she's an attorney and a former state director for bernie sanders and 201600 cross roles and effects. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. caleb b, let me go to you 1st because we've kind of bumped heads in the past about this issue here. what, what does socialism mean to you? and i really want to make it very clear here. i don't really want to go into the pros and cons of it. i want to talk about the meaning of it in, in the context of american politics because, well, everyone know it's, i'm a conservative, but i have to show my cards a little bit here. i'm really tired of conservatives throwing that word out is it is if it really means much anymore, go ahead. caleb in new york will the essence of socialism in the sense that karl marx and glad you're letting others wrote about the essence of it is growth and progress. the idea is the means of production. the banks, factories, major industries should be organized to serve public good and liberated from the anarchy of production and the chaos of the market. and if we can get beyond profits in command

okay, well i mean if it's that idea like, and i and i actually hear an echo of bernie sanders there and, and i have to admit ladon, it's turning into ancient history. but i've said repeatedly on this program and 2016, there were only 2 candidates that i follow that was donald trump and bernie sanders . ok. so because his message does resonate, resonate with people and with a lot of conservatives, believe it or not. ok, caleb, so i mean in the american context, because, i mean, i believed around the world. i've lived most of my entire life, not my adult life, my entire life in different countries in the world and all of them have had health care, all of them. okay. some of them better than others here. so why is it that america can take best practices? because that's the question i ask myself all of the time. go ahead, caleb. well, part of the rise of neo liberal economics, milton friedman and iran, and alan greenspan was pushing this notion that any involved by the government in the economy is by definition, socialism and leading to communism. and a lot of americans believe that if they

caroline: the senator from vermont, bernie sanders, currently pushing against any bipartisan adoption of the cryptocurrency amendment. it looks as though he is blocking senator pat toomey's request for unanimous consent to adopt that amendment. taylor: this is where i kind of love that our worlds collide. caroline nails it as she does every day on cryptocurrencies. some of the municipal bonds, as we figure out how to build a road and a bridge. some people were worried that build america bonds were not included. how are you think about the way in which we are doing this? >> this is the sausage making process of legislating. it is not pretty, not orderly, it does not always get the best policy, but overall you get to an outcome. they are still trying to push it in the house. not sure if it will make it in this one but it could make it in the next one. it is an ugly process, not pretty. but we think we will get there on the major things. romaine: the whole idea that the democrats, particularly joe biden, has pitched this idea that this really is not fiscal stimulus, this is more about lo

i mean, i always like to point out, no one who endorsed bernie sanders had was employed on the op ed pages of any of the 1200 newspapers in the united states. no newspaper in the united states ever endorse bernie sanders during any context whatsoever. yet over 30 percent of the american public loves him to death. so what does that say about the about how the media is representing its readership and it's yours? yeah. well ron, you know, because anything that and i have to be honest with you, bernie's been turning into more and more of a disappointment. but if we look at 2016 even 2020 in the primary kids. absolutely right. you know, which, let's ignore what 30 percent of the population actually thinks. okay. and if you don't report it, then it doesn't exist. isn't amazing how that works. go ahead. wrong. oh, absolutely. and then in both cases in 20162020. you know, and by the way, just i agree with you. bertie has been letting us out a lot of recent. but you know, putting that aside, i mean 20162020 m b c would show trump's empty podium instead of showing bernie sanders talking to are

that's why bernie sanders is excited. this bill could be entitled "more inflation faster." that's what larry summers has been trying to warn them about. and this bill is a further reminder that the biden administration is committed to treating illegal immigrants better than they treat americans. i think it's very significant that the biden administration refuses to tell us where they are sending people. last month they had 210,000 illegal immigrants that wean off, which is about the city of birmingham, alabama. we have no idea where they were sent. no idea how many of them had covid. no idea how many had criminal records. a friend of mine told me, we haven't verified verify the, that they are being flown into hawaii. if that turns out to be true then you're in a situation where the average viewer can't afford to go to hawaii for vacation but there are seats being taken on planes by an illegal immigrant. it'll tell you just how sick this administration is. >> laura: there needs to be legal action filed for demand of this information. the governors have a right to know what t

