>> he's been cooperative. i'm not sure about his present whereabouts. [ inaudible question ] >> i won't talk about the specifics of that. that's still being investigated. >> just for clarity, was there multiple rounds in that weapon? >> cando you have more informat about when charges will be filed? >> i'll stay away from a timeline. there are several individuals who need to be interviewed, and from those interviews comes new information that can be used, so i don't want to put a timeline on it. we're working diligently, our investigative team is, to wrap this up thoroughly and completely, so there is no timeline. we want to get all the facts, get all the statements and present that to the district attorney's office for review. >> can you confirm you've interviewed hanna gutierrez reed and the assistant director dave halls? >> we have. >> do you expect to bring in either of those two? >> as questions come up, other information comes to light, there may be follow-up interviews, so i would suspect that we would w

their cooperation. and they are clear they are going to do whatever they can to get cooperation out of these witnesses and that includes criminal contempt if it should come to that. the statement reads, quote, we will not allow any witness to defy a lawful subpoena or attempt to run out the clock and we will swiftly consider advancing a criminal contempt of congress referral. and the running out the clock part is a very important part of this equation. because to evans point, there isn't a lot of legal precedent for the arguments in a court of law and it is to benefit of the former president donald trump and his associates to throw as many legal barriers in the way even if their ultimately going to be unsuccessful because the select committee doesn't have enough time to adjudicate all of these matters and come to a swift conclusion ahead of the midterm elections next year. so their time frame is short. so the trump team could run out the clock as long as possible. and one other note i'll make, in the st

now, each one of these four individuals is either not cooperating or cooperating on different levels. so it's important that we need to look at each one on its own merits. but right now, the committee's made it clear, they are not going to wait around to move to criminal contempt if they feel it's necessary. anderson. >> ryan nobles, appreciate it. thanks for more now on what happens if and when the committee tries to impose consequences for noncompliance, we are joined by cnn contributor, garrett graft. also, elie honig. so, elie, i want to ask you about those subpoenas in a minute. but just regarding the news from kaitlan collins that the white house formally rejected the request to assert executive privilege. absent an intervening court order. do you think this will end -- ultimately, end up with a -- a -- a -- you know, a legal fight? >> i do think it will, anderson. this move by the biden administration puts donald trump in a very tough spot. now, trump has two options. one, he can do nothing and let it be which means 30 days from now, those documents go over to the committee. or

some of them are cooperating somewhat. there is still, as of today, 14 other subpoenas issued and more are coming in. just about every five days, they've got documents or testimony coming in. they are still working on an investigation and just as the congresswoman had said, they are still looking at documents and phone records and all kind of other things. i don't mean to pooh-pooh steve bannon's testimony but he is not the only witness here and other ones are going to provide information. he may end up in jail. but there's still plenty of other information to be gotten and i -- and i just don't think this stuff will completely derail the investigation, john. >> elliot williams, barbara comstock, thanks to both of you. >>> next, the manhunt for brian laundrie and how far, if at all, his parents will go to help. new developments including the question of a polygraph when we come back. i wonder how the firm's doing without its fearless leader. you sure you want to leave that all behind? yeah. stay restless with the rx. craft

anderson cooper will join me in just a moment for a preview. you can see that live location there in baltimore, maryland. first, we have breaking news. the fbi just confirming the human remains found in that florida nature reserve are indeed those of 23-year-old brian laundrie. the news coming exactly one month after we learned that laundrie's fiancee, gabby petito, was murdered in wyoming by strangulation. tonight we're also learning about a crucial piece of evidence that could shed light on how petito died. a note booker discovered near laundrie's remains we're learning tonight is possibly salvageable, according to a source. leyla santiago is live. i know you had a chance to speak with an official from north port police moments ago and have learned ed new details about w they founding near brian laundrie's remains. what did you find out? >> reporter: we've learned that the belongings and the remains were found about a 45-minute walk from this entrance to the reserve. it was dental records that allowed them to confirm that those remains belong

do you expect him to cooperate? >> very hard to say. we subpoenaed him because we couldn't get voluntary cooperation, and we were tired of waiting. and at the end of the day, we're going to move, and we're going to move fast to make sure that we get this information with the american people, and if we don't, and if they don't show up and don't cooperate, we will vote to hold them in criminal contempt in the house. we'll refer that to the justice department and expect them to be prosecuted. >> would you like both of these former justice department officials, rosen and clark, to testify publicly? >> i think there will come a time that we will want many of these witnesses, perhaps not all of them, but many to testify publicly so that the public can hear them directly, evaluate their credibility, but also, we cannot acclimate ourselves to what's gone on in the last four years. it ought to shock americans what they already know because the senate findings are already public, and that is that clark and others tried to subvert the election, tr

