for more, we are joined by the nrc's secretary general jan egeland, who is in oslo, norway, has just returned from a trip to kerman province in iran where he met with refugees and refugee camp. he said iran alone has displaced than the european countries combined. despite this, the european championship and erecting barbed wire against refugees give negligible funds for displaced afghans elsewhere. his recent "new york times" op-ed is headlined "afghanistan is facing a total economic meltdown." welcome back to democracy now! describe the scope of the catastrophe in afghanistan right now and what you think needs to happen. >> well, i recently was also in afghanistan and i sat down with the mothers in these displacement camps around kabul. i asked them, what about the fure? whato you think of the future? they told me very clearly, we believe we will starve and freezeo death this harsh winter unless there is an enormous aid operation coming throh and unless there is a public sector that is able to provide services. it is as acute as that. 40 million civilians were left hind when the nat