and talk about using the title basin for that memorial. putting the process through design and construction, the memorial was dedicated 1943, and construction had to continue through world war ii. the jefferson memorial, was not without controversy in terms of its location. the construction of the memorial, would require the removal of a number of cherry trees. despite the protest, known as the cherry tree rebellion, a number of women editor of the washington times herald, went down to the tidal basin one day, and chained themselves to the cherry trees, walking construction vehicles from coming in and removing the trees. they ultimately receive the concession, that any tree removed, would be replanted along the title basin. for more than 100 years, the cherry trees have been a beloved institution in washington d.c.. symbolizing the friendship between the people of united states and the people of japan. in the wake of the attack on pearl harbor, 1941, the love of the cherry trees was put to the test. washingtonians, for the duration of worl

they used land donated by developers. they were freely given the land and parts of the places where they were developing. they used land already owned by the city. the park system was developed in keeping with the commissioner's priorities. that was the first view of urban planning. they wanted to see how it attract newcomers. then, open space for children throughout the records of the park system that i looked through, there is a real emphasis that not only is olmstead concerned about places for children to play, but neighborhood groups are. they wanted to have beautiful play spaces for their children. i'm going to give you a little tour of the park system, because we are blessed with all these incredible landscapes. this is lake washington boulevard. the upper left is what it looked like when it first developed. then you see the seawall type structure. that is one of my favorite olmstead stories of how you get from the picture in the upper left to the picture in the upper right, which shows the grass instead of water. h

using his own narration, h film maker honors his new country. he went onto receive many awards including an academy and peabody. >> i was claimed as an artist in prague. after completing my schooling aworked for several years fk czech films. then the russians invaded my country. now i'm political refugee in united states. my first job in this country was as an animator, a drawer of cartoons and my first assignment was to make a film about the american flag because it was thought i might bring fresh vision to a familiar sight. here, in this room, i began my work that would take me back in time to that late fall day when i arrived in new york city. behind you is the iron curtain you've broken through. the long wait in the refugee camps, the long lines for processing, the endless paper work. the daily disappointments. the fears you won't be let into your new country then suddenly, it's all over. you have arrived at john f. kennedy airport. all of you is open to every sensation and every sensation is fresh. my first thought was that i had been put d

you can use twitter, with the # live. as the near driver of economic growth and a long-term clean energy bill now, what does the labor community think about this generally and the bipartisan proposal? >> well, first of all, just let me say to you, sasha and to jason and the team at bipartisan policy center for bringing us together for this discussion. i absolutely love what we just heard from secretary buttigieg and i should just remind folks off the top the afl-cio is an organization of 12 and a half million working people and 56 different unions all across every sector of the economy and they all have an interest in infrastructure policy. so i'm bringing the voices of those workers with me today and we're in full support of the bipartisan infrastructure plan and we are working very hard right now to get it passed. i know there's some debate about the bipartisan deal, whether it goes far enough, but we think that it still brings the investment the american people have been waiting for for far too long as the secretary sa

for us to reaffirm and rededicate ourselves to action. and with that i say happy juneteenth everybody and with that i introduced the president of the united. states thank you. thank you. thank you madam. vice president. 156 years ago 156 years june 19th 1865 john thanks for being here. major generally union army arrived in galveston, texas to enforce the emancipation proclamation and free the last enslaved americans in texas from bondage. the days you all know and repeat some of what was said came known as juneteenth you all know that. a day that reflects what the psalm tells us. we be may for a night. for joy cometh in the morning. juneteenth marks both the long hard night of slavery to subjugation and a promise of a brighter morning to come. this is a day a profound in my view profound weight and profound power. today, which remember the moral stain the terrible toll that slavery took on the country. and continues to take what i've long called america's original sin. at the same time. i also remember the extraordinary capacity. to heal

mike litterst national mall and memorial parks communications chief met us on site to talk about the area's history and famous japanese cherry trees. we are at the end of the tidal basin in washington dc home to the world famous cherry trees which blossom every spring well known to washingtonians people across the country and in fact people across the world, but had you been here before about 1890 or so, we would be in the middle of the potomac river this area has evolved over the years. there's always been an element of recreation around the tidal basin but with the passing of time recreation has become much more important than it initially was now as early as 1890 there was an established swimming area around what we know today is the tidal basin with the planting of the cherry trees originally in 1912 that really created interest and tourism and visitation around the tidal basin. and throughout the years as more and more memorials have been designed and built along the tidal basin. we have seen to the numbers today where millions of visitors a year make a trip for recreational pur

