and he listed joe biden, any listed alexandria ocasio-cortez among others. and here is escalating. and we have been pointed out about that killing on the animated videos that is to stir and bone-chilling. they slice their spinal cord with two summits rice cords moving in opposite directions. i found that absolutely bone-chilling. so for him to say that he didn't know that somehow it was a joke, and for members of the house not to step up is really, for me, would've been despicable. if they did, i would absolutely honor that they took away his assignments, and honored representative in putting that motion forward. but this is not the end. this is the first step. and again, i'm looking forward to attorney general merrick garland's charges against my brother. >> when your brother did speak to day, he did not apologize. and he did blame his staff. let's listen to what he had to say, today. >> i do not in spells violence among anyone. i've never have. it was not my purpose to make anyone upset. i voluntarily took the cartoon down, not because it was itself a, threat but because some tho

depicted and animate -- with his head to burn post-killing another character with democratic congresswoman alexandria -- cortez's head. the video then showed gosar's character attacking a character with president biden's head. without showing the actual video because as a threat of violence, and at an animated version of goes our kills's colleagues. well that's all very disturbing, congressman goes our head not apologized for the video, in fact he's dug and saying quote, it is a symbol like cartoon. it is not real life. congressman gaga is our cannot fly. the hero of the cartoon goes after the monster, the policy monster of open borders, i will always fight to defend the rule of law, securing our borders, and the american first agenda. just tonight, speaker of the house nancy pelosi addressed gosar's actions and why they're going to vote on centering him. >> he made threats and suggestions about harming a

does he need to act on his sociopathic fantasy for representative alexandria ocasio-cortez? i am very concerned for she and other members. and this is absolutely unacceptable. i do not understand it. and i'm livid, lawrence. >> congresswoman ocasio-cortez tweeted a reply tonight. she said "so while i was en route to glasgow, a creepy member i work with who fund raises for neo-nazi groups shared a fantasy video of him killing me. and he'll face no consequences because leader mccarthy cheers him on with excuses." she obviously puts up with more threats than most people in the history of the house of representatives, but what is new is that those threats are coming from a member of the house of representatives. >> and you would think that those very members alongside this person would hold him accountable. no. they leave it to family members to come forward in the public and it's on a show like yours, which by the way, thank you for letting me speak out here again. this is my first time on your show, but i appreciate any opportunity to put a spotlight on this awful man. i mean,

because of that video he tweeted showing him killing congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. an animae video. we won't show you that, but we will show you what is going down on the house floor. we'll bring that vote to you live when it happens. and i want to bring in our team covering the capitol for us. ali vitali, john bresnahan is here with us as well. ali, if we have you, what is the deal and when -- we don't have ali vitali. bres, do we have you? because we're juggling a lot here as we're coming on the air with this live breaking coverage. you're with us, right? >> i'm with you. you can hear me? >> i sure can. bring me up to speed because i know that we've been seeing a number of speeches here including alexandria ocasio-cortez herself. speaker pelosi and others. what has stood out to you? >> well, alexandria ocasio-cortez spoke, gosar spoke, he down played the significance of the video. and you talked about this anime video that where he kills ocasio-cortez in the video and threatens the president of the united states, president biden. he did not apologize. he tried to

and that is where we must draw the line independent of party, identity, or belief. >> congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez was not alone. other members also rose to speak about the increasing threats they have faced recently. >> i am a victim of violence. i know what it's like. i also was in the gallery clamoring for life when the shots rang out in the speakers' lobby. violence against women in politics is a global phenomenon. a 2016 survey by the interparliamentary union found 82% of women parliamentarians have experienced psychological violence. and 44% have received threats of death, rape, beatings, or abduction. the intent of these online threats against women is clear. silence them. strip them of their power. and discourage them from running for office. >> congresswoman jackie speier of california is also the sponsor of the resolution to censure paul gosar. she'll be joining me along with sheila jackson lee of texas in a bit. threats and violence are as best we can tell becoming more commonplace in politics. in a recent "new york times" piece, debbie dingell, democrat from michigan, sai