>> clear indication that they are now formally cooperating with law enforcement. clearly at the time, at the very early onset, there was an assumption by law enforcement and that the parents assisted or hindered with respect to the ongoing investigation. i think once the evidence was established that they could potentially charge the mom or dad or together with respect to hindering an investigation, they now put the full-court press on the mom and dad through their lawyer. i think they realized their exposure, and they finally realized they need to come onboard and cooperate fully. so now you have mom and dad fully cooperating and trying to assist them in the apprehension of their son. >> mark, i want you to weigh in on this. does the new cooperation from the laundries indicate that they may have struck some kind of a deal? what could that entail? what do you see here? >> well, just going out for a search does not suggest they've given all the information. did he get any getting out of town money, opening up bank accounts and whatever phone records they had. there

there are people who have already cooperated -- or have indicated they're going to cooperate. for example, people who were part of the rally organization have indicated to cnn they plan to cooperate and at least one case said on the record they plan to cooperate. so now it's about trying to get the information from people who will cooperate to develop this strategy and move forward and perhaps compel other people who are less interested in cooperating to actually give them information they need. so still relative to the length of this, they're in the earlier stages of information collection but they're moving forward with trying to figure out what happened that day from the very people who were there. >>> also new insider details about the democrats' effort to bring donald trump to justice from one of trump's most dogged and hated opponents. they are in an upcoming book called "midnight in washington." by california congressman adam schiff. he's the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. the lead manager for trump's first impeachment trial. let's go to jessica dean

and they hope the threat pushes bannon to cooperate as well. now, it's obviously really important to know here that bannon very likely has crucial information about how the insurrection happened, who did what, who knew what when and what role trump played in it all. according to the book "peril," it was bannon who pushed trump to return to washington from mar-a-lago for the january-6th rally. just days before the insurrection, bannon called trump and said, quote, you got to return to washington and make a dramatic return today. people are going to go what the f is going on here? we are going to bury biden on january every. effing bury him. bannon's confirmed that call happened. and in case it's unclear what bannon was intending to happen on the 6th, he actually spoke about it on his podcast the day before for everyone to hear. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's not going to happen like you think it's going to happen. okay? it's going to be quite extraordinarily dif

anderson cooper will moderate as the president takes questions from the american people. that's at 8:00 p.m. tomorrow night. >>> coming up -- a major development in the search for gabby petito's fiance. the fbi will give an update any time. that's ahead. >>> and -- guilty much? liz cheney suggests it's easy to see why president trump is fighting the january 6th committee. stay with us. ♪ ♪ do you know what the future holds? people were afraid i was contagious. i felt gross. it was kind of a shock after i started cosentyx. four years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections —some serious— and the lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reactions may occur. learn more at cosentyx.com. don't like surprises? [ watch vibrates ] proactive notification

he said everyone on the crew has been cooperative. he said they've interviewed and talked to the armorer. they talked to the assistant director. people have been wondering about them because they were working with what they call props but what we now know was a functioning weapon. there are over 100 people on set they want to talk to and interview them as well to get more information. we're hearing reports there may have been other misfires on the set of "rust." they wanted to get more information on that but they didn't have that at this point. the most important thing at this point, though, is learning more about the fire aarms on the set and only one appeared to be functional, and that's the one fired by alec baldwin. >> now joining us, senior fellow prosecutor eli honig. the santa fe d.a. is not ruling out criminal charges. she says this is a complex case. help us understand how she may be thinking about this. what charges might she be considering and who could be in legal jeopardy? >> ana, so the d.a. made clear that the charge t

if you and i didn't cooperate and if we were subpoenaed and we didn't cooperate, there would be consequences. what is the argument for not having accountability for steve bannon? >> well, the argument is based on the constitution. he is made a claim of executive privilege. now, whether he has executive privilege or not is a question for courts to decide. but he is making that claim and the attorney general is going to decide whether that is a valid claim, whether they could win the case, if they lose the case i don't think they would, but if they were to lose the case, the white house, the executive branch would have lost some standing if you will in its ongoing battle between congress and the executive over information. so, yes, i mean, we could hear anecdotally in a nonlegal, nonconstitutional sense that he's making certain claims but again ultimately a court will have to decide whether his involvement is protected by executive privilege, which he is claiming that it is. >> but to be clear, you think that they would win against steve bannon? >> well let me say this. he's claiming absolute

