the fda giving full approval now to the pfizer vaccine and what this could mean for vaccine mandates in this country. and the news coming in from afghanistan tonight. the evacuations. how many americans, how many afghan interpreters remain? and will the president extend that august 31st deadline? tonight, the taliban with a warning if he does. >>> first, the coronavirus and tonight, pfizer now the first covid vaccine in the u.s. to be fully approved for americans 16 and older. until now, it had been given emergency use authorization, now full approval. found to be 91% effective at preventing the virus. federal authorities have long hoped this moment would help with the unvaccinated, providing additional proof of the vaccine's safety. what this could mean for vaccine mandates moving forward. what new york city has done. and companies, too. the united airlines tonight giving employees five weeks from today to be fully vaccinated. and all of this comes as more than 180,000 children get covid in just one week. dr. jha standing by, answering questions on all of this and the booster and wh

yet with the fda approval of the pfizer vaccine, dr. fauci suggested he thought 20 million or so might now get it. what is your sense of that how this official fda approval may change the trajectory here? >> reporter: i think a lot of us thought that would be sort of what pushes it over the top. certainly the doctors told me they believe this is a game changer. but the kaiser family foundation did a study before the approval by the fda asking those who were hesitant and it was about 7 in 10 said they won't get vaccinated even with the approval. 3 in 10 will get vaccinated. that's a significant number of people. in fact, i met a woman, amanda, who decided, even though she has heard now that it is approved, that it's just not for her. on top of this, her uncle is right now in the icu, a doctor held up a phone and her uncle pleaded with her to get the vaccine. and even as he's there dealing with coronavirus, in the icu, listening to the video, well, listen to what she had to say. >> you have those close to you that have coronavirus. >> rig

as the first fda-approved covid-19 vaccine, the public can be confident that this vaccine meets the fda's gold standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality that we require for an approved product. >> words that could not come a day too soon. that is because, as of this weekend, the country's back to averaging a thousand-plus deaths a day from covid. that grim figure hasn't been this high since march. in florida, over the weekend, hospitalizations set a new record for the entire pandemic with more than 17,000 men, women, and children in covid units, icus, and ers across the state. nationally, new cases are, once again, averaging close to 150,000 a day. that's nearly ten-times what they were in june and experts on this program have predicted they'll hit 200,000 a day before this latest surge is over. even as cases soar, vaccine hesitancy or even outright hostility remains. and while today's announcement might not persuade the hardest-core vaccine refusers, recent polling from the kaiser family foundation suggests one in three unvaccinated americans would be more likely to

to get this vaccine by the fda. so what president biden said today was kind of in line with the cdc guidance of what they had issued about kids going back to school, saying that make sure everyone you can around your child who isn't vaccinated and can't be vaccinated is vaccinated. that means parents and other teenagers who are eligible to get the vaccine. and he said make sure your kid is wearing a mask when they leave the house. >> all right, kaitlan collins, thanks so much. >>> meanwhile, covid cases and hospitalizations continue to rise. in florida the number of people dying from covid every day is at its highest point of the entire pandemic. and as cnn's nick watt reports, more local officials all over the country especially in florida are denying governors' block on mask mandates. >> reporter: the pfizer vaccine now fully approved for people 16 and over. >> this is a pivotal moment for our country in the fight against the pandemic. the public can be confident that this vaccine meets the fda's gold standard for

fda had to put something on that. now we're having to have people put out statements please don't take your cow's dewormin' medicine. >> we can check that off. >> the at the same time people that are taking their cow's dewormin' medicine, they are not taking a vaccine that nearly 200 million americans have already taken. a vaccine that science shows, medicine shows will actually significantly cut the likelihood of you getting covid and getting bad side effects from covid down to like .005. more of a chance to get struck by lightning. more of a chance to die from a tree falling on you than actually about having a negative side effect, serious negative side effect from this vaccine. now please, go ahead, take the horse dewormin' the. no, don't do that. what's wrong with you? can you show us the fda plea again that looks like it's straight out of the onion. this pretty much tells you where we are in 2021 where we have people who are dying, loved ones are watching dying, who aren't taking the vaccine, people who are -- we