today alexandria ocasio-cortez said, it's been well over a week. he not only has not apologized. he not only has not made any sort of contact or outreach, neither he nor the republican leader of the party, but he has also doubled down. today paul gosar said the video is, quote, funny and completely harmless with kevin mccarthy clinging to his cowardly silence about the video and doing nothing about paul gosar. nancy pelosi decided to do to herself. she is going to bring in a censure vote against paul gosar to the house floor tomorrow. tonight the house rules committee voted on party lines to send a censure resolution to the house floor for that vote tomorrow. the resolution will strip paul gosar of his committee assignments in the house. he will be removed from the house oversight committee where alexandria ocasio-cortez is also a member, and he will also be removed from the house natural resources committee. two republicans, liz cheney and adam kinzinger, support censuring paul gosar. if the house votes to censure paul gosar tomorrow, congressman gosar must stand in the well of

that is where we must draw the line independent of party, identity, or belief. >> congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez other members also chose to speak. >> i am a victim of violence. i know what it's like. i also was in that gallery, clambering for life, when the shots rang out in the speakers lobby. violence against women in politics is a global phenomenon. a 2016, there was a survey in the union found that 80% of women policy -- parliamentarians have received psychological violent. 44% have received threats of death, rape, beatings, or abductions. the intent of these online threats against women, is clear. silence them. strip them of their power, and discourage them from running for office. >> congresswoman jackie speier of california is also the sponsor of the resolution of this censure for paul gosar. also sherrilyn ifill congress will join me later. in recent new york times pace, debbie dingell socialist and by men with assault rifles outside of her home last year after she was denounced by tucker carlson on his fox news show. she also showed a portion of a voice mail one of hundre

gosar censured wednesday over an animated video he tweeted showing him killing alexandria ocasio-cortez. and all in this theaterrics, purposely and soon forgotten, the bill passed friday morning by a standing ovation by democrats. and now americans, regardless of party, will reap the benefits, including mccarthy's own constituents in california's 23rd district, which happens to be home to one of the highest numbers of immigrants in this country. its local economy devastate ed by the pandemic. mccarthy's ditribe was for an increased tribal republican base and its leader, twice-impeached trump. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us on saturday night. listening to kevin mccarthy ranting and raving and not telling his republican party to stand down, to go back to the business of governing and not trying to insight violence was really devastating for so many people. take a look at what was said on gosar. >> do you plan to give margery taylor greene and paul gosar their committee assignments now? >> the committee assignment now, they may have better committee assignments. i think wi

he aired a kartun killing alexandria ocasio-cortez and slashing president biden with a weapon. there's this response by ocasio-cortez. >> it's a sad day in which a member who lead as political party in the united states of america cannot bring themselves to say that issuing a depiction of murdering a member of congress is wrong. what is so hard about saying that this is wrong? this is not about me. this is not about representative gosar. but this is about what we are willing to accept. >> following the vote to censure him, gosar issued his own defense, liking himself to one of the founding fathers. >> i do not espouse violence toward anyone. i never have. it was not my purpose to make anyone upset. >> if i must join alexander hamill tennessee, the first to be censured by this house, so be it. it is done. >> alexander hamilton, huh? just two republicans, liz cheney of wyoming and adam kinzinger broke from the republican party. >> throughout the entire history of the house of representatives, it's been an unwritten rule or norm of conduct that one party was not attempt to exercis

aside from censuring like gosser of him in the cartoon killing alexandria ocasio-cortez, what needs to be done to tamp down on this aggressive engagement having in washington right now? >> well, i think, you know, look, censoring is one thing. that's a slap on the wrist. i mean, i think these members need to be removed from their committees, and i think there should be a consideration of criminal charges, depending on what the violation is. with twitter and with social media becoming more and more prevalent, members of congress use those tools sometimes effectively, but of course, as you just mentioned what congressman gosar did in a very dangerous derogatory manner, it is simply unfathomable, yasmin, that a member of congress could tweet a video like that threatening to kill someone that he essentially, and he gets a slap on the wrist. it's absolutely insane. i remember back in the day when republicans and democrats sit down together, they would have dinner. they would come up with bipartisan solutions to problems. that is still happening but we're not seeing enough of that. instead,