he's saying it will come if they continue to refuse to cooperate. our understanding is that mark meadows and kash patel are engaging with the panel. former trump adviser steve bannon says, however, he will not cooperate. joining us now to speak about what comes next, elie honig, a former federal and state prosecutor. good to have you on. those words are meaningful there, right? we were talking as recently as last week of what do they do if the refusals continue. i'm curious what the timeline is. if a bannon refuses to cooperate, they slap him with a criminal referral, one of the frustrations watching all this is how long these things can be dragged out and they don't seem to go anywhere. would you expect something like this to go somewhere and soon? >> yeah, jim, so the key word was will, these referrals will come and will come fast. when you get a politician saying that, nothing is off the table, that was a solid commitment by adam schiff. there is two questions on timing here. one, how quickly will congress send this over to doj? they should be re

as far as my investigators are concerned, she is cooperating. but the sooner the better that she comes in, we can clarify some questions. >> is it possible this is intentional, that someone intentionally introduced a live round? >> there is all kinds of possibilities and, again, we want to get to the truth and the facts of the matter. so that's the focus of the investigation as i see it. why these rounds were there, who brought them there, and how they got there. >> all right, sheriff, thank you. obviously so many questions that we still have here, sheriff mendoza, appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> so cnn heroes is back. for 15 years the campaign shined a spotlight on everyday people changing the world. we have shared these inspiring stories with you all year long. now, here to announce the top ten cnn heroes of the year, our own anderson cooper, the co-host of the 15th annual cnn heroes and all-star tribute which will live across cnn platforms on sunday, december 12th, at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. big, big announcement, anderson. >> big announceme

, and i expect you not to cooperate which is what makes this significant. >> yeah, even to the point where his attorney has sent a letter to those subpoenaed saying do not cooperate, whether that's giving testimony or documents because we believe you're covered by various amounts of privilege that they listed in the letter, and so this is different in the sense that these are people that are doing this voluntarily. they are fearful of getting a subpoena, that maybe they just want to share information but what we do know is that the former president is ready to engage in a legal battle balance this to where he's gone as far as sue the january 6th committee and sue the national archives because they have also tried to get documents related to that day, whether it's from call logs or other various forms that they believe could help them piece together what was happening inside the west wing. the former president has made clear what his stance is on this and whether or not he thinks people should go in and speak to them or even more formally cooperate on a level, but i think that this sh

what do you mean by remarkable cooperation? >> there have been dozens and dozens of interviews that have taken place with people who were involved both on the political coup side and on the insurrection side, and other people have information about what was taking place. obviously we had to vote out criminal contempt charges to refer to the u.s. attorney to take to the grand jury in the case of steve bannon because of his blatant refusal to comply with a congressional subpoena. he just didn't show up. but we're being reasonable as the courts have always asked congress to be reasonable. we have the right to all this information, but if somebody can't show up thursday at 4:00 and they want to come monday at 9:00, if they've got a doctor's appointment, they got something else going on, we're going to, you know, participate in a process of accommodation with them. and people have raised different kinds of objections to this or that. again, we're trying to be reasonable and accommodating them. >> but like on meadows, for example, pa

bannon's cooperation. he's clearly hiding behind his privilege that he doesn't hold, and that's fine. if he continues to stonewall, we'll continue to use every means necessary which includes that tuesday meeting where we plan to proceed with criminal contempt. and i think others should take note that the committee will employ every tool available including that same tool if they don't want to cooperate. but thankfully, like i mentioned, wolf, there was 11 subpoenas offered to the funders and organizers of the activities and we're engaged with those individuals and we'll receive documents and hopefully testimony from them in the future. so our goal is cooperation. our goal is to get to the truth. and if folks want to stonewall, they'll have to face those consequences. >> do you think criminal contempt charges may eventually be necessary for other key witnesses like mark meadows, kash patel, or dan scavino, for example? >> i think they may be. and the committee can't be shy about using that tool. but again,

we want to underscore the importance of the cooperation in the indo-pacific region. thirdly, i would like to invite discussion about coordination in the fight against terrorism, and in particular the presence to get our european and international partners. over the past few weeks, president biden took some fundamental decisions which benefited our armies, and these are very much -- this is the embodiment of the support. then we acknowledged some bilateral agreements on armament exportations, nuclear sector, the space industry, and of course the most advanced technology. and we want to have some >>> we want to have some cooperation on regulations as well. we'll continue to work together on the main international issues, climate change, the digital sector, health which will be on the agenda of the g-20 and we'll also upgrade our discussions on the arms control which remains a key issue. and in a few words this is what was at the heart of our work over the past few weeks, but we'll be discussing today these very concrete decisions that are being taken to support some in