and that's going to be an fda decision. it is entirely conceivable that they will judge, given the situation that we're seeing so many infections in children, and children going to the hospital, they may say that you can get it under an emergency or they may say given the safety concerns, not that there's any overly concerns, but given the safety precautions, they might want to wait a few more months. and again, we leave it up to them because that's a regulatory decision that when you're dealing with children, it's fundamentally based on safety. i don't think there's going to be any question that this is going to be effective in the children at that younger age. i have no doubt about that. it's going to be a safety issue. >> so you're talking really in the new year, you know, if it's october for the companies to get their data together, you said a little later for pfizer. >> no, a little later for moderna. >> for moderna, i'm sorry. so you're talking really it's unlikely we'll hear even if it's an emergency use authorizatio

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and also, how much data is the fda actually waiting for? the urgency to get the vaccines for younger children is quite extraordinary, now. i mean, right now, we're entering a period that is, arguably, the most dangerous time for children during the entire pandemic because we have the delta variant. we have 93,000 children, who are getting -- who have gotten infected in the last week. more than 200 kids are getting hospitalized, every day. and now, kids are going back to school. people are not using the same precautions, as they were before. and so, i think we need to raise the level of urgency and to really ask the question, how much data are we looking for? i mean, how many children need to be in these studies? what is the level of safety and the time period that we need? definitely, we want to make sure these vaccines are safe and effective. of course. we don't want any -- any corners to be cut. but we also need these vaccines pretty urgently, too. >> yeah. dr. leana wen, thank you. sanjay, appreciate it, as always. thank you. >>> coming

is the cdc getting ahead of the fda on this? and i think that's what's causing some of this frustration at the fda. >> yeah. well, i mean, the fda, they're scientists and doctors and the other people are politicians. >> right. and they need to look at data. they got to make the case. this isn't just about, hey, these shots should go to other places in the world. do we need them? that's going to be the question they really need to answer. >> a new study estimates that masking and testing in schools could help prevent covid infections, masking and testing. what does the science say? >> so this is looking at all the observational studies and all the modeling studies that you and i talked about last week. and they basically are saying when we put this all together, what is the modeling show? they say about 75% of students will be exposed to this virus and get these infections. so that's really significant obviously concerning. if you start to layer in these strategies, that's when they say that 24 to 50% with universal masking will

the fda is asking for more data. here's what the president of the american academy of pediatrics just told my colleague, wolf, yesterday. >> it's really important to make sure that we are approaching authorization of the covid vaccine for the youngest children with the same urgency we did in adults, because it really is a very urgent situation. >> so should the fda move quickly on this and try to get these young kids in the vaccine pipeline in the next couple of weeks here? >> well, erin, let me tell you this. i know we're both parents and think about how to protect our kids all the time. my kids are under 12. they're not eligible yet for a vaccine. and i want a vaccine available for them as soon as possible. but what i can tell you is this, in my conversations with the fda, they are very clear that their highest priority are covid vaccines for the broader population, including kids. but in order to approve a vaccine or authorize one for kids under 12, number one, the trials have to be completed. the data has to be s

. >>> tonight, the acting head of the fda admitting these are quote difficult times. two top vaccine officials abruptly designed and there is frustration inside the agency about the white house announcing there will be covid booster shots this fall before fda approval. the coordinator defending the move to recommend booster shots for all adults in the face of this reporting. >> this is pending fda conducting an independent evaluation and cdc's panel of outside experts issuing a booster dose recommendation. >> dr. jonathan reiner is "outfront". you've seen this from all sides. dr. reiner, you get these abrupt resignations at the fda and by the way, the context here is really important. the fda has no confirmed leaders. you don't have anyone formally confirmed and charged. officials are frustrated the way the white house announced boosters would be available for all adults next month. how much does all of this matter? could it hurt trust in the rack s -- vaccine process itself when you see the end fighting? >> it matters a lot, erin. l let's look what happened. the dire

