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joining me to discuss is former republican congressman joe walsh of illinois. he primaied donald trump as president in 2020. he's a book called "f silence" -- it's not really f on the book. we should note that joe is a conservative but he left the republican party last year. joe, thanks for joining us. >> nice to be with you. >> our new polling indicates this enthusiasm gap. republicans seem more enthusiastic right now than democrats do. is that in line with what you've been hearing? >> absolutely, ali. i speak with republican-based voters, i engage with them still by the hundreds every day, and they're fired up. look, this should be a wake-up call to democrats. ali, i want to correct you on one thing. there is not a fight in the republican party. there is not a fight for the heart and the soul of the party. it's trump's party. trump and trumpism 1. i know everybody says this, but i want to say it again this morning. it is a cult. that party that i belonged to my whole entire adult life until last year is a cult. if you don't support the cult leader, you have n
joining me to discuss is former republican congressman joe walsh of illinois. he primaied donald trump as president in 2020. he's a book called "f silence" -- it's not really f on the book. we should note that joe is a conservative but he left the republican party last year. joe, thanks for joining us. >> nice to be with you. >> our new polling indicates this enthusiasm gap. republicans seem more enthusiastic right now than democrats do. is that in line with what you've...
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congressman walsh said your former party is radicalized. can it be unradicalized? or is it too late? >> so two things. first, good morning to you both. joe, it's great to see you. joe may be a downer in his opinion, but i'm an optimist. i'll tell you why. it's because i've watched joe's evolution and if joe can go from a conservative person who was pro donald trump and open his eyes and over the last four years see where this was all headed, become a vocal critic, become one who is standing up for this country and this democracy, then others can do it too. to the second question as to whether or not this party can be saved, it cannot be saved. i've been saying this for a few years now. we were always going to end up here. what we should focus on now is not really having segments like this where we talk about what charles grassley who should retire is doing relative to donald trump. we should be focussed on building the next great new party of republicans like myself and joe and others who are centrist and conservatives who have common sense and believe in fiscal re
congressman walsh said your former party is radicalized. can it be unradicalized? or is it too late? >> so two things. first, good morning to you both. joe, it's great to see you. joe may be a downer in his opinion, but i'm an optimist. i'll tell you why. it's because i've watched joe's evolution and if joe can go from a conservative person who was pro donald trump and open his eyes and over the last four years see where this was all headed, become a vocal critic, become one who is...
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secretary of labor marty walsh, who is the, of course, the top official in charge of u.s. labor policy ex went to a picket line in lancaster, pennsylvania, today to show support for the kellogg's workers. he said this ahead of the trip. i grew up in a working class family. i am the son of immigrants and a proud second-generation capital laborer. i have always stood with america's working people. i will continue to do so as your secretary of labor. see you there. on the picket line, secretary marty walsh said these workers are exercising their right for free speech and to try to get better working conditions not just for them, but their families and the generations of people who going to come behind them. it might be different for a secretary of labor of the united states of america to come out and stand on a picket line, but he said workers need to understand that people stand with them and i want them to know as secretary of labor i will stand with them. according to our local affiliate there in pennsylvania, secretary walsh even joined the picket line himself at one poin
secretary of labor marty walsh, who is the, of course, the top official in charge of u.s. labor policy ex went to a picket line in lancaster, pennsylvania, today to show support for the kellogg's workers. he said this ahead of the trip. i grew up in a working class family. i am the son of immigrants and a proud second-generation capital laborer. i have always stood with america's working people. i will continue to do so as your secretary of labor. see you there. on the picket line, secretary...
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when mayor marty walsh resigned to become joe biden's labor secretary, a diverse slate of candidates jumped into the wide open race, the top six all identifying as people of color, three of them black. kim janie, john barrows, and district 4 city councillor andrea campbell who was endorsed by the "boston globe" but none of the three made it through the primaries. >> boston was on the cusp of possibly for the first time voting in a black man or a black woman as mayor, but it fell short. why? >> turnout was abysmal. i was growing up, and not seeing someone in the office who looked like me. i want to see that not in just the mayor's office in other positions across the commonwealth. >> our tour guide see it as -- >> there isn't a clear way for blacks and bostonians to clearly aggregate political power and wield it in this city. >> reporter: even though campbell won't be declaring victory on tuesday she says it is still a milestone we are celebrating. >> it is hi historic, a beautiful thing. we are going to be electing a woman for the first time in this city. we should celebrate that. >>
when mayor marty walsh resigned to become joe biden's labor secretary, a diverse slate of candidates jumped into the wide open race, the top six all identifying as people of color, three of them black. kim janie, john barrows, and district 4 city councillor andrea campbell who was endorsed by the "boston globe" but none of the three made it through the primaries. >> boston was on the cusp of possibly for the first time voting in a black man or a black woman as mayor, but it fell...