the democrats are caught in the logic of bernie sanders andoc aoc and the left wing of the party. this bill could be entitled socialism now that's why bernie sanders is excited could be more inflatione and faster that's what larry has been trying to warn them about and this is a furtherre reminder that the biden administration is committed to treating illegal immigrants better than they treat americansra tt i think it's very significant the biden administration refuses to tell us where they are sending peoplela last month they had 210,000 illegal immigrants which is about the city of birmingham alabama. have no idea where they were sent. we have no idea how w many have covid or criminal records. a friend of mine told me but we cannot verify they were )ci4 afford that turns out to be true in a situation where you the average viewer cannot afford to go there for vacation but i i seats were taken up by an illegal immigrant that is how sick the administration is. demand the governors and demand the governors and states have a right to know what the government is doing to change

you know, it's bernie sanders reconciliation ideas that are going to get put through. look, we have had moderate democrats mentioned before. that the progressives takes on crime and so forth, you know, almost cost him the election. nancy pelosi can only spare a few seats. and what is most instructive about the case you mentioned about the eviction continuing this, joe biden is continuing even after he admitted he doesn't really have the constitutional authority to do that. and one reason that nancy pelosi and want him to do it is i think they are not sure they have the votes or don't want to go on record. that's one of the things about the progressive experiment they really don't want to put it to the legislative test and to go out there and have votes. they would much rather have executive orders and so forth. that speaks to the deep down fears a lot of this stuff is not popular. >> this get's to the left's argument during the trump administration that he was busting up norms and getting things done through executive orders which the opposing party is always going to

thousands and thousands of the republican people with the bernie sanders supporters and people donating the only person they have never ever known as bernie sanders but they just want to get their kids back in school. i've been in the congress last five years fighting the superduper majority i have seen what is wrong with our state government and why the greatest a in the nation is now last and just about everything. i know what to do to start fixing things on day number one to translate the greatest citizens movement into the fundamental change that we need with profound national implications. >> right. and then the latino community i can tell you that because i was part of the and my family i have a lot of family there. they are frustrated with governor newsom they are unhappy with the way he is running the state. the unemployment rates are skyrocketing. taxes are skyrocketing. latino families are strong nuclear families. they were card and they need the jobs. they want someone who can lead the state. they don't care who it is. they want someone who knows what they are doing. someone

sanders and the have a lot of pressure on it. maria: what is the motive, kim strassel from the wall street journal wrote a great op-ed this weekend, chuck schumer in his shadow and it's all about he's mimicking everything the alexandria ocasio-cortez is trying to do because he's going to get a challenger, aoc will try to unseat him or get a challenger to unseat him. is that what this is about for chuck schumer to stay on the job. >> i think her analysis is ringing true with me. the far left has taken over the democrat party and the pressure that chuck schumer must be under his enormous allowed bernie sanders to offer this build is 3.5 trillion which we talked about before probably will wind up being north of $5 trillion when it is over, what he's done is move the entire democrat contingent so far left to the point it looks like aoc is calling the shots right now. maria: before we move on to the border, what kind of taxes should we expect from the 5 trillion-dollar bill coming in the fall now that the senate has paved the way for,

john, it's clear that the 2016 campaign with bernie sanders and hillary clinton, even hillary clinton weighing in supporting shantel brown. that race is still a defining moment here between these wings of the party. >> ironically, though, bernie sanders has been working very closely with joe biden throughout this whole time. i'm sure nina turner will do the same thing if she prevails, but we'll see. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. >>> up next, gymnast simone biles back competing in the tokyo games. my name is monique, i'm 41, and i'm a federal contract investigator. as a single parent, i would run from football games to work and trying to balance it all. so, what do you see when you look at yourself? i see a person that's caring. sometimes i care too much, and that's when i had to learn to put myself first, because i would care about everyone all the time but i'm just as they are. botox® cosmetic is fda approved to temporarily make frown lines, crow's feet and forehead lines look better. the effects of botox® cosmetic may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symp