>> new reaction to a violent video depict agrepublican congressman stabbing new york representative alexandria ocasio-cortez to death. congressman paul gosar shared an anime cartoon video depicting himself killing aoc and turning his sword on biden. congresswoman jack we're speer yesterday introduced a recommendation to censure gosar. >> we have censured members of congress for using unparliamentary language or criticizing the speaker. this goes far beyond that. >> kevin mccarthy said he wanted to -- and paul gosar is making these threats against alexandria ocasio-cortez. we have to take them at their word. >> so joining me aright now is jennifer gosar. she's paul gosar's sister and has been advocating that he should be held accountable for his actions. this can't be easy for you, jennifer, but i want to start with saying we're not showing the video here on msnbc, but what went through your mind when you saw it? >> it made my heart race. it made -- i turned red. i felt heat. i was nauseous, and i felt incensed, absolutely incensed, alex. horrified. >> jennifer, is this the brother that you alw

does ilhan omar -- does representative alexandria ocasio-cortez -- or are we going to be wait for there to be an actual attempt on their life in order to recognize just how vile and violent the republican party has become? >> adam, what was your read on this statement? was she trying to avoid getting stripped of committee assignments and duties the way that paul gosar has for his misogynistic attacks or the way marjorie taylor greene has for her anti-semitic comments? has she avoided that by using that half-hearted apology, i don't want to use that word, but it is what it is. what do you think? >> i think you're right, ayman. this is an incredibly new dynamic we're seeing where freshmen members of the house, whether it's marjorie taylor greene or lauren boebert, sort of have the minority leader, kevin mccarthy, for lack of a better term, they have him by the base. they have him sort of over a barrel where they can sort of abstract policy wins because he wants to be speaker if republicans win back the house next year after 2022. i think sort of lost in all of this is that representative

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overall where we are in alexandria, virginia, and the video we've seen nationwide, we are seeing the in person lines continue to shrink, as more people are shifting online to shop. and relatively quiet where we have been, including here in alexandria, we've also seen quieter turnout at the mall of america, but what we also see, too, is that many of the discounts were teased earlier, right? so people were spending earlier as well and they will have the discounts throughout cyber week of next week. but the situation in terms of what retailers are offering really isn't as deep as last year, or the year before, and that certainly will hit consumers hard, right? because you're facing inflation and facing a higher cost of living. >> yes, so obviously inflation, shipping delays are impacting businesses but the big question of course is about customers. are you seeing any indication that people are shopping differently this year? >> you know, a lot of people say that they started shopping earlier than normal, well before this week and a lot of people are saying that they are opting to shop i

cartoon video shared by the arizona republican in which he's depicted stabbing democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez to death. yesterday i spoke with the congressman's sister, jennifer gosar, who expressed her frustration with the silence of the republican party over all this. >> my brother deserves the spotlight for this. and i really actually want to spotlight the hand-wringing, no-action of leadership. yes, censure is an appropriate first step, agreed. let's go there. but let's actually give it some teeth. let's take away his committee assignments. he's a senior member in the house. >> joining me now is arizona congressman ruben gallego, a democratic member of the house armed services and natural resources committees and the author of the new book "they called us lucky: the life and afterlife of the iraq war's hardest-hit unit." congressman, we'll talk about that book in a moment, but as your democratic colleagues push for a censure vote for congressman gosar, you heard his sister saying she wants something more substantial. is a censure show the the right route to go or is there so

we have cori bush saying i need to move my office, marjorie taylor greene is harassing me, alexandria ocasio-cortez being harassed on the steps of congress trying to go to work. representative shirley chizlam was stabbed while she was campaigning. we need more republicans to stay this is not tolerated. they would have blood on their hands. the fact that george washington warned us about this, the framers constantly debated this, federalist ten, if your viewers haven't read it yet, reread it, read it for the first time. this is something our framers were concerned about, and we're in this moment, especially now that we have women of color who are in leadership position asks we have far too many members of the republican party who are not just threatening them but essentially, jason, you and i know this, when someone tweets at these representatives, these people of color who are representing us in congress, what they're essentially doing is saying, hey, my army of, you know bigots and racists and people who are armed to the teeth, go after them, and then unfortunately, if something happ

should be noted he serves on that committee alongside congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. he will be stripped of his seat on the committee on natural resources. that will leave him with no committee assignments which will leave him nothing to do. another thing to keep an eye on tomorrow alongside that vote on congressman gosar is the sentencing tomorrow of capitol rioter jacob chansley. came to be known as the qanon shaman. you may remember him as the guy running around the capitol on january 6th with a six-foot spear wearing horns and a fur hat. the justice department is asking the court to sentence him to prison for more than four years. they are asking for more than 51 months in prison for him. if the judge accepts the justice department's recommendation, that would make him -- that would give him the longest sentence of any january 6th defendant thus far but again that vote on gosar and that sentencing decision on this guy would both be happening tomorrow. watch this space. small businesses like yours make gift-giving possible. now, comcast business has an exclusive gi

