they didn't abound as well as, say, barack obama did. but you combine that with solid turnout, above presidential numbers for glenn youngkin in some of the rural areas, and that was politically a deadly combination for terry mcauliffe. >> woodruff: quickly, we can show our viewers a graphic that shows that glenn youngkin was able to pull in, what, 53% of suburban voters in virginia compared to president and former president trump, 45% just last november. james carville, to you, looking at these results, your party, what went wrong? >> what went wrong was this stupid wokeness. don't just look at virginia and new jersey, look at long island, look at buffalo, minneapolis, even seattle, washington. i mean, this defund the police lunacy, this take abraham lincoln's name off schools, people see that. it's had a suppressive effect across the country to these democrats. some of these people need to go to a woke detox center or something. they're expressing language people just don't use and there's a backlash and frustration at that. the suburba