we're kind of using the word bill here loosely. a framework is not a bill. you can't vote on a framework. you need legislative text. you talk about negotiations still going on here. my last guest talked about negotiations still being on on his issue he cares about. i wonder if you feel like the issue of paid family leave is settled and whether that is acceptable to you? >> i don't think it is settled. in fact, i asked speaker pelosi last night directly is this out or not? and she said we are still futuring for it. so we do not give up until the bill is being voted on. and i am hopeful that we can get something in there pertaining to it. this is bill is trance formational in so many ways. i think it's going to really help american families. the i just hope some day we can get this paid family leave done because it's not right for us to be the only developed country in the world that does not have a national family leave program. >> if it's out of this bill, is that a deal breaker for you? or are the benefits of the bill outweigh the frustration of not being a

>> well, i believe that -- i do believe both bills are going to pass and i think that both bills -- a big reason both bills are going to pass is because the american people supported an enormous caucus of 95 house progressives to defend these kinds of investments. now, what i will say is that passing the so-called bipartisan infrastructure bill alone could and potentially will have net negative effects on climate and on top of everything else, on top of the potential risk of not securing these generational and once in a lifetime investments, that the risk of doing harm to our climate right now is something that we cannot afford. >> yes. very well put. congresswoman, i've been quite clear about the fact we in the media failed to accurately report on the bill as a $3.5 trillion package over ten years. your party failed on the messaging, too, hasn't it? why don't democrats refer to this as a 350 billion-dollar a year spending bill as they refer to the bloated defense budget as $700 billion a year and not $7 trillion over ten years? >> i wish we did. i wish we did. i think there is two fa

by the way there's not enough money in the bill to get that in the bipartisan bill. so we got to have those discussions. but failure is not an option. if any of us this whole caucus not deliver this once in a lifetime bill pass, not fix our roads and bridges which are already comparable to any third-world country in the world, we've got to make it work. so probably a good thing this weekend people are taking a good breath recharging, and we've got to go right back at this and get it done. >> can i ask you finally and quickly -- don't the american public have a right to know what their senators and the positions they take are? >> absolutely. >> we don't know much about what senator sinema is opposing in the $3.5 trillion. i'm not saying she needs to negotiate in public, but do you as a member of these negotiations, do you trust if the bipartisan infrastructure bill goes forward senator manchin's and senator sinema's words on what they support will actually stand? i feel like senator don't trust their word and that's why they want to see this move before they vote on t

bill, too. i want roads and bridges but we need to get them together and i promise we'll get this done and get them to the president's desk and have not only roads, joy, but we will have families who can actually use those roads as they have child care and all of these other things we're fighting for. >> congresswoman, thank you for scrambling quickly to get on the show. appreciate you being here tonight. thank you so much. i want to bring back in senator harry reid. you heard senator jayapal, can this process work if they get an agreement that isn't an actual vote on a bill, right? if it's just an agreement in the united states senate that says we will craft a bill with x, y and z in it that sinema and mansion say they're okay with and agree and shake hands and say that's fine. in your mind, is that binding enough to make it possible for progressives in the house to vote for the bipartisan bill? >> in my opinion, i think they better be careful. the senate is a place to get things done. the sena

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we want the infrastructure bill passed. we want the build back better bill passed. americans deserve it. it's an economic agenda. it's not social. when you look at childcare, women want to get back into the workforce. many are black and brown women. they don't have the money to pay for childcare. we need to provide the childcare provision so they can get back to work. this is all about economic growth, economic benefits. it's paid for. >> yeah. let me highlight something that stood out in senator sinema's statement which reads, i have never and would never agree to any bargain that would hold one piece of legislation hostage to another. she's been talking to the white house, talking to the president. is there any way she could not have known that the bills were linked? >> well, we're not holding bills hostage. we're saying we are fighting for the american people, for the biden agenda. president biden campaigned on these provisions of these bills in terms of investments, in the green economy, good paying union jobs, the child tax credit, in childcare and priorities f