the british using the green color government and colonies would use it. the american government. the red would kind of be much more that house of lords kind of color. you see red in the early senate in philadelphia. definitely has that kind of look to it that seems a bit on the higher end. the interesting thing about the senate is the are created with more power. the power is a tie to the president in the house of representatives, and they don't have treaties in the united states are with the advice and consent of the senate, approved by the advice and consent of the senate. the senate has to approve the treaties, the house does not the senate does. so there is one power. also and time the president makes an appointment in his cabinet and ambassador, supreme court, of course. those folks would have to come in front of the senate and be approved by the senate or rejected. here in philadelphia, we have our very first treaty approved by the senate which is the jay treaty and that led to the big fight in the house of representatives water not to pay for it. over that same issue, we h

attention all units tear gas is now being used in the area. we have another large group. >> i read you officer. >> okay go to six and seven. >> 6:19 we have another large group. >> large group of 34th and prospect. >> 34th and prospect. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. this was the spring offensive, the mobilization of masses of people at a given time and place attracts worldwide news coverage and attention. the protest organizer, insider and promoter, it is a necessary ♪ ♪ ♪ tactic. on april 24th, 1971, the national piece action coalition, supported by welfare rights groups, labor unions and others, held a massive demonstration in washington d. c.. some 175,000 people, from all walks of life, with differing ideologies and purposes, marched from the white house to the capital. washington has grown accustomed to this method of voicing dissent, larger than most, this was an organized demonstration with parade permits, marshals and responsible leadership. the demonstrators take their pos

this area was reclaimed and dredged by the us army corps of engineers starting about 1891 to create a pond a basin of sorts that would operate off of the tides. hence the name the title basin and it was to serve two purposes. they were looking for something to act as a visual centerpiece for the city much like the mall and they were looking for something that they could target they could harness the tide to help flush the washington channel of sediment and debris every day. the washington channel is a narrow waterway the between the shoreline of washington dc. and what is today east potomac sediments and silt builds up? and to keep it navigable they developed this title basin so that twice a day 250 million gallons of water is released from the title basin down through the washington channel. and flushes the sediment away. there are two bridges that give access to the title base and there is the inlet bridge where the water comes in and there is the outlet bridge where the water goes out. each of those bridges has gates on the underside of them. title action closes the inlet gates in

and it is no exaggeration to say that he gave us back our government. in a season of doubt, he restored our faith in our leaders and in ourselves. >> when i look back, i think the american people, whether everybody agreed with my policies or not, they knew they had a new leader with a different point of view who restored integrity and trust and their national government. >> he had always been an optimist, and saying goodbye to washington, his home for an eventful quarter century, he would characteristically look to the future with hope and with confidence. >> my fellow americans, i once asked you for your prayers, and now i give you mine. may god guide this wonderful country, its people, and those we have chosen to lead them. may our third century be eliminated by liberty and less with brotherhood, so that we and all who come after us maybe the humble servants apiece. a man. good night. god bless you. [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> a century ago on may 31st, 1921, racial tensions in tulsa, oklahoma led to an armed mob of w

so the british, you know, often using that green color in government, the colonies would use it and then into the american government, but the red would kind of be much more that house of lord's kind of color so you're going to see red in that early senate here in philadelphia and definitely has that kind of look to it that seems a bit on the higher end, but the interesting thing about the senate is they are create wd a bit more power, the power is a tie to the president that the house of representatives did you see not have. treaties in the united states are with the advice and consent of the straight approved by the advice and consent of the senate so the senate has to approve all treaties, the house does not, the senate does, so there's one power. also anytime the president makes an appointment to his cabinet, ambassador, supreme court, of course, those folks would have to come in front of the senate and be approved by the senate or rejected and so here in philadelphia we have our very first treaty approved by the senate which is the jay treaty and that led to the fight in the house o