each of these four individuals is either not cooperating or cooperating on different levels. it's important we need to look at each one on its own merits but the committee has made it clear they are not going to wait around to move to criminal contempt if they feel it's necessary. >> for more, we're joined by cnn contributor garrett graff and eli hoenig. the clark has started now on 30 days to release these documents absent an intervening court order. do you think this will ultimately end up with a, you know, a legal fight? >> i do think it will, anderson. this move by the biden administration puts donald trump in a very tough spot. now trump has two options. one, he can do nothing and let it be, which means 30 days from now those documents go over to the committee or, two, trump can go to court and ask them to block the documents from going over. that's a serious uphill climb. we don't have a definitive answer in the law. generally speaking it's the current president who gets to decide. that makes sense. we've seen barack obama and george w. bush exercise or not exercise exe

so we anticipate a cooperative relationship. all we want is to follow the direction of what congress said this committee should do. we want to follow the facts. we'll pursue the information. and based on that, we'll come back, with what we consider the right recommendations for congress to consider. >> yesterday, your colleague, congress schiff told me you subpoenaed former trump justice department official, jeffrey clark. his words, because we couldn't get voluntary cooperation. how critical is clark's testimony to your investigation? >> well, his testimony, wolf, is very essential. as you know, he was a key player in terms of what was going on with the election and how the big lie was being promoted. so we need to hear from him. and congressman schiff is absolutely correct. all those individuals that we have subpoenaed so far, their testimony is important as well as their documentation, if it's available. it's critical to our committee's work. so in order to get it, we have to put those individuals on notice. everyone is under

. >> now, obviously the family is under a veil of suspicion because of their lack of cooperation from the beginning optically in terms of contacting the petitos, et cetera, and dealing with authorities. the police gave the impression that the family delayed notifying them about brian laundrie's disappearance. >> well, you say that they gave the impression. they have come out right and said it, and certain members of the north port police department have said it more than once. and as i discussed with you once before, let the record be clear, the laundries reported brian did not come home the night he went out for the hike. i actually reported that to the fbi personally. on friday, the 17th, the fbi called me. we didn't call them. they called me and said we have a tip that brian was seen in tampa and we want to see if he's in the house. after some back and forth, we agreed on a time. at 6:15, friday the 17th, the fbi was going to come to the house. during that conversation with agreeing on the time, i said to them, if you got a tip, where did this come from because a member of the nort

a source says steve bannon is telling lawmakers he won't cooperate. his lawyers say it's for the courts to decide whether he ultimately has to comply. the same source saying mark meadows also did respond to the xhirt. it's not clear, however, what meadows said. what is clear is that the investigation is stopped between a rock and a threat of executive privilege. trump saying he'll try to use that tactic. joining us now is a special judiciary committee committee attorney and ely honig is with the southern district of new york. i'll start with you both. does executive privilege actually apply here? >> thanks for having me back. the ultimate determination as to whether executive privilege exists or not is for the biden administration because they are the current orders of the privilege bus they do not think executive privilege applies because they have let former trump administration officials testify about these subjects, the ex-president's assault on the 2020 election, his big lie campaign. two senior doj officials. i think the determination will be th

i'm fully cooperating with the police investigation to address how this tragedy occurred. my heart is broken for her husband, their son, and all who knew and loved halyna." >> so our thanks to nick watt there of cnn. in a statement obtained by "deadline," i want to tell you what "rust" productions said, "the safety of our cast and crew is the top priority of "rust" productions and everyone associated with the company. though we were not made aware of any official complaints concerning weapon or prop safety on set, we will be conducting an internal review of our procedures while production is shut down. we'll continue to support or to cooperate with the santa fe authorities in their investigation and offer mental health services to the cast and crew during this time." i want to point out that cnn has reached out to the production company. they have yet to -- we have yet to receive a response. i want to talk to phillip schneider, a movie set property master. phillip, thank you so much for taking time to talk to us. i have to believe that this has been emotional for you. brin