john, it's clear that the 2016 campaign with bernie sanders and hillary clinton, even hillary clinton weighing in supporting shontel brown. that race is still a defining moment here between these wings of the party. >> ironically, though, bernie sanders has been working very closely with joe biden throughout this whole time. i'm sure nina turner will do the same thing if she prevails, but we'll see. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. >>> up next, gymnast simone biles back competing in the tokyo games. as your business changes, the united states postal service is changing with it. with e-commerce that runs at the speed of now. next day and two-day shipping nationwide, and returns right from the doorstep. it's a whole new world out there. let's not keep it waiting. (“lovely day” instrumental) my heart failure diagnosis changed my priorities. i want time for the people i love. my heart doesn't pump enough blood so my doctor gave me farxiga. it helps my heart do its job better. farxiga helps keep me living life and out of the hospital for heart failure. do not take if allergic to farxi

between bernie sanders in the campaign of black lives matter or some of his conversation we overheard with occupied wall street. and at the moment occupying and taking off black lives matter and we were wondering some of us, why weren't these things coming together and it'ss like abolitionism, why are they going in separate directions. talk a little bit about the move of the white progressives and why you thought it was so important to lay out because i didn't have language to say oh here is what that was of this is fascinating or that seems familiar talk about that chapter layout why in some ways it at the heart of the book. robin: yes it and if i understood you correctly, acknowledging that you have experienced these moves. if you been on the other end of these moves. i'm a jet engine educator and i think that one of the things and entered i like to break it down and show it but it looks like it. here's how i can show you how to understand it and how it's functioning so the book is about the ways in which we arbitrate racialf harm. and then i to make that very clear. and i've been o

a moderate member of the party just beat a progressive race backed by bernie sanders in ohio. but how did donald trump's candidate do? >>> all that as coronavirus poses new threats to public health, the american economy, and all of those elected leaders who should have the power and prerogative to do something about it. >>> also, police officers who responded to the capitol riot are being awarded with the congressional gold medal. if legislators can't agree on that unanimously, why is it so elusive on capitol hill. good morning, good morning and welcome to "morning joe." we will begin with the 165-page report issued by new york attorney general letitia james. which alleges that new york governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed almost a dozen women, including employees in his office, and violated state and federal laws. cuomo is denying the accusations and has vowed that he will not be distracted from his job. but calls for his resignation are adding up. nbc news correspondent rehaima ellis has the latest. >> reporter: new york attorney general letitia james calling the blisteri

bernie sanders used to be in the periphery of american politics in the democratic party now he's writing the budget for the united states of america and probably will pass in some form. tell us what is in it so people can get a sense how big this is. >> that budget reflects that everything from a civilian climate core to universal pre- k free community college also align about lowering the medicare eligibility age. it doesn't say so i guess that is a committee to decide that but the key thing to understand is a lot of these are huge creation and expansion of entitlement programs and even if this budget can only find them for a time-limited number of years because of the reconciliation rules the democrats are betting that once there is a universal pre- k system set up it will be in perpetuity. paul: that is crucial the entitlements it is automatic you get them if you qualify by certain standards i'm trying to think the last time republicans or the congress repealed silly when i can think of is 1989 but also how rare it is with a catastrophic health care bill. that they are betting basical

sanders backed nina turner. brown joins "morning joe" in the next hour. >>> house democrats are growing concerned about the party's chances in the 2022 midterms in a closed-door meeting last week and confirmed by nbc news, new york councilman warned that unless democrats change their message on the accounting they will likely lose. and pulling a voting that indicated that democrats are not doing enough. according to politico, a battleground of incumbents are privately alarmed that shows the party struggling on bellwether issues such as the economy despite the trillion efforts this year and biden's general approval rate. and they warned that maloney's stark warning could decrease funding. and six months out, donald trump is profiting in a big way, trump has raked in millions of dollars, but not a single penny going to the upcoming elections. trump writing in a monday statement, in part, quote, i am pleased to see the entire party benefit from trump. instead, a review of the former president's committee shows $4 m

it is important to note the reconciliation bill is not bernie sanders or elizabeth warren's agenda, it is joe biden'agenda. everythingn the bill is something that president biden ran on. the question for every united states senator is very simple, do you believe we should have the mitt romney agenda -- which is basically the bipartisan deal using joe biden who a leftist president of the united states is entitled to his agenda? if you believe we should have the joe biden agenda, i don't see how you vote no on the reconciliation package once the house -- not amy: what will happen with that senate with manchin and sinema? >> that is joe biden's agenda. $3.5 trillion is directly with the white house propose, directly with president biden ran on. i just don't see how any senator votes against it once pu comes to shove. sure, they may right now may be making noise about things they want to see differently, but as long as we stick to the facts that the 3.5 trillion dollars already represents a compromise -- as you remember, bernie sanders started out at 6 trillion dollars -- and the 3.5 trill