resolution to censor paul gosar after he posted an animated video of him assassinating congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez cortez an attacking president biden. the statement said, for a member of congress to post immunity lighted video on his social media accounts to depict himself killing representative alexandria ocasio-cortez is a clear cut case for singer. for that member to post such a video on his official instagram account and to use his official resources in the house of representatives to further violence against elected officials goes beyond the pale. joining us now are two of the house democrats cosponsoring, that censure of paul gosar, brenda lawrence of michigan and congresswoman debbie roy wasserman-schultz of missouri florida. what's brought you to the point of demanding censure, brenda lawrence? >> it was clear that this push for violence -- this is not having an opposition or an opposing view. this is about inflicting harm on human beings. i was one of those members on the floor on january the 6th where it was the most bipartisan day in congress. because republicans were run

resolution to censure paul gosar after he posted an animated video of him assassinating congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and attacking president biden. the co-sponsors of the censure resolution against paul gosar said in a statement tonight, for a member of congress to post a manipulated video on his social media accounts depicting himself killing representative alexandria ocasio-cortez and attacking president biden is a clear-cut case for censure. for that member to post such a video on his official instagram account and use his official congressional resources in the house of representatives to further violence against elected officials goes beyond the pale. joining us now are two of the house democrats co-sponsoring that censure of paul gosar, democratic congresswoman brenda lawrence of michigan and representative debbie wasserman-schultz of florida. representative lawrence, let me begin with you. what brought you to the point of demanding censure? >> it was clear that this rhetoric and this push for violence, this is not having an opposition or opposing view. this is about inflicting h

so talking about this as a moment where we know that female lawmakers, including alexandria ocasio-cortez, have faced threats and continued threats, and have to have personal security. these women and people of color members have very keenly felt the sting of this. and i think this is just a moment that encapsulates all of that. >> she has her own private security. carol, in watching this, i know we link it back, speaker pelosi linked it back to january 6th, saying it's not just talk, this talk can turn into real the violence, but it goes back furthering than that. it reminds me of my days on the campaign trail in 2015 and 2016 following donald trump, where he would talk about encouraging his supporters to punch protesters. it was really when we started to see the encouragement of violence, the joking about violence. donald trump often would say he was joking. it would actually result in actual violence. when it started to become just part of the game of politics, part of what you had to sign up for in order to play a part in our political world, in the run for the white house, or now in

alexandria ocasio-cortez was one of the highest profile targets of the very real and very violent attack on our capitol less than a year ago. now, gosar has had all week to apologize for the video. but he hasn't. instead he's put out memes mocking democrats for caring about it. god forbid anyone be concerned about animosity toward one of their own colleagues. again, it doesn't matter where congressman gosar's head is on this, because it's not his call whether his actions have consequences. joining me is congresswoman jackie speier, one of the lead sponsors of today's resolution calling for the censure of congressman paul gosar. congresswoman, thank you for being with us tonight. we haven't really talkeabout the fact that you've actually been a real victim of violence, in 1978, you were shot several times on the tarmac in jonestown. you take this stuff -- everybody should take this seriously, but this is not a moment in time that seems appropriate for anime cartoons depicting the killing of a member of congress. >> ali, thank you for raising this issue tonight, because silence equals taci

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and i think we heard from congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez yesterday in the house. she is the one depicted in the animated video put out by congressman gosar, the republican from arizona. she's the victim in the video. and she gave a very plaintive cry on the house floor to speaker mccarthy saying, why is it so hard to say something is wrong? gu he didn't do that. he played whataboutism. and that's following the lead of donald trump. and this is just the latest example of just how tight trump's grip is on the republican party. >> well, garrett, just button this down for a moment before i want to bring in kristin and talk about the president's huge agenda today and whether or not that matches up with what people really care about right now on the economy. but garrett, another point about kevin mccarthy. >> andrea, as i was hearing your question to jonathan, i was reminded that mccarthy was asked about trump today at that same press conference and said, in fact, that the former president called him this morning from the golf course, when reporters pressed mccarthy abo

