?

we y hear from corporate leaders are investors in silicon valley that the antiregulation push to do that regulation will slow down innovation and get inw the way of the progress that we need. we want you to understand that anti-regulation pushed as a rejection of democracy. to rejection of the role of our political -- the technology that we selected as a society to help us referee the critical values that exist. you are right to say and our democracyha isn't up to the task not only because of of technical knowledge that you pointed to put because of theno institutiol huge -- features that have made our very difficult and so cheveryone's reasonable expectation about what's like you to come out is crowned -- of congress the best prediction you could make in this current system at the moment. questions about content moderation the communications act but one of the places that we start and this is excerpted in the piece in the atlantic which was published a couple of days ago is can we find a set of areas for legislative action were democracy can do what it's a best at which is achieve conse

here is a somewhat sympathetic figure who gave it a shot like so many ceos in silicon valley and came up short. >> her former boyfriend, why was he brought up? he was obviously a big part of this. >> he was the coo, and it came up that he made certain budgetary decisions, and it came up that he came to hire and fire certain employees. she said many times during the trial, hey, the buck stops with me. i was the ceo. but we don't know if she's going to put some blame or whatever on sonny bulwani. his name was invoked by her today. >> so in theory, a decision could be made sometime next week. what's the game plan? where are they going with this, the defense? >> the defense is giving her a chance to say, i screwed up. >> and that's not against the law. >> not at all. i was in charge of the logos that we didn't really have permission to use going on the theranos paper that investors saw, logos for big pharma companies like pfizer. i was in charge of creating an environment that some people thought was overbearing and they quit. both times she said, i wish i could do it over again. look, ra

valley. back to you. >> thank you, mike. >>> it's election day in the bay area. coming up, how some of the key issues could be decided. >>> elections all across the nation, including, yes, virginia, it's a very important one. we'll go over that, coming up. >>> the all-new photos revealing what the so-called jet pack man in the sky near l.a.x. might be. interesting. >>> did you hear about the couple that got married and had their reception at a taco bell in pacifica. a lot of people interested in seeing the pictures. can you find them at nbcbayarea.com. you can see how the taco bell team made their day extra special. we'll be right back. ♪ i see trees of green ♪ ♪ red roses too ♪ ♪ i see them bloom for (music) ♪ so i think to myself ♪ ♪ oh what a wonderful world ♪ i drop off and pick up my kids from school so, i can't work early. or late. and i need to make enough to make it worthwhile. i can only work two days a week. and it can't interfere with my other job. i can do full-t

so, no matter what country you're in, silicon valley bros are exhausting. ( laughter ) meanwhile, the young have struck again, because "gen z has declared blond hair as 'cheugy.'" and a-listers such as gigi hadid, florence pugh, and hailey bieber have ditched their straw- colored 'dos and gone brunette. and they look pretty cool doing it. but, of course, true gen z style icons were brunette all along. ( cheers and applause ) catch my drip, fam! i'm a bop, t.b.h! laughter ) and does the carpet match the drapes? ( laughter ) nobody wants to know? i won't tell you. meanwhile-- they're hard-wood floors. meanwhile-- ( laughter and applause ) beloved-- ( applause ) what is wrong with you? you said you wanted to be in comedy! meanwhile, beloved cast member from "the office," b.j. novak, has a face. there it is. well, now that face is on products worldwide, and he's not sure why. people stealing celebrities' faces to sell stuff is very common. and this is true-- a few years ago, an iranian clothing company used my image to sell suits. i never should've done that stock photo gig in tehran. but

it's played a critical role in bridging the ecosystem that is silicon valley and it wrote this period of tremendousf tech optimism and we saw that reflected in every aspect of the campus. about riding that wave of optimism and backlash, we now face exactly that dynamic playing out on campus. a lack of trust in the tech companies and the concern among the individuals and the majors about whether they want to be associated with these societal harms. so it puts us in the position of educators on campus where we have to think and dig deep with our students around the questions of how do we amplify the benefits of technology while also mitigating these evidence harms. so the book itself calls for this kind of nuanced adult pragmatic conversation that's not a tech optimism and that's not a tech to pessimism, but recognizes that technology itself isn't neutral and involves trade-offs. it generates benefit alongside of the challenge collectively to think about how to weigh those things. >> but often i would say on this point, while we can focus on stanford and think about its potential role a

vta says it will get funding to help build the silicon valley b.a.r.t extension. caltrain will get money to help trekify its system, swapping diesel trains for electric ones. that's right along the peninsula. sam trans and ac transit will get money to invest in zero emissions buses. you see the money there, and it's coming here to those various agencies. these are just some of the agencies. our local cities will also cash in. mayor liccardo, san jose says his city, the most populous will get funds to upgrade the power grid, build more ev charging infrastructure, and buy electric buses for school districts. >>> another story we're watching on this monday night, teachers in oakland raising red flags about crammed cafeterias, rooms with poor ventilation and damaged outdoor canopies. they say their campuses could soon turn into covid hot spots. several local teach verse posted a video to youtube detailing the problems at various campuses within the ousc. teachers say among other issues there is not enough air filtration in crowded classrooms and cafeterias. and after