but for the most part, the joe manchins and bernie sanders types have been much more close together than anything you would have imagined if you are watching the new york mayoral race. lisa: but has it been effective? i've been reading a lot of analyst notes that put the chance of that $3.5 trillion plan getting passed by democrats is basically a 50-50 potshot. jack: it is hard to say whether it is a 50-50 potshot because they could pare it down more. that absolutely might happen. but we are still talking about trillions of dollars, still talking about a push by democrats and by the mainstream to increase the corporate tax rate, to increase taxes on both the wealthiest earners. i don't know if it is a 50-50 shot, but they absolutely could succeed if they are willing to make some concessions to the center. what we have seen so far in a couple major instances of a couple trillion dollars involved is both wings of the party understanding that they need to be essentially unified. legislatively, it has been basically a unified party lately. lisa: meanwhile, we are looking at an economy that h

over a lot of progressive -- bernie sanders totally identified with terry mccollum, a more centrist guy getting the nomination in virginia. there was a more establishment figure in louisiana, inside a democratic primary. we've seen eric adams in new york city do the same. i think what you're seeing here is there may be a lot of activity and vocal activism. >> we just heard from cori bush. >> totally. cori bush just had a success. i'm not suggesting that progressives are not having sway in this party. they clearly are. electorally, the coalition to win democratic primaries, is one that is broader than the left wing, woke crowd, if you will of the party. >> i'm beginning to think that twitter may not be real life. i'm beginning to think. nina turner has several hundred thousand followers there. this is yet another example of where some of the things you may see in certain places are not reflective of what's happening on the ground. let's talk about the republican side. last week the former president trump endorsed a texas candidate and he lost. overnight the guy he wanted in ohio won the

it was a 4-page op-ed, bernie sanders making the same case. i will go point by point. he talked about income disparity as you can imagine. he says that 3 people own more wealth than the bottom 50% and real wages haven't gone up in about what half a century or so. he wants, yes, he wants them to pay their fair share in taxes, the greed of the pharmaceutical industry, childhood poverty, i can see stu going -- >> stuart: eye roll. susan: paid family medical leave on top of infrastructure plan. stuart: what i'm astonished is this man is the chairman of the senate budget committee and he's got an editorial in the wall street journal calling for socialist. basically that's what the man is calling. susan: i was paraphrasing, it's 3 pages long. stuart: well done. susan: i don't think we have heard anything new, though. stuart: nothing new at all. why don't we bring in senator mike braun, republican -- he's laughing already. senator from indiana. let's deal first of all with the 1 trillion-dollar infrastructure package. we may get a vote on that this week, are you in favor? >>

bernie sanders thinks since roosevelt. he's pushing for big change. >> martha: take them at their word. that's what this is, a transformational remaking of a lot of the united states economy in terms of enormous spending. it's going to government checks for child care, housing equity, which includes rental assistance. elder care, climate change, college for free and community colleges. and then you have amnesty in this bill. tough to figure out how this falls under the reconciliation frame when you look at how it will be passed that will go to millions of undocumented immigrants. the president says it's to build back better. look at what is in here. what is in here for american businesses? what will help them get back open? get back to work? there's barely a mention of that kind of incentive in here and how do you get those workers back, how do you get them to leave their home and fill the 10 million jobs that are now available in the united states. who better to talk about this? fox business correspondent susan li and cha

let's discuss this and more with the senate budget committee chairman, bernie sanders. senator, thanks as usual for joining us. the senate is starting to consider various amendments to this $1 trillion infrastructure bill. but you only have a handful of days before the senate recess. how do you get this done? >> by working very hard and working long hours. my hope and expectation is that this hard infrastructure bipartisan bill will get done by the end of the week, and then we will immediately turn to what we call the reconciliation bill, a bill which i think will have a positive impact on working families. and that will deal with issues of extending the child tax credit, that $300 a month check for working families for their kids, which has cut childhood poverty in america by 61%. we'll reform in a very comprehensive care. child care. we will expand medicare to cover dental care, eye glasses, hearing aids. we will have the united states to have paid family and medical leave. we're going to put a whole lot of money into affordable housing. and of course in the midst of