steve bannon, his team has said he's not cooperating, he's not coming. so have you already started drafting the criminal referral? >> i can't comment on that, but let me tell you what i think is going on with steve bannon. this is one thing i write about in the book. during the russia investigation, led at the time by a chairman devin nunes, republican, we subpoenaed bannon. and he came in with 25 questions that were written out for him by the white house. and said these are the only questions i'm going to ask. i'm going to allow you to ask and i've written out the answers and the answer to each is no. and the republicans allowed that. and bannon knew he could get way with that because republicans would allow that kind of obfuscation, but they knew the attorney general, bill barr, before him jeff sessions, neither of them would enforce the law. they would both support and protect and cover up for donald trump. that's not the situation anymore. we have a new attorney general. a new justice department dedicated to the principle that no one is above the law

you have others cooperating. still confidential providing information. that information is pouring in. >> our legal context there on what we can see in the coming days. and staying in washington this hour, u.s. president joe biden's approval rating is up to 50% in new cnn poll. but democrats in congress are still struggling to gain traction on his legislative agenda. and really sell the specifics of his plans. now, progressives in the house could be fighting for their political lives in the 2022 midterms, while moderate democrats, joe manchin and kirsten sinema are standing in the way in the senate. take a listen. >> we're waiting for the two of them to agree with each other, and then to submit a counterproposal. and i'm not sure why it's taking so long, but obviously this is a moment where we're all in agreement. so if somebody else has a different proposal, they should put it on the table. but it doesn't make sense for us to continue to negotiate against ourselves. >> well, that new cnn poll just mentioned finds 75% of democrats prefer a bill that gtz

>> now he knows how this end if he doesn't cooperate. he is in a different position than steve bannon because he was in the administration at the time in question. so it is possible that he could potentially get some additional protection of privilege but it is not clear at this point if president biden will be willing to invoke that on his behalf. we know he still has a couple weeks though his attorney has signaled he is not ready to cooperate. he has document due the next week and the week after. he has been asked to do a deposition but at this point it is not clear if they'll come to agreement, compromise, or if he too could be found in contempt. >> thank you so much. >>> speaking of steve bannon attorney general garland stuck to the talking points today saying when he comes to bannon he will apply the facts and the law as to whether to prosecute for contempt of congress. the smorgasboard of hearing featured republicans pressing the attorney general on this october 4th memo from his office stating the doj is worried about threats and

we talked about the folks not cooperating. but how much can they learn from the people who are cooperating? >> i'm squirming in my seat. i think the word you need to look here is a five-letter word. it's called "shame." you think of the structure of government, executive, legislative, judicial, you want to go in front of the congress and say, look, it's my responsibility as an american citizen to speak. it's shameful if i don't. but let's say steve bannon does comply. you've talked about the former deputy attorney general. steve bannon could show up and say i don't remember, i forgot, that was a conversation with the president and i think it's privileged. and then you have to go adjudicate that. the problem is not just whether he shows up. the problem is if he shows up does he just sort of say because he has no sense of shame, i really don't have anything to say? that's one of the things i worry about, don. >> laura, i also want to ask you about a new york judge order the former president, president trump to sit for a video de

>> clear indication, they are formally cooperating with law enforcement. clearly, they said there was an assumption that the parents assisted or hindered with the investigation. i think there is a big difference between law enforcement being able to prove it in a court of law. once the evidence was established they could charge the mom or dad together, they put the full court press on the mom and dad through their lawyer and they realize they need to cooperate fully. you have mom and dad trying to assist them in the apprehension of their son. >> mark, i want you to weigh in on this. the new cooperation from the laundries mean they have struck a deal? what could it entail? what do you see here? >> it does not suggest they have given information. the information that they arrive back at home in the van when he spoke to them. where he want what he did. did he get out of town money, opening up bank accounts and whatever call records, phone records they have. so there is more to cooperate than just going out and searching in the woods and suggesting you are loo

a source telling steve bannon will not cooperate as he stands with trump. sou sources also saying that mark meadows responded to the committee. it's not clear whether he plans to comply. we are also waiting on word about two other trump allies. >> still even with those road blocks, the investigation is moving forward. the committee handed out two new subpoenas. this time to a pair of the so-called stop the steal leaders who are are both affiliating with planning the january 6th rally that led occupy to the capitol attack. let's speak more in detail with former deputy assistant at attorney. always good to have you on. we have seen this movie before. subpoenas from congress, subpoenas from a special counsel defied, delayed, challenged in court, drag it is out. it took two years to get don mcgahn to testify. >> on what legal basis is the term stands with trump. if steve bannon has a basis for blocking or challenging a subpoena, which every individual who is subpoenaed has a right to do, there's a process for doing that. you go to court and you move to quash th