pfizer has run a trial on a third dose and they've submitted that data to the fda, the fda is looking at that. but we don't know exactly with the safety issues might be. ice expect that they won't be serious. but if right now, with the full immunization is good enough, i would not encourage people to jump the line and try to get out there and be in the head of with the recommendations are. if we don't need it and even if there's a small chance that their dose might make you some way a little less healthy. why do it now? wait and see what the evidence looks like. come on america, were supposed to be people driven by evidence and data. let's not make stuff up. >> let's talk about evidence and let's talk about delta, which you've mentioned. a lot of kids are getting sick from delta in a way that we haven't seen before. one week ago, the president of the american association of pediatrics assent a letter to the fda saying quote -- obviously, you don't read the fda, but i wonder from your vantage point, do you have any movement on the side all a lot of epidemiologists out there are saying

the fda did their job as dr. hotez points out. it's one less reason to avoid your vaccination. >> once the pfizer vaccine receives full approval, what's the possibility of off label use? for example, would a pediatrician be able to write a prescription for a child under 12 years old or would a person who received the johnson & johnson vaccine be able to get a dose of pfizer? >> all of the above. and i think you're especially going to see -- i can't tell you how many calls i'm getting from people who got the j&j vaccine who feel abandoned. they want to know what to do. i think you will see a lot of physicians write uses for that. i think we're also going to see a lot of physician approvals for third immunizations, not waiting for september. and i think you will see some pediatricians write prescriptions, especially for the 11 year olds who are a year away from being eligible for vaccines. and i think it's going to be really important that the fda and cdc not ignore this, that they come up with a system in place, maybe create a regi

khanna, and katie porter, and members of congress, republicans and democrats wrote a letter to the fda, and said, hey, tell us the time line, tell us what data you have and what data you're waiting for, and tell us when all of that should be widely available. i have been optimistic that it would be by the end of september, early october, but it shouldn't be about my guess versus dr. collins, versus dr. fauci. we should all be on the same page and the fda should be much more transparent about all of the things that representatives ro khanna and porter were asking about. >> we're grateful for your expertise. i'm sure we'll talk again soon. thanks for your time this morning. >>> more on the pandemic's impact on the mental health of children. in one new study, half of parents say they kids experienced signs of depression or anxiety for the first time during the pandemic. joining us now, clinical neuropsychologist dr. bill sticksrou, author of the new book, "what do you say, how to

and also how much data is the fda actually waiting for? the urge ncy to get the vaccine for younger children is quite extraordinary now. right now we're entering a period arguably a dangerous time for children during the entire pandemic. because with the delta variant we have 93,000 children who got infected more in the last week. and now kids are going back to school. people are not using the same precautions as they were before, so i think we need to raise the level of urgency and really ask the question how much data are we looking for, what is the level of safety of the time period we need? definitely we want to make sure these vaccines are safe and effective, of course. we don't want any corners to be cut but we also need these vaccines pretty urgently, too. >>> coming up next one girl's struggling with covid. the support she got from her mom and medical professionals. also word on how best to protect millions of kids iclike her. >>> and later the implications of a judge's ruling today outlining how lawmakers will be able to get a loo

she's led the fda in various rolls for a long period of time. maybe she'll become the permanent commissioner. and i do think it's important in the midst of a pandemic to have a senate-confirmed commissioner that's not acting. but i think they're doing a good job right now with the approval. i think we would all like to see them move faster, but i don't know what the machinations are that are holding this up. >> we understand from moderna they don't have the data yet or the application for full authorization. so pfizer is ahead of the game here. but this could be a big change. thank you both. >>> and a large swath of the northeast is still drying out from that tropical storm henri this morning. more than 64,000 people left without power as the storm dumped several inches of rain from new jersey to massachusetts. now, a different storm system had a catastrophic impact in tennessee, with more rainfall over the weekend there and at least 21 people have died. 40 remain missing after heavy flooding tore through communities. we find nbc news correspond