please just let us know if our husbands or sons are alive. this is so little to ask. >> i've gone to see senator mcgovern since he has been to paris and has talked with the north vietnamese. i have written to secretary general uthaint at the u.n. i have written several times, have not received a reply. >> one of my most recent letters to senator fulbright, i said, last summer i wrote to you asking for an appointment with you and expressing the idea that the most vociferous critics of the war had very likely lengthened the war with a detrimental effect on the release of the prisoners. he refused to see me because my idea was so preposterous, that was his phrase, that visiting with me would serve no purpose. >> we're going back today to paris in hopes of finding the information that we originally went there seeking, on september 17, the north vietnamese promised to send us letters regarding our husbands' status and wellbeing. we have not today received those letters. we still want to know about our husbands. we want to know what we can tell our

and next with us to talk about the new report on the high cost of housing is diane. she is the president and ceo of the national low income housing coalition. good morning. welcome to washington journal. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> tell us what your organization's mission is. >> the national coalition is an organization whose work is all about advancing federal policy solutions to ensure the lowest income people have decent, accessible and affordable homes. >> and we're having you on this morning to talk about your organize's latest report. the name of the report is appropriately enough "out of reach 2021" looking at how much it costs across the country to afford living in this country, to afford rent in this country. tell us about the extent of how you put this report together. what do you look at? >> sure, in our report "out of reach" we calculate what we call the housing wage. that's how much a typical person would have to earn each hour just to be able to afford to rent a modest apartment. so nationally in 2020 the housing wage for a one-bedroom apa

still with us today. from this tragic event the mentality of the mob to declare that there would never again be another black wall street in tulsa. that mentality also still survives and many institutions and unfortunately in many people's hearts. today we welcome president joe biden here. to stand beside us as we continue the fight. for justice for the survivors and descendants of the tulsa massacre. he understands that as a nation we are and we must be strong enough to confront the dark periods of our history. with a bold agenda of equity repair and healing jb stratford died without seeing justice for the crimes against him in his community. but i am sure we will see justice in my lifet. time thanks to the efforts of all of you here joining us today. and now i introduced to you president joe biden. well, thank you, please if you have a seat sit down. and i got to make one check here. i just had to make sure that two girls got ice cream with this is over. imagine how excited you'd be when you're four fiv

for in a sense, both of us the refugee the young child. commerce to this world the color is blue white. and red about the flag has that kind of colors? motorized and know sewing machine and electricity. this is betsy ross electric sewing machine. she's showing for judge washington the first american flag george washington. that was george washington didn't friend. he was only a soldier then he came a present president. george washington gave her a plan how she should make it the first american flag the stars weren't in a roded. they were only in a circle. george washington lived in washington better organized in philadelphia the two rods was his friend. he had seven children. but who is this sitting because when she's sewing she can't stand her legs were hurt when george washington has a gun because he was only a soldier. you are you? even small children can learn to use the animators camera. and when they filmed their drawings flamed by frame the own liveliness makes the pictures grow before our eyes. this is george washington's flag made

intended use of the land as the original native people, of course. we're 20 miles from mount rushmore. the largest president monument in the world about rushmore memorial in the heart of south dakota's black hill. there it is the 60 foot head of george, washington. three other units in a follow with jefferson lincoln and theodore roosevelt to be honored in unveiling ceremony. there was some controversy right from the start carving in the black hills. that controversy came from tribal people as well as people that today we would call people who were ecologists. the tribes they were looking at a place that they would come in and and honor and have honor ceremonies spend some time. and that at that time period we're talking 1925. that wasn't looked at the same way. we look at that today. well, most of our people especially more traditionalist are not so in favor of you know doing anything with the rocks like because a lot rocks are are believed to be part of, you know our system and living so, you know not to to blast those and carve them and make them

attention all units, tear gas is being used in the area of 34th and prospect northwest. >> 3614, 101, dupont circle. a large group. >> we had an officer in response to that area. >> 607, do you have it? scout 81. 619, we have another large group at dupont circle blocking the street. >> any unit for a large group at 34th and prospect. >> a large group at 34th and prospect. ♪♪ >> the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. >> this was the spring offensive, the mobilization of masses of people at a given time and place attracts worldwide news coverage and attention. for the protest organizer, inciter and promoter, it is a vital and necessary tactic. on april 24th, 1971, the national peace action coalition supported by welfare rights groups, labor unions and others held a massive demonstration in washington, d.c. some 175,000 people from all walks of life with differing i