he's not apologizing to alexandria ocasio-cortez. not apologizing to president biden. and the one thing that i will say i would watch, because you saw it happen with marjorie taylor greene is after she got stripped of his committees, she made a ton of money in fund-raising. so they get this name in the news and then it's a self-perpetuating cycle of they then also get bigger platforms. >> now, professor freeman, your book is an incredible book. i had you on my podcast, why is this happening, to talk about it. it's about congress and threats of violence that sort of hung over the entire body, particularly in the run-up to the civil war. given that as this academic work you have done, what do you see -- what do you think when you see this gosar video, when you see people saying it's a joke, just a video, yada yada yada. does that scan to you? >> no. i mean, essentially, it's easy to dismiss that and say, well, it's not a real act of violence. that it's, you know, only a video. but looking back to the 1850s, what you see is threats like that don't have to be violent to ha

or alexandria ocasio-cortez. the reason that's important is because we have a first amendment that sadly protects some pretty rotten speech. so yes, law enforcement should make sure that neither of those individuals, kathy griffin or representative gosar were explicitly threatening violence in a credible way. what we're talking about is the normalization in our political dialogue of images of violence. if that's okay and it's not. people need to start saying that loud and clear starting with kevin mccarthy. >> have you heard anything from kevin mccarthy? >> he's not checking in with me on this issue. >> nothing to say about mr. gosar. nothing. >> we've been tolerating this stuff, somebody's going to get killed. >> i hate to even say this out loud, but i fear the same thing. congressman jim himes, thank you for spending time with us. >>> president biden has begun the selling of his huge infrastructure package with republicans fuelling culture wars and punishing those who voted for the package, how does this presid

does he need to act on his fantasy for alexandria ocasio-cortez? i am concerned for she and other members and this is absolutely unacceptable. i do not understand it. >> so why does kevin mccarthy see his hold on power dependent on allowing paul gosar to do these things? >> this is where we have to turn the mirror back on american society, because there's some people in america who find this appealing, right. i think that's the deeper question. that's the kind of thing that i discuss in my research in the book, because it is not just paul gosar. it is that people like paul gosar in the republican party. he has a base. so i think we need to acknowledge not just that this person has been able to seek and obtain power, but actually that the backlash from his own base isn't there. so what does that say about us, right? i say "us" in the sense of a subset of the u.s. population, not all of it. i think it is important to understand there are dynamics going on in the united states that are rewarding these kinds of behaviors. so if leaders aren't willing t

congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez focused on exactly that issue when former trump lawyer, michael cohen, testified to the house oversight committee two years ago. >> to your knowledge did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> who else knows the president did this. >> alan weisselberg, rob leiberman. >> do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them? >> yes. we funded it through trump org. >> and that is something a grand jury would know how to do. "the washington post" reports that the second grand jury was expected to hear evidence for the very first time today. the first manhattan grand jury investigating donald trump and his business returned indictments of tax fraud against donald trump's company and his chief financial officer, alan weisselberg. we'll have more on the new grand jury investigation, which will be led by the newly elected manhattan district attorney later in this hour. we begin tonight with the most absurd federal court hearing in history on the issue of presidential e

and paul gosar showing a video appearing to kill alexandria ocasio cortez. there has been deafening silence from the gop. that's because president trump is setting the precedent -- listen to this recording. >> but the law is coming for trump and his associates showing how the justice sis system is meant to work. steve bannon is to turn himself in monday. if convicted, he could be jailed. mark meadows could be next as he failed to testify before the committee. >> what are you accusing rob rosenstein of? >> we have asked for documents for nine months. what we found is that not only subpoenas have been ignored, information has been hidden and efforts stone walled. for us it's about transparency so the american people can judge for themselves. they may be able to ignore congress, but they can't ignore the american people. >> that's what it is all about for them, transparency. i am joined now by these three msnbc contributors. this is a warning to others about the consequences of not cooperating with the january 6 committee. will it work? >> i hope so. i think th

paul gosar depicted himself killing alexandria ocasio-cortez and wounding president biden in a cartoon. gosar has not apologized. 60 house democrats moved to censuregosar on friday. listen. >> it is so important for us to not normalize this kind of conduct. that's what has been happening. the fact that the minority leader has yet to say anything to condemn it is tacid approval. >> joining me now is the washington post columnist. jennifer, thank you for joining me right now. i want to ask you, this is the conversation that jay rosen spoke about in the opinion piece in the new york times. he was saying how the conversations we're having among the republican party are so asymmetrical to what is happening. jennifer, you are a republican, correct me if i'm wrong, but steve schmidt who is no longer. and also george will. you have a group of republicans who are sounding the alarm that what is happening right now among the upper echelon of power and increasingly in the lower areas of elected government from scoreboards and so forth is asymmetrical to what the party stands for. how can we talk

