why, bob, is this such a hard question for jim jordan to answer? >> because the whole goal here was -- is steve bannon is quoted in our book saying to strangle the biden presidency in the crib, to subvert the process of certifying the biden election. remember, at this time, trump is president. he's talking to bannon. he's talking to jordan. he's talking to giuliani. he's talking to people we probably don't know about. he had come back from mar-a-lago, avoiding reluctantly that new year's eve party. so he can work the phones, so he can make -- we report in our book about his meeting with pence and saying don't you think it would be cool if you had this power to decide who is going to be the next president? and pence says to his credit, at that point, no. i don't think one person should have that power. and the constitution and the law make that very clear. but trump is pushing it, bannon is pushing it, giuliani is pushing it. there are others involved in this, and if somebody really looks at it as i think you almost are required to do, as a criminal

. >>> when did congressman jim jordan talk to former president trump on the day of the capitol riot? this is a question that the republican lawmaker has been struggling to answer for months. why? >>> new never-before-seen video of the insurrection and why it's so critical to understand what happened that day. >>> and as the administration prepares to vaccinate young children, the surgeon general will join us to address parents's biggest questions. but we lose control. ♪ ♪ ♪ should i stay or should i go? ♪ and we need insights across our data silos, but how? ♪ if i go there will be trouble ♪ ♪ ♪ wait, we can stay and go. hpe greenlake is the platform that brings the cloud to us. ♪ should i stay or should i go now? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ feel stuck and need a loan? ♪ move to a sofi personal loan. earn $10 just for viewing your rate — and feel what it's like to get your money right. ♪ (peaceful music) ♪ ♪ ♪ (battle sounds from phone) ♪ ♪ (battle sounds stop) ♪ ♪ (dragon roar from phone) ♪ ♪ ♪ things you start when you're 45. coaching. new workouts. a

. >> will the committee subpoena jim jordan? >> as far as i know there have been no discussions yet about any members of congress. that obviously raises different kinds of issues. jim jordan decided to come forward in the rules committee this week and so he established himself as fair game for a whole bunch of questions and he has -- he seems to have admitted in kind of a sideways way that he was in communication with donald trump on january 6th. seems pretty clear that he was in meetings prior to january 6th. and, look, the bottom line is that we know that there are lots of people in the republican party, both elected and unelected, who know a lot of information about the assault on congress on january 6th, which was the worst violent attack on the u.s. capitol since the war of 1812. and perhaps the most dangerous assault on american democracy since the civil war. one would think that it would be -- they would understand it is not just a legal duty, but a civic honor for them to be able to render testimony. and most of the peop

someone else who has critical information is congressman jim jordan, a trump ally who still serves in the house. he could still be a witness. congress could ask him and you're laughing at me already and subpoena him, if necessary, would jim jordan tell the truth. well, listen. >> did you talk to the former president before after. >> of course i've talked to the president. i've been clear about that. i talk to him all the day. i've been clear about that. i don't recall the times. >> was it before, during or after the attack -- >> i talked to the president after the attack. >> so not before or during. >> right. >> and you -- >> i've been clear about that. >> more clear about it there than maybe in the past, but the actual question is what did you talk about, not just that did you talk? >> yeah. >> first you've got to establish that they did talk and then the timing of the conversation and then you move on to the substance stuff. those answers is why i was grining about this because what congressman jordan is saying he does not recall the number of times he spoke to the president on a da

turning the floor over to republican congressman jim jordan and matt gaetz. as cnn was first to report, the select committee has asked their phone records be preserved along with those of the former president in connection with the 6th. today jordan who was questioned by committee chairman jim mcgovern and who has given conflicting accounts on this, concept recall how many times he spoke to the former president that day. >> i talked to him that day. i have been clear about that. i don't recall the number of times. but it's not about me. i know you want to make it about that. >> joining us now, house select committee member and house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff. democrat of california author of "midnight in washington: how we almost lost our democracy and still could." congressman schiff, what does it say to you these republican members of congress are basically saying it's okay to ignore a congressional subpoena? even if you don't think steve bannon did anything, even if you don't think this whole thing should go forward, this is a lawful cong

there is also ohio congressman jim jordan tweeting ohio should ban all vaccine mandates. i mean, how dangerous is this? vaccines for diseases like polio and measles have been mandated for decades. what happens if those are all of a sudden eliminated, surgeon general? >> that would be catastrophic because we know that for decades that vaccine requirements for measles, mumps, rubella and other illnesses including polio and these kept millions and millions of people healthy and saved millions of lives are part of the public health infrastructure of this country. we should be learning from those lessons and applying them to covid not seeking to take down requirements that have saved lives and made people's lives better so we've got to keep that in mind. i know this is a difficult time and the response has felt polarized but it's gone on for a long time the pandemic has been going on for 18 months. that's stressed and strained us. we can't allow the virus to get the better of us and force us to look the other way and not follow sound public health guidance. what we got to do i

