drew min, a junior at uc berkeley, and dennis casey wu. thanks for your time tonight. drew, why do this? do you want just that apology on the record or something beyond that? >> raj, thank you for having the both of us here. i think it's -- this is important because -- so one of the things that i would like to see from this is, of course, and i explained this before to others is this is a symbolic first step. a strong foundation for a future of further understanding of the past. so if you -- if you ask any -- i speak as an api myself, but the pride is such an important part of being an api that this symbolic apology will do so many things in breaking the boundaries of trust between different communities. we hope this will propel local governments to do more for their api communities. >> we're all in the same boat here. members of the api community, and all educated here in the bay area. dennis, let's bring you in here. how personal is this to you and to your family? >> well, you know, because my dad has told me stories of when he came to the u.s. in like the 1950s how

berkeley. nice to see both of you. audry, you talked to that woman that discovered the discrimination in her deed. i want to read the deed of my home. how did she initially find out? >> you should read the deed of your home. leslie actually found the race pretty much the race restrictions in her deed when she first bought it back in 2003, her home in 2003. as you heard her say there, she found it very disturbing and the reason why she read through her home deed is because she's an architect and was actually looking for a design restrictions and guidelines instead you see there she found something much more disturbing. >> yeah, i don't know who reads through that dead. audry, we both grew up in the peninsula, if that neighborhood knew about this for awhile, why not act sooner? or the time is now. >> the time is now. last year we saw so many things happen in our country. leslie told me after she saw the killings of george floyd, ahmaud arbery and breonna taylor, she knew she had to do something to contribute. >> have you

more than a dozen cities around the country, including here in san francisco, as well as oakland and berkeley, have decided that government use of technology and the impacts of our freedoms, the balance has to work out and they have chosen to ban the use of the government technology. >> the facial recognition will stay with you, nathan. this is a big way to make money to give our data away, correct? >> we know data collection, advertisers, the monetizing of our personal information, as well as our biometric information in the case of facial recognition technology is certainly a concern. so illinois has taken -- already taken steps to make sure there's not unconsented collection of biometric information. there's been federal legislation put forward to replicate that on the federal level. i know the eu and new zealand are looking at similar ways to do that. but back to your question, yes, the montization of our information is a concern, and we want to make sure the power is in the hands of the people. >> scott, we're not just talking facebook here. obviously that's the easy target, especially i