why, bob, is this such a hard question for jim jordan to answer? >> because the whole goal here was -- is steve bannon is quoted in our book saying to strangle the biden presidency in the crib, to subvert the process of certifying the biden election. remember, at this time, trump is president. he's talking to bannon. he's talking to jordan. he's talking to giuliani. he's talking to people we probably don't know about. he had come back from mar-a-lago, avoiding reluctantly that new year's eve party. so he can work the phones, so he can make -- we report in our book about his meeting with pence and saying don't you think it would be cool if you had this power to decide who is going to be the next president? and pence says to his credit, at that point, no. i don't think one person should have that power. and the constitution and the law make that very clear. but trump is pushing it, bannon is pushing it, giuliani is pushing it. there are others involved in this, and if somebody really looks at it as i think you almost are required to do, as a criminal

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. >> will the committee subpoena jim jordan? >> as far as i know there have been no discussions yet about any members of congress. that obviously raises different kinds of issues. jim jordan decided to come forward in the rules committee this week and so he established himself as fair game for a whole bunch of questions and he has -- he seems to have admitted in kind of a sideways way that he was in communication with donald trump on january 6th. seems pretty clear that he was in meetings prior to january 6th. and, look, the bottom line is that we know that there are lots of people in the republican party, both elected and unelected, who know a lot of information about the assault on congress on january 6th, which was the worst violent attack on the u.s. capitol since the war of 1812. and perhaps the most dangerous assault on american democracy since the civil war. one would think that it would be -- they would understand it is not just a legal duty, but a civic honor for them to be able to render testimony. and most of the peop

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you have jim jordan of ohio writing, ohio should ban all vaccine mandates. of course that would mean the requirements that have existed in schools for generations for things like measles, rubella, vaccines shown to work there. what's the impact of this? >> i think it would be tremendous and awful. we have had school mandates since the 1970s. they were borne of measles in places like los angeles and detroit. they work. what we found is because of school vaccine mandates, we basically eliminated measles from this country by 2000. we basically eliminated rubella, or german measles, by 2005. if we roll back the mandates, we will take a giant step backward in time. there is probably no better example how they work than the state of mississippi. mississippi has one of the lowest if not the lowest rate of covid-19 vaccinations, mid 30% to high 30% range. what state in this union has the highest rate of vaccines for children, and the answer is mississippi. the reason is they have never had in their school mandates a philosophical religious exemption. they are one of

it is not just the jim jordans, this is the gop establishment. chuck grassley, the most senior senate republican on stage over the weekend in iowa rallying with trump. you have trump headlining two upcoming fund-raisers for the nrcc and nrsc, the house and senate campaign arms coming up in the next few weeks. it shows you that even the establishment republican now is bringing him back, welcoming him with open arms and tightly hugging him. >> what do you think, joe? >> this isn't a comeback. it is interesting -- it is a great story. this is no comeback, though. this has been his party since he came down that escalator, certainly since he got the nomination. it's been pathetic for five or six years. it's been pathetic post an insurrection that it is still his party. but it is his party. you're right, i think of chuck grassley, 88-year-old chuck grassley, he's been in d.c. since, like, 1874. he's running for another term. he doesn't need trump to win re-election. but yet there he is, on his knees last weekend, bowing to donald trump. steve scalise w