and you specifically cited two books, robin deangelo's white fragility and ibram kendi's how to be an anti-racist. why those two books? >> guest: well, in art because those books -- in part because those books between them sold approximately 1.2 zillion copies -- the. [laughter] in the summer of 2020 in, you know, the period around the george floyd protests. but i think there is a sort of, they represent how a certain kind of progressive ideology on race catches out in practice in views on public policy, in views on sort of how we should deal with racism like kind of corporate anti-racist trainings that you hear so much about come often straight out of robin deangelo's work or other work like hers. a lot of the push is to, you know, sort of do away with or revise education and academic standards, i think, are connected to the argument in ibram kendi's work that, you know, those kind of programs are themselves effectively racist. they're sort of, you know, they aren't just sort of revealing differences, dlairting differences -- they're creating differences and so they need to be done a

the incentives created by ad revenue by facebook are similar to robin hood when they earn not just a spread fee. i'm hoping you could confirm those issues, the conflict between looking out for investors' best interests and the ways that those companies earn money, that that will be a subject of your investigation. if you can confirm that, then i can go on to the next. if not, i would love to hear why not. >> i think it's central. it's the issue of our day that digital analytics are being used to not only optimize for our return but may be used to optimize for the company, the platform's revenues. if they're being done that way, then that creates a conflict. it might create a more fun environment for us, but that's okay. it's creating more revenue. what is that conflict there? how do we protect investors? >> i'm delighted to hear that. we can follow-up offline. i want to shift the climate. some seem to think the question is whether disclosure might increase the compliance cost for small mom and pop businesses. i would suggest that's not in the top 100 issues that are caused by climate

if you see him in films, my students all think robin williams is theodore roosevelt from the movie "a night in the museum." but there's so many films about theodore roosevelt that include that rough rider image, the cowboy on horseback. so, yeah, absolutely. and the charisma, he knew -- roosevelt -- the power of motion pictures. and he tried to capture that essence in many ways. >> and he was a man of the tomb. it was such a period of change. >> the introduction of airplanes, submarines, motion pictures come in during his time at the white house. this is a remarkable period of change. and he seems to be the first modern president because he understands capturing the imagination of the american people is really a pr exercise and he needs to reach out to them in order to get congress to do something or in order to extend american power throughout the world. roosevelt is a revolutionary figure for the white house because he reshapes the office itself. >> we're going to take questions from people watching this. but, first, we have another special bit of insight from one of the brightest s

my students all think robin williams is theodore roosevelt from "night at the museum." and there he is a man of action. many images include the rough rider image storming up a san juan hill or something like that. absolutely and the charisma, he knew, roosevelt knew the power of motion pictures and he tried to capture that essence in many ways. >> he was a man of the time. it was such a period of change. >> absolutely. the introduction of airplanes, submarines, motion pictures, in fact, and this is a remarkable period. he seems to be the first modern president, because he understands capturing the imagination is a pr exercise and he needs to reach out to get congress to do something or to extend american power throughout the world. roosevelt is a revolutionary figure for the white house because he reshapes the office itself. >> well, we're going to take questions from -- i see them coming in from a lot of the people watching. but first we have another special bit of insite from one of the brightest stars that i know at the white house historical association. the histori

robin son-in-law was carrying it through the court packing case. he was the senate majority leader who literally worked himself to death and died before he could be appointed to the court. but roosevelt had turned on him and he was afraid that as a southerner, he wouldn't carry through his liberal agenda. so he left robinson in history. and robinson, i found out his best friend was bernard ba baruke. >> there's a college named after him, isn't you there? >> that's where i work. but it is strange the way things turned. the whole thing could have been settled long before it went down to defeat if the plan had -- it's been carried through. roosevelt was going to appoint robinson. he was going to have it his way or the highway. >> i have two more comments about the appointees. i want to flag felix frankfurter because he was, of course, brilliant. and in his career, i think, most closely to the judicial restraint model that court packing is about, that our policy in our country should by and large be made by our elected representatives and it's the supr

charisma of a hollywood actor and you know if you see him in films you'll you know, my students all think robin williams is theodore roosevelt from the movie a night at the museum and there of course, he is a man of action, but there's so many films about theodore roosevelt many of which include that rough rider image the cowboy on horseback storming up a san juan hill or something like that. so, yeah, absolutely and the charisma he knew roosevelt in his own lifetime the power of motion pictures and he tried to capture that essence in in many ways. and he was a man of the time it was such a period of change. absolutely. i mean the introduction of airplanes submarines motion pictures. in fact come in during his is time at the white house. so this is a remarkable period of changing he seems to be really the first modern president because he understands that capturing the imagination of the american people is really a pr exercise and he needs to reach out to them in order to get congress to do something or in order to you know, extend american power throughout the world. so roosevelt is a revoluti

to know more want to get to this because this is so important and much has been made about stock in robin hood and all of that, what are you doing to protect investors and our security systems second, what can and must congress do to stop this? make it a felony, we've got to get this can protect our financial system is the heart and soul and this is our investment, our stock market that must be held away from this so what can we do to put strong measures and to stop this behavior? >> the game stop has numerous issues, some of which are in plumbing and infrastructure but you are at another level. whether there were things congress can do to address the challenges there. what we are doing is three or four different projects trying to shorten the clearing cycles, we put out for comment to the public to weigh in on of digital practices -- >> my time is getting short here but i do want to say, i've asked my staff to put together a bill that we can have strong enforcement sensors in will not allow a social media platform on this foundation of our great nation. our stock exchange. you and i both

and so i looked over and i said, it was robin, it was robert gibbs -- [laughs] and it was like, no more picking on robert! you have those moments when you are on your trip. there are times when you all cry together. or you had a serious conversation about where you will be sending u.s. troops. these are things that allow you to come back, and trust each other with the debate. and again, having that moment with you, and i'm going to disagree with, you but i will disagree, with you respectfully. i think those trips were, very, very important. not the least of which is, to bear witness to what goes on in the world, and to bring it back. i know there are people who have a tendency to brag that they didn't have a passport. but when you are elected to the u.s. house of representatives, or the senate, you call the president a leader of the free world. it's nice to be able to get to know places outside the united states, in order to make appropriate decisions. >> this is just a wrap up question. because, when you served, there was relatively so few women in congress, at that time. do you feel t