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also joe walsh, former republican congressman who's the host of white flag with joe walsh. good morning and thereins for being with us. you know, taryn, this case is uncharted territory as regards to exertion of executive privilege. what are we going to see this week? >> i think we're going to see different things. one thing we've seen every time when it comes to trump and his ability to try to keep things secret if you will is he's ready for a fight. i think you're going the hear him be quite vocal this week and from his team, quite vocal about once again the injust tense of him not being able to execute executive privilege of trying to overtake the government on january 6th. so i do expect there to be a bit of a dog fight. i think from the other side we're expecting them obviously to subpoena him and i suspect -- if he cooperates, it would be a less public thing. but i think it's going to be more of a -- again, more fireworks on that side as well. it will be an interesting week for sure as we uncover what exactly happened in the days leading up to january 6th. >> and, joe
also joe walsh, former republican congressman who's the host of white flag with joe walsh. good morning and thereins for being with us. you know, taryn, this case is uncharted territory as regards to exertion of executive privilege. what are we going to see this week? >> i think we're going to see different things. one thing we've seen every time when it comes to trump and his ability to try to keep things secret if you will is he's ready for a fight. i think you're going the hear him be...
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joining me is joan walsh and author of "white evangelical racism" the politics of morality in america. i want to start with you, joan, on this. that 2019 article that i'll tweet out and recommend everybody take a look at it because it makes that connection between this sort of, you know, they're all coming to get us white genocide replacement theory, anti raciest theory and they're attitude toward women where they say, you know, our women aren't doing their job and therefore they need to be controlled, constantly controlled so we have these candidates running and two of them have trump's backing. a woman who had an affair said he sexual assaulted her and black maleded her with nude photos. sean parnell, the leading republican candidate in pennsylvania twice took out temporary production. the ex-wife of herschel walker claimed in divorce records he was physically abusive and threatened to murder her. they have trump's endorsement. your thoughts? >> well, i think the replacement theory, joy, is the perfect intersection of racism and i was with you when we heard those nazis in khakis cha
joining me is joan walsh and author of "white evangelical racism" the politics of morality in america. i want to start with you, joan, on this. that 2019 article that i'll tweet out and recommend everybody take a look at it because it makes that connection between this sort of, you know, they're all coming to get us white genocide replacement theory, anti raciest theory and they're attitude toward women where they say, you know, our women aren't doing their job and therefore they need...
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joan walsh is a national affairs correspondent for the nation. she is an adviser to the democratic congressional campaign committee and the contributor to the l.a.. times great to have all three of you. so i'd like to start with you. the two month that feeling is session was made possible this week, obviously when you had senate to mitch mcconnell, you know managed to cough up together 11 republicans to end the filibuster. yet former president trump, he's been urging to oppose any debt ceiling and last night as you can expect, at an rally blasted mcconnell and his 11th colleague, let me play that for you. >> and to think that we had 11 republicans go along with an extension headed up by mitch mcconnell. and you know what it does, it gives the democrats more time to figure it out. they can now have two more months to figure out how to scare us. >> so besides the fact that the hypocrisy on the republican side about the issue genuinely the debt ceiling is absolutely ridiculous how hypocritical they are. in the current political climate. even with mi
joan walsh is a national affairs correspondent for the nation. she is an adviser to the democratic congressional campaign committee and the contributor to the l.a.. times great to have all three of you. so i'd like to start with you. the two month that feeling is session was made possible this week, obviously when you had senate to mitch mcconnell, you know managed to cough up together 11 republicans to end the filibuster. yet former president trump, he's been urging to oppose any debt ceiling...