health care bill, this is an education bill, they do that sort of but it's not the lead item. and the build back better, i don't know, what does that mean. called the health education will fill bill, and then really sell, i don't think there's much pressure as a result, there's no pressure on the republicans, and how much pressure on manchin and sinema to come around faster than they have. >> so, professor, over to you, this joe manchin who has now been mentioned it's 23 after the hour, we've mentioned his name five times. his direct tractors say that's fine with him, this is a spiders ox exterior, but one such joe manchin of west virginia, has virtually cleaned out all the green energy provisions, there were so important to biden, and so important to democrats on the left. does this make him, because we in the medium need labels, the most powerful man in washington? >> it's pretty darn close, brian, i mean just the way our institutions are set up, right. folks may not like it, but at the end of the day, congress puts the check on the executive branch, and the fact that the pr

in this past session, we've passed at least ten anti-abortion bills, so this texas-style abortion bill is not really needed here in arkansas. >> emily, there is this argument to be made that i've heard quite often from legal scholars about the fact that abortion clinics should continue to offer abortion services, even in states that seek to restrict abortions. for instance, in texas. because it seems as if folks that are anti-abortion rights are not willing to go the in actually prosecuting anybody, because they know if the constitutionality of sb-8 is challenged, it will fail. >> you will see there is really restricted access in texas right now, because of the threat of these lawsuits, the vigilante justice approach is very concerning to providers. and i think the anti-choice, people who are behind the law, who worked with anti-choice legislatures have been somewhat disciplined in not just bringing a flurry of suits, but we know that that could happen at any time. and at the end of the day, the chilling effect of a law like texas is, whether care remains safe and legal in the state. t

and the build back better bill, a bill that doesn't yet exist by the end of next week. so, the house trying to move fast, trying to capitalize on this perceived mo

bill. progressives signalled they would block the vote and the bill if there was no vote on the social infrastructure bill. this week, the president and his top aides have been deeply involved around the clock in talks with the hill. here's what press secretary january psaki had to say about the state of those negotiations today. -- we'll work on finding that for you. the "washington post" laying out the stakes for the democratic party writes this, quote, the consequences for inaction remain great. democrats believe they seized control of the white house and congress in the 2020 election in part by championing biden's campaign pledge to build back better through sizable new investments in the country's inner workings. a failure to deliver could damage their standing in the eyes of voters ahead of the midterm elections in 2022. the gridlock, though, in congress comes at a perilous moment for the biden presidency, flagging approval ratings revealing a real serious need to turn the momentum ba

, and the value contained in the bill or the return on investment in the bill. and i'm not arguing for one size of bill or other, but there is this erstwhile republican obsession with debt that shows up, sometimes, usually with respect to social spending, is entirely forgotten when it comes to military spending or wars or tax cuts. and so now we're in this battle between a $3.5 billion, trillion-bill and a $1.5 trillion bill or whatever it is, but we have lost sort of what i think is the correct way of thinking about any government spending, and that is, what does it get us? >> well, that's a big -- that's a reflection of a problem that i feel has afflicted both the business world, but also lawmakers in washington, which is this trap of short-term thinking. so, of course, a lot of the very expensive provisions in the bill, like child care, like making elder care possible for people, helping to subsidize student loans, those are not costs, those are investments, and the returns on those investments will take time. those are things that will be rewarded over time,

now the time comes to pay the bill, and republicans don't want to pay the bill. they want democrats to be stuck with the burden so they can go back in the election and they democrats raised $10 trillion in the debt ceiling, but they contributed to it themselves. >> i understand you've been able to assess out what was said in the letter. what are we hearing from the minority leader? >> this is why we're always looking down at our phones when we're on television. things happen fast around here. we have obtained this letter from minority leader mitch mcconnell he sent to president joe biden urging biden to tell democrats in the senate to get in line on the debt ceiling and to pass it so they can avoid a cataclysmic event economically. i want to read a piece that struck me. he says that your lieutenants in congress, this is mcconnell addressing biden. your lieutenants in congress must understand that you don't want your unified democratic government to sleepwalk toward an avoidable catastrophe when they had nearly three months notice to do their job. mcconnell goes o

bill. >> he was very clear that you are tied together. he said i support them both entirely, if i thought i could do arena i would. but, we need to get this reconciliation bill. and you know, it's going to be tough. we are going to have to come down on our number and we're going to have to do that. we'll get to work and see what we can get to. >> how much time is he giving? on this >> there's no timetable. >> the president was extraordinarily well received in our caucus, she never saw more packed house standing room only. he spoke from the heart. with great honesty. about what we can do, both with the infrastructure bill, but also with what he calls the human infrastructure bill. he said instead of picking a number, would i ask a view, this was literally his call to action for us, when i ask for you, are the programmatic things that must be in the bill. and then we can do the math from their. >> nbc news reported biden did tell democratic lawmakers, this is interesting, they needed to come