. >> it just doesn't look right that the parents hadn't wanted to cooperate, brian didn't want to cooperate, they wouldn't want to talk to the other family. so you can understand why people would be suspicious about their actions. >> absolutely. and, you know, now is not the right time to talk about the situation with gabby, but the family was following my directions. i told them not to talk to anybody, not to say a word. i was the intermediary between the family and law enforcement, and that's why we're confident that law enforcement, specifically the fbi was informed. brian did not come home that night. whatever played out in those three days after that, that's on the police and the fbi. >> that was laundrie's family attorney there. petito and laundrie's posts abruptly stopped in late august. petito was found in a national park in wyoming last month. laundrie has not been charge with her death but he is charged with unauthorized use of her debit card. >>> well, here's what two former fbi officials had to say about how the search and discovery played out. take a listen. >> it's not uncommo

bannon, one of the former trump officials and allies who pledges not to cooperate with the january 6th investigation, and the former president himself now trying to stymie that committee's work. donald trump is suing to stop the national archives from forking over documents. trump lawyers say executive privilege applies, but the committee says former presidents have no such power, no such privilege, and the chairman says it's time to teach an accountability lesson to trump and to his allies. >> he refuses the subpoena like we expect him to continue to do then we're left with no other choice then to ask the justice department, lock him up and hold him in contempt and clearly that might send enough of a message that he'll agree to talk to us. >> with me in studio to share their reporting and their insights, margaret at alloff of axios, a reporter with the "new york times," politico's heather capital gainel and cnn's paula reed. paula, let's start with you, congress votes -- the house votes to hold steve bannon in contempt and refer him to the justice department. he says lock him up. how

number two, we know that the family had not been cooperative from the outset. certainly if they wanted to cooperate and i get and understand and as an attorney i give the same advice, don't talk to anyone. but you certainly through your lawyer can provide information that can facilitate and move them out of forward. the last thing as relates to this press conference, also a head scratcher, it's very nice that law enforcement is cooperating with each other. that's what they need to do, should do to bring matters to justice. but beyond that you would think that there would be some scintilla of information that might satisfy our curiosity with respect to the many questions as the chief has noted that need to be answered and to this point have not been answered. the family certainly has those answers. whether they provide them is another matter. >> and this just kind of adds to what we've seen all along, which is just the strange curious nature of how this is all unfolded. all with still questions lingering out there of who killed gabby petito. it still remains out

but can they compel him to cooperate? >> they can. they can. they can by going through the process they're going through right now. look, he has a few pretty clear exit ramps from this, right? he could comply with the subpoena. he could come in front of the committee, and he could invoke his fifth amendment rights against self-incrimination and never say a single word, and there is nothing they can do about that. he can fight them in this process. he can go to trial. he can try to beat them at trial. he is appeal a negative verdict. so he can delay this and really bind them up and try to run out the clock. but at the end of the day, he can't just ignore it. he's pained himself into a corner with those words that he used on january 5th, and they have every legitimate right to find out what he meant by when he said those things. >> when you hear that, what does it sound like to you? >> you know, it sounds very much, don, like a guy who knew what was going to happen the next day. i mean, that is undeniable from those statements. and it's certainly

there's no indication these witnesses will cooperate by tonight's deadline. "the washington post" is now reporting, as you know, that former president trump has actually urged them not to comply. he's claiming executive privilege. what's your reaction? >> well, a lot of points here. the former president, it's not his role to claim privilege. that's the current occupant in the white house, but this is, you know, more broadly this shouldn't surprise anyone. the former president has done everything he can to try to get in the way of this investigation, including having senator mcconnell go into his caucus and oppose the bipartisan commission that we all would have wanted, so here we are, and our task ahead of us for the committee is to get to the truth. that's what we want, and clearly the president has a problem with us getting to the truth, and so that's why he's mounting a continued pressure campaign on these individuals who he's encouraging not to cooperate. >> i'm actually surprised, and i wonder if you are, congressman, that your committee hasn't even been

with them but the committee was unhappy with his level or lack of cooperation, which forced the subpoena. well, the committee had set a date of next friday for clark to come forward and we are being told that both clark, his attorneys and the committee, are prepared for him to come in next friday. that it looks as though he's going to do that. and clark isn't the only person that we're learning about that is talking to the committee or preparing to talk to the committee. alyssaer iffa, the former director of strategic communications at the white house has voluntarily come before the committee talking specifically with republican members of the committee about what she knew and what happened during the time of january 6th. we don't know specifics about what she detailed or if she could come before the committee before. but both ferrah and clark, two significant names the committee looking to get information from, jake, as their investigation moves forward. >> in addition, ryan, you are reporting that the investigators associated with the committee are trying to follow the money. what spec