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. >> leading off our discussion tonight is joe biden's labor secretary marty walsh, thank you very much for joining us tonight, mister secretary, really appreciated. >> thank you lawrence, thanks for having me tonight, so the president was hoping for a bill signing ceremony on the infrastructure bill, you didn't get that vote today, what is the presidents next expectation. he didn't get the vote today, what does he want now from the congress? >> i think the president said today he would like to see this bill pass, if i heard correctly, in his words, within a week. i think there's many of opportunities for us to get this bill passed, today was a day in the process of a democratic process. and certainly we had a good progress today. i look at it that way. we have two bills now. we know exactly what they are. we know the investment that we made in the american people. we know the investments made in housing and childcare. in adults, and child training. we already know very clearly on the physical infrastructure, the roads and bridges and waterways. now you just have a few more days here to
. >> leading off our discussion tonight is joe biden's labor secretary marty walsh, thank you very much for joining us tonight, mister secretary, really appreciated. >> thank you lawrence, thanks for having me tonight, so the president was hoping for a bill signing ceremony on the infrastructure bill, you didn't get that vote today, what is the presidents next expectation. he didn't get the vote today, what does he want now from the congress? >> i think the president said...
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and the pick atlanta, day secretary marty walsh said, these workers are exercising the rate for free speech, and to try to get better working conditions, not just for them but for their families in for the generations of people who will come behind them, it might be a little different for the secretary of labor of the united states of america, to come out and stand on a picket line, but he said, workers need to understand that people stand with them, and i want them to know as secretary of labor, i will stand with them. according to our local affiliate there in pennsylvania, secretary walsh even joined the picket line himself, at one, point marching with the workers, as they demanded a better deal. this recent remarkable wave of big groups of americans, going out on strike and demanding better wages, better working conditions, safer working positions, this is really something the u.s. has not seen in a long time. but, cabinet members, from the current presidential administration, openly showing up and showing support for people out on strike, that's something we have not seen, as far
and the pick atlanta, day secretary marty walsh said, these workers are exercising the rate for free speech, and to try to get better working conditions, not just for them but for their families in for the generations of people who will come behind them, it might be a little different for the secretary of labor of the united states of america, to come out and stand on a picket line, but he said, workers need to understand that people stand with them, and i want them to know as secretary of...
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want to play for you some of what texas state representative jasmine crockett said earlier with nicole walsh. >> it's sad that literally i have to laugh to keep from crying, right? and so, but i'm looking forward to is for aggression out of the u.s. senate, we have to expend the court and we have to get rid of the filibuster, these are the only ways that we are going to start to have some semblance of normalcy in this country, the fact that the supreme court is acting like this is an issue that we have to isolate, they're acting like roe v. wade it didn't take place before i was ever even born, that is a problem. >> so, susan, here's the question, provided votes will be cast and counted in 2022, can democrats get out of their own way and actually run successfully and in congressional elections on the right to choice? >> well, a lot will depend on what the supreme court does say and how they roll on the cases as well as the other cases that are coming up in alabama i believe. it is going to be essential but democrats have never gotten their act together as far as using the courts as a way of
want to play for you some of what texas state representative jasmine crockett said earlier with nicole walsh. >> it's sad that literally i have to laugh to keep from crying, right? and so, but i'm looking forward to is for aggression out of the u.s. senate, we have to expend the court and we have to get rid of the filibuster, these are the only ways that we are going to start to have some semblance of normalcy in this country, the fact that the supreme court is acting like this is an...
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jameel smith, joan walsh and kerb katella. great to have you with us. joan, i would like to start with you. the two month dead ceiling -- debt ceiling -- they cobbled together 11 republicans to end the filibuster. former president trump had been urging them to oppose a debt ceiling. last night, at an iowa rally, he blasted mcconnell. let me play that for you. >> to think we had 11 republicans go along with an. tension. headed up by mitch mcconnell. it gives the democrats more time. two months. the more time to figure it out. they can now have two more months to figure out how to screw us. >> besides the fact that the hypocrisy on the republican side about the issue of the debt ceiling is absolutely -- it's absolutely ridiculous how rip critical they are. in the current political climate, even with mitch mcconnell saying he will not help the democrats out, is there any chance it gets done in the next 54 days? >> if the democrats can do it alone. i was actually a little bit unhappy to see this postponement of the debt ceiling confrontation. it's very clea
jameel smith, joan walsh and kerb katella. great to have you with us. joan, i would like to start with you. the two month dead ceiling -- debt ceiling -- they cobbled together 11 republicans to end the filibuster. former president trump had been urging them to oppose a debt ceiling. last night, at an iowa rally, he blasted mcconnell. let me play that for you. >> to think we had 11 republicans go along with an. tension. headed up by mitch mcconnell. it gives the democrats more time. two...
