kevin, maybe you could give a little bit of what it actually needs. i think it is a little hard to get your head around. my understanding is, it's essentially an immersive virtual worlds in which you interact with other people and maybe there's a we hear that you physically interact as well as virtually? as virtual>> yes, it's a little confusing. the meeting has shifted over time. the original concept was coined in a novel by neil stevenson. a sci-fi novel called snow crash, decades ago. it basically was this immersive virtual world where you bark virtual goods and had virtual avatars and went to virtual parties. it was this immersive virtual world,. the way facebook is using it is a little confusing. but it means the are and glasses that you would wear that would protect things on the environment in front of you. the ability to seamlessly flow between talking with your friends and going to a concert in the er, talking to dinosaurs and whatever else you would be encountering there. but this is basically their catch all term for things that are new to

now he is talking about the future like kevin wrote. you know, it's got a lot of -- i thought it had a lot of aol vibes back in the day when they were trying to seem relevant. microsoft has done this before when they were in trouble and here we are again with facebook. >> yeah, that point about the future. kevin, you wrote -- you have been writing -- obviously, we had the facebook papers and there is all this reporting about it. you know, this is an amazingly powerful company. mark zuckerburg is an astoundedly powerful person. he makes calls about election disinformation in spanish and where are we on the ethnic cleansing that's happening in burma? it's astounding to imagine it. your counterintuitive take was the paper showed weakness, showed desperation on the part. company, and i could smell that coming off this video a little bit. explain why you wrote that. >> the whole video sort of seemed like facebook's like mid-life crisis, like it's trying to say we are not the same old facebook you have known. we are cool now. we dyed our hair

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. >> i want to play you something senator kevin claimer said, about all this, i think that people have noted this, before and it continues to be, true that in the aftermath of a violent attempts, to overturn the election. with an angry crowd chanting hang mike pence, having erected a gallows outside the capitol, that some members were shaken, understandably, but i think a lot of republican members of sort of moved, on an as long as the crowd is, not in their ear chanting hang mike pence at that moment,, they preferred and i think about, eight years with kevin, kramer senate republican had to say about today's vote on bannon. >> i actually think the whole commission is a bit irrelevant, i don't see bannon being, i frankly don't know how many people are paying attention to it. there are very many people paying attention to the january six commission. >> is paying attention the point here, what is the point? >> the point is that the rule of all needs to be observed, and it's surprising to hear senators, talk so blindly about an attack on our capital that resulted in the deaths of american

kevin drum highlights one example of fox leading the party in that great mother jones piece. starting in march fox mentioned critical race theory 1300 times in the space of three months. by -- all this brings us back to our presenting moment where every day as we continue to chronicle on this show, fox news is pushing out a constant stream of public health misinformation that is getting people sick, getting them into the hospital, getting them killed, and prolonging this pandemic. it's unconscionably dark. it's the darkest, most extreme logical conclusion you can imagine for where this entire enterprise would end up. you've got these phenomenally rich, elite fox hosts sitting in their little studios under the lights with hair and makeup and expensive clothes working for a company that mandates either vaccines or daily testing regime, precisely the policy they're railing against. they won't say that. they won't say anything about their bosses because they're too cowardly. instead what they're doing is pushing poison into people's brains that gets them sick. this is where both

. >> i want to play something something kevin cramer said. i think people noted this for and it continues to be true, that in the aftermath of a violent attempt to overturn the election with an angry crowd chanting "hang mike pence" outside the capitol that some members were shaken, understandably. i think a lot of republican members have sort of moved and and as long as the crowd isn't their ear chanting "hang mike pence" at that moment they prefer not to say it. senate republican kevin cramer, what he had to say about today's vote on bannon. >> i actually think the whole commission is a bit irrelevant. i don't see steve bannon being all that -- frankly, i don't know how many people are paying attention it. there aren't that many people paying attention to the january 6th commission. what is the point? >> well, the point is that the rule of law needs to be observed. it's surprising to hear senators talk that way about an attack on our capitol that resulted in the deaths of americans, the beating of police officers. but also essentially under