he doesn't think the two bills, the infrastructure bill and the smaller roads and bridges bill and the larger reconciliation bill which contains many more of the biden priorities. he doesn't see any reason why it should be done simultaneously and part of what folks are talking about. how do you bring moderate democrats and progressive democrats together. he said we need two more votes and he is, of course, referring to joe manchin and krysten sinema, the senators from west virginia and arizona respectively. i'll be talking to jamie raskin, one of the impeachment of donald trump and i will ask him about this when he joins us. i want to talk about covid, a somber milestone is leading this week's covid news as the country grapples with the delta variant, more than 700,000 people have now died from covid in the united states, and that's according to the tally by nbc news. september was one of the deadliest months on record of the pandemic, particularly for younger age groups and the overwhelming majority of recent deaths were of unvaccinated americans and even as vaccines have become readi

mega bill to a 1.7 perhaps trillion. that top line number isn't even agreed to yet with a few democratic priorities like free universal preschool and climate change stuff, which they hope is going to be big and bold but also not yet decided an assistance with child care and elder care for seniors and disabled, jonathan. >> leigh ann, does this battle between the frogs and the parties and conservative or moderate democrats, the winner of this, are they going to have the upper hand going forward through the remainder of at least the midterms or biden party? have they figured out what's next? >> there's an element you need all 50 senators. joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have an outsized role right now, but that's why moderates are hoping superstrong and resistant bipartisan bills on roads, bridges, and highways. they know they've been ignored, left behind by leadership. they don't want it to happen again. there's not a lot of pressed in leadership as well and they don't want to lose their clout. and the moderates who usuall

the bill. there are a lot of things that ought to be amended out. we said early on that what the three issues are, voter protection of the infrastructure of our democracy, the infrastructure of wages and health care, which is our daily lives, and the infrastructure of our bridges and technology. instead of separating these things out. secondly, you know, first of all, the bill's name is freedom to vote. we don't have a freedom to vote. we have a right to vote. that should be amended. secondly, this is the first time in history we would have codified voter id as necessary for election integrity. that is straight trumpian, republican language. it's not true. signature is what has worked and should be there. also, what we see is he is slowly putting different things in that come straight out of the republican lingo. guess what? he said that he supported the for the peoples act. he was a signature when john lewis was alive. when john lewis died and the senate changed, all of a sudden he changed. he

bill. that is the one that focuses on bridges and roads and such. that deadline also marks when the 30-day reauthorization of the federal highway program expires. pelosi wrote in a letter to her colleagues that the bipartisan framework must be passed well before that date to save people's jobs. the decision to delay the vote has already angered moderates in the party who wanted to pass the bipartisan bill on its own last week. however, progressives, which is a much bigger group of democrats all but ensured the vote would fail unless the $3.5 trillion package democrats are seeking to push through budget reconciliation could be passed at the same time. one of the so-called moderate democratic holdouts arizona senator kyrsten sinema issued this scathing statement calling their efforts quote an ineffective stunt to gain leverage over a deceptive proposal. president biden is caught in the middle of this one. he is voicing his support for passing both bills which is delivering a bit of a blow to

which is the bipartisan infrastructure bill. it's a great, bill and it's a huge accomplishment for joe biden, yet it's backbench-ing liberals have decided, they're going to hold him up because they're mad they don't have enough votes in the senate, to pass a multi trillion dollar progressive dream bill. it's one of these things where we're gonna win by punishing you mister president. and it's pretty crazy. i agree with david that eventually something will pass, but the opportunity cost of what could've happened, is pretty big. and the narrative is set in a way that biden is going to have to dig out of. now and of all this squabbling in all this ideologically left overshadowing the party, it's going to make particularly for the moderate democrats, very treacherous, which is how they can lose control. >> david, so the ball bounces back to you, let me ask you to help me clear something up. is this a progressive country as the liberal democrats insist on being called? the research shows joe biden won 16% of u.s. counties. donald tru