the fda expected to decide at any moment on a booster shot to fight the virus. who will it be for and could everyone be next? dr. fauci is here to answer key questions. but first tonight, the rapidly deteriorating situation unfolding in afghanistan. the pentagon tonight has now revealed it is sending 3,000 american troops back into kabul to help remove a significant number of u.s. embassy personnel, as the taliban now sweeps across the country, taking control of at least 12 cities. the a.p. reporting late today they have now taken kandahar, too. the pentagon today saying the u.s. will send those thousands of troops back in over the next 24 to 48 hours, to help remove a significant number of american personnel. of course, all of this less than three weeks before the u.s. completes its scheduled withdrawal from the country. president biden would not take questions about the worsening situation on the ground there. but we are learning about a meeting at the white house just today. taliban fighters now seizing those 12 major cities, kandahar, the second-largest city

a lot of epidem aulshzs, doctors are saying the fda could move faster. we're ready for under 12s to get the shot. why aren't they moving faster on this, especially with delta cases surging among younger children? >> well, mehdi, this is a complicated situation. again, we don't want to be in a situation of giving children a vaccine without being absolutely sure that we have the dose right and we understand if there are side effects. and basically, the companies that have developed the vaccines have been running those trials, but they haven't yet submitted their data to the fda on a large enough number of kids for us to be absolutely sure. that data will get submitted next month in september. i'm sure fda will work quickly on it at that point, but again, it's just benefit/risk. kids are not just downscaled adults. there are things about kids you want to be sure you have really collected the evidence, and that's just going to take a little longer. i know people are frustrated about that, especially with school starting, but it's the safest way we can procee

the fda expected to announce a booster shot to fight the virus. who will it be for and could everyone be next? dr. fauci is here to answer key questions. but first tonight, the rapidly deteriorating situation unfolding in afghanistan. the pentagn tonight has now revealed it is kabul hpmo a significant number of u.s. embassy person personnel, as the taliban now sweeps across the country, taking control . but we are learning about a meeting at the white house just today. taliban fighters now seizing those 12 major cities, kandahar, the second-largest city in the country, the after began military releasing video claiming to show air strikes on taliban targets. and the map tonight. you can see the dark red there, those are provinces held by the taliban in april, just four months ago. and look at the dark red tonight. this is what the taliban controls now. roughly two-thirds of the country. tonight, a u.s. official saying the events in afghanistan in the last 24 hours were a significant factor in the decision by president biden to go forward with this

>> reporter: david, first, we expect the fda to give the green light tomorrow. and then on friday, a panel of government advisers is set to meet to discuss the benefits of the booster shot. if that panel signs off, we would expect the director of the cdc to recommend that third shot and shots would go into arms right away. also tonight, dr. anthony fauci telling abc news he believes that eventually boosters will be recommended for everyone. david? >> all right, a lot of moving parts tonight. victor, thank you. >>> and you heard victor report there on the scene in texas, as well. the governor in that state who fought against mask mandates now pleading for outside help, doctors and nurses to help with the situation in texas text. and tonight, a new announcement from that governor, so, let's get right to marcus moore, he's live in houston for us. marcus, what have you learned? >> reporter: well, david, texas governor greg abbott has just announc announced the deployment of 2,500 medical personnel to help hospitals across the state. and those hospitals right now are

>> well, chris, i wouldn't get ahead of the fda's announcement but we've been anticipating that this may come soon, the full approval of the pfizer vac seen. and this is important for a couple reasons. one is my belief is number one there were some people who may have been waiting for this and who may come off the fence so-to-speak to get vaccinated so it may help increase vaccination rates to some extent but i also think there are universities and businesses that have been considering putting in vaccine requirements in order to create a safer workplace or learning environment and i think that this announcement from the fda would likely encourage them and make them feel more comfortable in putting such requirements in place. one thing we've known for a while now, chris, given our experience -- go ahead. chris: no, i just wanted to ask you, drill down a little bit on this question of vaccines, because the president biden already set out a schedule for giving out these third vaccines starting on september 20th. here was cdc director rochelle walensky this week. >> even though our vacci