anderson cooper moderates a cnn presidential town hall with joe biden thursday night at 8:00. >>> we are hours away now from a rare event on capitol hill. the house committee investigating the january 6th attack is preparing a criminal contempt referral against trump ally steve bannon. the last time something like this happened was in the reagan administration. bannon, as you know, is refusing to comply with subpoenas, citing executive privilege. we are learning bannon's attorney tried to delay, but the house committee denied that request. >> more resistance from former president trump himself he. he filed suit against the committee and the national archives. the former president is claiming executive privilege. his attorney's reported stop the steal lawyer who has tried to overturn election results. cnn's ryan nobles is on capitol hill. s explain to us what's going to happen at this committee tonight. >> reporter: there probably won't be too many surprises. the committee is going to gavel for a business meeting at 7:30, there will be a couple of opening statements, they will introdu

what happens when trump insiders refuse to cooperate? it's certainly happened to other committees and to other investigations before. and now, with steve bannon, one of the four big names subpoenaed to appear openly refusing to cooperate, the answer seems to be the committee will get tough. here's congressman adam kinzinger, one of two republicans on the panel this morning. >> it's my impression and my intention and the committee's intention that they will be compelled. you know, there's some little back-and-forth nuances between the lawyers right now but i think if it gets to a point where we realize they're stonewalling or they're not serious, there's contempt things you can file. you can do it through congress. you can do it through the doj, criminal contempt. i think that's our leaning is to say criminal contempt. >> so joining us now, cnn chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. you heard what congressman kinzinger has said there. you can refer it to the justice department. what would that look like, jeff? what would the process there b

how cooperative he's being, they aren't being clear about. it's bannon who is outright defying them so if there's a criminal attempt referral to be had it seems pretty clear that it's headed in bannon's direction and then, of course, the question becomes how quickly could they move? now it's going to require a vote of the entire house of representatives to then refer that process to the department of justice who would execute said criminal contemp referrals so this isn't something that could happen overnight but we could see action headed in this action as soon as this afternoon. >> we always appreciate the live reporting on the hill. ahead with me in studio to share their reporting and insights jilly hires feld davis and melanie zanona and melanie diamond. lawyers talking about lawyers, people not showing up from the previous administration, why do i care? this is a giant test for the committee and integrity of the congress. north committee, you all saw what happened at the capitol on january 6th and pictures of the real beforehand. we'll ge

representatives just voted to hold steve bannon in contempt of congress for refusing to cooperate with the selection investigation. the justice department to decide whether to prosecute the trump loyals. i'll speak with a prominent member of the january 6 committee, congressman adam schiff, and we'll talk about what happens next. >>> and breaking news just coming in. the fbi has just confirmed the human remains found in a florida nature reserve do belong to brian laundrie. the missing fiance of gabby petito. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer and you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with president biden and the enormous challenges he currently faces as he prepares to take the stage for cnn's exclusive town hall less than two hours from now. our chief white house correspondent is at the site of the event in baltimore. the president has yet another opportunity tonight to try to promote his domestic agenda, but the white house is still negotiating with a key senator who seems to be willing to hold up key parts of the legislation

we tried to secure jeffrey clark's cooperation. he was unwilling so we subpoenaed him. if our engagement doesn't lead to the testimony of these witnesses, then we will also take them up on criminal contempt charges. so, that's the plan, no one is off the table, no remedy is off the table. and we feel a real sense of urgency. >> and i want to ask you about your new book detailing the insurrection because while republicans now downplay what happened that day, you detail in the moment how they acknowledged the threat. this i think is mind blowing. here's an excerpt from the book. you write, you can't let them see you, a republican member said to me, he's right, another republican said. i know these people, i can talk to them, i can talk my way through them. you're in a whole different category. i thought at first i was oddly touched by these gop members and their concern, but by then i had been receiving death threats for years and that feeling soon gave way to another. if these republican members hadn't joined the president in falsely attacking me for four years, i wouldn

we have a wide-range of cooperation with the u.s. increasing or defense capability. >> how many u.s. service members are deployed taiwan? >> not as many as people thought. >> reporter: wolf, we have looked at the department of defense records. it seems as if the official number is around 32. you're talking about small numbers of u.s. forces helping to train the taiwanese to defend themselves against the mainland. if there were an escalation, the president telling me it's not to time for taiwan to back down, but to be resilient and strong. >> thank you very much, will. excellent reporting. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back tomorrow for our special coverage from rome. erin burnett, right now. >>> out front next biden's presidency at a pivotal moment. missing his own deadline to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill. where does his agenda stand? >>> the committee investigating january 6th growing impatient with mark meadows and considering whether to hold trump's former white house chief of staff in criminal