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tori taylor is a political strategist, lucy caldwell he's a former campaign manager for joe walsh who ran for the presidential repugnant nomination on 2012, frequent guest of this show. tori, let's start with. you we have the reporting josh lederman of, nancy pelosi says 90%, their mansion says not so much. do you think it is likely that democrats get both deals done this week? and if you are advising them, what are you telling them? >> yes. i think we are really close. we are a big tent party with a lot of points of view. we need consensus, and to get this across the line. there are a lot of different ways to get this in play. last year, democrats outlined a bold forward looking vision for one they were elected, that is what we need to deliver. i think the biden administration is going to deliver this pure investment to infrastructure, roads and bridges, as well as key economic and human infrastructure policy like paid leave and childcare. these policies are going to get people back to work, care for their families and be the cornerstone for a good economic recovery, good economic re
tori taylor is a political strategist, lucy caldwell he's a former campaign manager for joe walsh who ran for the presidential repugnant nomination on 2012, frequent guest of this show. tori, let's start with. you we have the reporting josh lederman of, nancy pelosi says 90%, their mansion says not so much. do you think it is likely that democrats get both deals done this week? and if you are advising them, what are you telling them? >> yes. i think we are really close. we are a big tent...
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and joy walsh. >> it is a good thing for this country if we get major investments in people's ability to work, so get good quality health care and child care, all the things president biden is speaking to. what we have to recognize is the only thing we're not getting everything that americans deserve, because frankly, community college is something americans deserve. getting more child care in places like west virginia which, frankly, has the largest number of women out of the workforce because they either can't get -- can't afford child care or can't get to a child care center. these things are major issues. frankly, women and women of color are deeply impacted. i think the reality is, we have two people, two people, and i call them sineman, but basically who said we're going to hold a national agenda, not even a democratic party agenda as biden says, but a national agenda, hostage to whatever our own political ends are in this debate, but frankly, everyone was going to benefit from this, and i highlighted housing. one of the greatest crises we had, both before the pandemic, where we
and joy walsh. >> it is a good thing for this country if we get major investments in people's ability to work, so get good quality health care and child care, all the things president biden is speaking to. what we have to recognize is the only thing we're not getting everything that americans deserve, because frankly, community college is something americans deserve. getting more child care in places like west virginia which, frankly, has the largest number of women out of the workforce...
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2011, one detective ken mifflin walked into the office of summit county ohio prosecutor sherri bevan walsh. >> i actually still remember when detective ken mifflin came to my office, and he was basically asking for my assistance to file a motion to exhumed the body and reopen the case. he was pretty confident it was not a suicide, and this was a murder. >> my guess is you guys have plenty of open cases that are, as of that moment, unsolved? you probably didn't need one in a closed file reopened right away? >> we have, unfortunately, a lot of homicides in summit county, ohio, and we were probably, i would estimate at that time, already working on another 50 homicide cases when the detective from stow came to us and said, hey, i have a really old case i want you to consider presenting to the grand jury. >> but evidence did the detective have? well, almost none beyond a few old autopsy photos. and a theory of what had happened. the only physical evidence, if any existed, would involve meg purk's body. so, if this case was to go forward, meg would have to be exhumed. >> deciding to dig up a bo
2011, one detective ken mifflin walked into the office of summit county ohio prosecutor sherri bevan walsh. >> i actually still remember when detective ken mifflin came to my office, and he was basically asking for my assistance to file a motion to exhumed the body and reopen the case. he was pretty confident it was not a suicide, and this was a murder. >> my guess is you guys have plenty of open cases that are, as of that moment, unsolved? you probably didn't need one in a closed...