democrats are expecting a vote on both the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the build back better bill just in time for some key governor races in virginia and new jersey. we're going to have an update on those for you. i'm ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. >>> all right, so the investigation into the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol took a major step this week. on thursday the house voted to find former trump adviser steve bannon in contempt of congress after he defied a subpoena from the committee investigating the riots. nine republicans joined all house democrats in that vote, and now that resolution is heading to the department of justice where bannon could face possible criminal prosecution. the investigation into that deadly attack on the capitol, though, is still in its early stages, but if you ask former secretary of state condoleezza rice, it might already be time to move on. watch. >>. >> first of all, let me be very clear. i said at the time january 6th was wrong. i called it an assault on law and order and an assault on the democratic processes. now, i think what s

bill done. progressives say we won't do the infrastructure bill unless we get a commitment on the human welfare. both sides are playing against each other. what's really dangerous here for the president is not that, you know, look, ultimately if this gets done, nobody is going to remember the messy process that got them there. if they get to a compromise, pass both of these bills, all people are going remember for the most part is what they did, either like it or don't like it. if they don't get it done and they're taking a chance because they're on the edge here, that's a huge risk for this president, and they say there's no time to worry, it's six days or six weeks, maybe, but when you have a 50-vote majority in the senate, every day that's on the line, especially if you look -- this is not a young group of people in the senate. we're in the middle of a pandemic. you could alienate a senator who decides to leave the party, that's what happened in george w. bush in his first year when he lost t

bill? what specifically are they telling the white house they are against in this bill? >> the unfortunate part, that this is a continuation of the big lie. president biden won the election with more votes than anyone in the history of the united states. it was the most scrutinized election in the history of the united states. and it was one of the safest and most transparent elections. we have a republican party that refuses to acknowledge that, but also they know that their policies, their thoughts and the leader of their party is not popular with the american people. so if they can't win an election, they have to choose who can vote and who can't vote. that's what they're doing. voting should be a contest of ideas. and so far the ideas are not accepted by the american people. former president trump is still out creating chaos. and so they're just falling in line, unfortunately. they have deferred their will, their judgment, their intelligence to president trump and his big lie. and so we

i they makes it easier to fight for it in the next bill. this is not the last piece of legislation we pass in this congress. so we're going to keep fighting for that. >> let's talk about voting rights. democrats in your home state, texas, looking to you folks in congress to do something about the restrictive voting laws that have been passed in texas. you tweeted on thursday about the need to pass the john lewis voting rights act. right now as you know, not enough votes to get that through the senate as well. where do you and your colleagues take this particular fight and this current climate? >> yeah. well, we knew that we weren't going to have enough votes to pass the voting rights bill they brought up in the senate over the super majority requirement that the filibuster has imposed. i've said before i don't think a senate rule is more important than our democracy. and so we end up in this alley where our democracy is held hostage by the filibuster. and so i've argued and along with my colleagues, that we should have a carveout for voting

education bill. they do that sort of but it's not the lead item. and the building back better, i don't know, what does that mean? call it the health, education and welfare bill or something and then really sell the parts of it. so, i don't think there's that much pressure as the result. there's not that much pressure on republicans and not much pressure on manchin and sinema to come around faster than they have. >> professor over to you. this joe manchin who has been mentioned -- it's 23 after the hours. we mentioned his name five times. that's fine with him despite his ah shucks exterior. but he has virtually cleaned out a lot of the green energy provisions that were so important to biden and so important to democrats on the left. does this make him -- since we in the media need labels -- the most powerful man in washington. >> it's pretty darn close, brian. i mean, just the way our institutions are set up, folks may not like it but at the end of the day, congress is a check on the executive branch.

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bill we talked about so much. not as much as liberals, progressives hoped, 1.5 and $2 trillion, but down to the brass tacks of talking about the specific content of a bill that would cost about that much. so, i think, yes, i think it is -- you don't want to bet against an action with congress. but democrats are extremely encouraged at the end of this week that they are going to pass this bill next week, the infrastructure bill, have at least a framework for the reconciliation bill that they can deliver, and it is true what president biden said yesterday. he said this is a very big deal if they do this -- these pair of bills. this is a huge amount of money. it includes new programs on things like climate change and childcare. he said it was bigger than the affordable housing and i think that may be true. >> eugene, that's where i want to pick up with you. judging from your reporting and the mood of people you're talking to inside the biden white house, are there real hopes that a bill, any bill, will be passed befo