especially if kevin mccarthy is speaker of the house in the lead up to the 2024 election. given everything we saw, we can't trust my own party to lead the house of representatives in the lead up to 2024. >> you just said you fielded angry phone calls. who was left that's persuadable on this? when you write a piece in the "new york times," i'm glad you did. are there people in the persuadable middle in the echelons of the republican party who are open to seeing this or is everyone is polarized in the maga or never trumper world? >> no one's ever asked me that question and i think the answer is clear. there are few republicans left to be persuaded. there's no question that the maga side and the gop civil war. that's not what's significant here for what we're discussing. what's significant is that there are actually, even though it's a smaller group, millions of rational republicans. what i call the rational remnants of the gop who are a relatively silent cohort, but who also did throw the last election in large part for joe biden and who still can be mobilized in these key r

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of course the whole thing fell apart, one republican leader kevin mccarthy pulled all the nominations. again, nails was not in the crazy category. he was not in the category of republican members of congress, like jim jordan no gains in marjorie greene. yet here is now. on this far right station. contributing to the martyrdom of ashley babbitt who lost her life by accusing the capitol police of murder, for firing the gun under the conditions he explicitly said were justified. congressman nails has been battling the mob, to being in apologize for. >> how could that shooting be justified? is there any way to justify that? >> no. greg, it was murder. >> there is no struggling the line between supporting insurrection and supporting democracy. no middle ground there, day by day, one by one, republicans all fall in line. they moved from the democracy camp to the insurrection, camp under the exhaustible pressure of political expedience, or genuine personal radicalization, and it's hard to say which is worse. lana sure is a congress editor for politico or she oversees coverage of this republi

given that kevin mccarthy was whipping the vote very hard, to try to get everybody on the side of not issuing the criminal contempt referral from bannon. so, i was pleased that there are both a number of people on the republican side who had voted to impeach donald trump, also in this group, but there are also some new ones like nancy maze from south carolina who is my counterpart on the oversight subcommittee on civil rights and several liberties. she just said she believes in the rule of law, and how can congress, with a straight face, go forward in ever issue is subpoenas again, if we're not gonna see anybody else subpoenaed. some more power to these people who stood by the rule of law. >> yeah, nancy made statement basically making a point, which i thought it was a good one, if you have a privilege you want to assert, an immunity want to assert, you've got to come down and assert it. that the sort of going out of his way to, as i think you said on the floor, the show is contempt for the subpoena, was essentially an insult to the institution of congress. i thought that was well put

i will quote kevin lord, executive price president of human resources at fox news parent fox corpse, said enamel, the company will be requiring all unvaccinated employees to be tested each day. not just once a week, in order to work and company facilities. again, just so folks understand, this is five dimes as onerous as biden's own policy on vaccines. we also know fox news employees wear masks, just look at this footage from this opening of their newly renovated bureau. every single person is wearing a mask. so, despite all that fox news personalities, and all these grandiose terms -- at the end of western civilization as they know it, not a single person not one on the network, will actually have the tiny little's coach, the monaco's courage or integrity to go on air, on the show they just have a network to criticize their bosses own policies. because as tucker said, quote, they just have a show on the channel and would never presume to speak for the company. when they sign your checks, they get your silence. what's tucker can do though, is use that show to use -- in republican pol

>> yeah, more republican votes than i was expecting given that kevin mccarthy was whipping the vote very hard to try to get everybody on the side of not issuing the criminal contempt referral for bannon. and so i was pleased to see there were a number of people on the republican side who voted to impeach donald trump also in this group, but there were also some new ones like nancy mace from south carolina who is my counterpart on the oversight subcommittee on civil rights and civil liberties. she just said she believes in the rule of law and how can congress with a straight face go forward and ever issue subpoenas again if we're not going to stand by our subpoenas? more power to these people who stood by the rule of law. >> yeah, nancy mace statement making the point, a good one, if you have an immunity you want to assert, you've got to come down and assert it. the sort of going out of his way, as you said on the floor, show his contempt for the subpoena, was essentially insult to the institution of congress and i thought, you know, that was well put by her. >> that's the way it works, y