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the vice president and labor secretary marty walsh are expected to announce new guidelines today. we've been waiting for these. what should we expect? >> yes, they are. we got a first look. my colleague hans nichols, he learned that the vice president and labor secretary will announce new guidelines for unions. they're encouraging federal workers to unionize and make sure they learn about their rights to do so. it's interesting. there's more than, you know, 2.1 million federal workers, non-postal federal employees, i would say. only roughly 20% of them belong to a union. so part of this push is to make sure, not only that people, you know, recognize that they can unionize, but also encourage them. the new guidelines, one of them will be to require that federal agencies educate new hires on their rights to unionize. then also ensure that those existing employees have, you know, straight communication from their employers on the availability of these unions. so we'll see them lay that out today at the white house. >> also, we of course are waiting for guidelines from osha regarding
the vice president and labor secretary marty walsh are expected to announce new guidelines today. we've been waiting for these. what should we expect? >> yes, they are. we got a first look. my colleague hans nichols, he learned that the vice president and labor secretary will announce new guidelines for unions. they're encouraging federal workers to unionize and make sure they learn about their rights to do so. it's interesting. there's more than, you know, 2.1 million federal workers,...
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the secretary of labor marty walsh and i have been speaking out on this from earlier this year. we've got to deal with deep issues in our infrastructure, these shorter-term measures are really not going to be enough. that's why we have things like the infrastructure bill, like the build back better plan that are really going to set up america for success in the long term. >> i understand that. we've got a short-term problem here. look, most of our ports are out of date technologically. it would be great to sort of build some new ports, but some of these things take time. what you're describing takes time. it doesn't mean there's going to be gifts on the shelves to buy for christmas this december. it sounds like what you're setting up the country for is do you agree -- do you concur this is going to get worse before it gets better? >> what i can tell you is we're doing everything we can for the shorted term and the long term. there's some x factors out there on everything from, you know, pandemic-related closures of factories and ports in asia to things going on through the chain
the secretary of labor marty walsh and i have been speaking out on this from earlier this year. we've got to deal with deep issues in our infrastructure, these shorter-term measures are really not going to be enough. that's why we have things like the infrastructure bill, like the build back better plan that are really going to set up america for success in the long term. >> i understand that. we've got a short-term problem here. look, most of our ports are out of date technologically. it...
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. >> this is john walsh from "in pursuit." doctor, thank you for your time. i think that everybody in the world believes that brian laundrie killed gabby. with your work on the body, are you sure that it is brian laundrie and will the fbi issue a nationwide homicide warrant now that they know the cause of death? >> we are only tasked with the determination of cause of manner of death. who committed the homicide is up to law enforcement. and i cannot answer the question about the fbi. you would have to contact them. >> hello, doctor. if you could please -- can you comment on any other bruising, maybe on the body that possibly was healing, possibly older bruises or cuts that might have been healing over the past couple weeks before her passing? >> there is no other information about the autopsy that is released, just the cause of death. >> and this is a reporter at abc action news in tampa, florida. i just wanted to know if you could explain why it took about a month for this process to finish. i think a lot of people were hoping that they would learn this info
. >> this is john walsh from "in pursuit." doctor, thank you for your time. i think that everybody in the world believes that brian laundrie killed gabby. with your work on the body, are you sure that it is brian laundrie and will the fbi issue a nationwide homicide warrant now that they know the cause of death? >> we are only tasked with the determination of cause of manner of death. who committed the homicide is up to law enforcement. and i cannot answer the question...
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want to bring in two people who have been studying the detrimental effect of fox news for years, joan walsh where she's written about the damaging impact fox has on our nation's health and eric boelert. he monitors right-wing propaganda in the post trump world. eric, let me start with you. there's an important point about the landscape of american politics. people watching this show most likely consume a lot of different media from a lot of different places. they maybe listen to pr, read newspapers and we have pew data to back this up. if you're talking about democrats, here are things used by one third of democrats, abc news, nbc news, cbs news, msnbc. republicans it's just fox. basically 40% of the country, there is a monopoly of information on those folks. >> yeah. i mean it's one-stop shopping. yes, there's oan, yes, there's newsmax, yes, they have splintered off even farther, farther right. when you talk about propaganda, it's so much more effective if there's only one place to go and fox news has created that. the history you gave was dead on. you hit all the key points. the recount,
want to bring in two people who have been studying the detrimental effect of fox news for years, joan walsh where she's written about the damaging impact fox has on our nation's health and eric boelert. he monitors right-wing propaganda in the post trump world. eric, let me start with you. there's an important point about the landscape of american politics. people watching this show most likely consume a lot of different media from a lot of different places. they maybe listen to pr, read...