i used to work at a bar at 3:00 a.m., and some people turn. they'd be cool and then one drink they'd go destroy the bathroom, they'd try to get behind the bar. they would like yell names. that was crazy. and we had to throw them out, but we didn't like beat them up, you know. i obviously like most women -- i don't know one woman who hasn't been sexually assaulted, beat up, raped, stopped. i got beat up by two men on the train line. i've been raped and nobody does anything. they don't even go to jail. it's like less than 1%. then our police force have double the domestic violence in the nation. so obviously they have a problem with violence. >> jennifer, appreciate your call this morning and sharing some of your story. you mention the senator kristen gillibrand, her efforts on sexual assault in military. i saw her speak on the floor of the u.s. senate. i think that bill is moving along and i asked our producer to do a little search where that bill stands in the senate. they've not taken it up on the floor as far as i know. but it may be part of

that's going to allow us to meet the 2050 goal. there's more we have to do besides investing in renewables we'll need to update the grid substantially as well. you heard conversation about that already. we believe we can help and we're going to be critical to continued expansion of electric vehicles. you heard secretary buttigieg talk about that some. we're part of a coalition of companies in the southeast and midwest to creating a seamless, fast charging network so companies and individuals will be able to move across states easily and charge. and we're also focused on charging infrastructure specifically in our virginia service territory. we have a pilot project, called a smart charging pilot project where we're providing rebates for multi-family housing, for work place charging as well as building our first company-owned dc fast charging station. all of this we think will help decarbonize the electric sector which today produces the most green house gases of any sector in the economy. building out renewables, building out evs wi

and he invited us down to do this interview to see that we are there. the darker the conversation got, the more he spoke about his grievances, the more happy he seemed to be talking about it and he said to me i find all of this so interesting and exhilarating and i got that sense from reading your description. he's talking about really dark things and is accusing people that are close to portraying him and he is excited about it. why did he put you down and invite me down, why did he do this? >> just as you described is sitting in that lobby we couldn't believe we were going to be interviewed in a room where anybody could walk by including the crew that was setting up the bar for dinner. he wants people to realize how sought after he is and how his conversation is a draw. he wants people to know that. but to your point about the exhilaration, i couldn't agree more. and i know phil feels the same way. when he was lashing out into the late john mccain, a hero in his state, he brought his when in arizona saying he didn't lose because he criticized mccain a

and all of us kids who are not bothered by that whatsoever. we said no, we are glad to continue that legacy and we're proud of what you've done and that sort of thing. and all of those alumni are just ambassadors for what she started. and we have, you know over 100,000 ambassadors, you know, both families and children who have gone through the children's program that are continuing her legacy and, so it's an incredible legacy of hope for so many families that may never receive the gift that we receive but there is hope. >> it's an amazing chapter in her life, and it seems to me that it draws on that same kind of fearlessness that you and i talked about at the very beginning of this. what was it on your mom that gave her the power to not only create things like that, but to see it through. sometimes execution is the hardest part. not a good idea can survive unless there is someone who has incredible strength to push it all the way through. >> i think it was the support of my dad. my dad supported her and so many things and he pushed her. he hel

tell us what you reading. so he named john franklin and janet's stamp but not, he said, the revisionists. he may have had in mind robert vogel and stanley, we didn't go down that road but instead roger and i had the wit to say do you know anything about these authors particularly john hope franklin? he did know much about them so we let him through the history, particularly of franklin from 1947 until dashmac and franklins life, and so we said, to wind up the conversation, mr. justice, the books you're reading for the summer what you should do and keep in mind works of revisionists f revisionist history and did some of the most important work in revisionist history of the late 20th century. with that i'm easy come with the conversation, justice thomas took the conversation in another direction. now, roger and i could have attributed that switch because i think you would set this conversation is going really well and is likely to say what do you mean, professor? what do you mean, roger brown? of course we could

using the media. the other is the inability. >> it is about how we all have crosscutting parts of our identity that create the cross cutting effective conflict. our differences crisscross in different ways, but they also have a binding effect. >> sure. >> i think the reason why we have those, what they call the driveway moment where we cannot turn off the radio where we have so streaming down our cheek. there is a sense of being, you know, we feel the humanity. the humanization in some ways. also seeing an example from congress have a nap. one of our copies with coleman. the structural moment when there was a push to have people in congress get out at washington and not stay long enough for dinner with other members of congress. they use to feel more of that repainting relationship and less as opposites where you have to completely reject. those were about bringing back humanity into who we are as people. >> that was new gingrich, what he did was change the workweek from five days to three so that peo