some did not, including alexandria ocasio-cortez and a few others in the progressive caucus, but does this give you hope for bipartisanship on the hill? >> you know, we work together a lot more than people think we do. i say that all the time, but i know republicans say that also. if you look at bills that come out of committees, a lot of them are bipartisan, but hopefully this is a first step. the infrastructure bill came to us in a bipartisan way also. we do work together more than people think. >> congressman, on that note, what do you want voters to take away from this. democrats got a lot of heat for the way the sausage was made. it was a necessary and transparent process, but, really, the republicans were, by and large, not involved. when voters are thinking about the midterms and what party they want to have control of next year, what do you hope they take away from this process? >> i hope they take away that we give room for people to disagree, but, also, all of us come together at the end to get things done. again, we're all democrats, but we don't have to agree always. the b

do you think congresswoman alexandria ocasio cortez is safe? >> listen, we have threats each and every day. we face this all of the time. what's important is that we understand that we are not going to tolerate this. it's shameful what happened on january 6th. this was an attempted coup in trying to dismantle our democracy and prevent the peaceful transfer of power. i too was on the floor and had to evacuate. it was terror attack. domestic terrorism. the country has to come to grips with the fact that there are those out there who are perpetrating and promoting violence. and we all have to be vigilant. we have to understand what's out there. but we are not going to let it keep us from doing our job. we are going to speak out for justice. we are going to speak out for our people. we are going to do the job people sent us here to do. it is a shame and disgrace that we have to do it in this kind of environment of hate and of potential violence. we are not going to let that deter us.believe you me we understand what the risks are and hopefully repu

arizona republican congressman paul gosar posted a clip of an aname video of him killing alexandria ocasio-cortez and it features a character with gosar's face killing ocasio-cortez and slashing the face of president biden. it been flagged by twitter for hateful content but been allowed to remain on the site. house speaker nancy pelosi condemned on the video and called for mccarthy to do the same and called on the ethics committee to investigate. all indications point to mccarthy doing what he's always done, nothing. he's turned a blind eye to gosar's other anticscertifying biden and one of three republican congressman that helped him plan the rally ahead of the january 6th insurrection. gosar is so unhinged that in 2018 six of his siblings cut an ad endorsing his opponent and have since pushed to have him ex -- expelled from congress in part because of his involvement with january 6th. for her part, congresswoman ocasio-cortez noted it's the latest in a stream of threats against and harassment of her by republicans. she called gosar a creepy member who fund raises with neo nazis saying he'll fac

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alexandria ocasio-cortez addressed the video and posed today official house account that depicted him killing ocasio-cortez and turning knives on biden. she

it was a hand fisted reference to the tax rich dress that alexandria casio-cortez wore. it was actually meant to raise awarenessai for an actual polic intended to help the middle and working class. all your desk did is raise awareness of how little class you actually have. there's florida kmang matt gates. listen to what he said at a campaign event in florida. >> is it c 4 that they want to put in those mettle detectors? >> he doubled down on his comments. you can't fant sies about big league up mettle detectors when can you. he retweeted and said she'd happily provide the explosives. really funny stuff, guys. super appropriate and not at all offensive to the people who were actually killed at the capitol less than a year ago. thisye one really had us scratching our heads. remember i told you about glenn youngkin's big win earlier. one person who help him written is his son. he's 17-year-old, unfortunately. fairfax county said his son tried to cast a ballot for his dad not once but twice. spokesperson for youngkin defending this statement writing in part, a 17-year-old k

congressman paul gosar of arizona for posting a video that depicted him killing new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. only two republicans voted in favor of censure. representatives liz cheney and adam kinzinger, also the only two on the january 6th committee. a propublicly ka report links donald trump jr.'s girlfriend to funding and organizing of the save america rally, just the latest sign that investigations into the investigation may be closing in on trump's inner circle. joining me, gwen moore, a member of house ways and means committee. thank you for being here. i want to start with you about a matter we talked about a lot, you are a representative from wisconsin, obviously emotions are running high in your state because of acquit alf kyle rittenhouse. you tweeted a system that legitimizes vigilante murder is deeply broken. your thoughts on the acquittal? >> well, you know, it was not unexpected. i don't know how many people were surprised by this particular verdict. but what comes to mind is something that a friend of mine, a defense attorney, now deceased once told me, and that