we're going to get a bill together. it's going to be a really good bill for the american people. >> some of the things that you mentioned, though, once they get through the house, there is always the problem of the senate and senators manchin and cinema have shown opposition to key parts of the bill. do you think the bill might stall in the senate after its passed on tuesday? >> i do not. we have made it very, very clear to the speaker and to leadership that we don't want to vote on a bill that isn't going to make it through the senate. house leadership is working very closely with the senate to make sure that whatever we vote on has essentially gotten the stamp of approval from the senate, all of the senators that we need in order to pass the bill, and i'm quite confident that the speaker and others in leadership will make sure that happens. >> and you mentioned getting provisions to lower prescription drug prices back in the bill. something i know a lot of american families are very concerned about. if this doesn't ha

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what's in the bill? we don't actually know what's in the bill because we actually haven't heard. so one of those problems right now, is that we don't know with some of those policies are that are going to be in the final bill. >> so chad i wanted to play referee for us, i know that you are not affiliated with either one of the two parties. but what do you make of these arguments out there in terms of the messaging and whether it is actually reaching voters in a way that they can understand what's in the actual bill. should that be made even more clear for voters? >> yes and i'm not a political commentator but i will say that there is a breakage in the information channel. i think to point the finger at the mainstream media is to miss the point that we're all sort of the mainstream media now if you aren't reaching people through the news to find news, to be -- news clips, information, or information shared their, whatsapp instagram, facebook, tiktok, whatever the case may be. and if people aren't taking the domestic responsibility to go seek out the information on their own. then

here is what is in the bills. there is a poll out that only 10% know a lot of the specifics in the bill. i kind of feel like manchin and sinema have taken advantage of that. everyone knows what infrastructure. it's trains, roads, stuff like that, bridges. but the other bill has been allowed to be sort of pushed aside. but it's the bill that helps the most people. so do you think that at this point now that now that the white house understands that he is going to get on that plane, biden, they ain't giving him the bill. and they t-bill won't happen until they get build back better. do you think that puts democrats in a stronger position to pass the substantive legislation? >> i do. and i think one thing that we have to remember, and i've been trying to stress this point, every single dollar that democrats approve and joe biden signs into law is one more dollar the republicans want to spend on anything. the republicans want to gut education. they want to gut health care in america. democrats are fighting to make it

, social spending bill. build back better. here was pelosi talking about that time line this morning. >> this is a senate proposal and they are supposedly writing it today and tomorrow would introduce it. >> the framework will be agreed to. there will be a deal -- >> let's call it an agreement. >> an agreement on that and you will also vote for bipartisan infrastructure bill. both of those things will happen in the next week. >> that's the plan. >> fingers and toes crossed. joining me now to talk about where negotiations stand democratic senator from acetaminophen tina smith. welcome back to the show. you have the president meeting with joe manchin today at home in delaware, nancy pelosi talking timelines for votes on live television. what do you know about where we are in terms of a deal? how confident are you, a house vote on the bipartisan framework at least will take place this week? thank you, mehdi. great to be back with you again. i am actually optimistic that we are going to get this all worked out.

those are the sort of things that need to be in the bill. but if you're looking to get the number down, there's always a way to do it. perhaps instead of 12 weeks of paid family leave, which i strongly support, you look at something a little less than that. maybe you say, all right, we're going to pass this for 6 to 7 years as opposed to the 10-year window. so if people are open-minded and committed to compromise, which i believe most of us are, there is very much a way to get this done. >> so, i appreciate the fact that you're bringing up what is in the bill. i'm going to have my director, rob, put that back up again. it's something the president is going to focus on now. he said, we've got to get out and tell people what's in the bill. do you think that the reaction from americans as what's in the bill is explained to them and they're not thinking about just numbers and infighting among democrats? do you think americans will get behind this overall and say, you know what? we need this. and so, go for it. >> yeah, that's why, i mean, every

with the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the reconciliation bill. it's all part and parcel to this larger conversation. so there is no deadline on the larger infrastructure package, but there are other things that are contingent on it that are important to look at. and i also think, jose, if you're the white house, a lot of people were surprised with the patience that president joe biden showed when he was here on friday, saying, fit takes six hours, six days, or six weeks, they want to get this done. for him, you have to remember. if you're a president that could pass something that democrats are likening to the first big policy package that's similar to fdr, it behooves you if you're a president who wants to leave a big legacy to have a little bit of patience. because the history books aren't going to remember the haggling over the deal, but they are going to remember what you ultimately got done. for democrats, that's the larger operating press here, too. >> yamiche, so how are officials at the white house reacting to this new timeline? apparentl