i know they used to be women on. ships that we're going through cape horn with wives actually, but they were not working at the to maneuver the ship. it's pretty it's it's pretty cool that there are women on this ship today. we are 33% of the crew is made of women. yeah. and and the captain usually works his mate is a woman as well. and i know he likes that because it counts it it comes the crew. i think it's easier to manage a crew not made just out of man. for too long the french died hey. now gives me great pleasure. representing france. i am delighted to introduce. minister single and royale the minister of ecology sustainable development and energy she's held the position since 2014 ms. royale has also occupied several ministerial ministerial posts between 1992 and 2000. she chaired the poetu seront region of france from april 2004 to 2014 and has remained a regional counselor. since 2000 may 2014 ms. royale holds a degree in economics and was the runner-up to the french presidency in 2007. miss matter men where

but a little used. everyone reads the federalist papers, but if you are persuaded by them. >> you are right, i fear. certainly governor clinton and his people will make -- >> clinton is a dangerous demagogue. we will defeat him, even if we have to threaten to withdraw the city of new york to the rest of the states. >> i regret that we have no such weapons as virginia. >> yes. virginia is indeed reinjure -- digger to. both mason and patrick henry against us. >> henry cannot be one over. he calls the constitution a conspiracy to set up a monarchy. >> how will you answer that? >> as i see it, there is one workable answer. that is the one reached in massachusetts. the federalist in every state must agree to a bill of rights. >> i suppose that is the answer. but it will not win over such men as clinton and henry. >> no, but it offers as our last best chance to save the constitution. >> madison's strategy of compromise succeeded. as these state conventions can gathered, the opposition was powerful, and the de

so chief can you let us know what's going us know is going on regards to on addressing the backlog in the in with regards to addressing this backlog in the thinning and what more do you need to be precommmercial thinning and what more do you need to be effective? i'm not a more effective here? >> thank you so much senator. i'm not a forest her from alaska but the closest state next, washington state so you're need to be effective? thank yhou so mjuch, senator. i'm not a forrester from alaska but the bringing back closest state next, washington state so you're bringing back practices near and dear to my heart. practices near and dear to my precommercial thinning heart. precommercial thinning is very important to grow those structures of the mature forests that we need for habitat and other critical benefits that flow from the forest. you know, we would be glad to work with you, there are needs and it is prioritization and resources, so it's part of the young growth transition strategy that we create some structure in these young growth for us, and that includes these entries that are c

and use humor, tell stories. but every one of you are better position to connect with young people, with your peers, with your classmates, frankly than any of us are. you can speak with real credibility and use that platform to win hearts and minds. that is how we, win we have to win hearts and minds. >> what motivates you, and you been through almost nobody in the public -- even though trump gets beat up, he asked for it. from the eighties on. you run for president, you went through all of this -- how, everybody gets tired, one motivates you to keep up the fight? >> i remember who i'm working for. i've worked for 29 million texans and i remember every one of them, i remember the little old lady who grabbed by the soldier and said ted don't go to washington and become one of them. and if you remember who you're working for, then i'm gratified when they come after me, and listen, at any moment, in the time we have been sitting here, thousand people on twitter have cursed me out, that's what lefties do. and it is i

to prevent a future that tulsa warns us of. so, with the historical and emotional distance provided by our current renters point, nash our current vantage point, we have -- our current vantage point, we have the framework to dive in to why people do not talk about them as good or -- about the massacre and what we are tasked to do about it. for the first time, the assembled voices of the survivors who appear in her book tell their own stories down through history to the broadest possible audience. great-grandmother mary was the reporter and scribe whose work made possible much of the scholarship that has been done about it this historical event and the time in which it is set. the organized violence and destruction that disrupted black wall street arose from converging factors. but, one of the underlying themes was to erase a self-sufficient and well-organized african-american community that stood in direct contrast to any stereotype of black incompetence and soft. -- loss --sloth. here was a town of industrious black citizens w