it shows an anime character with gosar's face depicting a killing of alexandria ocasio-cortez. we're not going to show it here. in a separate shot, he also slashes president biden with a weapon. the republican defended its posting and called it a, quote, syllabic cartoon. >>> still ahead, the number of young children getting vaccinated against coronavirus is ramping up. what the president's top covid adviser is saying about that. >>> plus we'll talk to a former prosecutor about yesterday's dramatic testimony in the kyle rittenhouse case and the possibility of a mistrial being granted. those stories and a check on the weather as we look at predawn washington, d.c. we'll be back in a few minutes. s i've lost count of how many asthma attacks i've had. but my nunormal with nucala? fewer asthma attacks. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop stero

the video depicts him clearly killing democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and attacking the president. we are not airing the video on this broadcast. we're going to show you a screen grab selected from it so you can see the nature of the video without further amplifying the imagined violence. aoc is on the left. that is after she is struck down by what is clearly the gosar character. he's in the middle as some sort of fighter. and then on the right there is the attack on the president there with two swords. we're talking about a sitting member of congress and the president of the united states. frequent viewers of "the beat" will know we do a lot of coverage about free speech which includes all kinds of rhetoric, but there is also a crime to encourage assassination or violence against the president. the courts, not the news, will figure out exactly where these lines are, but this is something really in the context of all the rising mounting, white supremacist violence in the united states. this is a congress ma who praised the january 6th insurrectionists. aoc noting he'

moments of his remarks so far have actually been the points where -- [inaudible] you had people like alexandria ocasio-cortez interrupt and wonder how long it was going to take for him to keep talking, as no one was listening. and [inaudible] to put masks back on. there are some daggers that we have heard from the republican party about inflation, that this was going to be the most expensive thanksgiving that voters had ever had. but again, you know, i think there are sounding message here has been one of him being here to stay. he has started laying down the markers for his run for speaker if republicans take back the house. this feels like it has less to do with build back better and more to do with the state of the republican party. >> jackie, how many people are in the gallery, we can't see this shot, do we have an idea? >> unfortunately we cannot bring cameras to where we are in the gallery. but there are around 20 to 30 reporters watching, looking at the body language. some members nodding off. again, texting. a lot of tensions. so we will be taking notes on the readout once that does com

you had people like alexandria ocasio-cortez andtime ryan interrupt leader mccarthy. tim ryan, we've seen him keep on talking. mccarthy has tried to drive home some daggers from the republican party about inflation, that this was going to be the most expensive thanksgiving that voters have ever had. but again, you know, i think the resounding message here has been one of he's here to stay. he's laying down the marker for this run for speaker next year if republicans take back the house. so it has less to do with build back better and more with the state of the the republican party. >> real quick, jackie. how many people are in the gallery? we can't see from this shot we're looking at. does anybody have any idea how long he's going to talk? >> we do not have an idea. unfortunately, we can't bring cameras to where we are in the gallery. but there are around 20 to 30 reporters watching, looking at the body language. some members nodding off, again, texting, a lot of tension. everyone taking really good notes for once he finishes. >> we'll keep an eye on that. in the mean

he's under fire for tweeting an an may video which shows him killing alexandria ocasio-cortez. his sister was on msnbc last night. >> i am absolutely beyond aghast at how much this man has gotten away with. i don't know what he would need to do for any one of those people in a, quote, leadership position to held him accountable and i must ask attorney general merrick garland where are you? >> as a member of the house, is he completely immune to any kind of action for things he does online? i know anything he says on the house floor is protected, but what about the secret service given his threats? >> the answer to that question is no, absolutely not. laws apply to members of congress the same way they apply to everyone else. the problem is when it comes to laws, particularly federal law that deals with threats being made, it is very vague. the u.s. supreme court has not set down a clear start for what constitutes threats or harassment. that means the justice department, if they do pursue an investigation here, it's really not clear exactly how they set that out. certainly if th

congressman paul gosar is facing censure of that cartoon figure of him stabbing alexandria ocasio-cortez to death. aoc is one of the most threatened members of congress. what kind of consequences do you think he should face? >> well, first of all, republicans have no guts whatsoever. gosar a white nationalist, white supremacist who is in congress. we know exactly what he is doing. but the fact that house minority leader kevin mccarthy is gutless and his party is gutless, i need everybody to understand the republican party has no problem with thugs like gosar being in congress, folks like marjorie taylor greene. this is who they are. and, so, democrats need to understand this is what you're dealing with. folks who have no shame, there is no bottom. he should be kicked out of congress. at the least he should be censured. but they're not going to do it, because, you know what? they are appealing to the people who gosar, who love what he's doing. they need their votes, and they understand that. they always understand it. he always understood that, and that's why you're not going to see any a