we have, in our build back better bill, provisions for housing. you know, there is a housing crisis in our country. many unsheltered people. we have people who can't afford to buy a home. we have, in our build back better bill, many provisions as it relates to middle class tax cuts, ensuring that the child tax credit stays in the bill, which will help reduce significantly poverty among children. when you look at workforce development, when you look at the climate crisis, again, when you look at all of the provisions in these bills, we're negotiating right now and we're talking about why, and the american people support this, and 98% of democrats support this in our democratic caucus so this is a negotiation. no one said it was going to be easy but we're going to continue to make sure that we put these investments in this bill so that people can -- and receive them right away. people need help with their lives and their livelihoods, and they need to know that we're going to do something to help them immediately. and so, these are negotiations that

we don't have a privacy bill. we don't have an anti-hacking bill. you could go on and on about lots of things. until we have just one piece of legislation that controls these companies, we're going to have this same outcome. and we were out there. whatever they feel like doing, we're going to have to do. the only power is the federal government to deal with this, and we'll see if they will. >> so, phil rucker, back to politics and the president you cover for a living. some democrats are concerned at the lack of a sales job for the biden agenda. other democrats are concerned that the abject lack of kind of anger and emotion behind what they need to pass. as far as you can measure, what's the level of concern right about now with the clock ticking in the west wing? >> brian, there is a great amount of concern in the democratic party, and there is concern among democrats because of the inability to get the biden agenda passed in some form or fashion. we're seeing progressives turn against the moderates, and two of them, congressman joe manchin and cong

to be a done deal. >> we want to move both bills in tandem and the second bill, the bill that deals with the needs of the working class of this country in terms of child care n terms of pre-k, that deals with the existential threat of climate, that bill is still being worked on literally today, it will be worked on tomorrow. >> it comes as president biden desperately needs a win. new polling out today from nbc news shows his approval rating is at its lowest point so far, down seven points since august, with 71% of americans saying the country is moving in the wrong direction. let's go right to nbc's mike memory joining us from rome. what do we expect to hear from the press as we await for his news conference slated a half hour from now. >> the president gets ready to wrap up his time in rome, we've seen the ways in which he's trying to patch up relations with some of our allies. look at the new nbc news poll, showing 70% of americans think the country is on the wrong track, including almost half of democrats, he needs to do some reassuring to americans back home. as we get ready for

we know that the infrastructure bill is not going to get done separately from the reconciliation bill. something the moderates wanted, something that the progressives want is $3.5 trillion, and we know that's almost certainly not going to happen because joe manchin has said that quite frankly for months. we're all going to have to meet in the middle for this. let's give some credit to the biden administration. we're talking about some significant change, likely to happen this fall. when we did health care through reconciliation in 2009 and 2010, the president didn't sign that into law until march. i think in many ways, as messy as some of this has felt, right, the sausage making we're all watching, the biden administration is actually ahead on the calendar. of course, you want this to be done without a lot of argument, quickly. i don't think that was ever going to be the case, and look, we have a majority of one person in the senate, we have three in the house. that makes everybody extremely important. and working through this is just what's going to have to happen. >> so this preside

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>> i think bill belichick definitely wants to win tonight. it's been a tough several months for him. ever since tom brady and the bucs went on that great playoff run last january, february, belichick has taken a little bit of a beaten with his ego and his reputation. a lot of people see, maybe it really was all tom brady who won all those championships in new england. and a lot of people, like myself, are seeing, why couldn't you figure this out? why is tom brady doing this in tampa and not a new england? why couldn't you find a way to keep tom brady as a patriot for the rest of his career? so, i think belichick, kind of quite the doubters a little bit, really could use a win tonight. and it would be a nice feather in his cap. because patriots are definitely the underdogs tonight. the buccaneers are the number one offense in the league. tom brady's got the ball rolling right now. the patriots might be a little shorthanded, personnel wise. they have a look quite as good this year. but if belichick can pull this off, i think that would look ver