that will allow us to do that. were asking all students be vaccinated and all employees be vaccinated. were also led for the exception the law requires. i have to make sure whatever medical reasons by the vaccine for this small percentage of people who will not be immune. protection means we do not expose them to others. therefore with special conditions for those who cannot be vaccinated on campus. >> you are an immunologist by practicing. >> my experience trading and research. >> you are university president. tells how you explain this policy to your faculty comments your students to the parents? >> we have had conversations. many people have had questions and we have to respond to the questions. in the early days and one of the clinical trials. how could you give the example of encouraging people to be clinical trials. we explained to them why it was important that some people, .1% the population, has to be the trials of others can benefit. so therefore old men like me have to roll their sleeves. we explained th

everybody in the country did that, it would be really useful in schools. the kids could just write about their family or what the president was aimed, write about the differences, the different kinds of kids in the school. but be nice. the nice. >> when chelsea was eight, i still have it next door. i mean, in the next room. we did a little notebook where we would write a series of essays together. and i would write the first sentence and she would write the second one and if she misspelled the word i would correct it. we would wind up telling a story and we would do it again and again. she became a voracious reader . and now she knows more than i do about everything but at the time wecould still be helpful to her and i think we were . first we read to her and then let her read and then we let her write things that she would like to read. >> when our son jack was eight he wrote his first novel illustrated, death of the butterfly catcher. butterfly catcher travels halfway around the country, doesn't catch a butterfly. gets on a boat, doesn't catch a butterfl

your discriminating against us. i'm sorry, the establishment clause requires us to build the jeffersonian wall of separation high and impregnable. we love you but go somewhere else for your club. it was a breakthrough case, the supreme court was interested in the state of meditation. how powerful is the idea of equality, equal protection, when the speech is religious speech in question? and, it did not take the justices that long to say yeah, this is what is going on. informal speech, protected by a freedom of speech. a double whammy, mmm e. the free exercise of religion. easier for us to decide this as a freedom of speech case. i stepped up analysis: strict scrutiny. this is a book for homeschooled kids as well as their grandparents to transmit these principles. that are solidly rooted in the constitution. thou shall not discriminate against a religious voice. it doesn't seem common sense but guess what, just a few years later, congress had to step in and past -- and pass the equal access act of 1984. why during th

and it's an intuitive thing or many of us and it's clear for many of us but i think we can, i know this from having been a high school english teacher . i know this from growing up in new orleans that there's a lot of folks who internalize the falsehood and the pathology that we're inundated with and in my case i was inundated with growing up in new orleans and sometimes you don't have language or the toolkits or the framework with which to push back against it there can be a sort of psychological and emotional paralysis where you know what you're hearing is wrong but you don't necessarily know how to say it. or what happens and why. and so when people are telling you these horrible things, those sorts of things that the sons of confederate veterans literally created back in the civil war in the late 19th century in order to distort and confuse an entire society so that we don't really know what to believe and the goal of a lost cause is not to make everybody a white supremacist. is this orwellian project that is meant to make everything so foggy that you're like maybe the civil war was

it was dangerous for us to apply. fate would have it, we did receive permission to leave and eventually took a train to moscow and from moscow, the very famous siberian express to the port on the far eastern russian port, and that train ride through siberia's when i will never, never forget -- is one i will never forget because it was over two weeks. edna: some viewers may be surprised to know that representative from japan, that he would be willing to help people who were being targeted by an ally of his government. we had an opportunity to speak with chiune sugihara's youngest son. let's hear him explain why his father acted to help so many thousands of people while others stood by and did nothing. edna: we have an audience comment, a woman from pamela writes to say my dad and uncle also received visas from sugihara and traveled the same route to freedom and safety. over 2700 polish jews were admitted to japan between july 1940 and june 1941 thanks to the actions of sugihara. after this journey on the trans-siberian

the issue of special use permits. last year with covid, we just didn't see the visitors so we didn't have that need to really handle many of the use permits. so if you can explain or provide to me this morning what forest service is doing to prepare for the visitors to both the tongas and the other national forest, this summer. we've talked yesterday or the day before yesterday about the forest service enterprise approach to provide for additional support for the special use permitting program. we've made it through some of the backlog but what else do we have to do to address the matters of special use permits? >> yes, thank you senator. certainly putting an emphasis on how important tourism is for southeast alaska, tongas being -- tongas national forest being a central part of that. let me just say that during last year, during covid, the region really worked on helping business opportunities particularly for the outfitter and guides that no longer had tourists to take out. we worked to help mitigate their handships