. >>> and the actor alec baldwin says he's fully cooperating with police after he fatally fired a prop gun on a movie set. one staff person is dead and another wounded, and baldwin says his heart is broken. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> we begin with the breaking news on the house investigation into the january 6 capital insurrection. a key witness is now expected to testify under oath before the select committee as early as next week. cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez is working the story for us. evan, he take it this would be the first trump administration official to appear before the committee, a trump administration official who was actually subpoenaed. >> that's right, wolf. we've had testimony from jeffrey rosen, who was then the acting attorney general in the trump administration. he appeared for about eight hours of testimony. but he appeared voluntarily. so did rich donoghue, deputy attorney general at the time. this is a big deal for this reason. jeffrey clark was having conversations with the f

thank you, anderson cooper. i love to say your name. anderson cooper just rolls off. >> first of all, you look amazing. i look like i'm ravaged by time. you look extraordinary. >> no, no. i, too, am ravaged by time. >> so -- >> my -- mine's mostly internal. your -- yours comes out in bad skin. but mine, i'm falling -- i'm falling apart inside. you should see my kidneys. >> well, i'm dead inside. so, you know, emotionally, you know, i -- i don't know. um, i love how you announced this to the world with the tweet. you said so now i can say something. yes, it's true. i am going to be a rocket man. is this -- i mean, had you -- obviously, you know, look, you have been in "star trek." had you ever thought about actually being able to go up into space? >> no. i mean, i -- i -- i -- so sorry to -- to bring you down to earth, to use a phrase. it was all pretend. none -- none of that -- i was on a set in paramount studios. >> what do you mean, bill? what? >> i never -- you know, when -- when shooting "star trek," it was all a figment of our coll

that they would cooperate with the law firm's investigation. and by the way, this is a law firm that alex murdaugh's great grandfather founded back in the early 1900s. another bond hearing is set, by the way, for next week, anderson. >> incredible. amara, thanks very much. up next, what the gang behind the kidnapping of the 16 american and one canadian missionaries is demanding for their release. the latest from haiti, ahead. gh. get decision tech. for insights on when to buy and sell. and proactive alerts on market events. that's decision tech. only from fidelity. ♪ (vo) subaru presents... the underdogs. they may have lost an eye, or their hearing, or their youthful good looks. but there's a lot of things these remarkable dogs haven't lost... like their ability to lick, wag, and love with the best of them. join subaru in helping underdogs find a loving home and celebrate all dogs during our third annual national make a dog's day. (vo) i am living with cll and i am living longer. thanks to imbruvica. imbruvica is a prescription medicine for a

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he changed out of those clothes and according to the sheriffs here, he has been cooperating fully, but of course no charges have been filed as of yet. >> and then, lucy, we're hearing from the armorer who is generally the person who handles the weapons on the set for the movie, and the armorer in this movie spoke previously about another production. what are you learning? >> reporter: that's right. the affidavit named her as hanna gutierrez. we understand she's 24 years old. she was trained by her father, who was a legendry gunsmith. he started training her when she was 16 years old. we understand based on this podcast that she worked previously in another production with nicholas cage, a movie called "told way" where she served for the first time in her career as head armorer and she shared doubts she had about her ability to do a job in that production. take a listen. >> dad has taught me everything, but a lot of things, you know, i kind of just caught on by myself and everything. >> observation? >> yeah, just observation, watching him do things or just knowing how the firearms work.

he is not going to cooperate. >> i mean, you know, i -- i put that in there just to say even if you win, that may be what you get. someone who mocks and makes a joke of the entire process. are -- are you confident that you will actually get bannon to tell you the -- the real -- the real story? >> well, we'll see. but he's obliged to do so and his bogus claim that he doesn't even have to come in is ridiculous. i mean, you know, he needs to come in. he needs to testify. he needs to provide the documents that we've asked for. it's his moral obligation. it's his legal obligation, and we expect him to fulfill that. >> so your committee, i know, was supposed to sit down today with the former trump chief of staff mark meadows. you postponed his appearance. so, you know, meadows is different because when you point out steve bannon claiming executive privilege, not only is trump not the executive anymore but, of course, bannon was not an employee of the executive. but meadows was different, right? he was the chief of staff at the time working for the president in the white house and he is claimi