so i think we need answers from the fda. if the problem here is that the acting commissioner isn't up to speed or being slowed down, we do need to turn to pushing to the appointment of a permanent commissioner. so i think the preliminary question is, what is the status, and what are the next steps? >> i want to play something that florida governor ron desantis is being outspoken out about now. we mentioned you are a parent, he's a parent of three kids himself. he's saying that quarantines for kids exposed to covid should be a choice left up to their parents. listen to this. >> i think quarantining healthy kids deprives these kids of an ability to get an education. now, maybe a parent would want a healthy kid to be quarantined if there's an exposure, but i think that should be the choice of the parent. >> there is cdc guidance on this. there are some exemption it is both kids in class are wearing masks or not. but on its most basic, what do you think the advice that governor desantis is handing out? >> i'll just say that he i

they've said it's up to the fda, saying this is what's been recommended. the president saying this last week that he and the first lady will get their shot when it's time. this is something they've supported for quite sometime and saying that it's -- they're following the guidance from the cdc and fda. if that's what they're recommending, that is what the country should follow. >> they've moved the ball a little bit. there are more people getting vaccinations as we see this horrible surge in covid. thanks to all of you. i know we're all going to be watching what happens in afghanistan as secretary austin said, we do not know what the final outcome will be. >>> coming up, he oversaw president obama's troop surge in afghanistan. mike mullen's surprising take on the afghanistan drawdown, next. start your day with crest 3d white and from mochaccinos to merlot, your smile will always be brilliant. crest 3d white brilliance. 100% stain removal, 24 hour stain resistance to lock in your whitest smile. crest. the #1 toothpaste brand in america. we did it again. we

that's what the fda needs to be talking about right now. for those unvaccinated, they're too nervous that these rules and regulations have been charged. they say one thing at one point and then they change it. it it's not a mandate. in the end it seems like a protocol. >> frank luntz, appreciate it as always. thank you. >> thank you. >>> democrats arerallying to pass a key item by president biden. how long will they continue their infighting? they're trying to get this resolution to his desk. and there you have it- woah. wireless on the most reliable network nationwide. wow. -big deal! ...we get unlimited for just 30 bucks. sweet, i get that too and mine has 5g included. that's cool, but ours save us serious clam-aroonies. relax people, my wireless is crushing it. that's because you all have xfinity mobile with your internet. it's wireless so good, it keeps one upping itself. >>> more breaking news. just before his remarks on afghanistan, president biden vowed to keep hope for house democrats, passing a $3.5 trillion budget resolution. but

the pfizer vaccine could be fully fda approved as soon as monday. millions of people have received the two dose pfizer vaccine under emergency use authorization. the moderna vaccine is expected to be fully approved in the fall. experts believe full approval will make a difference and convincing some people to get vaccinated. but perhaps more importantly, it could lead to a surge in vaccine mandates. today, the cdc reported 135,494 new cases of coronavirus in the united states. across the nation, the weekly average for covid hospitalizations is 11,521. that's an increase of 14.2% from the week before. in six states, alabama, florida, louisiana, mississippi, oregon and washington, new admissions of patients with coronavirus are currently at their highest levels since the start of the pandemic. hospitalizations and infection rates for children are also on the rise. nbc news reporting, as of wednesday, u.s. hospitals were attending to an average of more than 1200 children a day. twice the number from the end of july. alabama admitted nearly 260 kids bet

>> who cares about the fda? >> 30% of the people who haven't been vaccinated apparently. >> greg: i put things in my body that aren't fda approved. >> i was a united states marine, i've gotten every vaccine you've heard of, i may not even be a good source of information on things like this. it will make your legs fall off, i don't know. >> imagine if you lived your life by fda approval, you just sit there? >> greg: i'm always trying to seek fda approval. >> there was a great point buried in your monologue there. >> greg: go ahead. >> black americans are a group that does not have a high rate of vaccination and yet they keep coming after people as if it's some kind of wet conspiracy. 36% of black americans trust the police, that's a low number but it's higher than the number who have gotten vaccinated. after all the relentless propaganda from blm and critical race theory, the black community still trust the medical establishment less than the police? >> insane point from mr. ascot. up next, they say the vp is the