and this bill vindicates all of their efforts. ten-year tax breaks for all clean energy technologies. a civilian climate call i've been advocating for is in there that will employ hundreds of thousands of young people in our country. a climate bank that i've been fighting for that will unleash 2 $00 billion of additional investment in clean energy technologies. so on climate, on so many other issues, this bill is historic. and compared to anything we've ever done in our history, really, you have to go back to the new deal in franklin roosevelt's era to find anything that's comparable. >> this passes your much repeated no climate no deal test? >> yes. when president biden is talking to other world leaders in glasgow next week, he'll be able to say confidently that the combination of what's in the framework of this bill and what he can do in the executive branch, increasing fuel economy standards with the vehicles we drive, for example, that the united states will reduce the greenhouse gases by 50% by the year 2040. that's the kind

the infrastructure bill, it's a good bill that we need. joe manchin gets tonight's last word. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. >>> well, good evening, once again, day 279 of the biden administration. the president once again making it clear he won't help his predecessor assert a claim of executive privilege to keep additional material hidden from the house committee investigating january 6th. president biden's white house counsel sent that message in a letter today over to the national archives. trump has filed a lawsuit, of course, to keep documents related to 16 out of that committee's hands. this week, that house committee could learn more about the organization, the planning of the rallies that took place in the weeks before the riot at the capitol, including the one that very same day. several people involved in those efforts have been scheduled to appear for depositions. starting today, the only known witness to defy a committee subpoena, that would be trump ally steve bannon. he awaits the fed's decision on prosecution for contempt of congress. we're also g

is not a safety net bill. this is a rocket booster job growth economic bill that's going to help american families get back on their feet and running with the provisions that are in this. i am so excited about the universal pre-k and the child care augmentation, allowing mothers and american families to get back to work with peace of mind. i'm so excited about the closing of the medicaid coverage gap extension of the aca hearing and the medicare. that allows individuals to get the care they need, stay healthy so they can stay in the workforce, reap the benefits of the income that they have. i'm so excited about so many provisions of the bill that even one of those as a standalone is going to be transformative. >> congressman, be our eyes and ears. you gave us a picture there, but how was it? what was the format? how did it go? >> it went well. the president walks in there's amazement the president of the united states is coming to help us close a deal. there was a very strong sense of optimism and he really la

we will pass both bills. and i am really proud of the progressive caucus this last week, because we got the two bills back on track. the bipartisan infrastructure bill was done, it was ready. but by saying that we're not going to leave behind women and families that need real change, we're not leaving behind housing that's desperately needed across the country and not leaving behind immigrants, we were able to say, let's get them both done together. 85% of the president's agenda is in the middle back better act. and five months ago, jonathan, he came from the white house to the capitol, laid the case out to us and we can't wait to get both bills to his desk. >> you laid out climate, immigrants, child care, housing. there's one more that i missed noting. how will you be able to do all of that within the confines of what now appears to be the range in terms of the number. before it was $3.5 trillion. now it appears to be between -- to be somewhere between $1.9 and $3.2 trillion. >> at $3.5 trillion, it was stil

without that bill, you can have texas which is now passing senate bill 47, election audit bill, they are fast tracking that to do the same fraudit. the same state that donald trump won. how do you stop this if federal legislation doesn't get passed? >> legislation is critical to stopping this. that is absolutely necessary. as senator manchin said inaction is not an option. we are seeing the results across the country. it is barrelling forward without breaks absent federal legislation. it is true that there aren't ten republicans that have signed to the legislation. it does have 50 democrats. it is a top priority. there are ways to actually move this through congress to get this over the hurdle given the state of the crisis we're in with just minor adjustments to how the filibuster works. >> last quick one to you, grant. as a democrat, how disappointed are you with your fellow democrats in congress? eight or nine months into the administration and nowhere near to a bill passing? >> well, you know, it's a tough crowd there. i think i give the president great credit for his agenda. real

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in the area of this budget reconciliation bill. when you do the polling, this stuff is broadly popular across both democratic and republican. >> that's what makes it so frustrating. >> it is, it is, and i think a lot of people have done analysis and other factors at, play how much money are people getting from various industries. i'm proud not to take corporate money, many of my colleagues don't. and just generally speaking, i come from a generation of folks, who are much more willing to do what's right by the american people, rather than compromise our values for the sake of compromise, i would submit. i think kirsten cinema can raise money without doing that kind of activities she's been doing. fleeing washington for example, to have a pack retreat, in the midst of the negotiation,. >> i was just gonna say the same, thing or two a ten from greater razors. you have to put out every, time you have to wonder who her big interest special interest donors are. and whether or not they have a stake in the outcome of these two bills. cong