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joining me now, white house correspondent for pbs news hour, yamish and steve schmidt and joan walsh. i wish we had time to turn around my chitchat from aunt gloria. the message she kept hammering home, the president needs a win, democrats need a win otherwise the republicans are going to come back into power. i would love for all of you to just go down the line and react to that. because i do think there is something there among the democratic party faithful. it's like they don't care so much about the sausage making. do you care about the price tag? do you care about the provisions? she's like, just get something done. joan, you go first. joan. >> yeah, i would like to see them get something done. i think they very much have to get something done for joe biden and to keep their majorities, to have a prayer keeping the house majority next year, jonathan. on the other hand, i'm nervous. climate change legislation, what is that? we know they got rid of the electric grid modernization. what are the climate change provisions? are they serious enough to meet those challenges that we have?
joining me now, white house correspondent for pbs news hour, yamish and steve schmidt and joan walsh. i wish we had time to turn around my chitchat from aunt gloria. the message she kept hammering home, the president needs a win, democrats need a win otherwise the republicans are going to come back into power. i would love for all of you to just go down the line and react to that. because i do think there is something there among the democratic party faithful. it's like they don't care so much...
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pat walsh was a young deputy sheriff at the time. >> one of the time of the people that saw the oil in the lake was a pilots. in so he informs the deputies at that time, that that is not oil from a boat motor. >> i was going to say. there's lots of votes in that. lake >> he said that's not oil from about one or. >> so what? there had been rumors of smugglers around here from time to time. a smugglers airplane did it land on the lake? and then take off again? >> how can an airplane go down in a lake without anybody hearing? >> probably would not have made much more than a splashing noise. and if you are in a cabin on the shore, if you hear splashed, it's not going to be anything to you. >> then people around the, lake heard about the young stranger, and wondered, are these incidents somehow related? jim and john remember that the guy was carrying a duffel bag, wrapped in green plastic. in when they return from the store and gave him those matches, he whipped a fire, and guess what he did. >> he started to burn, they were probably maps. they just looked like newspapers. and then it went
pat walsh was a young deputy sheriff at the time. >> one of the time of the people that saw the oil in the lake was a pilots. in so he informs the deputies at that time, that that is not oil from a boat motor. >> i was going to say. there's lots of votes in that. lake >> he said that's not oil from about one or. >> so what? there had been rumors of smugglers around here from time to time. a smugglers airplane did it land on the lake? and then take off again? >> how...
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. >> joining me now is my sunday soundoff panel, tara setmayer, joan walsh, national affairs correspondent for the nation and anna palmer, founder and ceo of punch bowl news. thank you all very much for coming back to "the sunday show." anna, i'm going to start with you. bring us up to speed on where things are. friday was bananas in terms of the bipartisan bill, the reconciliation bill, the press's visit. she's very bullish. we will get this done. are they going to get this done? >> i think time will only tell. one thing that is important is you do have positive body language from most democrats right now. you've had the president come to capitol hill. a lot of people wonder is he going to use the bully pulpit, is he going to force democrats to come together on this bipartisan infrastructure package? he didn't. he basically was a rallying cry around both the infrastructure as well as the reconciliation package. right now there isn't a time line that we now have. the speaker has said that she wants bipartisan infrastructure, the bill to pass by the end of the month because that's when the
. >> joining me now is my sunday soundoff panel, tara setmayer, joan walsh, national affairs correspondent for the nation and anna palmer, founder and ceo of punch bowl news. thank you all very much for coming back to "the sunday show." anna, i'm going to start with you. bring us up to speed on where things are. friday was bananas in terms of the bipartisan bill, the reconciliation bill, the press's visit. she's very bullish. we will get this done. are they going to get this...