linsey, that pfizer fda approval is potentially hours away, and the u.s. surgeon general tells abc news that he anticipates that it will help convince those americans who are on the fence to finally get a shot. linsey. >> marcus, thank you. >>> there is still much more ahead on "world news tonight" this sunday. >>> tracking tropical storm henri. we'll go back to rob marciano who is standing by and the wildfire emergency in northern california. the fire destroying hundreds of buildings. what authorities are now saying. all the time in the world. it's just a saying. but today, for women living with hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer. more time is possible with verzenio. proven to help you live significantly longer when taken with fulvestrant. verzenio + fulvestrant is for hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer that has progressed after hormone therapy. diarrhea is common, may be severe, or cause dehydration or infection. at the first sign, call your doctor, start and antidiarrheal, and drink fluids. before taking verzenio, tell your doctor about any fever, chi

but i felt a little bit that way, about the fda process. like it does seem a little weird there is this emergency use authorization, there's literally hundreds of millions of shots going into arms, what is the difference, why now, what is this mean? >> that's a great question chris. and i think you are not alone and asking this question at this point, the emergency use authorization is something that's only used in a time of public health emergency, like a pandemic, in that situation, the fda will review the vaccines, and not look at them for his long a period of time before they actually approve them for use, so what's different about what happened today, is that the vaccines is been studied for six months, which allowed them to look at more safety data more efficacy. in addition to that, the fda actually looked at the manufacturing processes and chemistry aspects of the vaccine, that we're not looked at in greater detail, since the other-ization was made. the key thing from my perspective is, look by issuing emergency use authorization, w

i think the fda took its time, it did a careful review. i wish they had moved a little faster, but i'm really, really happy to see this full approval. >> we brought back the number of deaths because sanjay, we're back to more than 1,000 americans dying every day, almost all of them unvaccinated. and that's the highest this number's been in five months. do you think that this news is going to bring that number down? >> um, well, the thing about vaccines, jake, is that they take a while to work. i think it's great news, don't get me wrong, but there are some strategies as we've talked about in the past like masking which worked much more quickly, and masking, by the way, should still be part of this conversation because we still have high virus transmission in most of the country. you get the vaccine, you got to wait a few weeks, you get another shot, and then it takes a couple of weeks after that. so really five, six weeks before you see the impact of people started getting vaccinated today because of approval. so it will have an impact but

. >> tonight, on "all in" -- >> the fda has given its full and final approval. the moment you have been waiting for is here. >> a big announcement from the current president, as the last one cowers before an anti-vax crowd. >> i did it. it's good. take the vaccine. but you got -- no, that's okay. that's all right. you got your freedoms. >> tonight, why the pandemic is somehow worse than ever in states like florida. how a failure of leadership helped make it so. and why fda approval of pfizer could change the game with vaccine requirements. >> then, how stephen miller and the anti-immigrant zealots in the trump white house helped create the refugee crisis in afghanistan. and what we're learning tonight about the latest alleged maga bomber charged with threatening to use a weapon of mass destruction to blow up washington. "all in" starts right now. >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. i can't believe i'm about to say this, but here it goes. right now, in the state of florida, as of today, more people are dying per day than at any point in the covid pand

. >> now that there are things that are fda approved, that makes it a little bit more comfortable. i did need to see a little bit more research, some fda approval at the very least. >> reporter: and for the millions of fully vaccinated, that third shot, a booster shot, just weeks away. officials say it could be available by mid-september. now more evidence americans will need it. an updated cdc study of 4,000 front line workers found that vaccine effectiveness at preventing any infection dropped from 91% to 66% from april to august, a drop that was likely fueled by the delta variant surge and a waning of vaccine efficacy over time, especially for health care workers who were among the first in the nation to be vaccinated. >> and victor, i want to get right back to that study. when you see the efficacy waning over time, we should point out that these vaccines are still very effect 2i6 against severe dsease and hospitalizations, but the numbers are driving the argument for that third shot, a booster shot, which federal authorities say could be available by mid-september. >> reporter:

and number three, the fda full approval. which is the number one factoid, the number one truth point that the public has been looking for. those three combined means that over the next 30 days we're going to have the biggest impact in getting people vaccinated. the good news is that those three together will convince about half of those who have not been vaccinated to get the jab. here's the bad news, anderson. it means that when we are done we can project that we'll reach about 75% vaccinated. 75% toward herd immunity. i'm not a scientist. i'm not a medical expert. i know that the numbers should be 85%. so it makes me nervous that we're never going to get there. >> you've made the point in the past that parents you've polled on this issue who don't want their child to wear a mask think they are actually protecting their child. so when it comes to the vaccine, is it the same thing? i mean, do people think they are protecting themselves by not getting the vaccine or i guess the argument would be they're protecting themselves

. >>> >>> plus t "new york times" says that the fda is looking to approve the vaccine. >>> and tropical storm henri makes landfall triggering flash flooding and knocking out power for thousands of americans. the question is what is the full scope of the damage? it's "way too early" for this. ♪♪ >>> good morning. it's "way too early." we start with the news. president biden says the u.s. military is executing a plan to increase access to kabul's main airport. amid mounting criticism, the president defended the u.s. troop withdrawal, telling reporters yesterday that the exit from afghanistan was always going to be difficult. >> let me be clear. the evacuation of thousands of people from kabul is going to be hard and painful no matter when it started or how it began. there's no way to justify it. it's just a fact. my heart aches for those people you see. our first priority in kabul is getting american citizens out of the country as quickly and as safely as possible. as we do this, we're also working to move our afghan allies who stood with us side by side and other vulnerable afghans s

not to mention pfizer asking the fda ultimately for approval for the third booster shot. do you think these steps will help win over vaccine sceptics one way or another? >> i think they're helpful. polls suggest that of the folks that have yet to be vaccinated, about a third might be swayed by full approval. it takes away some of the sort of faux narrative that suggests that these are just experimental vaccines. i think each one of these steps is important. more importantly, it really does open up for private entities, corporations, local governments to mandate vaccines without sort of the notion that you're trying to mandate a vaccine that's not fully approved. i think that's really the big impact for these full fda approvals. >> and delta airlines, of course, is doing, instead of mandating it, they're going to penalize people who don't get vaccinated starting november 1st the airline is going to charge their unvaccinated employees enrolled in their healthcare plan an additional $200 a month. the air lline says the average hospital stay for covid-19 has cost delta $50,00

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the fda says it will share information in the near future. meantime stefan california schools, must now be fully vaccinated or agreed to weekly testing. california governor gavin newsom announcing the requirement after large school districts, several of them in a state enacted several policies. in the center for disease control, cdc urging pregnant women to be vaccinated. hospitals and hot areas across the u.s. reporting disturbing numbers of unvaccinated mothers-to-be who were seriously ill with the virus. president biden met virtually today with business leaders from united airlines, kaiser permanente, and others to discuss strategies of boosting vaccination rates. the u.s. plans to deliver 837,000 fisa vaccines to caribbean nations that word coming out today. the region has sparked with a spike of infections and violent vaccine protests. and the world health organization will test three drugs to see if they could help treat coronavirus patients. the drugs are typically used to treat other illnesses including malaria, cancer, and immune sys

last week the american academy of pediatrics in a letter suggested the fda was moving too cautiously and urged approving vaccination of children as young as 5 years of age, even as testing continues. joined now by our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta and the co-director for the center for vaccine development at the texas children's hospital dr. peter hotez who's also author of the book "preventing the next pandemic: vaccine diplomacy in a time of anti-science." sanjay, president biden today said he's very concerned about unvaccinated kids going back to school. dr. fauci said the fda isn't likely to greenlight the pfizer vaccine for children under 12 until early to mid winter. so a lot of parents out there who are desperate to get their kids vaccinated. can you just walk us through the approval process the fda is going through and why it may take that long? >> yeah. i mean, you know, remember when we had the vaccines authorized for those 12 to 15 or 12 to 16 it was a bit easier because they bridged a lot of data from the adult trials and that were able to sort of make that