>> you know, the infrastructure bill might come first. but i love my detroit lions. >> no mercy for people from michigan on this show. >> but go blue. we have not been beaten. so we are having a -- we have a very good go blue. >> there you go. way to save it. way to get those constituents. >> a 101 interview moment. >> i hear you. >> i'm in my blue from ann arbor. >> thank you, congresswoman, i appreciate it. i don't know if infrastructure is going to happen first. the lions are 0-4. we'll see how they do. >> ruthless. >>> coming up, if you're planning a trip for the holidays, you're running up against a deadline. booking it while it's affordable. why you could be facing skyrocketing vacation costs as soon as halloween is over. that's next. >> i just booked my ticket. i didn't find it affordable. >>> coming up, she has been dead for 70 years, so why is there a lawsuit over the death of henrietta lacks' cells? that's coming up at 10:00 a.m. eastern. coming up at 10:00 a.m. eastern. before. growing up in a little red house, on the edge of a

they have at least a framework for the reconciliation bill that they can deliver. and, it is true what president biden said yesterday, he said this is a very big deal if they do these bills. this is a huge amount of money, it includes new programs on things like climate change and childcare. he said it was bigger than the affordable care act, and that just may be true. >> eugene, that's exactly where i want to pick up with you. judging from your reporting and the mood of people you are talking to inside the biden white house, are there real hopes that any bill will be passed before joe biden leaves for europe? >> i think there are very hopeful, but as we've seen over and over and over again, they had the rug pulled out from underneath them by sinema and manchin, they are cautious optimistic. they are sure that they will get a framework on this reconciliation bill, and if they get that it's possible that progressives will go ahead and say we feel confident that we agree on this framework, we have the agreement of the moderate conservative democrats in the senate, we

the bill yet, and the president is not fighting for the full bill anymore. he seems to be fighting for what a compromise is that can keep everybody at the table. that compromise, it is not going to have everything you just described in there. there's going to be something that gives. is means testing something you're open to? >> i would just say we whittled down our priorities. we don't have a big laundry list of 8,000 things. we have five things that i mentioned. and those things i do think will be in this bill, but probably for shorter periods of time, funded for shorter periods of time. and that is is the important piece we're getting at. i think you and i have all this means testing conversation. so much of the means testing we've done in america has been absolutely really not constructed in a way that allows people -- that the very most ulvulnerable people to participate. incredibly complex, drives people away. the research shows that the most vulnerable are actually the most affected when you put a whole bunch of restrictions on, and by the way it cost

bill. it -- they do support it even though they've made some major concessions in order to get there by dropping things like paid family leave, free community college, and their programs have gotten much smaller. but it's about giving their support to a bill that senators sinema and manchin and other moderates are really want, the bipartisan bill while theirs isn't yet done. so it gets back to the trust issue. it gets back to trusting leadership. trusting the senate. and the progressives aren't there yet. but we do know that speaker pelosi wants to hold this vote today on this bipartisan bill. she said behind closed doors according to her source, while the president was there, that the president and the country needs this win to go overseas and tell the rest of the world that american democracy is not, in fact, broken. that it is still working. and so that is really what she's pushing for today. and we just learned in the matter last half an hour or so, that her leadership team is starting

was it a good idea for democrats to tie these two bills together? are progressives really going to get more out of the build back better act by holding up the bipartisan infrastructure bill and foregoing the good press that would have resulted from its passage? or are they doing the right thing in that they are linking the two together, which is what they wanted to do from the beginning, right away. it was their compromise to split this up to appease the conservative democrats who wanted to score a bipartisan win, when in reality everybody knew it was not going to carry over to both. >> right. i mean, i think this was maybe the only way for it to actually work. think about months and months ago we were talking about this as one humongous infrastructure bill and conservative democrats were saying, no, we're not interested in this bill at all. they split the bill and then you have a little more interest in the hard infrastructure aspect of this. i think tend of the day there was going to be a similar fight about what goes into this reconciliation bill