you have jim jordan of ohio writing, ohio should ban all vaccine mandates. of course that would mean the requirements that have existed in schools for generations for things like measles, rubella, vaccines shown to work there. what's the impact of this? >> i think it would be tremendous and awful. we have had school mandates since the 1970s. they were borne of measles in places like los angeles and detroit. they work. what we found is because of school vaccine mandates, we basically eliminated measles from this country by 2000. we basically eliminated rubella, or german measles, by 2005. if we roll back the mandates, we will take a giant step backward in time. there is probably no better example how they work than the state of mississippi. mississippi has one of the lowest if not the lowest rate of covid-19 vaccinations, mid 30% to high 30% range. what state in this union has the highest rate of vaccines for children, and the answer is mississippi. the reason is they have never had in their school mandates a philosophical religious exemption. they are one of

a message like this from one congressman, jim jordan, urging the state of ohio to end all vaccine mandates. that's what governor mandate did in texas with that executive order, getting companies to ignore the mandates of getting the shot. let's bring in conservative radio host mark davis from 660 am. nice having you on the show. >> thanks, chris. >> i'm very glad you took the opportunity to come on. government telling people what to do, conservatives not going to like it. really, nobody likes being told what to do. but you don't like hearing a governor, let alone a supposedly conservative governor, telling companies that they can't do something that you believe they are allowed to. how so? >> it calls to mind a certain consistency in the conservative mindset of what governors' role should be in business decision making, and to my mind that role is as little as possible. that means that joe biden is wrong to tell companies that you must have a vaccine mandate, and governors from abbott to desantis, whom i also love, are wrong to tell companies that they cannot. i am a business and economic

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congressman jim jordan grease, the white house does not. >> governor abbott's executive order banning mandates and i would also note an announcement by governor desantis essentially banning the implementation of mandates fit a familiar pattern that we've seen of putting politics ahead of public health. >> reporter: some big corporations say they'll ignore the governor of texas and still insist their staff get vaccinated. covid-19 is, was, and will always be contentious. a survey of over 300 scientists who have spoken publicly about it found 15% receive death threats and 22% receive threats of physical or sexual violence. meantime, the big picture -- >> still, we are in some aspects in the pandemic phase of the outbreak. however, we are seeing now a decline in acceleration and a turn around of case. s. >> reporter: and the cdc predict hospitalizations and deaths will continue to fall over the coming mo month. but there are still more than 66 million eligible americans who haven't gotten their first shot yet. but pointing out that they might have made a bad decision, apparently, will no

it is not just the jim jordans, this is the gop establishment. chuck grassley, the most senior senate republican on stage over the weekend in iowa rallying with trump. you have trump headlining two upcoming fund-raisers for the nrcc and nrsc, the house and senate campaign arms coming up in the next few weeks. it shows you that even the establishment republican now is bringing him back, welcoming him with open arms and tightly hugging him. >> what do you think, joe? >> this isn't a comeback. it is interesting -- it is a great story. this is no comeback, though. this has been his party since he came down that escalator, certainly since he got the nomination. it's been pathetic for five or six years. it's been pathetic post an insurrection that it is still his party. but it is his party. you're right, i think of chuck grassley, 88-year-old chuck grassley, he's been in d.c. since, like, 1874. he's running for another term. he doesn't need trump to win re-election. but yet there he is, on his knees last weekend, bowing to donald trump. steve scalise w

. >> doctor, i wanted to ask you about something that republican congressman jim jordan floated this week on twitter. he thinks that his state of ohio should ban all vaccine mandates, meaning, all of the vaccines, that all of us got as children in order to go to public school. i'm talking measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, polio, so that we didn't die or, i guess, lose the function of our limbs. he wants them to get rid of all of those mandates. why? i guess. and what would happen if that were to go into effect? >> i can't answer the why. but this is a victory to try to deny that an initial failed response has led to over 750,000 dead americans. we've heard versions of this with, it's no worse than the flu, 98%, 99% of people survive with this and why stop at vaccines? why should we not allow people to drink and drive? why should we have child car seat requirements? why stop there if we're going to talk about undermining public health. and this is a big concern for me. yes, covid is going to be deadly for americans, but if we undermine public health, this is going to be even deadli