a big chunk of the masters of the universe of silicon valley don't seem to know a lot about the world outside of a relatively narrow elite american band and i think it is a failure of education of high school and as well as college they don't have that range of cultural and historicalal knowledge and grounding. but it wouldn't get better if you just do away with the four-year experience altogether. host: let's take some calls. new york c times columnist and author are caller comes in from tampa good afternoon. >>caller. my question is i am confused by the conservative christianity content of dominion is on that calling the believers to take control of all aspects of culture family, religion, entertainments and government. to me that conflict with the consultation on the very basic level that with article six that there should be no religious test for anybody for any qualificationff of office. and the government should in no way link any lot of the establishment of religion. host: do you know where dominion is him comes from? >> okay. i would like to a understand more about that. >> so

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he didn't tweet, he didn't post on facebook in the more that donald trump was banned by silicon valley to shut him up and ostracize him, the more he became everyman. he was everywhere and he was nowhere at the same time. they are obsessed with him but the only thing that is left of donald trump was his wonderful record. so joe biden did exactly the opposite of what trump did and it showed us that trump had done wonderful things. so i guess the message of the election was you've got to have that trump populace message, we've got to be angry and not take things from the left but when they control silicon valley and the corporate media and entertainment and k-12, you've got to be very careful how you target and focus your attacks and the irony was that by trying to destroy trump on social media, the rebirth him. i think it is really important for the republican party whether it is trump or his rivals to keep that message. remember, the republican party, they lost seven out of the last eight popular votes, presidential votes. and they have not won 51%. youngkin almost did. it was 50.9% or

valley in california, he and i worked on cybersecurity and we will continue to work on those issues but i am willing to find a way if others are willing to join me. >> nancy mace, do you hear from constituents more about the vote to subpoena steve bannon or your efforts to end of testing on puppies? >> the experiments by doctor fauci and the nih certainly garnered much more attention in my vote. as i promised i swore the vote on the subpoena power i wouldn't want to waterdown those powers for congress because when republicans are in the majority we want to have hearings and investigations. there has to be a method to hold those individuals responsible and it wasn't long ago that weat had at the hearings into the committee was created in the same manner and even the secretary of state showed up to ignore the subpoena so as somebody that is on oversight and at the ranking member of the civil rights subcommittee, i'm going to protect those rights to call people to testify and if they don't show up hold them in contempt regardless of the political affiliation and regardless of who's in

you really see the attitude representing a trent in silicon valley. living in a world where it is normal. new technology companies could create harmful effects. so, i want to ask may be a little bit more of a critical question. to what extent has safford university, you have a long history and a lot of experience in working with students, to what extent have they actively and successfully created the very culture where disruption is admired. giving access to the company but also inviting ceos and other tech executives and to teach. i would love to hear a bit of a reflection from each of you on how stanford plays a role in that typical disruptive ecosystem. starting with rob and shooting for this question with jeremy. >> absolutely. a significant responsibility for some of the problems we see a big tech and for that cultural orientation to aspire. looking for ways to code in your pajamas and roll your product out quickly and see what happens throw spaghetti on the wall and figure out any problems downstream. personally, i have seen in teaching generati

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they are funded by hollywood, silicone valley and wall street and the lobbyisties in washington. they are leaning left. but the heart of the democratic party bernie sanders. he really is president. i don't know if people understand that. he just doesn't have to show up. >> sean: joe didn't know we were paying $450,000 to illegal immigrants who don't respect our borders and senator. -- sovereignty. he told our own peter doocy stop talking about. >> there is a reason he likes ice cream. he never has to worry about getting a brain freeze. >> sean: [laughing]. your daughter will be a better governor but not a better stand up comic. appreciate both of you being with us. up next shocking new report about zero experience hunter biden. are the bidens compromised my china and russia and a big announcement about this show straight ahead. - [narrator] modern life, different schedules, different meals, different times. how do you keep everyone happy? with five cooking options, the cuisinart griddler is the ultimate in versatility. it has a full griddle, a full grill, a half grill, half gridd

eta says it includes funding to extend bart into silicon valley, and bart will be applying for funding for track and car replacement as well. >>> we are keeping close tabs on a story you are probably following as well, especially if you drive for your commute. the near-record bay area gas prices. this is a look we found for gas prices in milpitas this morning. americans are spending $600 more every day than this time last year. >> and it could force the u.s. government to tap into the oil reserves, but it won't lower costs in time for the holiday season. >> almost $6 for a gallon of regular unleaded gas. i just paid over $5 a gallon the other day and that was after shopping around and awful it has to do with supply and demand, and it hurts when you couple it with rising food prices and inflation, and some lawmakers calling on president biden to tap the petroleum reserve, but it all depends on global supply. >> it's hard to catch back up and it's going to take time. unfortunately, we may not see sizeable relief of the price of oil by 2022, and by then opec's production increases will be

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