it's good to see the fda and cdc becoming a little more proactive about this. we've known for awhile that it appears the efficacy of the mnra vaccine, over six months the effectiveness of the vaccine begans begins to wayne a little bit but the vaccines remain super effective at preventing severe illness that would require hospitalization or death. we're starting to see a decline in the efficacy of these vaccines to prevent symptomatic illness. this is the first group of people who would be boosted would be the immune compromised. the u.s. has 3%, maybe up to 10 million people organ transplant recipients, cancer patients, they will be first. i think the second group should actually be health care workers. many of the health care workers -- >> interesting -- >> were vaccinated eight months ago. i was vaccinated on december 17th. so i think that we should in setting of a surging delta variant, i think health care workers should probably be the next group. >> so that's interesting. okay. but the surgeon general you heard two weeks ago he said the data didn't sugges

we didn't have the fda in those days. he just knew it was a common sense measure against a common sense enemy. that's what we're doing here. it is not too much to ask to prevent our children from getting a deadly disease, to get a safe, effective, free vaccine. and a huge majority has already done that. >> the school district in california is requiring not only teachers, faculty, staff, but also eligible students, any kid whose health allows them to get a vaccine who's 12 and older, why not go that far? >> well, we have not done that to date. if we can do that we may do that. this is not a decision we made yet. but, as you know, we typically have had requirements for our students. it usually has been reserved for when you get the final approval from the fda which we hope will be relatively soon. so that potentially could be a decision that we make. but right now let's start with the adults. let's start with the adults who have these children in their arms. we have a stewardship responsibility for these children. by the wa

the fda wants to see the data but i'm with you. i think the clock is ticking as we move to late fall and early winter, you want a vaccine for young children. i certainly hope we have one in place by them because children need this. >> you know, question, too, that i had asked someone earlier. if we look -- there is full fda approval in the coming weeks or months for this vaccine, that offers up a lot more flexibility for physicians obviously and offers up more flexibility for third shots. what about children under 12? about kids maybe close to 12, would that then allow a doctor to give the child that shot even if technically it hadn't been approved for someone under 12? >> you really should wait until there is approval for the emergency authorization. you can't make it up. i know there are parents out there for a fact taking 11-year-old or 10-year-old children and trying to get them vaccines. i know that's happening but we really should wait hopefully around the corner. we need this and the story just told by the reporter, i think

i think your point, bret,that the fda approval is coming here shortly is an important one. hopefully that will allow us to surmount some of the concerns or one of the concerns that people have. but, the numbers are what is so staggering here. 90 million unvaccinated. 99.9% if you are fully vaccinated to not have to go to the hospital for a serious illness. only 15% of the world, this is a context also, is vaccinated. you have more than 100 countries where less than 5% of the people are vaccinated. near in our own country we have access to these vaccines we should take advantage of it another fact, children are now getting sick from this virus. we were told last summer, last fall, last winter that that was very unlikely to happen. you now see children's hospital in many state including florida filling up because they are not vaccinated and probably people in their households are not vaccinated. we have to figure out how not we meet people in a mean way or violent way figure out how we meet people where they are, answer their questions and let them know if you believe it was

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when will the fda approve vaccines and dosage for them? >> it doesn't look like pfizer has yet submitted that to the vaccine advisory committee and the fda. we probably won't have that till mid-winter which is a problem because you have now the delta variant, you're heading into the winter months when this virus is more easily spread and you're going to have a group of fully susceptible people all in one place. that's not a good recipe. >> what do you say to parents who think the process for approving the vaccine for children younger than 12 is taking way too long? >> i don't think so. you want to make sure this vaccine is safe, safe, safe, and effective. so you want to make sure that you're going to be doing trials in 4,000, 7,000, 10,000 children. and then you're going to be giving vaccine to millions of children. so you want to make sure those studies are done as well as possible. i think we're moving as quickly as we can. it's just not that easy to move quickly when you're talking about doing big vaccine trials. >> the governor of oreg