something that we heard from bernie sanders' campaign and in the 2020 and 2016 democratic races. on the flip side, you end up having nina turner going after shan tell brown on ethics matters, on some local politics. but make no mistake this is the latest it rags in the bernie sanders versus democratic establishment wars that we've seen in 2016, 2020 and seeing once again, ayman. >> so what exactly would this tell us about, you know, the debate within democrats and their chances in next year's mid terms? what do you suspect the dccc might be paying attention to tomorrow night? >> yeah. not much when it comes to the general election and general election contest at the dccc will be focused on. this is a fight in the heart and soul of the democratic party. this is going to be a district that no matter who ends up winning between brown and turner, the democrat will end up carrying this democratic heavy seat. but for progressives, there is a lot at stake. recently just a year ago we saw joe biden win the democratic primary for president. we saw terry mcauliffe win overwhelmingly a demo

nina turner, a familiar face a long-time bernie sanders ally. bernie sanders was out in force endorsing her. establishment versus progressive. and we had a flavor here of what's at stake. let's take a listen. >> congress is a co-equal body. it has power, too. and that my job is not to just pair it with any administration, whether it's democratic or republican administration. my job is to represent the interest of the people who elect me. >> you get rhetoric or results. insults or results. lip service or public service. the choice is very clear. >> so this has been a bitter expensive and quite frankly, a nasty race. a lot of outside money coming into this. and nina turner was really leading the pack. there are 13 candidates on the ballot tomorrow. she was leading the way until a couple months ago, and there was a rise from shontel brown, on the county council, a rising star here. a lot of outside money behind her. a lot of support for her. the congressional black caucus, leaders coming out here in full support of her. this district since 1999 has

bernie sanders has won the ideological argument in the party. the party has gone to the left on capitol hill. i completely agree with that, and i think probably -- the electorate is probably in the middle, but the members of congress are not. >> well -- go ahead. >> a bunch of those individuals are going to vote for republicans in the next congressional election because they don't recognize their democratic party right now. >> a lot of it -- that's why we may see a lot of donald trump in ads perhaps coming. >> 100%. >> from the left perhaps, some of those moderate democrats. i've got to leave it there. that's all we have for today. thank you for watching. we won the gold and the medal standings. how about that, team usa? let's make sure to note that. we'll be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." ♪♪ >>> a new milestone in the coronavirus pandemic. half of the u.s. population is now fully vaccinated. but with covid cases still on the rise, especially in unvaccinated areas, the question is when will things turn around.

so how do you feel about, do you think this is just a rehash of what bernie sanders and some of the other democrats, the more liberal progressive democrats have been pushing and do you think it will actually be effective? scotty, there are 2 different things, and trump was for infrastructure. he just never put together a coalition. he didn't concentrate and focus on it enough to actually push it through. but trump wanted to do something about infrastructure and what they're doing now with the 20 public and senators is a compromise. the progressives didn't get everything they wanted. in fact, they gave on a lot of issues that are not increasing the amount of iris enforcement. so they can get money from the super rich and from huge corporations. they're not having a bank that they were talking about having that was going to help with climate change projects. so the republicans got a lot and that's why republican centers are supporting this. the next problem is the 3 trillion dollar bill that the democrats want to do all by themselves, by reconciliation, and that one for august, right? it co

we have bernie sanders, we have joe manchin and everybody in between and we show respect. we don't belittle or denigrate or anything, but second and most important every member of our caucus realizes realizes that unity is our strength and with 50 votes at a time when republicans on too many issues refuse to cooperate at all as you saw last night, we all need to be unified and everyone knows that, so that doesn't mean people don't fight for their beliefs, but at the end of the day, we have to come together. thus far we have. is it going to be easy on reconciliation? absolutely not, but if past is prolog, we've got a chance at a good, decent chance. i told you i want to get the bill done on september 15th. >> and there you have it. senate majority leader chuck schumer there, a victory lap, part preview. back with me, nbc's leigh ann caldwell and covers capitol hill for us. it would seem voting rights would be senator schumer's next priority. what's the game plan there? >> yeah, craig. that is senator schumer's next, immediate priority when the senate returns in september. h