we heard everything from christmas presents to gas prices to the embassy in jerusalem, from jim jordan to talking about the security posture there at the capitol, which is an important element, but we heard from adam kin ssinger who is on of the two republicans on the committee is to not use that to distract from what the conversation is today. can steve bannon defy a subpoena from congress? >> we've ryan nobles on capitol hill for us, correspondent paula reed, harry lichtman and margaret telev. ali, i want to start with you. what did you think made the most legal sense? >> i'm going to start with what made least legal sense. they were illogical and manipulative. first, they argued the reason steve bannon is subpoenaed is because people don't like thiz political beliefs. that's nonsense. there are plenty of people who have popular political beliefs. the reason steve bannon is subpoenaed is because he predicted what happened and he was at the willard hotel. second, this idea that the committee is not focusing on security. it is focusing on security. and let's not forget dan hodges who l

three months ago, for the first time in the history of congress, speaker pelosi vetoed jim jordan and i from serving on the select committee to investigate january 6th. not all firsts are worth celebrating. it was a shameful and divisive decision with real consequences. today, because of that decision, there is no committee conducting a legitimate investigation into january 6th. congress is prohibited from conducting criminal investigations, period. but that's exactly what the select committee is doing. conducting an illicit criminal investigation into american citizens. steve bannon was a private citizen before, after, and during january 6th. so, why is the select committee interested in steve bannon? it's simple. he is a democrat party boogeyman. the select committee despises steve bannon's politics, so they're abusing their power to put him in jail. the committee explained it's seeking documents from mr. bannon because he helped, quote, construct and participated in the permitted and legal "stop the steal" rally. to date, the select committee has subpoenaed 11 other private citizen

congressman jim jordan agrees. meerntd, the big picture -- >> still, we're in some aspects in the pandemic phase of the outbreak, however, we're seeing now a decline in acceleration and a turnaround of cases. >> and the cdc predicts hospitalizations and deaths will continue to fall over the coming months. and tomorrow and friday, the fda's vaccine advisers are going to meet to talk boosters of moderna and johnson & johnson. moderna basically wants to roll out essentially a half dose as a booster. and meantime, an nih study says it is safe and effective to mix and match your first doses and your booster do not need to be the same brand. wolf. >> very interesting indeed. nick watt reporting for us, thank you very much. >> let's dig deeper right now. joining us, our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, also the author of a brand-new book, you see the cover "world war c, lessons from the covid-19 pandemic and how to prepare for the next one." thank you as usual for joining us. more than 104,000 people here in

congressman jim jordan and matt gaetz. defending bannon's refusal to comply with the committee's subpoena. and both still refusing to admit that november's election was not stolen. >> in january, um, i ask you to say five simple words. the election was not stolen. and you were unwilling to say them, then. can you say those five words today? >> i have never said it was stolen, mr. chairman. i will give you the same answer. never said it was. i said we should investigate it. i said on january 6th when the electoral votes were counted that joe biden is president of the united states. and if you got a problem with that, i don't -- i don't understand it. the real question is why don't you guys want to investigate what happened? >> you said a lot of words just now but unfortunately, you are still unwilling to say those five words. >> your obsession with five words seems pretty ridiculous to me. >> here is the question i want to ask you. let's just start with basics. do you accept that joe biden won the 2020 presidential election

it wasn't just the jim jordans and the matt gaetz of the world who gathered and stood behind him. it was governor kim reynolds. congresswoman ashley stinson, considered a rising star in the party and senator chuck grassley who is from iowa and has been an iowa senator as long as i've been alive. but what was really instructives too why grassley made that appearance over the weekend with donald trump, i found these recent polling from the "des moines register" fascinating. if you look at the favorability ratings for donald trump among iowa republicans, it's 91%. that was at 91% figure that chuck grassley has been talking about. chuck grassley's numbers, 81%. still very high, to be sure, but surprising to see that ten-point gap. >> it's not just a win for establishment republicans to hug him. republicans are very much damned if they do and damned if they don't. if they call out his big lie, they could find themselves in a primary and alienating their own base. if you don't say anything, they are potentially allowing the man in their party who has the biggest megaphone to hijack thei

here with us, casey jordan, it is good to have you on, casey. i know police are confronted with domestic violence every day. they have to incertisert themse into these situations. in your view, when you look at this particular interaction, but also others, did they have enough evidence to intervene more than they did? >> they definitely had enough evidence to arrest them both. which in retrospect and, of course, you hate to monday morning quarterback may have been the best thing because it would have given them the break away from each other that they may have needed so that gabby could have gotten it together a bit. from that angle, we have seen this before from different angles, i take away a few things. i see brian is using duper's delight. he's got this smirky smile on his face, he's laughing, he's going -- i don't have a phone, if she gets in the van and drives away, oh, my gosh, i'm the victim. where will i go? and they're buying it. they're taking everything he says at face value when we know he has a phone. and interestingly enough, they