increasingly violent rhetoric from paul go sar, tweeting a cartoon video of him killing representative alexandria ocasio-cortez. to marjorie taylor greene revenge tweeting photos for who voted for infrastructure. is this a sense of what's to come if republicans win a house majority next year. let's break it down with jake sherman who apparently does not take any days off. jake, how do you explain house minority leader kevin mccarthy's silence here as members of his party are doing this? >> well, good morning, and mccarthy has one goal, it's to become speaker of the house. and anything that's a distraction in any way from that he's not going to engage in. and i have to imagine, and he's been out of the capital all week because congress has been in recess, but i have to imagine that over the next, you know, five, six, seven days when congress comes back into session he's going to be forced to ant those questions. go sar has removed the tweet and i have to imagine that congress is going to vote to censure mr. gosar which would have him stand in the middle of the well of the house of representatives

the committees that they were talking about stripping gosar off of is one he actually serves on with alexandria ocasio-cortez. censure pretty rare in congress. you don't see this very often. this creates the precedent for them to turn around, if and when they retake the majority in 2022, and start targeting democrats who they don't like what they say. looking at people like congresswoman maxine waters, for example. that's very much in this conversation, too. broadening it out and looking at the delicate dance that kevin mccarthy had to do over the course of the last few weeks and, frankly, doing this dance far longer in the trump era and this is a small scale example of what we're probably going to see starting in 2023, if and when house republicans retake the house because this dance is not going away any time soon. there are still parts of this caucus whether or not people want to call them clowning or what not who are not in line with other parts of the party unifying them is not super easy for mccarthy or frankly anyone else. >> you know, betsy, the reason i want to lead with this today is

arizona republican congressman over an animated video that shows him killing democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio o cortez and later attacking president biden with swords. he accused everyone of gross mischaracterization of his video. i do not espouse violence or harm towards any member of congress or mr. biden. the cartoon depicts the symbolic nature of a battle between lawful and unlawful policies and is no way intended to be a targeted attack against representative cortez or mr. biden. it is a symbolic cartoon. it is not real life. just a symbol. a cartoon. it isn't real life he says. you know what is real life? the trial of kyle rittenhouse in which closing arguments are expected tomorrow. this is the 18-year-old white man charged with intentional and reckless homicide and other crimes after fatally shooting two men and injuring a third who were protesting the shooting, police shooting of a black man in kenosha, wisconsin. today kyle's mother who drove him across state lines to the protest was asked by nbc news why he was even there in the first place. >> what do you say to people who

in the republican caucus of censuring or punishing paul gosar for tweeting a video in which he kills alexandria ocasio-cortez. they tried to link youngkin to trump and we saw it didn't work. >> yeah. cornell. >> i got to lean in on something michelle said because look, the crazies aside, look, you should worry every democrat that mitch mcconnell voted for this bill because let's be clear, ari. if mitch mcconnell thought for one second, and he's pretty good at political calculation, right, we say a lot about him, but he's good at political calculation. if he thought for one second that this was going to help democrats in the midterm, he would absolutely not have done it. so it should worry us that he said yeah, i'm going to vote for this bill. from the political point of view, if in fact republicans can claim credit for some things delivered from this bill which you know they want to do. as you reported, they were already sort of talking about taking credit for it, then they inoculate themselves from it and can turn back to the cultural wars which they think they're doing fairly well. to a certa

congressman gosar and his posting of an anime video showing him killing alexandria ocasio-cortez, don, what do you make of that? do you expect more than silence from the party leader? how is that demonstrating leadership? >> it's not demonstrating leadership. as a matter of fact it's a complete falter of leadership. to your question, do i expect more from kevin mccarthy, no. because kevin mccarthy has tacitly allowed this environment to go on and fester under his watch, not only his watch but the two previous speakers before him. if you think back to just when john boehner resigned, john boehner resigned because he could not coral the freedom caucus, and the freedom caucus is the locus of where a lot of this stuff started to fester. it goes back to 2010, and we could even go into political history and go before that. but with the rise of the freedom caucus, with the rise of these ideas not being immediately rebuked, the last ten or 11 years, and i feel terrible for fred upton. i've received death threats and bomb threats, it's never fun. but i didn't see fred upton stand up and protes